@@DerekDavis213 if the mass production start these robots will be cheaper, they ai model will be smarter and faster, the robot can work 24/7 so it won't be expensive.
@@theplouf5533 But movement is slower. Still may be faster than a human overall. The main benefit is the cost-savings. Even if they cost $100k each, they'll pay for themselves within two to three years (depending on the task). If the cost is anywhere near Musk's estimate of about $20k and the speed increases, they'll pay for themselves within weeks.
Doesn't need health insurance, no need to take breaks, lunch, day off and or vacation. Doesn't need sleep, doesn't get sick, doesn't complain. Yeah, it's a little slow, but compare that to someone that needs to stop work to go home while the robot keeps working all day and night and weekends. Good luck, humans!
@@Cornelius87 I agree with your statement with being connected to an wall outlet. And if not, there will likely be dozens already fully charged ready for a quick swap out.
Humans don't need luck, because they have things that Optimus will never have: humans are fast, precise, powerful, versatile, able to learn many different tasks quickly, and don't need any programmers or technicians to maintain them. Humans have spoken and written communication skills that are way beyond Optimus.
@@DerekDavis213 "humans are fast, precise" - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AePEcHIIk9s.html. Optimus will soon be just as fast and agile, this is purely an engineering challenge for a couple years. "able to learn many different tasks quickly" - It takes years to train a skilled mechanic or engineer. And after 30-40 years of work, that person will retire. Once an AI is trained, even though it may be more expensive initially, that AI can be copied onto hundreds of inexpensive robots indefinitely, upgrading it as technology progresses. For low-skilled labor tasks like moving boxes, training the AI is already feasible. And once trained, the AI can be replicated endlessly. "and don't need any programmers or technicians to maintain them." Humans require as much, if not more, maintenance than robots. It's just that we're accustomed to it and don't view it as "maintenance." In Europe (I don't know how it works in the US), employers pay social contributions for each employee, providing access to healthcare. Healthcare is a major budget expenditure for any state; doctors are essentially technicians maintaining humans. While not a direct obligation, employers indirectly pay for employee healthcare. "Humans have spoken and written communication skills that are way beyond Optimus." Currently, yes, as Optimus likely lacks proper human communication abilities. However, AI like ChatGPT or Claude are on par with humans for natural dialogue - hence Musk's development of Grok. And for manufacturing tasks, human-like communication is redundant, just as we don't expect conveyors or automotive machines to engage in dialogue.
А почему бы просто не сделать автомат, который делает ту работу, что собираются поручить этому роботу??? Сейчас такую работу делает человек без образования за 5 баксов в час.
People mock this, but these are just the training wheel phases. They're teaching Ai how to have a body and accomplish tasks that a human would. A few years ago Ai art was jumbled nonsense, but now it can be so perfect that it can convince you, not to mention Sora the nearly perfect Ai movie scene generator. These bots will eventually have enough training data to work with autonomously, and if they lack, then they'll learn.
Yes, because the focus is supposed to be on Optimus. What does that have to do with its capabilities anyway? For a demo you don't want the viewer to look at anything but the robot.
Wrong. That's them training the robot. God people are dumb. Ever heard of ai? Yeah, well you need to train it. This isn't Boston dynamics where they hard code everything.
Wrong. Boston Dynamics does use AI to help their robots actually see and move properly around the environment unlike this diaper filled Tesla bot. God people are dumb.
Yes, it IS autonomous. No one is controlling it. The view goes 360° with no cuts, and you even get a full view around from the robots view. There are other bots in the video being trained via teleoperation - as the video tells you right there on the screen. But the one we're seeing has completed that training and on its own.
@@zaneshark What he said. Everything is already designed with humans in mind. If you can get a robot that is close to parity with humans in terms of dexterity you're golden. You can pump out the same model and sell it to various customers. KFC? Sure! T-shirt factory? Yessir!
Even though from a robotics standpoint this is very impressive, from a practical perspective this is useless right now, it is insanely slow, a human would do easily 3x it's speed and with less problems. Optimus still has some optimization down the line to be able to be really competitive.
Competitive with who? There's at least ten other humanoid robot companies out there now, and I haven't seen any of them match all the things we know Optimus can do.
Hello, does anyone know what brand of VR eyes the Tesla robot wears during operator training? And does anyone have a detailed technical description? Thank you.
Just for clarity 'sorting' was my wording not Tesla's , it's probably up to interpretation and I may be wrong but the sorting in the title is meant between other objects, so the robot is sorting the batteries and putting them in the box.
