Thanks for a wonderful in depth review. It’s so hard to find both a tester that knows what they’re talking about and is also impartial when it comes to Teslas as most reviewers in the US are owners of the vehicle themselves, and so have a unrealized bias towards confirming their purchasing decision.
Tesla needs to bring out LR RWD. They are perfect for Australia. We don't need LR AWD for crazy 0-100kmh speeds, we need to be able to drive 700km without charging.
Still the best reviewer on the internet. Always appreciate your honesty. I do love the Model Y but been waiting to see how they improve the suspension until buying one for the family. We rented one in Queensland for a week last year. Yes, the app is utterly brilliant. The overall vehicle technology and infrastructure felt 5 years ahead of most cars on the road.
So glad to see the blue.. All I have seen so far are white Teslas in Vic... This is my colour of choice and I think the Model Y is the car I'll get in a couple years when hopefully I am comfy with the charging infrastructure for country wide travel. I think the Model X just isn't worth the massive cost over this, and the only thing I would change is to add one of the MANY available HUD options that slit and go up and down with the wheel. I know I'll get used to the middle screen but I don't WANT to, and the HUDS look fantastic and are cheap (relatively speaking). Blue with the light interior. Sold! I hope by then though that Tesla considers adding adaptive dampers, and also I wonder if the Aussie cars will lose Ultrasonic sensors.. I need to see Tesla's camera updates in action before I am convinced.
Model Y is the best daily driver all-rounder imo. Not the most exciting or sexy.. but you can roadtrip, carry a full car, tow small stuff on the odd occasion, load the boot and drop the seats for big things from bunnings.. and daily drive it.
@@hobo1704 every day i can start with 300km+ range as it charges overnight.If i want to charge i get 77km an hour at home. Roadtrip recharging with DC is a 15min stop every 2.5 to 3 hours which id be having a break for anyway. Toilet, lunch, coffee.. whatever. Full charge is ~500km which id rarely do in a day. Its faster than my older ice car, lane keep assist is great. Model Y has a tonne of storage and amazing price when it comes to value, its cheaper than a corolla currently to buy and operate thanks to current incentives and solar/electricity pricing compared to fuel and servicing. EVs arent for everyone, i still love my petrol power vehicles. But for a daily, its hard to beat (imo)
@@TrevorATX no, just stating the facts. Ok, tell me I am wrong muppet. Can you drive further with ICE than EV's in the same amount of time including refill times..
MYP just makes it simply way more fun; and manageable as a family car with a lower suspension - performs better when thrown in corners compared to the Long Range Model Y.
Paul, I have watched your channel for several years now, mainly the Phev/EV, reviews. And without a doubt you are the best vehicle reviewer in Australia. And certainly better than some reviews outside Australia. So thankyou and team. Keep up the Brilliant work. 👏👍👍
@@hobo1704I have both the Model 3 Performance and Model Y Performance. Both are excellent cars to drive and for family haulers will keep up with most AMG and M offerings. I also have a manual BMW M3 Dinan tuned car in the garage for the weekend. We have a Lexus GX and a lifted 4Runner. I have owned many performance vehicles over the years and the Teslas will keep up or beat most of them. My Model 3 Performance has Mountain Pass coil overs aftermarket rims and tires. There will always be EV haters who will never be open to owning one. I prefer to have the best of both worlds. Next car in the stable will be a manual 911 S.
You can change lanes with lane assist staying on. You indicate, then gently point to the next lane. The car will steer iteself into the next lane without the blue lines disappearing.
Hey Paul, my model 3 auto hi-beam used to be rubbish, but since the last couple of software up dates has improved massively to the point of being almost perfect. If you haven't used it for sometime, it might be worth trying it again. Also agree the LR is a great bang for buck, especially if you opt for the acceleration boost option.
I have a Model Y RWD and I can confirm the Auto Highbeam does dip when it detects any cars around 100-200m ahead and this has worked reasonably well since Oct 2022. It can get confused with some reflective signage so it dips a tad with some false-positives, but otherwise is pretty good. Hoping they introduce matrix highbeam update in the future since they have the matrix headlight hardware.
we've had ours a month and barely go over 120 here in NZ, we bort it for economy travel and not fussed about speed - we charge to 100% and so far so good.
Yeah I’ll get one some day when I get sick of my Model 3. Deep Blue Metallic color is the best. Plenty of sheen and depth, and doesn’t attract cops eyes like Red does.
