Tesla Self Driving vs Everyday Roads! 

It’s much better than your average new driver though!

@@wrxdrunkie no it is not.

True

I only use it on long routes, and it’s damn good with that too.

Good analogy

Great comparison. I actually tell my wife that my Tesla drives better than my daughter. She only has her permit. And for good reason! I seriously feel safer in my Tesla on FSD than I do when she drives.

Dirty Tesla has a great video with his wife that shows her nervousness with it

He was rarely over 40 miles an hour. Didn’t really have much to be so nervous about.

Hopefully soon this will be lowered as trust increases.

Haha. Yea but that's how I was with my first experience with active cruise control, until I got used to it then it became relaxing - I miss it when I don't have it now. Could be the same here. After a bit of practice and getting to know its limitations it might be fine.

Same! I always felt that self driving was a risky endeavor, but this video made it clear. Self driving is definitely not for me!

wrg, no stress x etc nmw

Those suspensions.. ouch

hearing Marques sigh at 4:30 out of nervousness has me anxious too

I feel stressed every time I have to drive on highways with lots of merging and lane changing. So much so that I try to stay on simpler paths so I don't have to worry about it. Would be nice if AI learned easier routes for it so you can choose to go a bit longer route in exchange for less worrying about it.

thanks for letting us know you're an engineer

@@EspressoIsDrugsthat’s true! If all cars are self driving it will leave 0 room for human error. The cars will always know where it is and what is around it. I hope they can implement this in the future for now I can only dream :(

​@@EspressoIsDrugsNot really, you can see that it has problems with stationary objects as well.

@@EspressoIsDrugsonly if they could communicate with each other

​@@EspressoIsDrugsi see what you mean. But then all perons that walk or make bicycle would need to be robot too :) !

Thats the ONLY type of fsd videos ive ever watched. 100% honest no edit videos.. not sure what media youve been exposed to

@Jay R Call the geoguessr pro players right now

@@dmyrick6438 Do you know other trustworthy and precise content creators/videos who you might recommend watching?

if you like FSD videos like these, you should check out AI DRIVR.

@@dmyrick6438 um the Tesla Semi video wasnt sped up?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What really makes him great tech reviewer for me is his honest openion based on what he experiences .. I totally trust his evaluation to any current tech. So do all his subscribers and viewers . I mean u cant pay him to cheat . Hes not that kind of a guy . I think if he wasnt then tesla would've payed thausants to make him view self driving as total future and a totally trustable tech

@@cosandreas9414what’s funny andreas?

@@7Frosty7 I was bouuta say that, buddy is tweaking 💀

The man discredit a lot

In your words, effectively…we aren’t there yet. I agree with that assessment.

exactly, we are a ways from that.

Give it 30 years

I mean that don’t sound too far in the future tbh…

Until then, don't allow this substandard crap to be legal

@@jerryboics9550that would halt innovation

The embarrassment takeover 😅

@@mkbhd Yep - that is most of my takeovers too. Its like "the people behind me are paying the price for my beta testing... sighs"

@@mkbhd how about a drive in other weather conditions, FSD is actually flawless in CA because Tesla AI team is in CA so most of the testing is done there

It would have handled that situation though. I’ve driven cross country with the car doing almost the entire drive and have seen damn near every situation you would see day to day. Embarrassing moments happen. Sometimes you just have to say ‘f it’

@Daniel Wolf Thats literally what it is😂

He lives in New Jersey, so dissapointed in him

He's been pretty biased a few times which made me unsubscribe but this video is nice anyways

@@mr_petabyte Why did you say that?

@@Coneelfrancis In a few videos he seemed to be biased towards apple and kind of personally annoyed by google which made his videos feel biased and not just about the tech and it's features but way to much about what he feels like and not what's actually the case

Sadly he didn't fully inform himself before making this video. He said that he had the car in "assertive" mode but that is for FSD beta, and in the highway he had navigate on autopilot (the inferior version) enabled and the settings for that are in another place.

I noticed this too. He consistently kept it as an engaging conversation, not a single moment of silence, and all in one take. Pretty darn impressive.

@@MangalSuvarnan He knows his job well i guess -

Argh! My whole life has been a lie! I have always just assumed auto pilot worked perfectly 😮

I don’t know why I assumed that. And it sounds like I’m not alone.

