great result for what is a pretty big car with a relatively small battery. Just shows that you don't need a big battery pack to be a good road tripper.
Please do 0% test with this car. Motor’s elbiltest showed that their Model Y RWD only drove 13 km after 0 %. Your test with Model 3 RWD drove around 60km below 0%. Interested in seeing this repeated with this Model Y as the two other mentioned results are so different from each other
that’s the problem with lfp, the battery management doesn’t know exactly how much is left. you can have very different results with the same car. so the test is kinda irrelevant
There is little practical relevance in that buffer, because you will always charge up before getting down to 0%. Björn ending up with 0% in this 1000 km challenge is not really how you would drive this car. But anyway, the S3XY app on my car reads 2.7 kWh buffer, which can be as little as 10-15 km (140 km/h) or as much as 30 km (50 km/h country roads very frugal driving).
@@bilgyno1 Also the buffer is not constant. When the BMS is not sure about SoC, it will increase the buffer (so that it can guarantee the car will not shut off with few percents still remaining). On my TM3 LFP I have seen buffer as big as 5.5 kWh and then it went down to the usual 2.25 kWh. The buffer is how much capacity the BMS thinks the battery still has. But it can be wrong, so you shouldn't depend on it.
Had my MY for about 3 weeks now and I am surprised how quiet it is. My 2019 m3 sounded like I was in a wind tunnel on the autobahn. Thus new car is really really quiet
2023 model got better soundproofing for sure. It has doubled glass all around and also a shelf in the back to minimise the road sound coming from the back axel into the cabin.
I've just gotten the "Poor Man's Model Y" aka the RWD myself a week ago :) Nice to know that even though it have the smaller battery, it can do long trips very well (which I do more in the summer, so the hit on range from winter with a LFP battery is not much of an issue)
Thanks for sharing this road trip experience. I am bit surprised by your consumption figures, because I am getting 18.8 kWh/100 with my TMY RWD when driving on the highway at speed limits, which is 130 kmh here.
Average temperature for those was 17 and 20 C, so almost perfect. In this test it was only 10 C. The Y has a heatpump, but there will still be a difference e.g. the preconditioning of the battery that he was talking about in the video.
Hey Bjørn is it possible to do some degradation tests of M3 SR with nmc batteries? I suspect a lot of them will hit the market soon because of Highland launch.
Would be nice to have the price of each car on the excel chart in k NOK. The viewer can divide by 10 and get a rough idea of the price in EUR or USD. As always, great review. Thanks for the great insights.
Since I bought this car I have stopped looking at videos relating to other cars. Never mind a poor man's Tesla, how many people actually need a bigger battery?
Model Y made in Shanghai after January 2023 has the new improved suspension. Maybe that's one reason it's quieter. Also people say it's softer than before.
Bjorn, please explain the discrepancy with the 3 SR+. Looking at the opening shots, this has the 20in wheels which could explain at least some if not all the discrepancy (assuming the M3 was on 19in).
You sounded surprised at the consumption figure, 236wh/km as was I given that is 22% down on the Model3 SR+MIC. But then I get significantly better economy on my M3 SR+MIC than you get, around 140-160 wh/km and that’s with AC on 25+c.
Good to see more reviews coming for the Y RWD. I'm buying one next week so bad timing I can't wait for a full suite of tests - but Il'l still watch them
I love your consumption, you just hammer it compared to us here in Australia. Everyone sticks to 110kph and very few speed. Thus 110km/h in the MIC MY yields 165wh/km as per 'Twins and Toddler in A Tesla' did in the Australian Range Test
Great result! How are you calculating balance between consumption and travelling speed or you just try to go 10% over limit? TM3 SR had significantly lower consumption and same time.
Given that faster charging EVs travel the most distance in shorts time driving at 160-170 kph, then Scandinavian speed limits + 10% is the fastest way for Bjørn to travel. SR+ may have experienced congestion + a small sedan is also less influenced by wind at high speed.
@@Arpedk Well, I had TMYLR for a week and traveled 1400 km. AVG consumption was around 170 Wh/km at speed 110 km/h for the most of the trip. I created calculation for 1000 km challenge in excel where sweet spot for TMY seems to be the 125 km/h (604min @ 120, 598 min @ 125, 601 min @ 130) when charging 10-80%.
I was driving a E-Tron Sportsback recently, and was expecting very low noice levels. But I was surprised that it felt just like my TMYLR '23. It was also more cramped, smaller trunk, ancient infotainment and less power. But on the other hand, the consumption and price was the doubled compared to TMYLR.
Hi Björn, thank you for informative videos. Especially these 1000 km tests are super👍 My question is that could it be possible for you to test Model Y RWD made in Germany. It has the BYD-battery instead of CATL and it charges way better. The 1000 km time for MY RWD MIG could be a lot better than MIC.
yes, temp, wind and most of all 20 inch rims make it difficult to compare this run to MY LR. Definitely consumption was above what I get from my MY RWD on 19".
Hi Björn, when your battery is at 100%, can you tap once at the 100% to see what the range (km) is that Tesla indicates at 100%. Would be interesting to compare when you'll do the sunday driving test. Thanks for the video's, you made me have my own Model Y RWD; Kr. F.
Hi, I have a MY RWD with the 20' Wheels. It indicates 389 km at 100%. With the standard 19', that would be 418 km. At 5500km, I now have an average of 147wh /km. Mix of highway (at 120 km/h) and other roads at 50-70 km/h. I just love the car.
Hi David, thank you very much for this answer. Mine had already 11 000 km and the 418 km makes perfectly sense. Ps. I like to ride the Model Y too; a perfect built 👍. Kr. F.
