@@zolavib1187 oh I meant the Tesla only have to replace the tires. Don't use the breaks the car stop anyway. No transmission, no oil. We pay zero to charge the cars. I had to sell the mustang it was bittersweet.
@@zolavib1187brakes almost never because of regenerative braking (my previous EV had 40,000 miles and like 10% brake pad wear), a small amount of gearbox oil (doesn't have a transmission) and brake fluid at 150K miles. They only thing EV's need on a regular basis is tires, wiper blades and windshield fluid.
What happens when the batteries go bad it stay losing their range. Buy a cell phone the battery lasts 2 days, 6 mts. later you have to charge twice a day. Batteries suffer with every discharge/charge cycle. Blow a gas motor, replace for 5k. Blow your batteries who's putting in 20k into a 6+ year old vehicle? What happens to all the old EV's? They will become worthless because of battery replacement costs. Not to mention millions of mechanics out of a job and millions of diyers that can't afford to pay for maintenance or issues. Friend had his Tesla totaled for a small fender bender because they said it potentially caused damage to the battery. Auto insurance only covered him for a portion of the purchase price, want his fault, rear-ended. Corporate greed is the only one winning. Trying to get control of everyone by switching to electric meanwhile city council is telling me to limit ac usage during 100° days because the grid cannot handle it. Wtf? What am I missing?
@@juiced66lac first EV batteries don't "go bad" like disposable AA's or laptop batteries after 5 years. EV batteries are thermally controlled and normally last the lifetime of the car of 300,000 to 400,000 miles with only a small loss of range. Second, the battery systems of EV's are modular and can be reconditioned or repaired component by component if ever needed. If the battery control module detects a fault in module 5 for example, the module is taken offline and can be replaced for $600-$1200. Third, they can be recycled.
@@geffphishnutz7140 Most Tesla Plaid race drivers that I know usually give most other cars the hit (the Tesla doesn't launch until they do) - they don't even look at the light, just the other car (it's usually good for a .4 to .5 second head start).
@terrybertrand7159 actually a good strategy... never thought of it. Won't ever be flagged for an early start, and you know you're going to crush them down the track, so no reason to try to trigger off of the Christmas tree.
@@Bricklinsv1970 I'm not sure what you mean. From X speed to Y speed for any value of X and Y is going to our stock dual motor non performance Tesla with instant torque and no transmission vs any drive off the lot ICE. Drive one and you will be amazed and understand why combusting Dino Juice is no longer the best way to convert potential energy to motion. Respectfully, until that time, you have no data or frame of reference to support your opinion.
@@themarathoncontinues2289 - Consider as well that the Tesla can drag race 15 times a day, 365 days a year, nonstop for several years and never need to open the hood. LOL, you'd be lucky to get that Dodge through one weekend of racing without having to get under the hood or under the car to repair or replace something very expensive. You can make an ICE fast or you can make it last but not both. A 9 second or faster ICE will require a team with at least one full time mechanic and an owner with very deep pockets.
@@MichaelKingsfordGrayit's just newer technology, power delivery via electricity is much master that pumping pistons. EVs are still at the early stages of development now, can you imagine in 10 years from now when they also have lighter solid state batteries
@@ClarionCawwyes electricity is a better.. way to produce energy than an ice but if you are going to sit here and tell me educated person to educated person that we can get the energy density and safety of fuel into a battery - you need some more information bud lol. Currently known physics can't produce it cost effectively. And that's with all the money thrown at the research grants 😉
Heard at the horse races in 1908: “you know these automobiles go fast and all but they’ll never catch on just because of the SOUND. They will never have the clippety clop!!”
Differences is, more people liked the car sounds. Silence is BY NATURE boring for humans. If you want to be entertained and feel excitement, you dont go to a tai chi session, you go to nascar or a concert.
So true. There was a powerful movement against the adoption of gasoline (ICE) vehicles. In the earliest days they were unreliable, very hard to start, hard to find places to refuel them, very expensive and often referred to as toys for rich kids (sound familiar?). The gasoline vehicle was a serious threat to several large and well-established industries like veterinarian services, feed, grain and hay providers, blacksmiths, leather goods industry, buggy and cart makers, etc... These industries went to war with the internal combustion engine which they often referred to as "that infernal gasoline engine". Despite the fact that they were noisy, smelly and generally filthy machines, gasoline vehicles were cleaner than employing beasts of burden. Americans, especially those living in cities or towns, have largely forgotten what it was like to have their locations visited each day by hundreds, if not thousands of horses and or oxen. They've forgotten the literal TONS of manure that had to be removed from city streets and moved to collection areas. They've forgotten the fecal matter and 10's of thousands of gallons of animal urine that collected in storm drains creating breeding grounds for infectious diseases like Cholera, Hepatitis and Dysentery among others. They've forgotten the pervasive stench associated with using beasts of burden especially the corpses of those animals that died everyday. Now it's the internal combustion engines turn to come under the microscope and take its turn in the proverbial barrel.