"Ummm...what's it doing?" "Why is it doing that?"

Did you ever watch the movie Flight. It's a good movie.

@@adriangale I mean it sort of does, if we mean things like sticking to the flight plan during the cruise stage. If you're in an Airbus under normal law (normal, full automation) it's more the plane babysitting you than the other way around - like during the terrain escape maneuver you can do the "pedal to the metal" airplane equivalent and it will prevent the otherwise very likely stall, so pilots just do it and are saved by the automation each time, and it's a regular procedure. For example part of Air France 447 disaster was that for a while there was no full automation (due to period of missing flight parameters), and pilots were "allowed" to stall the aircraft which they ultimately did. In comparison it's certainly more other way around in an aircraft than it is in Tesla right now, not that it's perfect or completely hands-off of course.

you don't think you could talk about a car while you're driving that car?

@@Geoffrey___The key is to be engaging. The fact that you weren’t intelligent enough to see the nuance in such a basic statement proves to me that you would not be engaging at all.

@@___DRIP___ sounds like you need some confidence and a father figure. You could do worse than MBKHD. Keep gargling his nuts and maybe he'll notice you one day 🤞

@@Geoffrey___ Sounds like you need some elementary school level comprehension skills. Good luck with that Geoff

marques and supporting a transphobic power hungry maniac, name a more iconic duo

i fear for his life after the video, it shows were the studuo is and maybe his adress, too much sensitive information

​@@gledston84 he's showed it before

*embarrasing

@@alvallac2171 it's "embarrassing", actually

@@ianliew2198 poo

The are a few self driving channels out there. Whole Mars Catalog and AI DRIVR both have a lot of videos. If you want to watch less opinions and more driving then Whole Mars Catalog is better.

@@alvallac2171I am not an english native speaker, but I think "embarrassing" is correct, isn't it?

And only 2 traffic violations, or one every 10 minutes! Almost on par with an average honda civic driver

Not to be negative but literally every video I've seen on RU-vid of self driving challenges the crap out of it and puts the driver in harms way or impeding traffic. It's not a system you can get right most of the time.

@Tyler I live in a rural area in Sweden, trust me when I say that the Tesla would have no clue what to do. There are different unexpected things happening in rural areas compared to city-like conditions. Roads will all of a sudden have no markings, signs will be missing, roads will be missing from the map, some areas might even have gravel roads. I'm quite convinced that full self driving cars will not be a thing until we combine smart cars with smart roads (i.e markers in asphalt, communication between vehicles, government uploading all construction to some centralized road network server etc.). There are just too many unknowns for an ML taught car to deal with.

@@85Portar In America we have every country road mapped unless it is brand new and it gets added quickly. So rural areas it works almost flawlessly, especially one lane on each side roads. Roads are always painted, some signs missing, but not important ones.

​@@85Portar The beauty of Tesla vision is its not completely rely on navigation data, and road markings. If the sign is missing, you can also not see that. Somewhere between 2020-2021 they seriously changed how cars act on the environment rather than navigation data. In early stage of fsd beta, it couldn't be able to handle construction sites or closed roads but now it can avoid them and if it can not pass through, it can recalculate the path.

I think it was live! Super impressive

Lol, really? He's narrating and adding contextual information. Are you that bad at talking?

this is his job..

@@musguelha14 Are you that bad at kindness?

He’s been doing things like this for a very long time, he’s great at what he’s does. There’s no script

I expect more phantom braking.

Lane detection already is an issue in fog, it would be even more erratic.

The cameras all have heaters and the rain typically wipes off from the wipers and wind from the speed.

​@@isaiahlouisb2 Even mild fog in Seattle plus bad angles due to hills cause it to confuse single and double lines separating road directions. I've had issues in Magnolia/Queen Anne where many of the road lines have been rubbed off badly so they aren't fully continuous.

