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Tesla Solar Roof | 1-Year Review 

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You've probably heard a thing or two about Tesla and their energy division. Do they even really install solar? If so, it would probably never pay itself off in savings!
Well, we've been living with the Solar Roof V3 and Powerwall 2.0 for an entire year, and are looking forward to sharing our findings.
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@wolflightcapital3365
@wolflightcapital3365 Год назад
I work for a solar/battery installer. If you really paid ~30k for the entire system (which I doubt) you got a hell of a deal.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
After rebates/ and insurance, but yeah it was a good deal!
@ryangreene1527
@ryangreene1527 Год назад
facts he did
@amcadam26
@amcadam26 Год назад
Sitting the UK here where a typical solar with battery system costs about $15k. Cause we use a lot less power though as we don't have air con.
@philmaness5983
@philmaness5983 Год назад
@@ShortVersion1 so adding $16K for the roof and the 26% Federal rebate puts the up-front cost at more like $60K, slightly over?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
@@philmaness5983 yeah a bit over. It gets complicated because Tesla also sent a big check and comped one of the batteries. Plus insurance payment and a couple thousand in local incentives for battery and solar. The part that was applicable to federal credit was roughly 61k
@LukePighetti
@LukePighetti Год назад
In my book anything with an ROI less than 10 years is a no-brainer. Well done, thanks for the walkthrough.
@skepticalmechanic
@skepticalmechanic 9 месяцев назад
Unless your in your 70’s like me..
@woodstoney
@woodstoney 11 месяцев назад
I have heard that the people at Tesla are first rate folks to work with and their installers are equally as professional supporting a stellar product! Thanks for the honest review!
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely! It was very impressive how they had a team that large, showing up and busting it every day. They even left me the hardhat!
@EdwardFielding
@EdwardFielding Год назад
I think it's funny how no one asks about R.O.I. for other things like - a traditional furnace, big gas-guzzling pickup, RV, boat, jet ski, traditional roof, house painting, kitchen remodel etc. Solar is one of the few things you can buy that has a positive R.O.I. at some point. And right away gives you more control over your monthly costs.
@MrGatya2
@MrGatya2 Год назад
You do cost of operation calculations for those appliances, not ROI. In solar's case you do ROI, because it is basically a service substitution with an upfront investment. You can go on with your life, heat your house and power your computer with or without solar, the difference is you produce it yourself or buy it from a producer. Thats why you do ROI on solar, but not on any of those things you mentioned.
@amentco8445
@amentco8445 Год назад
@@MrGatya2 And i don't really know when you'd get an ROI in most cases, solar can be more expensive than the power returned to you depending on where you are. It matters more if power independence is what you desire. But solar can require a lot of maintenance if you're in an area with particularly rough weather, and the electronics themselves can still fail.
@The_Holy_Moly
@The_Holy_Moly 11 месяцев назад
Totally getting this. My dad asked the question of how ugly and obvious large solar farms and wind mills are. Dude, we live in Bakersfield CA, it's fucking mad max of pump jacks, pipe lines and refineries out here! So interesting how ppl get used to seeing/thinking one way and not seeing reality lol
@mobilejoe87
@mobilejoe87 9 месяцев назад
Solar only really purpose is to save you money over using the power company. As far as trucks go you can't pretend you bought a bar of gold that does absolutely nothing. If that truck took you to work everyday for 20years I'd say regardless of what you payed it was a good investment. That truck allowed you to earn 20 years wages! The other nonsense you mention are all toys. different category.
@michaelleblanc2097
@michaelleblanc2097 Год назад
Amazing! You did your homework, workedout if it was worth it, and in the end it was. But better yet, you shared your experience with others. Please make a video in another year, I would love to see how everything is going.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
You know it! Thank you! The biggest change will be the new export from battery feature and our addition of infrared heating panels.
@chrvids5846
@chrvids5846 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely outstanding summary. From beginning to end, you very logically explained this in layman's terms and answered every question I have ever had about Tesla's solar roof. Final question.....have you ever had to ask any of the contractors/installers, or Tesla to come back for any reason, positive or negative? Again, an outstanding job!