I have a Tesla Y and a Camaro 1SS. I enjoy both for different reasons. Camaro is a 6 speed manual transmission. People sleep on Teslas until they are sitting behind one. 😂
My preference is "Don't You Want Somebody To Love?" (Jefferson Airplane) and "Waterloo" by ABBA. But the cameras pick up the music, then I have copyright problems with RU-vid. LOL
@dukeljk2191 ?? Not sure where Electric uses a ton of oil? Are you talking about burning it to make electricity? If so... there are much cleaner ways to do so. Check out the sources of electricity for Ontario, where the majority of Canadians live... Electricity Mix Nuclear Energy 55.3% Water Power 23.3% Natural Gas 8.1% Wind 9.0% Solar PV 2.5% We even call it "hydro" here because historically that is primarily how it was generated
The Plaid won easily and that was with groceries and kids in tow 😂 Just wait until the four motor Plaid is ready…. 2024 and 1400HP. The Model 3 and Model Y are both getting 3-motor versions with +650HP, but may not arrive until 2025.
We all know teslas are fast, but they're also piles of crap when it comes to reliability/problems. They are not good cars. They may be kinda cool and pretty damn fast, but still junk
@@jacksmith2315No. I've owned two Teslas and furthermore, I can't stand Elon. I really want a different manufacturer to make a better electric vehicle than Tesla does. That said, I did not have major issues with either of my Tesla vehicles.
@@jacksmith2315Where did you get that from? Something you read online but never experienced? We have two Teslas. One has 50,000 miles on it. The other has 40k. Neither have ever had any issues whatsoever. They've never been in that shop at all (not even for oil changes, hahaha). They've been flawless.
A client of mine took me for a spin in his Plaid today, it was a mind bending experience. I’ve been in plenty of fast cars but this was something else, it was like being electrocuted (in kind of a good way) vision went blurry, frozen in place, it didn’t make sense lol. Afterwards I felt like I just got in a fight my adrenaline was pumping. Unreal experience
My first drag strip-type launch in a 2015 Model S P90D with Ludicrous Mode made me dizzy. All the blood in my skull slammed into the back of my head. Focusing on steering was a problem. The Plaid is even worse. 🤣
I wish I could post a pic here. A Plaid owner sent me a photo of one of his mechanics falling out of the right front seat. Guy owns an auto shop. Anyhow, he bought a '21 MS Plaid and took an employee for an acceleration run. When they pulled back into the shop, the poor mechanic opened the door and literally fell out onto the concrete floor, legs inside, body on the floor, on his back. He told me whenever he drives the Plaid to work, that mechanic gives him the single-digit salute. LOL
That was an as kicking of biblical proportions. And that was a strip-modified hellcat, mind u! Imagine what thrashing a stock hellcat would've gotten?!
I bought my Model S Plaid in Oct. '21, a few months after they came out. So I took it to Willow Springs International Raceway for drags night on their 1,000-foot strip. At one point I was against a Hellcat Challenger. Light turned green, I released the brake and I immediately buried the guy. In the shutdown area, he indicated he wanted to talk, so we went into the pit. He came over, with helmet in hand, and asked: "What kind of Tesla IS this?" He hadn't heard about the Plaid. The Plaids are pure lunacy. I'm 77, and this is a bucket list thing for me. This is the kind of car I wanted when I was 16 but dad said: "ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY? NO!!!" So much for daddy. 🤣
@@tylerc.6347 JJ is just a BS name I use mostly for a Google Voice account. I'm just too lazy to logout of JJ and log back in with this name: Michael McKown, car is Pippi Plaidstocking. I do have my own YT channel: Mike's Tesla Model S Plaid Drag Racing Channel. Check it out. New 40-minute video, racing at Willow Springs.