@@isaiahlouisb2 How do heaters help with all the visibility issues from snow, rain, fog,etc?

it makes you nervous

but i can say for highway driving it is fantastic . and now with the full street driving . it can come off of exits a lot smoother than what it use to

@@dom_z3480 I can see the progress of Autopilot and Full FSD and I think it's great that it can do so much more over the past few years.. But I wouldn't lie down or stop paying attention with it. It makes you stay on high alert

@@christianocampos158 That's why it is "FSD-Beta" right now. It *is* not finished yet, and you *must* be ready to take over at any time. So I think it should not be compared with the expectation, that it drives itself somewhere. I feel like too many people (in general) just don't know what "Beta" means, or they ignore it, because it is currently named "FSD-Beta" but everyone is just writing/saying FSD, but that's not what it is yet!

Of course there's stress involved. It takes time to improve and build trust. You can't go from 0 to 1 within a moment.

Yes, same here.

As long as you don't pay for it full price (I don't mean full price at the ticket office, I mean price what it really cost...)

@@FreedomIsNotGoingToBeFree Well don't you basically pay the full cost through taxation? Plus government spending is more than free market.

Wow😮 this is probably the best video I’ve watched this year.

Now if only the MTA could clean up all the crazies on the trains...

lmao

It’s the impatient drivers that bother me like the truck the was blowing the horn at him.

@@retro8696 Unnecessarily stopping on a roadway is dumb and can be quite dangerous as people don't expect to get to a full stop.

That effect wears down pretty quick after watching a few FSD beta videos.

There are whole channels which basically just do that

AI drivr is my recommendation if you want to see channels like that

Do you want to be a driver? Or a manager ....Cruise control and slow traffic stop/start is enough ... FSD is bullsh!t ... and will be for another 10 years of development. I'll take another look then.

Should be revised to, "It's sloppy, but it kinda works."

@@hieroglyph321 I think the op is agreeing with Marques

"It is very unreliable, and doesn't really work that well" is what I would say.

Besides the always troubling human un-predictableness this testing is done on 3rd world roads, man the US roads are bad

With current hardware, not much more progress will happen. This will remain in perpetual beta until Elon finds a new CEO and cashes out as much as possible.

@@Ashan360 Jokes aside, if this means eventually Tesla will add Lidar to their vehicles and stop pretending its terrible, it's a good thing.

@@abubakrakram6208 yeah. They need to add lidar

And people don't have that kind of patience nowadays 😂

It's gonna progress with time..

I totally agree. Sure, it’s taking way longer that he said it would, but what Elon project hasn’t? It’s still miles ahead of any other actual self driving. Even just on highways for road trips I would be happy with that. I rented a Honda with lane assist and active cruise a while back and just having that was amazing for Highway driving with young kids.

Yeah my question is what happens if the program crashes or freezes... It's not like we have not experienced that on our other devices such as pc or laptop

The point is that it's a bad idea. Not how impressive the technology is.

Now Elon has turned his attention to trying to get people killed on Twitter. Pro tip: NEVER take a job with him. Because if you ever piss him off, he'll sic his goons on you and your family.

😂 not ready to sleep just yet. Oh man I’m dying from that one!

😂

😂

And that's totally expected. Surely it'll became more widely used, evolve over time, and, eventually, kill all humankind.

True said 👍

yeah and at that point they'll be sending assassin robots that look like humans back in time to cause Judgement Day.

Almost like public transportation is a good option

the systems just have to get better, which they will do over time

And for that to happen, cars will need to be cloud devices... and that means wireless carjacking will be a concern. I'm starting to think the "busses and trains git gud" route is the more practical and sane one.

Wow, that’s a heavy fee for a software block 🥲

@@NotOctoPrpl it is some pretty insanely engineered software tho

So much anxiety watching this video 😂

Your choice is correct.

the new versions recently released are very much safer!

This is exactly what's in my mind

Indeed

Honestly, I'd love to see it try and go around my hometown, the roads are usually only 20-30 feet wide with on street parking and regular buses. Taxing to drive normally, I don't know how Autopilot would handle having to duck into gaps of parked cars every so often

The issue here is more then the car driving autopilot. Its the risks. If we have an car that can drive safely on a road for 10 miles, but does something unusual during 50 meters, a sudden break, a bad steering, anything out of the ordinary for say 1-2 seconds can lead to a car crash, injury, a unexpected family car incident. That what AI is, its steering yes, but if one little goes ascrew, you might lose a limb.

basically, if he trusted the AI, he hit those traffic cones , and drive through a toll with a cone, after those incidents we have no idea how the AI would have reacted. prob two crashes during one single 20min drive to work.