@eddevoe2519
@eddevoe2519 Год назад
My neighbor paid $16k for a new asphalt roof. He thought I paid too much until I asked how long before his asphalt roof pays for itself. In twenty years he will have to replace his. My roof will have another 50 years and will be paying me. The gap below the tiles is vented and makes a thermal barrier and keeps roof and tiles cool, lowers cooling cost in summer. You can hear the air move. Looks great to.
@steveonthebeach2339
@steveonthebeach2339 Год назад
Enjoyed the video, you covered a lot of questions and concerns 👍 Do you have an opinion about the way the shingles are clipped onto the roof for a home in a hurricane prone area? Any better or any worse than an asphalt shingle roof in a strong wind situation? Thanks again for taking the time to make the video .
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
I'd have to imagine the shingles are better than asphalt for hurricane winds, since they test solar to a higher degree because of the electricity rules apparently. Recently saw someone who went through that last FL hurricane with solar roof and it held up great, powerwalls we're even submerged in water! That's something I never considered at all, but would've assumed catastrophic... Supposedly they held up! Worth looking into. Thank you!
@steveonthebeach2339
@steveonthebeach2339 Год назад
Thank you for the info🙏
@ellisjk1409
@ellisjk1409 Год назад
@@ShortVersion1 Did the roofs on the houses that were completely destroyed also survive? Roofs are not designed to withstand hurricane force winds, not cat 4 or 5 anyway.
@ecospider5
@ecospider5 Год назад
I just subscribed. Good luck with the channel. Your first video was great information keep it up.
@livingon2wheels
@livingon2wheels Год назад
Great video - I think it's fair to consider the investment as the delta above what the asphalt roof would cost.
@evil17
@evil17 Год назад
Great vid & review of ur gnarly Tesla solar roof install and setup. I think u covered a lot in this fairly. The ROI can probly be calculated in with resale value of the house capital also of course, which is sure to increase it value annually in that regard. I think it looks great and wish u the best, it would be good to get more updates down the track on how it is all surviving. Cheers
@callum_boss
@callum_boss Год назад
As illogical as it sounds, it's generally said that solar doesn't tend to increase resale value. People consider it an added bonus to buy a house with solar installed, but just don't pay extra. Solar is a bad investment if you don't remain in a house until the '10' years payback point, but should be an easy choice if you can afford it and are going to be there long enough to recoup.
@mehdishirazi3
@mehdishirazi3 Год назад
It's not just about physical durability it's about the degrading photonic cells, and from what I understand, it's about 25 years for the type twos. The only issue I see is that power companies need customers to be able to maintain the grid, so they have been fighting and refusing to allow people to install these. I have heard of far more rejections than installations.
@GudieveNing
@GudieveNing 9 месяцев назад
The power companies can FO. No one has the right to force a free human to spend money on anything. A very good reason to build your own home off grid.
@jamesg6071
@jamesg6071 Год назад
Really wish we could of got such a great deal on solar roof. When we looked at it Tesla quoted us 90k dollars. Asphalt was 18k just didn’t make sense for us but glad it did for you
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Yeah, there are so many factors. Now I'm always looking at roofs to see how many different angles and planes they have. One has to imagine square footage is a big one too. Thanks!
@pucmahone3893
@pucmahone3893 Год назад
Excellent! Thanks for that! Very informative!
@samclark3879
@samclark3879 Год назад
Thanks for this. A very detailed, informative, and well produced video.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Thank you!
@chulkjoung5148
@chulkjoung5148 Год назад
Nice Ad Good for T. Watched whole vid. Great review. Super.
@stevemcfarland4661
@stevemcfarland4661 Год назад
Wow this house uses a lot of electricity. Great informative video
@JohnScaglione
@JohnScaglione Год назад
Thanks! Good job explaining it. I'm glad you had a posiive experience.
@asktoddmiller
@asktoddmiller Год назад
Very nice video. I am curious ... are the non-active roof panels also glass or are they metal?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
They do have some metal ones that I've seen used in special instances, but most are also ceramic.
@TomokoAbe_
@TomokoAbe_ Год назад
You have to periodically clean them too, and I do not know if hurricane-strength winds can catch the panels and rip your roof off. Which also means you have to replace your roof before getting those panels.