One thing that strikes me about Tesla cars is that you need to be aware of where and when your car is manufactured, in order to get softer suspension or a specific type of battery as examples. This is not the case for other car makers but maybe not something that the average Tesla buyer is concerned with.
Yep. Slower is better. Closes to 50% is better. Only remember that BMS have hard time to know SoC in cycle without 100%. Becouse od that it's recommended to some times hit slow 100% so it can better know SoC. If you don't do this at lease 1 in 6m your SoC can drop fast under 20%. BMC don't know SoC, it od able to know Volt of cell and calculate amount of transfered energy.
Would be very interesting to see a 1000 km Challenge with the I4 Drive40 and one with the EQE 300/350 RWD. Should probably end up in the top five or so.
Göteborg always delivers with chaos. It is the worst city traffic wise probably even without construction work. But now they have been digging hard, like crazy and you have to take a sightseeing tour anywhere you might fancy.
@@MrGoogle87 It's not super if you even don't have blind spot indicators in mirrors, and dozen of other features, which most of new cars have nowadays :)
@@Lascarnn You have a camera on screen that shows your blindspot, haven't seen any other brand outside of Audi doing that. You also get corrective steering if you are changing lanes while someone is in your blindspot + chimes.
@@garyanderton I had blindpot indicators in the mirrors for years (in Kia), I really cannot imagine how nowadays you can have car without it. Screen is much less useful because most often you look in the mirror in this scenario. Chimes is not helpful when you listen to load music or talking. But of course, if someone don't mind, it's their wish. For me it's standard, as many other features like Carplay, light above back seat, ventilated seats, adjustable headrests, physical controls, etc.
@@Lascarnn I have a blind spot indicator in the mirror of my Mustang Mach E, yet I find myself looking at the screen because the blind spot streaming in the Tesla is simply better. More cars should use it, also less cost if you are unlucky enough to mess up your mirror.
I suspect the noise improvement is mostly down to tires. My 20 inch wheels came with Goodyears from Fremont and i upgraded to Michelin later and noticed a better and less noisy ride.
I wanted the Model 3 AWD, but I want kids very soon, so would you suggest the Y RWD over the Model 3 AWD? Would be nice with the AWD on the Model 3, but only once the last three years have my Toyota Auris not been able to drive up a road when snowing, and that was because their had been no plowing.
@@bjornnyland As all my colleagues who have switched to bigger cars due to more babies say - it doesn't matter how big car you have, you will always fill it completely :) With bigger car, you just pack more "just in case" things.
Wow, that efficiency is horrible. That's only 2.63miles/1kwh? That can't be right. And why so much worse than LR? Just because the temperature differences?
Bjorn have you noticed any significant differences with the newer 4680 batteries vs the old? or it's really down to the motors, as compared to the AWD last year the RWD used more energy to do 1000km when it's supposed to be more efficient. It was 10 degrees colder on average
great test and this is what I'd love to buy for early next year. Hopefully it becomes available in the USA by then. I'm planning a 5000 km trip next year and this would make for a great EV road trip.
Still waiting for an efficiency test / 1000km challenge with the most efficient VW group SUV, enyaq 60 RWD with the smallest stock rims. You've tested this car already twice and claim that it is the fastest by optimizing the driving to the max.
what would be the best App/Charging card for a Tesla owner who visits Norway for Vacation and needs backup charging option for rural areas in Norway where there are fewer Superchargers? (we mainly plan to charge on superchargers)
Hey Björn, pretty cool video - thanks! A question, why don't you do the software update before you do a trip? Just to make sure you have the latest, greatest? I noticed you cancelled the update message each time.
I previously owned a Model X 100D, 4 years and almost 100.000km. I trade it with a Model Y RWD last December, and I have to say that this car is amazing... it's more than enough for most of the people, but of course, range anxiety pushes always to go for bigger batteries. IMHO, this battery size is almost perfect. It's light, it charges very quick because it's small and it's safe. I just miss a bit of extra space compared to the Model X and some punch on the 0-50 km/h. I'm sure is a performance software limitation. Once is rolling the acceleration is ok, but starting from 0 km/h it's not that fast. I wish Tesla would launch an update uncorking the Model Y RWD on the 0-100 km/h.
@@DeividTT There are restrictions on the deduction of VAT for companies in Austria. Full input tax deduction only up to € 40,000, no more from € 80,000. This Tesla Y in Austria € 45,870. So 87% of the VAT deductible. I was shocked by the tire prices beyond €200. Currently driving Dacia Lodgy and there a winter tire costs 50 €.
Great to see the affordable, poor man’s Tesla…….if you’re in the UK and don’t have a car allowance, salary sacrifice scheme you’ll be lucky to afford a tyre let alone the whole car. Inflation/Brexit/Tories………making the Uk poorer, every day.
In my Tesla3 my autopilot have problems to change the speed when it goes up or down. Sometimes it just keep going same speed and i need to turn autopilot on/off or just manully correct the speed. Is it suppose to work like that?
If you start on Autopilot in an 80kph zone, you need to 'authorise' the car to travel faster once you enter a higher speed/100kph zone. You do this by either touching the littel speed sign on the screen or holding down the right stalk for 1-2 seconds.
@@doctoringdownunder Hey thanks for this. But how to do it if i start in an 100kph zone and then it drops to 80? It wont change that always by its self. And sometimes it do slow down and after 5sec speed back upto 100 even tho im still in the 80kph zone
@@bjornnyland I think you are translating from Norwegian. In both Britain and North America, it's 3 am or 3 in the morning. 😃 But then again, The English have a hard time believing that they are European.
@@pavelblaha5243 sure, that could also be a reason. I was also a bit surprised to see it. However, compared to many other electric cars it is still a very good consumption.