Tesla Powerwall II Vs SolarEdge Energy Bank 

This panel can put out close to 100 watts ru-vid.comUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.

It's a good day when I get to see one of your comparison videos... :D

We installed Tesla 1 Powerwall2+/20 Tesla Panels (8.5kW) in October 2021 and spent 5 weeks off grid with no problem. Note we had sunny or partial sun for all those days (San Diego area). May have needed grid if consecutive rainy days.

Very fair & informational! Great job.

Great job like always

To be clear, Powerwall+ (Powerwall PLUS an inverter) is rated at 7600 watts continuous whereas standard Powerwall is still rated at 5000watts continuous. The + version requires also using Tesla's RSD (which doesn't have DC optimization). My company decided against using Powerwall+ but we continue to sell standard Powerwall.

A DC coupled system- such as Energy Bank - has another great advantage - it can be charged directly from DC in times were the inverter is at peak power (in sites where oversizing occurs). This means That even though you have oversizing, energy is being used , and can be later sold for a profit. This makes the DC solution a much better deal in the long term - as you actually can make money.

This is very good information. I am in Michigan and currently have a 9kw system with Solar Edge Optimizers, large Capacity Solar Edge inverter and a Solar Egde data module. This has a been the debate to get a Powerwall II or now this Solar Edge Energy bank. This helps. I still have alot of questions, but your 2 videos on the Solar Edge Energy bank have helped give me some good information.

You can also go off grid within the Tesla app, as well as how much power is discharged to a Tesla vehicle

Isn’t cost per kWh a far more relevant metric than total cost? Plus you didn’t break down install cost, how each system behaves in a power outage, whether a retrofitted SolarEdge battery requires additional hardware (pretty sure it does) and three phase compatibility. I think you need a better, more detailed scorecard.

Hey there I’ve been following your Channel for a while now and although I like very much how you compare the products I do think that you were missing to include two major aspects : number of cycles that the batteries can provide and the operational temperature which will dramatically impact the performance of the batteries and their warranty . At the end aren’t we aiming for sustainable solutions? Also I am surprised that I haven’t seen Blueplanet energy batteries on your channel ; by far the very best product in the market probably the more expensive dollar per kilowatt bud definitely the very best long lasting battery available today. If you haven’t used them , it will change yours and your clients Lives for at least 21.9 years ! Thank you and take care !

It will be interesting to see what Tesla can do with their Texas power company license for people with Tesla Powerwalls and solar. If they can avoid some of the distribution charge, that's almost half of my power bill without solar or backup. I know I have to pay something for the distribution network, but some of that should take be time of use as well.

Do either of these options work is mounted in a cold space. I’m I’n Minnesota. My solar edge inverter is in my garage and gets very cold. But I was told the Tesla solar wall has to stay warm. This it would be a little harder to run the wires into my base,ent then back out to the inverter. Would be nice if they can be mounted in the garage next to the inverter.

hi! I have a solaredge se6000h with back up but I cannot go offgrid, in the sense that solar panels turn off and only battery will support the house untill it discharges, is there a way around that?

You need to look at how Tesla VPP works, it’s limited to a few states at the moment, but as it’s adopted in more states it’s a +50 points. Massachusetts is the best example, California the worst example, and Texas TBD. Ok comparison, I don’t know how the Tesla V2 gateway ties into your pricing and comparing, but it’s a huge plus in many installs IF you plan around it. My house has an older main panel, and the tesla gateway became my new main. Pretty cool feature. I do wish they had built in a smart generator control into the v2 and maybe a dedicated smart 2 pole for EV chargers

Great video and if I was still building you'd be high on my list. My Enphase 10kWh battery cost $7000 in CA. I saw an estimate for the Energy Bank 10kWh to be the same price. Also the Powerwalls are hard to come by. I know the purpose of the video was for a different purpose which you explained, but I just thought I'd throw out some numbers. And please thank your spouse for their understanding of the time commitment of making these videos. Vlogger significant others don't get enough credit.

When you compare cost, is it cost per unit, or cost per KWH. If its unit cost, how do they compare in cost per KWH?

Is it actually possible to get a PW2 to add onto an existing system? (Just scheduled a call)

Is it true that the solar edge inverter and battery bank won’t work in a grid down situation? Unless you have an additional backup interface? If so, what additional cost does this add to the system? Where as the Tesla powerwall 2 can provide backup power in a grid down situation?