Great review, Paul. I love my Model 3 Performance but the space of the Y does seem pretty practical. Regarding the issue of the car not understanding voice, I have had the same experience: never understands when I ask it to close mirrors. However, I got the latest software update (2023.12.1) today and it includes British English. It actually understood me first time today. Might be worth giving it a go.
Good to watch this retrospectively. I’m coming up to 12 months since I got my MYP and this is a comprehensive and reasonable review. I’ve enjoyed some of software updates that have come along since I’ve purchased the Performance. Sadly I can definitely confirm that kerb rash is very easy to achieve with the 21” Uberturbines, and after a year I’ve decided to get it fixed and start again! Overall I really love this car and would happily recommend it.
Hi Paul, love you work mate. I'm not an EV fan personally but watch the reviews on them and hearing you talk about how bad the safety systems are and the cruise control etc just blows me away. As you said how on earth does Tesla sell these to customers when they know they're so bad? Shows they don't really give a stuff about their customers as they know they're not getting the things they're being charged for and with these things being over 6 figures drive away that's a disgrace. Cars a third of the price have those systems and they work a hell of a lot better than on this thing.. Good on you for calling all the shortcomings out mate.. Cheers..
Hi Paul, I turn the auto high beam off every time after engaging autopilot by pushing the indicator stalk away from the driver. The auto high beam is simply useless in its current form. 2:48.
Took possession of my MYP 2024 last week and the seat belt rattle issue was the first thing I noticed after driving away from the Tesla dealer. What's funny is that I did the same thing he did ... I engaged the passenger side seat belt. I eventually took care of the rattle issue by buying some rubber covers for the seat belt housing sold on amazon. Rattle gone. Love my MYP otherwise. Great value for the buck in the US right now.
The performance Y is better than the other 2. I’ve owned one for a year. You can turn the performance into a long range by just swapping the wheels to the 19s and get the same range (and a slightly faster 0-60).
How do you find that the iPad on Wheels interferes with your eyes on the road? Don’t you miss having certain buttons for shortcut features? I can’t talk with my slow performing MG screen, but I miss shortcut buttons!! 😢
I've been waiting on this vehicle for some time, and thought that once the lease on our current vehicle expired it would be at the top of our list of replacements. Now I'm not so sure given you highlighted some quite significant flaws, not the least of which is the (poor) suspension. The good news is that Tesla has a policy of improving its cars over time, so 2 years from now, the issue might well be gone. Incidentally, the days of Telsa's poor quality are *not* over: my daughter received her M3 earlier this year with stone chips in the bonnet and it took 2 weeks for Tesla to fix it. They gave her a loan-car, but the issue shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Mate I have this car and to say it has poor suspension is probably not a fair comment. The suspension in my opinion is significantly better than the standard MY that I test drove. I would not be writing this car off until you have actually driven in one with the upgraded suspension
@@davepoulsen1007 thanks for taking the time to give feedback from the POV of an owner. You have a point, but Paul not only pointed out the issues, but he demonstrated them. That said, It's certainly not going to hurt for me to take one for a spin, when the time comes.
I have the Mountain pass performance coil overs in my Model Y Performance and it handles very nicely. My stock Model Y Performance is more top heavy and has more roll in turns. I am considering changing to coil overs in the Y down the road. The Tesla is still a very nice car for everyday driving. The long range Model Y is comfortable but I wanted the extra speed from the performance. My BMW M3 with Dinan tuned suspension will out handle the Model 3 Performance in turns. You cannot go wrong with the Tesla it will outperform many other cars in this same price range.
Just to correct you, the rear brakes on your performance Y is still the Brembo and NOT covers over Mando brakes you see on the US made MYPs. You can identify it by noticing the 2 dimples on this MYP rear brakes whereas the new fake brake covers are a smooth piece (can see difference if you Google the pics). MIC MYPs as still being made with Brembo rears, my RHD MYP was built Jan 2023 from Giga Shanghai and still has Brembo rears. I believe the change to the rear covers is ONLY on US made MYPs.
@@CarExpertAus Since about 90% of the stopping power is from the front brakes, the downgrade to the rears would have minimal impact. But I do prefer that our MYPs have the matching Brembos at the rear instead of some fake covers 🙂 Also I do find the brakes much more progressive than my Golf R, you really have to mash the MYP brakes hard but when you do, they do provide good stopping power.
Congrats on your new Tesla Paul. We test drove one MYP here in UK and we were so impressed by it's performance, practicality and tech. But, we ended up buying a slightly used M3P a few days later and we will never go back to ICE cars. It is just an amazing car and i get free charge at work.