@dddpetarddd
@dddpetarddd Год назад
very good video. really. enjoyed every second of it
@srendahl14
@srendahl14 Год назад
Thank you very much for a factual and sober review on your experiences with solar cells. I especially admire your calm, sober and clear narrative without giddiness and goofs (except for your little stunt on the roof at the beginning). Here you get sober and useful information in contrast to the many catchpenny or clipbate shows that abound on RU-vid.
@troywarren-sb4fe
@troywarren-sb4fe 9 месяцев назад
So much sobriety going on in your review of his review. Crazy how sober his sobriety is. Sound like the VPOTUS.
@kimjay2697
@kimjay2697 Год назад
What is the desk and treadmill you have? TY! Great vid!
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Thank you! We made the desk, and the treadmill is called "urevo" it was on Amazon.
@daniDEE_tv
@daniDEE_tv 10 месяцев назад
very informative.... awsome review
@RT-mv7df
@RT-mv7df 9 месяцев назад
The big concern will be how well the plastic clips will hold up. Plastic generally doesn't do well with lots of extreme heat/cold cycles. Will become brittle over the years. Hopefully the Tesla engineers didn't overlook that aspect & are using an advanced formulated plastic material that doesn't degrade from the thermal stresses.
@EdwardFielding
@EdwardFielding Год назад
Power outage - without battery backup the panels shut off to protect linemen. But with battery storage, during a power outage, dependent on the weather, the batteries can recharge the next day.
@NeW758
@NeW758 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for the information !!
@scottkhemthong95
@scottkhemthong95 Год назад
Great presentation, thank you. What is the electrical cost per kWh in your situation. I live in Washington city, Utah a,d the electricity cost is only 6.6 cents per kWh and it seems difficult to justify the ROI. What do you think?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
We went between 7-24 cent/kWh instantaneous, but our yearly average cost was just over 10cent/kWh. Now it's technically negative cost over the year so hard to say. I think in the short-term prices from utility will rise, but the piece of mind of having your own generation is something I'd always recommend! Thanks!
@TurtleWaxed
@TurtleWaxed Год назад
If you install soft-start units on A/C system, fridgerators, freezers and other big high start current devices it can take the strain off your inverter and batteries! I think they are about $200-300.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
That is a great tip! Fortunately we have all very efficient systems, we typically operate well within the headroom. When Tesla does their initial site-inspection, they check to see if you'll need any soft starters.
@TurtleWaxed
@TurtleWaxed Год назад
Soft starters also increase the life span of your motors.
@inwiththenew414
@inwiththenew414 7 месяцев назад
If the panels are only held in place by clips (😳), how well would the roof hold up in hurricane/tornado prone areas? Especially with the air gap underneath. And can you still have skylight protrusions with this system in place?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 7 месяцев назад
Idk about skylights, I'd assume yes. They've held up well for people in Florida as far as I know, the clips are very robust. They actually use similar clips on the starlink satellites!
@RVLIVINGLIFE
@RVLIVINGLIFE Год назад
Bro, you only have 200 subs, you should have 200,000. Great video and really well presented! We had 10 kw of solar on our last house and it paid for our annual electricity costs each year. Our ROI was about 8-9 years.
@bsm2001yt
@bsm2001yt Год назад
Whats your ROI if the government was not funding a portion of it?? Thats the true ROI - not the taxpayer footing rebates.
@NaptownNerf
@NaptownNerf Год назад
Curious how loud the roof is compared to an asphalt roof when raining?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
We actually just had an epic rain (month's worth in three days) and I remarked that it must be quieter. Hard to tell because it doesn't rain here often, and our last place had metal roof which was very loud.
@ericrondeau3425
@ericrondeau3425 Год назад
Great video. What is the square footage of your house? We were told to look at 35.00 to 45.00 per square foot. Is that correct?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
According to google maps measuring, it's just under 2,000 square feet. I never really knew because it includes our garage, and it's a split-level. But 2,000 sounds about right. For us, before any incentives it was that much, but less than half after incentives. You should just put your address into Tesla's website for a direct quote. Thanks!