Totally priceless! I'd have been a nervous wreck... it's hard enough to know when to "nudge" a human driver with words. but to just have options to take control or trust. that's rough. Regarding this exactly: I expect it would have come to a sudden stop before hitting the single toll booth cone. and then he'd have to remove the cone, or back up. manually. Both embarrassing and dumb. And Re the line of traffic cones it was approaching without scooting over... I think it would have run some down... and then stopped. also not good. I was on the edge of my seat watching this the entire time. I know know I should never be a tester for this sort of thing... or even a student driver instructor. :D

Minus the fact he can't figure out the difference between NoA and Beta

He wasn’t even using FSD

Getting pissed off and honking, or whatever, isn't going to change a thing. The truck isn't going to move, so you just ignore and drive around, like it was a big dumb cardboard box on the road or some other inanimate object. Who cares if you lose 30 seconds of your day? Not exactly life changing.

I was thinking exactly the same. 😆

Give way and help. If you get mad and honk its only going to take longer

@@Killer99215 Yeah offer help instead, unlike this idiot's comment

Well you all three 👆are obviously saints 😂

An airline pilot myself, about to give the same comment as you just did. Autopilot is a helpful tool but planes don't simply goes from A to B in a straight line, you need to navigate (aside from climb and descend) by pilot's input. So does Tesla's Autopilot, it is acceptable on highway but I'd rather turn it off for city traffic and manually drive the car, bet that's gonna be more relaxed compared to autopilot on.

Is there any possibility AI will take over pilot job in the near future?

@@nhathoang9862 Similar thing I've heard from Train drivers. ATO tends to be very capable but every now and then it will just give up for whatever reason and as such train drivers will be sitting ready to take over (at least for those running in ATO corridors, those running with more archaic signalling are of course driving fully manually as there is nothing for the ATO to work with)

@@pessiescobar4707 Autonomous airplane, as a concept, has been around for the last decade or so. Airlines have been pitching to manufacturers to reduce the minimum pilot required to operate a passenger transport jet down to a single pilot crew (cost saving, obviously). The question is would manufacturers like Airbus or Boeing, and more importantly, would humans (regulators and passengers) feel safe for that to happen in the future? I simply can't answer that. Personally speaking, I'd rather fly with a colleague than an AI who's pretending to be my colleague.

Hey I wonder, do you manually land the plane or is also autoplot capable of landing?

*than

True thanks for the best self driving video

I was sitting on the edge of my seat the whole time:D

Lol

Yea it might be too late for me lol. I would always feel uneasy

It's me, I'm that guy.

He promised it to be FULLY finished like 6+ years ago

@@notpenguino Same

I've had it for a few months and can't ever get a half decent left turn at most intersections in my town, those disengagements are my deal breaker for being unable to use it 🥲

@@happyjohn1656 Tesla introducing additional sensors sometime in Q1 according to the leaks. So RIP everyone who just bought a $60k car + $15k "self driving" package

Not to sound vain, but perhaps you only use it to justify buying one in the first place?

When it's good, it's good. When it's not good, it's not scary; it's annoying Why are you doing that??? Fine, I'll take over. Okay, I've got you through that. Now you take over until the next time you need help. But that it can do what it can do is amazing!

@@MaxCaud I have a 2020 M3 so I have a radar and USS. Also "only" paid $8k for the FSD package, def not worth 15k 🤮 USS removal was such a stupid move.

Whose head did the nail hit?

You got stressed by a video.......hmmmmmmm

​@@oldergamer8037 oh you want to be rude huh?

That’s awesome to hear! Seems so cool

I will second this. After a week of driving, I had identified all of the potential disengagement moments or things that it did not do well and I take over then. For me, it has significantly improved my daily commute of an hour, which includes city and highway driving with a lot of traffic.

Yeah I don’t think he mentioned the tapping accelerator to tell it to go. It takes some time to get used to the quirks but you learn to live with them and predict them a bit

confirmation bias is a hell of a thing. My bet is you wouldn't put you child in the car unattended and trust the vehicle to deliver them safely across town.

@@CS30123 Well obviously not. But thats not what he said, is it? he said it makes driving super chill when you're used to its quirks, and that is very much true.