No. Test drove the 2023 Y LR vs the Y P and there was no comparison; the P just felt way better. Way more buttoned down, better steering and brake feel too. In the sweepers, just more body control. It just felt a lot different. Better. That made my choice very easy of whether the P was worth the extra $.
I got the Model Y performance to match my Model 3 Performance. I did not want to go from one car to the other and feel that something was missing. I am glad that I went with the performance model. The alternative would have been to purchase the long range and add the boost. It would still be shy of the performance model though.
We had a look at a Model 3 & a standard Model Y yesterday. Initially, I thought the 3 would have been my choice, but because the seats in the Y sit up on a raised platform, getting in and out of the seat is so much easier, for an old guy. It was absolutely amazing! The 3 was hard to get in and out of. The biggest dissapointment however, was no spare tyre. The salesman said there was 4 years of road service, but frankly, if you have a flat, that can't be repaired with a tube of goo, you could be stranded for a long time! He countered with "For $300 you can buy a spare wheel". Yeah, but where do you store it! We declined the offer of a test drive, because we knew that the wow factor could have us buying it, against our better judgement. Seriously, no spare wheel was the breaking point. We have family in rural NSW & Victoria and buying anything without a proper spare could be a recipe for disaster
@@bradleystuart8608 I've been pretty lucky, with had 4 or 5 punctures over 40 years. So in reality, the risk is relatively low in the City. Mostly nails and screws, in carparks. That said, I've had 1 flat on a highway and 1 on a country road. In my opinion, a full-size spare is simply just good safety outside of the city, due to the distance (and time) to get assistance.
I do not have a spare in my BMW M3 but ai have them in the Lexus and 4Runner. It would be nice if Tesla included a spare. I really wish they would have the tire sidewall stick out more to protect the wheel. I do not know one Tesla owner who has not scratched their rims.
We had radar on our Model 3, and was always slow to regain speed when overtaking on cruise control. I'm this this will be improved with software updates.
All of the Toyota hybrids are exempt from the Australian tax incentives, thats why the Tesla model y is such a great car. Great review Paul, keep it up!
I own an MYP. In sport mode it’s better than my previous X4M and Macan GTS. Makes them feel outdated. I would like more premium upgrade options for the interior though.
Yes the interior leaves a lot to be desired. It is far behind Lexus, BMW and Mercedes in comfort. I was willing to overlook a lot of the interior amenities in lieu of the stress free driving and cost to operate and maintain. You cannot beat the speed for the price.
I now have three Tesla’s. I have two Model Y’s and one Model 3. Overall the buying experience was excellent. There was no need to haggle over prices and delivery was exceptionally easy. However, there are some draw backs. Currently we have significant negative equity in each of our three cars due to the continuous price drops after purchasing them. In one case I took delivery days after a reduction and attempted to reason with Tesla but they would not provide any kind of consideration. The cars ride very nicely and are very comfortable inside. However, the claim that you will get nearly 300 miles per charge is completely erroneous. You may extend your range if you are constantly on the highway but you are actually getting about 100-150 miles per charge in your normal day to day driving. Use those as your true calculations as you figure whether it's better to go electric or gas. Lastly we just had the worst customer service I've experienced in a while when it came to their repair shop. Recently I had to take my Model Y to Tesla because the undercarriage piece broke off for going through a puddle! Yes, a puddle on the street made the undercarriage break off. The best part of this is that they would not even cover it under warranty as the Telsa repair MANAGER said that was an "atmospheric event." Do your research and see how many others had the same issue. You should consider this car from all angles before making a decision. Although it is an excellent driving vehicle, you will experience significant frustrations if you ever need to repair it or ever decide to sell your car. Do your own research on all of these issues and draw your own conclusions.
We swapped a M3 for a MY. My wife loves the Model Y but I avoid driving it when I can. They took the M3, made it bigger and forgot to engineer/refine it. We have 2 work BYD Atto 3s as well and if I have the choice I rather drive that.
The rear emergency lock couldn't be made easily available because children could then open the door. The lock is electronic so the child lock cannot stop the emergency pull cord.
33:25 The energy consumption of standard model Y is equivalent to that of a petrol vehicle that consumes 1.92L/100km, based on a petrol price of $1.7 per litre in Australia.