@@thicniggazinc me either sound like the most boring shit ever, I went to a smaller drag race, less horsepower and less cars, before me and me friend left (we where still in grade school) we decided to stand as close as we could to the 2000 horsepower cars as we could and see how it sounded, it was a-fuckin-mazin, but you also can’t put 2000 in a Tesla, no room for upgrades and if you upgrade a demon a good bit, it’ll probably beat a model s plaid which is the fastest 1/4 mile at 8.74 but the demon can do 8.91 bone stock
What's most impressive to me about this is that the race WASN'T decided in the 60ft. The Plaid's party piece is its ability to boogie out of the hole compared to other cars, but this built Hellcat on the prepped surface had that sorted as well. So this victory from the Plaid was a matter of sheer, top-end horsepower. That used to be a weakness of EVs - obviously not anymore. Outrageous.
You did notice that the Tesla had to wait for the Hellcat to go first because they are racing to see who can get the best average time, not who is the quickest off the light. Because if that was the case, The Plaid would win every time by at least 3 to 4 car lengths
Gas guy here, but we've known for years EVs are a better method in every respect. Plus the Tesla has all wheel drive so there is minimal wheelie-rock, that and the computer pre-dialed for this exact race type. EVs really are better in everyway. Oh except for that V8 roar.
Fine for a short track. On a longer run the Tesla falls flat on its face. And after a few runs that Tesla wouldn’t be even close to catching that Hellcat.
You know dude was all in his feelings when he got out 1st and got passed like the paper weight on the teachers desk and the 2nd race said the hell with it half way down the track
NOOOO it's bad enough the women who have tesla cars and suvs we don't need more. They always speed up super quick so you can't pass then when you catch up to them they slow down and it's a constant up and down and it drives me insane. They're giving way too many idiots too much torque
Lol. The Tesla equivalent to a minivan outperforming everyone's dodge example or scat or ghoul or demon or whatever. Scat owner : I was outran badly by a Tesla minivan at the track. 🤣😂
I tweeted Elon Musk and told him if you're gonna name that launch stance after a cat, you need to add a butt wiggle, which could be programmed into the air suspension. Got no reply. 😪 Bummer.
Makes me feel good as an American to see an American owned and built vehicle smoke a Fiat product. ‘Please consult with your doctor to see if Stellantis is right for you.”
Plaid is just a normal but well designed for everyday driving, nothing too sporty, fancy, or loudy, yet can easily be the fastest car on earth. I'm not a fan of ev, but respect must be given when it's due.
What respect? They're a cheat code on drag strips. Combustion vs instant electromagnetic acceleration. Fire vs lighting. That isn't fun to watch and it's definitely not what we as spectators want to experience. We want engineering. Tuning. The noises petrol engines produce. All the factors that make a race an actual race. Not putting electric coils together powered by a huge battery and hitting the gas. Dude in the Tesla could have taken a nap. Where's the fun in that?
@@dirtbagliberalsnake5729 or just a slightly built demon, idk if you could tell it any kind of super or turbo charger on a Tesla, and ik a demon has a supercharger, you can still put on different tires, lighter rims, cut out some other things that weigh a good amount
@adrianscarlett didn't say anything about the vehicle. If you had a clue you would have realized that most folks can not handle these cars especially on the launch.
@@sad754ytWhen I worked time slips at the drag strip I'd have to lecture these guys about going too fast all the time. Some of them would laugh and ignore me thinking it's a joke so I'd pull their wrsitbands. Don't get mad at me buddy take it up with the tower. You don't have a roll cage, you're dead going that fast.
Tesla's quality issues are primarily with cosmetic items, such as paint imperfections, poorly fitting body panels, and squeaks and rattles (which are more noticeable because the cabin is so quiet!) - rather than core powertrain or infotainment functions.
@@EleTruk I drag race at Willow Springs in my Plaid. A track official actually asked me to stay at the starting line until the other guy is far enough down the 1,000-foot strip, so when I go it will be close at the finish. I normally do that now ... unless my opponent shows up on a trailer and has wheelie bars, or unless my opponent is another Plaid, in which case I go full out on the green. Exception to the trailer thing: I shoot a lot of video from the starting line and keep an eye on the starter's laptop. If I know the trailered car is slower, I'll give him the hit when I leave the starting line and take my turn. :)
Sad watching people try to make expensive ICE vehicles do what they really aren't designed to do. Making a high-performance ICE vehicle "hook-up" like that will never be conducive to long life. A nine second or faster ICE vehicle has to push huge torque and Hp numbers through a drivetrain that includes a multi-speed transmission and differential. The design of which will never be as robust as that of an EV especially in a production car. To keep a nine second or faster ICE vehicle track ready every week will require a team of mechanics and an owner with deep pockets. That Tesla can drag race 15 times everyday, 365 days a year for several years and never need to open the hood. LOL, you'd be lucky to get through one weekend of drag racing with a high-performance ICE without needing to repair or replace something expensive. You'd spend more time under the hood than you would behind the wheel.