Bingo- clean and clear highways in florida and some other parts of US and it works perfectly. Stop signs? Absolutely not.

right its that last 5% of autonomous driving that will take decades to fill. 1st 90% is easy.

I95 is NOT a good highway

Not necessarily, it does better in narrow single lane roads than wide unmarked roads.

@@copse04 Busy narrow roads aren't the same as single lane roads

I love people come at the problem with an arrogance that only humans can pull off something as mundane as navigating a narrow road.

Here on German roads any type of autopilot really struggles with any type of our roads, sometimes even the autobahn, I would be very scared to have this thing drive me through a city like Munchen or Cologne LOL

@@shankhadeepshome3982european city centers are built for pedestrians, it's a lot of people behaving unpredictably

AI driver is basically an unpaid beta tester (Without company insurance if something goes south), like many tesla drivers…

@@erebostd sounds like you're suggesting this is somehow unprecedented or wrong? The choice is yours and the risks are incredibly obvious to the point they need not be spelled out

@@pottyputter05 I don’t care if people do free work, but i care that they do it on public roads and not savely. The software isn’t „there“, obviously, and people get killed or injured. Tesla isn’t paying for accidents caused by AS, and as long as that’s the case, the Test need to happen on private property.

@@erebostd You are right, there are accidents, which are caused by Humans drivers. There are 7 to 10 Times less accidents with activated Autopilot than the rest of the US Cars (Which are mostly driven by Humans). To follow your suggestion, all human drivers should drive on private roads and only Tesla Autopilot should remain on the roads. That's how you would save real lives. Not the other way round.

@@seby5962 ok you can't or won't understand my point about liability, so this is pointless. Tesla Fans arr worse than apple fanatics..

To be fair we have states the size of some European countries soooo.

@@cocoisadog while this is true, I was mostly referring to the size of the cities. In the US, while they are larger, they are not as dense, because of huge urban and suburban sprawl

​@@bobdimitrakakis8183 I guess some of the reason for the lower density is that a lot of modern America was build with cars in mind.

In Texas, you can drive for 7 hours, and still be in the same State.

I live in the province of Ontario in Canada which is so big that it has 2 time zones lol. Takes us over 21 hours to cross over into a different province. But of course, except Toronto, nothing is as densely populated as Europe here.

I find FSD works great in heavy traffic and multiple lane roads. You put it on an open country road and it has no idea what to do.

hopefully you keep letting FSD try those difficult roads, it will make valuable data for the neural network.

@@jordonmanwaring5239 Seems like that's sign of what the developers are working hardest on. This is way far away from real self-driving and NHTSA needs to be paying attention!

I really hate the complete stop at intersections when there is no other car around but it isn’t teslas fault. I remember when the car would do rolling stop but the NHTSB put a stop to that

That's where I would be driving. The 'main' road on my way to and from work is a very narrow two lane that's a short cut for semi's getting to industrial parks on either end. I't posted 45 everyone drives 55, corn fields on each side with patches of wooded areas very close to the road. No shoulder at all. If it's raining or snowing it scares me how close on coming traffic is to the center line. Oh, potholes, lot's of them, Do you think it could handle that situation without intervention or non stop butt puckering?

He has great insights and is a natural speaker.

Yea, this video was mainly showing driving in 'Navigate-on-Autopilot'. As soon as you go on a highway it switches from Full-Self-Driving Beta to Navigate-on-Autopilot. You can identify Navigate-on-Autopilot by the road markings that are not flickering, for those wondering.

For the record, you can turn off the lane change confirmation even for NoA

@@orcslayer900 True, but still on the old stack the blinker will stay on for like 4 seconds before actually initiating the lane change, annoying. Single stack soon Copium

@@LuiPau I thought the most recent update was going to unify the stacks?

@@unlimitedbagels nah stuff like this will eventually be flawless, technology like that won’t glitch like a pc game when it’s fully functional . They have robots arms that preform surgery so efficiently it reduces the recovery time of the patient , a human couldn’t be as precise no matter what and those things don’t glitch .

Came here to say the same thing.

Ehhh no. not really the only issue with other drives who are driving them selves is when they do something critically wrong then that could cause a self driving car to get confused. However even those events can be countered as the car will soon be able to make its own decisions based on the type of road and how drivers are driving. This will lead to a safer experience and the car will be able to handle complex fast moving events which a typical person could get overloaded with.