You do realize that it's a mute point, you cannot purchase a Tesla powerwall any longer by itself it can only be purchased with a Tesla solar power installation

You’re all so lucky, wish I could afford a decent power bank for my phone let alone my house !! Wait, I don’t even own a house !! 🤦🏽 at least I have a phone… phew ! I was getting depressed there for a second. 🙄

The idea that energy bank is cheaper (per unit storage) is crazy. TO match powerwall you have to add an inverter (or two). Then you have lower capacity. When you get into it powerwall is surprisingly cheap for a market leader

I dont get the advantage of using a DC coupled System behause you can Not Connect Solar Panels and battery directly, you will Need at least a DCDC Converter to do MPPT and adapt to Batterie voltage. So you have also Converter losses as on AC coupled Systems, or i get it wrong?

Also don't forget the conversion loss from dc to ac and then again from ac. back to dc on tesla powerwall.

Can the Solar Edge battery be charged from the grid when power is cheap?

I have 2 different solar panels on each side of my roof. One side is a Solar Edge and the other side uses Enphase mini inverters. What are my options?

Will it still charge the batteries charge during the day if no grid is detected by the bsystem

Good analysis. However, your criteria are for the completed installation. What happens when the product goes down at critical times? Which organization is capable of a fast and efficient response. Maybe that trumps the 'X' factor in importance.

I got my money on Tesla Powerwall

Does either battery/inverter system provide a benefit with V2H bidirectional charging from a V2H-compatible EV?

Would $/kWh give a better price comparison? Granted there’s all the other scoring factors.

Have you any comercial office in Spain ? To get information about these components.

Get the ENERGY BANK!!!

My concern with both Tesla and Solaredge is product reliability and customer service. It can take months to get any equipment from either company repaired or replaced. The only thing you can depend on is the bill 💰💰 coming every month even though you are not getting what you are paying for.

Tesla: Available SE: Not until next, ummm, April? We are waiting. Firmware updates are all Energy Bank related yet no product available. Marketing push yet no product. Who’s running the joint? Still waiting on backup generator support. Over a year late? Come on guys. 😁

i Feel the powerwall win by a longer shot than just 1 point , but OKAY , u guess that is just my opinion.

Hi Joe. Is it possible to reach you directly?

More power, more capacity for only a $1,000 more... can you make the same system for the same price?

I have Tesla Solar system, no Powerwall 2. I want to buy, but from whom? Here in Florida in a 3,000 sq ft home, built 5 years ago.

Second hand one extra point to Tesla.

It’s ridiculous to compare the two on price per unit as price per KWH of storage makes the Tesla the cheaper option. It’s like comparing the price of a 13.5 gallons of fuel with 9.6 gallons and saying the latter is a better deal! This guys away with the fairies 🧚‍♀️.

As a rep for a solar company I've learned a few things about Tesla. Tesla I would not even discuss, they will not realistically be available until late 2022 or 0r 2023. Tesla changed their mandate for all solar sales, every solar customer must have have power walls included. They will give their own sales batteries before they make them available for public purchases. And if you need support, the wait on the phone is an average of 85 minutes. We focus on SolarEdge. You make some great videos though!

you say the solaredge is easier to retrofit onto a solaredge system...but why is that?

Tesla wont sell the power wall unless bundled with solar last i heard.

The display of the product on a TV screen did not bring out the product enough, all i saw was white.

Yeah just totally didnt mention that you can’t even get powerwalls anymore unless you are buying a full Solar system from Tesla solar…

But I thought Tesla through us peasants to the curb if we didn't buy their solar system, they wouldn't sale us one of their power walls.

Why not just buy a Ford Lighting that has a battery capacity of around 150kw…equivalent to around 15 power walls ….. Ford Lightning $50k. 15 power walls. $100k……then you also get a truck to drive😁😁 for half the price

Tesla no longer sell the batteries to everyone. You must have Tesla solar to purchase Tesla batteries.

I thought you gonna compare 2 backup batteries but you all sing a song for Tesla. For $

This was a pretty superficial and bad comparison. Didn't go into any detail or explanation. Didn't convert important facts. Didn't account cost difference in terms of storage difference. Didn't cover app features for both. Waste of time.

They are both a bad idea. Lithium Ion is not good enough; and it is in short supply. Using Li batteries for walls takes away from EV and Hybrid production; which is already very limited. TOTAL EV PRODUCTION is 1/500ths of the world vehicle fleet. EVEN IF production jumped 10x over night - it would take 50 years to replace ICE, walls only add to that time; while true it is one of the few ways for a electric to really be green - it simply doesn't work out.