Nice review Paul the Model y looks nice, i’m choosing between the model y performance and the up coming long range version and i would really appreciate it if you made a review on the long range cheers mate
Id still buy this over Kia or Hyundai. Its super fast but simply looks beautiful and menacing in Performance trim. I'lk never track my car so straight line speed is more important to me than being a Nurburgring champ.
Hey Paul, out of curiosity, when doing the higher speed stuff, did you still have the steering set to comfort? We also have a MYP and and sport seems to feel less jerky and give a little more feel when having a blast in the hills.
very good video. one question --- no spare wheel and Tesla roadside covers only 80 km from Melbourne . In Australia long distance without roadside assist. What are your vierws. Thanks .Mohan
Thank you for great, honest video. Very refreshing to hear also something else than just positive and great things about a Tesla car... 👍 Just one thing I don't understand... High center of gravity? What are you talking about? Considering all the battery weight at the very same height as in model 3, the few centimeters higher body simply cannot make such a difference. After all we are talking about electric car, not a gasoline car with V8... I'd bet it's the suspension / dampers difference what you are feeling...
its a good thing that the emergency release is hard to get for the back row. i definitely dont want people randomly releasing and damaging the car trim.
Paul. The 250kw charging is only achievable at a Tesla supercharger. A CCS2 plug standard is limited to 500A as show when charging. Tesla superchargers can achieve 650+A on 400v battery to achieve full 250kw.
The NACS (Tesla design), charge plug and socket is ONLY fitted to North American model Tesla’s. The Rest of the World (ROW), uses the CCS2 standard so all ROW Tesla’s have CCS2 fitted and so limited to 500A@400VDC max. So the V2 Superchargers installed by Tesla in the ROW market will only ever be able to deliver 200kW peak! Hmm.. so Tesla is now fraudulently lying by advertising a 250kW charge rate on their vehicles that can NEVER be achieved.
I like your honest review. Most other reviewers are Tesla Fanboys. People say Tesla is a sw company but to me they arent that good at it. Yes they are much much better tgan the competition. If Apple would to make a car it would kick Tesla's butt in every aspect. For some reason jo other serious condender from the valley. I xan see, it takes a lot more $$.
Applied for a lease on a myp and got denied with a 800+ credit score no credit debt at all. Yet I apply for a 2023 Jeep grand Cherokee summit with a msrp of 72k and get approved on the spot with 0 down no proof of income etc. is that a common thing with Tesla to deny someone who has 20 years of credit with 100% on time payments?
We just took delivery of a Performance Model Y on May 10 here in Bangkok. Our Shanghai Made version has the latest AMD processor plus all the sensors and radar. We have front passenger electrical controls. We are now in the hottest time of the year in Bangkok with the most sun. We have no trouble with keeping cool in our car in the middle of the day as the coatings on the top glass are so good and the air conditioner will freeze you out. Every thing works great from delivery. Matter of fact we had zero delivery complaints about fit and finish. It’s boring to talk about but it was perfect. Tesla helped by arranging an installer to place a wall charger in their new operating area here in Bangkok. At the time of deliver and now there are only three superchargers in all of Thailand. Hopefully they will add more soon to ease our normal travel around Thailand that we have been taking our Everest to go to Trat/Kon Chang, Cheng Mai and Sometimes Krabi and Phuket. Since we charge at home we guess we will have much use for superchargers in town. Unlike so many reviewers we understand that “fiddling” with screen is not very necessary as it is a voice command car. This reviewer is hasn’t found the luxury of the voice command. Apparently he hasn’t even found that the Tesla has different Drive modes as he stated that there were none so the performance model S has chill mode, as well as normal performance, mode and track mode just as a note. We have now realized that this new Tesla is going to cost us more money than we thought as it make owning and driving regular car seem so ridicules. We are going to sell the other cars and order another Tesla.
The iPhone of cars. Swallow the cool aid and jump onboard. Great tech, great ecosystem but compromised in some ways. Interesting to see if all cars look the same in 10 years.
Charging speed of model Y was limited by maximum current of DC charger (500A). For 400 V battery maximum is 400x500=200kW, depending on actual voltage. 800V battery has twice the voltage so it could teoretically charge 2x faster with same current.
I think you’re confusing charging rate with the peak rate. Clearly the Tesla advertised 250kW is a best condition peak rate. By your logic the 400V charger can clearly supply 200kW continually but Paul’s said his real-world average charge rate is about 120kW when going from 10-80%SOC! This has ALL to do with the onboard charge controller and battery architecture - principally thermal management of the batteries, which clearly demonstrates a “ramp” rather than “flat” charge curve.