@@Tron-Jockey Okay, let's look at the Tesla then. You need 100k for a Plaid, then at least 3k for a charger in your garage. And Pete forbid something break, then you'd need to replace that part at a specialized repair shop, where with an ICE, you just roll into the mechanic. Far more expensive to repair an EV. Not to mention battery replacements and tires because they weigh a lot more. ICE vehicles have been racing and pushing their limits longer than you've been pooping on this earth, so I would say they definitely are designed to go fast.
They'll flick their cigarettes at you, nearly cause a head on trying to beat me at a green, try to roll coal, spit, yell and act like the smooth brains they are. These people are knuckle dragging morons.
It often cannot be understood, until it is experienced. Their head is thrown back, and stays back until I let up on the accelerator (or until my wife screams SLOW DOWN!)
These races make no sense... Combustion vs. electric? Why? Stay in your classes and stop racing electric against Combustion.... it's stupidly rediclous. Why would you even waste gas ⛽️?
@@WesternEagle223 every plaid... no mods... 1/4 mile 8.73 ... over, and over, and over. Only variable is driver's reaction time. It then drives off the track at the end of the day, ready to go home. Multiple police departments in California, Wisconsin, Nova Scotia, British Columbia (those were the quick Google Seach results) have made the switch because of the reliability, and cost savings. Change is coming.
"It's all sound and fury, signifying nothing"...sad. I used to, and still occasionally do, build ICE cars. It was a big part of my growing up, but the power of EVs is undeniably superior. All that said, people still watch horse racing, so motorsports is unlikely to ever die out
Electric cars are less efficient than gas cars, it takes 6 years to become more efficient because it makes what an average gas car does in 6 years in a few months because of the batteries being made, and after 5-6 years the batteries need replaced
I drive performance EV's BECAUSE of the driving experience. Insane instant linear acceleration, the lowest center of gravity available, one pedal driving and actually hearing great music through awesome speakers. Now that's a great driving experience.
This reminds me of an air show I went to. They had a P51D Spitfire next to a 737-800. Ya the Boeing was a faster craft, and it was all but ignored by the fans, but what a crowd around that P51.
Should compare fighter to fighter. P51D next to F15, F16, F18, or Stealth. I've been to static displays and walked around all of them. Admired the great feats of engineering... for their times... but time does march on. What was best, is now no longer.
The tesla plaid is the best for sure for many years to come in every way !!! Very practical slick and superb in performance etc.. Sad to see some many jealous tesla haters out there man!!:(!!
Well, let's even things a little. "Plus 1" additional Tesla Fan! Those PLAIDs are awesome!! Rented 1 on Turo. "Love at 1st swipe!" Gotta have one. Runs 0-60 in 2.3, and ¼ mile in 9.44! Maybe faster. Drives around the burnout box and on street tires and runs 9s!! Even the haters got to admit that is Awesome!!
@@WesternEagle223 My first Tesla Model S was a 2015 P90DL, the L meaning Ludicrous Mode, the predecessor to Plaid. That thing launched violently. I mean, the blood in your brain slammed into the rear of your skull. Acceleration dropped off fairly quickly, tho. I believe Tesla dialed down the violence of the launch a bit with the Plaid.
Tesla needs to make a EV bike , so we can replace all these annoyingly loud harley and crotch rockets with faster and quieter machines. Some of us who are sitting outside , like to be able to have a conversation without interruptions.
Anyone who talks crap about Teslas has never driven one. The instant torque, even at highway speed, literally never gets old. Whether you want to own one or not, you have to at least respect the engineering that went into them
Imagine not knowing that a teslas battery being made makes the same amount off pollution that the gas car makes in 6 years, and by the time it’s been 5-6 years it needs replaced
Temperature has minimal if any effect on the power output of an electric motor. It can have an impact on range, which is why we set our Tesla to prewarm the battery in the winter, and to cool the car in the summer, while it is still plugged in. Put good tires on, and our dual motor model 3 will easily crush most if not all street legal vehicles.