@@DerekDavis213 Wrong they are targeting completly diffrent industrys. You cant let a Boston Dynamics robot into a household, it would never ever meet safety standars as it is far too strong maybe even Optimus will have to adjust alot. Boston Dynamics has a huge benefit when it comes to hydraulics but they are NEW to electronics. Tesla has a huge benefit when it comes to production scaling and AI... the race has just started and as i said there are alot of competitors not just the hyped ones.
@@johannesschwitzky6474 How does Tesla have a huge benefit from production scaling and AI? Optimus is still a slow tedious prototype. And you want to talk AI? FSD is just a simple Level 2 assistant that makes mistakes every day.
Do people still put the batteries in boxes by hand? I would think the mechanical crane would place them neatly in any configuration at x10 the speed of any human
The start of Android is to use a robot to perform human-like tasks. When advanced artificial intelligence is completed and installed on Android, it will not end with a simple robotic arm.
There are lot of robot which can sort batteries really fast But what they are trying to show here is not how good a robot in sorting batteries But the precision of hand movements and just human like hand movements so one day they can do the tasks in future which can only be done by human hands
На таких роботак аватарах можно лететь на луну и подключившись к ним с земли, управлять ощущая полное присутствие! Осталось только научить протезы и сенсоры чувствовать мягкость и твердость, степень нагрева, вес, рельеф
They should still send real people into space. It's not about efficiency but about the spirit of such voyages. Human feet should touch the soil of distant worlds simply for the wonder of it.
@@kimberlyjacobsen4148🙄 uh, because it's a different design maybe. Who cares how it walks if it does the work well. Hell Agility's Digit has grasshopper legs. No one cares because it can do the job it needs to.
I don’t think gait is their priority and I don’t think it should be unless you can prove it causes issues. From what I’ve heard Atlas also falls over all the time which is why they focused more on quadrupedal robots for a while.
@@SamuelMM_Mitosisfrom what I also heard is that the reason the atlas falls over is because it does complex stunts which the Optimus can’t do. If you’ve seen the new atlas they have made it fully functioning and walking a lot better than optimus
@@ItzAwsomeWasTakenWe know literally nothing about the new Atlas. Was its walking hard coded? If yes it's extremely unimpressive. If it uses pure ai then they've skipped ahead 10 years and clearly know stuff open ai, meta, Tesla and google don't lmao The reason I say 10 years isn't because it's 10 years of progress but progress so quick it would have to be 10 years in the future.
@@SamuelMM_Mitosis I get it but it looks way cooler when the robot walks more upright like us, and we all know how important the cool factor is to Elon!
Well, the cells are sorted using special machines tens of times faster than Optimus does. In most factories, production is already fully automated. You hardly see any people in the body shop anymore, not just at Tesla. The electric motors are also quickly manufactured fully automatically. People only exist where robots are too stupid. For example, when assembling cable harnesses, where small connectors often have to be put together. I would then like to see Optimus climbing into the body and under the dashboard, putting the cables together. I don't see a single use case for humanoid robots here.
Uhh there are pick and place robots that could have filled that tray in 30 sec or less... Also this thing is lightyears behind anything Boston Dynamics is building years and years ago
Sigh. This obviously isn't supposed to replace specialist robots for one task, it's for general-purpose use. And Boston Dynamics have put zero humanoid robots into practical operation, anywhere, ever. They make really cool RU-vid videos with them, and that's it. Tesla are aiming for mass production and practical use. Just count how many separate Tesla bots are in this one video - that's probably more humanoid robots than BD have ever made in total. It's a different thing with a completely different goal. But go ahead, keep shit-talking Tesla, I'm sure it makes you feel very clever.
@@Xanthopteryx limited usage? They'll be able to do nearly anything a human can do. Not very efficient? They'll be able to do nearly anything a human can do. Very expensive? Humans cost tens of thousands of dollars *per year* and work only one third of the hours in the day (and two thirds of the days in the year), plus they want other benefits like pensions and healthcare. If Tesla can make these for $10K or (my guess) $30K or even $100K each, they'll have an ROI of months or weeks. If they get this working - and, granted, it's not certain yet - it will change the entire world. That's why.
@@BittermanAndy "They'll be able to do..." That is the problem. They Can Not do. And after ten years, the human is still superior. Just look at the flex of a human body, to begin with. Humans have a vastly superior brain too There is nothing that is getting even close to that. No computer on earth can get even close to the human brain. IF there were a market for this, Boston dynamics would have seized that already. But humanoids are mostly for show. Other types, like their "dog" Spot on the other hand has a real value and is used. They will never be able to manufacture this for that low price. And the training you will need to make it do even simple things (no, forget that you can sell a fully trained working robot that will do anything you tell it) cost millions. They will not get this to work. This is all a hype and a money burning project. And the money is out so it will end soon.
