In this video we give you a walk-around of the Tesla powered Porsche 944 and take it out on a spin to the coast via some of the best roads in Wales. www.electriccl... / electriccla. . / electricclas. . / elecclassiccars
This is a really cool conversion, it fits the car very well, i would be really interested to see how you guys integrate gauges and stuff, using microcontrollers to go from digital to analog ? I have no idea how you do that and that's why it impresses me the most.
Great job! I used to have a 968, which was the final version of the 944. I especially like how you handled the gauges. Brilliant! Brought back memories. Thanks 🙏
Lovely conversion. I know such work costs a pretty penny, but with each video I'm more and more into the idea. As soon as I'll have the cash, you'll definitely hear from me :)
I have 11 cars, none of them worth very much. Two of them are 944's, a fixed head and a convertible. I've owned 5 944's in total, the first one I bought in 1992. If I had the money, and I don't I'd convert the fixed head to electric. But I'd never convert the convertible, it's so sorted and sounds so well it would be a shame!
Frustratingly, super vague on details. Vague underhood shot from one side. There's a PS pump, so a constant-on electric motor runs the 944 PS pump, but not EPS conversion such as Prius? What's the total weight and F/R? What's 0-60 approximate (not just "whoooah"). I laughed, but sorry it was so pointless to show us the carpeted hatch area, what's important we want to see is what's on the underside of that area, the battery and Tesla motor, show us how it looks now, and so on. How doe it sit in the cradle with the CVs and shafts and such? How does it charge, how long does it take? If you have regen braking as described while he's driving, then it's only the rear wheels braking when you lift off the throttle ... that would be super scary at speed; one inspiring thing about the 944 chassis is stability under braking, but not if it's only the rear, and how did you balance F/R then with the 944 brakes combined with Tesla motor regen? As a 30+ year owner of many 944's, so much I want to know and so little content. Oh, and ..... even a vague mention of potential cost range? Not to be harsh, it's just that there is obviously so much here, yet so little coverage it's frustrating. More, please.
To answer your "If you have regen braking as described while he's driving, then it's only the rear wheels braking when you lift off the throttle ..." question. My answer is: Yes, you would think so! ... but I have a RWD only Tesla Model 3 and it isn't the issue you might think (if this car handles similarly). Though regen adds some useful retardation it isn't like full-on braking. If you are seriously pushing it you are still using lots of actual brakes. (Actually it's a bit like on a sports bike where you control rear and front brakes separately ... a little rear-focussed braking settles the bike, making it "sit", then the added front brakes do the serious business!) In my Model 3 when swooshing along at a good speed (but not track style) the regen is used in a progressive way. You don't actually lift off like on a fuel car... instead you develop the technique of feathering off the accelerator pedal with some finesse to control the slowing off the car. Some people get the technique very quickly and for others it takes longer ... if you just lift off fully all the time you risk making passengers feel sea-sick!
Woooahh. My dream car. 😍 Love your conversion, especially the gauges, they look original as the car was designed like that. Love it!! 👍 Would it be possible to stick a CCS Connector somewhere, maybe under the bonnet, because under the Fuelcap seems not possible. Anyway amazing job. 😀 Maybe one day i will bring you a 944 to convert. :D I have now a even stronger "i have to do that" feeling. Will you maybe sell Bolt-in-Packs for the 944 to Germany, is there a certificated shop who could do this?
Great conversion! Now you have done a 944, would this now reduce the conversion cost slightly as you’ve already sussed out the fettling and thus reduce the duration? 👍🏻
When you do your classis test drives which are well done by the way not to long and enjoy going along for the ride, could you also give us a estimated cost on each one you do and maybe how long it took and what was easy or hard on it? A simple breakdown list put on screen of what was replaced and refitted please. Would be great thanks. Keep them coming!🤟🏼
I can see plenty of these being converted if a Tesla drive unit fits. I wonder if anyone is develooing a kit. I hope the model 3 motor will fit in my TVR project! 🤞⚡🤔
I want a cheap, off-the-shelf conversion kit which could fit Cortinas, Vivas, Avengers and MGBs. That'll be the game-changer. I'd love hundreds of BHP in my Austin A35.
@@raypurchase801 kits for certain cars are coming through. Labour to do it is expensive due to how much time it takes and its a very specialised end of the market. Most cost effective way is getting an adaptor plate made for your gearbox and pop a motor on that. If the gearbox isn't strong enough see what less expensive box you can fit that is 😉. Then get the batteries, inverter, controller charger bobs your uncle
@@chargeheadsuk Yes. Agreed. Eventually costs will fall, and the quality of equipment will improve. Back in the 1970s, the earliest, dreadful VHS recorders were almost as expensive as an Austin Mini. But labour will always be expensive.
Drove a petrol 944S2 for 10 years. I miss it every day. Your video makes me want an Electric version of it. I have no idea what it would cost to make one....
I got a 944 a few years ago intending to ev swap it. I was worried my expectations were too much, so its such a relief to see you've succeeded in doing it just the way I was hoping.