The amazing thing is all these people bashing Tesla will probably turn around and tell you that they are true patriotic Americans without even stopping to think and realize that Tesla is the most American-made car in the world not made in Mexico or Canada or Europe or South America like other so-called American brands. They hire over 700,000 Americans and pay them way more money than the other American brands. It's American Ingenuity and Innovation and brains that came up with this amazing machine and Tesla is taking over the future of automotive transportation despite the decade lead that China has. As far as I'm concerned go Tesla go America and the rest of these yahoos can go away
Not quite. Highest percentage of American made parts and built in the USA, true. The number of Tesla employees is 127,800, not far removed from GM's total. And apparently UAW-union employees make more than most Tesla employees do.
The experience is certainly different, and I can agree that if your first love is always special. Head snapping launch and flat acceleration curves ease the transition, and fuel savings can buy a case of beer every day. :) *this message is not meant to encourage excessive drinking. the reader is responsible for their own decisions hehehehehehehe*
It's absolutely ridiculous to race a crappy Tesla. First, sure it's going to win off the jump. It has no moving parts like real cars. Guess which car would win a long race, will last longer and higher resale.... The dodge and frankly any other car. EVs are total crap and if you have seen what happens when they catch fire, you would never drive it again Just the batteries alone cost more to replace than the entire car. It takes double the resources to build one. The idiot who now owns dodge has absolutely destroyed the company. And that's one big reason everyone is buying a Last Call
Yes, EVs make so much pollution when they are being made that it takes 6 years to become more efficient than the gas car which makes almost no pollution while being made, and most of that pollution is made while the batteries are being made, actually all of it, and after 5-6 years the batteries need replaced
Wrong... the Tesla would pull away from the Dodge on the top end. It is one of the safest cars in the world, EVs are far less likely to catch fire, the batteries degrade slower than most *cars* , and / are / cheaper to replace than the car.
Chill out. EVs have moving parts, but far fewer. Percentage-wise, there are far fewer EV fires than ICE car fires. Tesla batteries are under warranty for 8 years or 150K miles. There are scads of Teslas running around with half a million miles on the batteries. You don't know what you're talking about.
Its almost dumb that most of these gas cars even try racing these teslas. All of the power in electric cars goes straight from the batteries to the wheels which makes it pretty difficult for any gas car to beat becauseof all the mechanical parts in a gas car to get the power from engine to wheels.
My daughter just bought a new Plaid. I’ll see it for the first time tomorrow. You think she’ll let her daddy drive it? Lol She finally got a car that will beat her husband’s Porsche 911.
That wasn't the plaid, it was just a model S, the plaid has a wing in the back and a thicker hood, the plaid is much much faster with an option of insane acceleration and lowering cheetah stance
Ehhh, sorry, that is wrong. It is the Plaid. The other option is the Long Range, and it won't do a quarter mile in the 9s. No big wing comes stock, the hoods are the same, and I'm sure that blue Tesla has the Plaid badge on the back.
The stock Plaid brakes suck. I replaced my rotors with Mountain Pass Performance versions and the pads with track/street versions from Unplugged Performance.
@@trythis2821 Purple hat, cooling vanes. That looks like the Easy Big Fella setup from Mountain Pass Performance, which I also have. I have the stock calipers with street/track pads from Unplugged Performance. Additionally, I had the front brake dust covers cut off -- they interfere with heat dissipation, which MPP proved. Works very well on the drag strip, much better than stock. At Willow Springs where I race, the shutdown area is very short so I stomp the brakes. You still get the brake overheat warning after a couple runs in close succession, but that's not based on measured temperature. The car makes a calculation, which is wrong for my brake setup. So I ignore it. By the way, my name is Michael McKown, car's name is Pippi Plaidstocking. I was just too damn lazy to change my Google account in answering. 🤣
@@trythis2821 I tried answering earlier but I don't see my comment. All right, it looks like the brakes are the Easy Big Fellas from Mountain Pass Performance. Air vanes and the purple hat. I have the same setup on mine. I still have the stock calipers (now painted red) but the pads are street/track from Unplugged Performance, along with stainless brake lines and upgraded brake fluid. I also had the front dust covers cut off. MPP proved they retain heat. If I run 2 or 3 times in quick succession, I still get a brake overheat warning, but that doesn't come from actual temperature measurement; it's a calculation the car makes, and it doesn't apply to upgraded brakes, so I ignore it. Looks to me like that Tesla is also running Martian forged wheels. BTW, Julian Jacoby is a BS name I use mostly for my Google Voice account. I'm just too lazy to change account names when answering here. Real name is Michael McKown and my car is: Pippi Plaidstocking. I have my own racing channel, check it out. Latest video is 40 minutes of fun at Willow Springs International Raceway. It is: mike's tesla model s plaid drag racing channel. Merry Christmas! 😎