The cars like what do i DOOO

Well to answer your question real quick. In heavy rain the autopilot shuts off and gives you a warning saying inclement weather does not allow for FSD.

Doesn't sound like full self driving....

@@DetlefEick Hence FSD Beta. It's improving rapidly through real world testing

@@DetlefEick it’s a beta…

Yes exactly two cameras integrated at the end of the headlight assembly, one pointing right and one pointing left would help the system so much! Elon take notes!

Somehow humans can do all this creeping for visibility while their head is positioned further behind blinker cameras. I think it has to do more with the car knowing where to stop for most visibility while not stopping too far so I'd say it's possible to do with the current camera setup.

I'm not sure that's true. Humans are able to see and make a good judgement even when sitting inside the car, cameras on the front should have even better visibility. I think it's just (understandably) over cautious and takes an approach "move slowly until clear" rather than "move until it's not clear".

@@arturpotyraa8397 given that it's a safety critical system I would guess the engineers deliberately program it to stop further back and creep slower just to ensure the safety of the passengers, better 'slow' than sorry I guess

Yes, ever yvehicle needs at least four full-hd lidar drones on each corner, 10 meters ahead of the car and one on top checking for attacking pigeons from above.

There are sooooo many countless FSD videos showing its improvements over the last 2 years 😜 5:25 PM 12/23/2022

I came here to say the same, especially since he mentioned that Tesla is camera only. Night time driving is where this will bring best benefits for me as a driver.

@@happyjohn1656 would you have a link to a good video showing these improvements? Rather than me finding any silly video...

@@SebastianSpiess Look at Dirty Tesla, Chuck Cook, and AI Driver's videos, they do a pretty decent job! I've had beta for a few months now and can confirm cameras still can't see in the dark though 😅 - FSD constantly visualizes vehicles and pedestrians that aren't there and just won't move until you intervene. :( 4:53 PM 12/27/2022

I have used basic auto pilot many times while pouring rain during night time. Not only did it see better than me (rendered lane lines further than I could see), but I felt so much safer having it activated so I could focus more on emergency situations rather than focusing on staying in the lane.

I haven’t been seeing it’s progress for very long, how much has it improved in the past few years.

10 years, 300,000 cars, over 40,000,000 mile, and it still can't pass the driver test. How long did it take you to pass?

@@Google_Does_Evil_Nowfsd beta is 1 year old lol nice try

There are some things the AI is good at, but the system can’t replace the real time reactions of a human driver. Perhaps it never will.

When driving in the suburbs I feel orders of magnitude less stress when letting FSD drive than driving in one of the largest cities in America. The density of the city increases the possible bogeys that the FSD computer has to navigate around. Even some humans hate driving in a dense city.

Totally agree. I'm a long time New York area Tesla driver and it's way more sketchy to use autopilot in NY/NJ than on middle of nowhere highways.

@@altyus2229 you can imagine how hard it would be for it to work in europe, very tight roads

In NY if I didn't see construction in a 4 min drive I would think something is wrong.

@@dmnk8 1 mile = 1 hour

Have you watched the videos about the uber robotaxis getting stuck in exactly the city you’re talking about?

Also thank god for him interfering when the Tesla was going to stutter while it thinks. Being unpredictable (like randomly stopping or slowing down in the wrong place) could cause issues downstream of the Tesla even if the Tesla doesnt get in an accident someone else will.

Looks like the AI isn't comfortable with doing Lyft either, it demands a proper driver to have eyes looking out the windshield, and hands within reach of the wheel, at all times!

@@jaad9848 Safe driving is predictable driving. I don't care if it's against the law or not following traffic rules to the tee. Humans understand predictable driving. This thing does not. Hard pass.

@@cykeok3525 that should be law for now, its not predictable enough yet

@@kingofnara Agreed.

You have camera view in every new modern car that has good cruise control. The problem is that Elon still claims that this is FDS, but it is not and will not be, ever (which is completely OK, if you call it right name) Further training of the neural network with this hardware only gives diminishing returns, and this can be seen in every update. Additional hardware is required.

@@goranjosic Can existing Tesla cars be equipped with the additional (future) hardware or its most likely a "buy new get new" type of mentality here?