Was looking forward to this one, it is one of my candidates for future EV classic daily driver. You did not mention gears, only that you replaced the original transaxle, so does it have gears or is it fixed ratio? What's the estimated top speed then? Would be great that you list all specs of the cars in the video description for info and future reference, also the cost of parts and conversion if it can be disclosed (I know it will vary if you do again the same car, but so that we all can get an idea over all the videos of what costs are, if they tend to decrease with time, etc). Keep the good job!
@@ElectricClassicCars That's the standard Tesla ratio so about 15 kph per thousand revs with a Tesla motor being able to spin at 18,000 so maybe 225 kph.
Guys I was wondering; just for interest sake, could my 2012 Nissan Juke be electrified? And also, would it be possible for you to tell us how much it costs for both the donor cars and the electrification of the vehicles. Thanks....
Cars made before late 80s often had easily replaceable round dials where's later cars often had the gauge cluster all moulded in as one plastic instrument panel.
0:47 While the 3 litre 4 cylinder in the Porsche 944s may be as large as modern 4 cylinders get because of vibration issues, prewar 4 cylinders used to be much larger. The Bentley 4 1/2 had a 4.5 litre four cylinder. Stutz's original Bearcat had a 6.39 litre four banger and there were some early 20 th century racers that had 4 cylinders with as many as 14 litres. It may sound crazy but the dawn of motoring was a crazy time.
Best Porsche ever, front engine, one head motor, basically conventional in layout with excellent weight distribution and it looks good. I believe the reason they could build such a large 4 cylinder is because they used twin counter rotating balance shafts using technical data supplied by Mitsubishi.
Glad you did it. The '944 is about the only Porsche that looks good. Most of them are ugly, giving them the name 'Squashed Frog'. Now, this one not only looks good, but it also sounds superb! Thanks for the excellent video. 🙂👍
7:25 - And as far as range is concerned... on the scale of "Stig" down to "James May", I'd say we've been generally doing a little bit "Jeremy Clarkson" with the occasional "James May". Brilliant description. Thank you for the reference.
I've been thinking of doing this exact same conversion on my 95 240sx(200sx in the UK). You mentioned a 48kwh pack, how many cells in series is it? The motor on EV West is listed for 84-96 cells.
Look at the porsche classic parts prices... cheap porsche era has ended and its a shame as it were great cars for many years if you were born and had some amount of money.... undepreciated for years.
I had a 944 Turbo for 10 years as a daily driver. In the same Copenhagen midnight blue. Such a fun car. I can only imagine this one is more fun. Congratulations and I hope the owner loves it.
Like the fact youve kept the gauge faces original ... Classic instruments and faces are a big part of a classic cars interior style. Its V8 big bro with a full performance motor conversion would be a true Modern supercar version.
In the late 90's had the "absolute pleasure" of driving a 944 2.5 from Bristol to Cotes d'Azure (aller-retour), including the Monaco Circuit. Lasting impressions: Grip, high and predictable cornering speeds, fast - 'a "pocket" GT car!
You said it Moggy, a "Daily Driving Classic". I'm thinking for the practicality of this build, plus the fact being it's a Porsche is tremendous combination. The nickname "King of the Curbs" wasn't for nothing. Could we also say that this is a very reasonable way to build some cars that one would not normally buy, (because the manufacturers insufficiency in design that would create repairs and upkeep you can't afford on the petrol engines). So to me this would be no brainer to own, can't wait for more of your "transplants". Cheers mate...-theautojunkie-
Can’t wait to see this convention on Vintage Voltage. Once again and awesome conversion on a cool car. That car reminds me of my VR6 Corrado from back in the day before it got stolen.
@@ElectricClassicCars I'm looking forward to a one-kit-fits-all arrangement to fit Cortinas, MGBs and Minors. I wonder where we'll be in ten years from now. I'd love something which would fit my Austin A35. Hundreds of BHP would be lovely, but 60+ would be nice.
I think this is great. When I had a 944 it spent most of the time at the garage as there were frequent failures which cost a lot. Are these guys really Welsh?
Largest capacity 4-cylinder petrol engine in a production car? Try the Fiat Tipo 55 at 8.5 litres. But even more ridiculous is the Fiat S76 "Beast Of Turin" at 28.5 litres! The latter probably doesn't count as a production car though in most people's opinion.
Just think classic vehicles need to go this way to keep the fun factor and everyday drive ability, I would even do this with my ex-army landy to give me a daily driver unlike more of a weekend vehicle as it is at the moment, would love to get over 55mph in it and not be overtaken by a HGV on the motorway 😂
Dont get me wrong, you pay what you pay this is not cheap and that the way it is... all of us would like it to be cheaper but it will rather not happen till we find some new cheap and susteinable batteries.
Top conversion Vintage Voltage is my favourite programme keep up the good work. Have you ever converted a Rolls Royce Silver Shadow or Bentley T series?👍
I think it was 3 years ago, when I first stumbled on their page. And ever since then, I have dreamt of having an electric porsche 912 made from them. I hope that day comes soon!