Yes. They're teaching the Ai what to do, and assisting it if it encounters an issue. Eventually the bot won't need any help and even be able to generate its own solutions to an issue.
@@plumbandsquare1 Can you imagine how low morale must be at Tesla right now? Thousands of layoffs, in many different *essential* departments, while Elan is pushing for a 56 billion dollar payday. Have you heard of quiet quitting? Some Tesla people might have that sentiment.
the irony of the office being empty of humans is fantastic. Elon's final dream sequence... just him and the robots forced to listen to his opinions on everything as free speech. I kind of a Twighlight Zone spectacular...
Ask Optimus to make a salad at the salad bar, or hand him a loaf of bread, some cheese and cold cuts and mustard and mayo, and ask Optimus: make me a nice sandwich. And toast it please. Optimus would be without a clue.
They replace the guy putting the batteries in the prep area using a stick with a robot arm that can place them there to make them available for Optimus to place them in the box. Next they will use the robot arm to replace Optimus and just put them straight into the box without Optimus.
For anyone wondering why it's not playing the violin and doing backflips while performing this task it's because they are isolating specific tasks for study. That other stuff is coming in due time.
@@allstar4065 um the company claims to be ahead of Boston Dynamics yet is using vr headsets to control the “autonomous robot” and now you’re making excuses trying to convince yourself it’s the equivalent to child development 🙄yeah go sit down. Same smoke and mirrors as “FSD”.
Optimus has such a slow gate because otherwise it might fall over and sustain damage. Atlas can walk or even run on uneven ground. Optimus walks 1 mph on a flat floor.
@@dougr8646 It is literally a demonstration of its current capability. Per the video, it is being trained to do a variety of human oriented tasks. That specific task could possibly be applied to a household chore such as unloading groceries. No one is going to go thru the time and expense of building a humanoid robot to replace a comparatively inexpensive single purpose machine.
Yeah I was thinking about that. An industrial robot with the right equipment could move a whole box of batteries in a second, gripping them with negative air pressure. But if Elon sees a market for this he's probably correct as he mostly is. These robots would be way more versatile then a specialized robot arm. This brings down conversion cost and downtime.
@@corwinzelazney5312 easy to find in youtube. One was demoed around 2 weeks ago and it was far more dexterous than tesla's and another was walking/running going up and down ramps and stairs ... in blind mode. Also much faster than tesla's
Yes these robots are slow & less flexible as compared to humans but humans got all these during million years of evolution.They're much better from their earlier versions within few years. There's no comparison between human & robots in many ways but be mentally ready for new changes.
I wonder when we see more AI driven and less teleoperated results at Tesla. All current demos, from Tesla and competitors are impressive on the mechanical side but the AI part of things should be much better highlighted.
From the little notes on the video it seems like the one putting batteries in slots was working from training and they just showed the training process. I could be wrong of course.
Boston dynamics isn’t really comparable. Their goals are very different. Tesla is much more AI focused. Their only real competition is Nvidia, and Nvidia hasn’t demonstrated any real progress, only fancy videos. I wouldn’t count Nvidia out, but right now Tesla is demonstrating the best real world AI capabilities
@@SamuelMM_MitosisNot sure Tesla have got beyond the “fancy video” stage. If it’s so great, why no live demos? The last one I saw three guys had to wheel it out.
@@tatata1543 I can’t speak for Tesla, but I’m guessing they are probably waiting for a significant moment or level of capability before a live demonstration
I've heard that the difference is that Boston Dynamics robots must be programmed, which could take hundreds of man hours. However, Tesla's robot can learn from a teleoperator.
les concepteurs de robot peuvent aussi utiliser l'intelligence artificielle du chatgpt qui est plus sophistiqué en plus il a aussi le chatgpt vision qui permet de visionner en temps réel le chatgpt vision doit être logiquement connecter au caméra du robot également au robot les robots avec une intelligence artificielle seront une technologie génial sa ca permettre au entreprise d'être plus productif sa va aussi aidé les personnes est ses une technologie génial les robot avec intelligence artificielle
Когда доработают технологию, тогда предстоят очень тяжёлые времена для человечества... Мировая Война и ещё куча всего не очень хорошего для простого человека...