@imscanon
@imscanon Год назад
Question: You showed a photo of snow on the roof so I hope you can answer. How is it working through snow on the roof? That's my worry about roof solar as I live in Michigan and there could be snow on the roof for months with no way to clear it off so I've always wanted to know how that works with roof solar. I figured I'd need to set up an array on the ground where I could get to it and brush it off after a snow else I'd have no working solar most of the winter with it on the roof. Can you tell me how it's working for you? Thank you. Lastly, I saw a vid that there is a way that you can set it up to use your batteries first before pulling from the grid and charging the batteries first before power is sold to the grid. That way if the power goes out, you're still good to go for as long as the power is out, which is not always the case when it's connected to the grid, so have you looked into setting it up that way?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
The solar roof sheds snow much faster than normal asphalt roofs or other solar panels. It avalanches off, usually the day after it falls but it depends on the wetness of it. I'd love ground array, more because we could point it south and adjust it for the seasons for optimal performance. Most off-grid panels are ground mounted because they need all the juice they can get. We got grid-battery function added about a month after I posted this. It's made a dramatic improvement on how much money the system makes/saves us, especially in Winter where we didn't get "enough" solar to cover all our usage. You can set all the parameters to charge when you want and keep them for backup at a certain percentage. We've have very few grid outages, so I drain the batteries to 10% every evening during peak, and then partially charge from the grid thru the night. The system can predict the next day's solar and not fill them entirely off grid based on the next day's sun. Thanks! Good luck!
@imscanon
@imscanon Год назад
@@ShortVersion1 Interesting. Good to know! Thanks so much for answering!
@carloscruz7317
@carloscruz7317 Год назад
how much of it was subsidized? what is the full price with out subsidies?
@matthewprather7386
@matthewprather7386 Год назад
How much does snow stay on the roof? How does it affect output? Great report!
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Thank you, yeah the snow stays on usually only a few hours the day it falls. Hard to say it affects output at all, because snowy days have so much overcast. If anything these shed snow much faster than other roofs and most solar panels I've seen!
@tommytorres
@tommytorres Год назад
When talking about return on investment, I find it interesting that no one ever mentions the value of the system itself. I mean, ten years down the line, you sell your house, the solar roof and the batteries adds its value to the house, doesn't it? If I were to buy a house with a solar roof and batteries already installed, I would certainly pay a premium for that.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
For real, some people do get that, but it's not common. Someone will add new countertops, etc. and never feel the need to justify price or investment. Lately I point out expensive cars as an example of massive investment hardly ever talked about in ROI. Or even pizza, nobody will care if you buy more pizza than you eat, because surely you just like pizza enough to have leftovers. However, you COULD have just powered yourself off rice and beans... waste of money to eat pizza lol
@sambrusco672
@sambrusco672 Год назад
Tommy Torres is absolutely correct! If you make a graph with the amount of savings vs traditional electricity over 25 years, in this case, you are looking at least $100,000 difference COST OF OWNERSHIP vs a comparable non-solar house. And that’s IF the utility only goes up by 4% per year. Except where hydro produces the electricity, it will probably be closer to 10% per year. My ready response to question of ROI is “What’s your return on investment from the electric company now?” [SPOILER ALERT: it’s 0.0% - you are never going to see that money again; it’s gone! The other thing to consider is that the ONLY reason fossil fuel generated electricity is so LOW (yes, low), is that the consumers pay absolutely nothing for dumping the waste around the world. Just because carbon dioxide is invisible doesn’t mean it’s harmless. We’re putting our CONVENIENCE laziness on future generations to clean up the mess we created since 1973. The first OPEC oil embargo should have been the wake-up call for the US, instead MOST People CONTINUE to hit snooze.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
@@sambrusco672 haha absolutely man don't even get me started! The subsidizing of petroleum has doomed so many millions of IQ points to lead poisoning. Another one that kills me, if we *assume* tile roof lasts longer than asphalt (safe assumption, regardless of energy production), than how much would another disposable roof cost in ~20 years with inflation? Probably more than a solar roof today. Alas, people love buying other people's oil, oh well! Thank you!!
@jameskitzmann6268
@jameskitzmann6268 Год назад
The market wants you to pay off the system or deduct it from the sale price of the house.
@timhardman4764
@timhardman4764 Год назад
@@jameskitzmann6268 True, so get a loan and pay it off just before you list your house for sale and then include the value of the system when pricing your home for sale.You'll have two months of interest on the short term loan or credit card that will be minimal. It's definitely a financial challenge for even a middle class family to have the cash up front for the system. If a household made a savings plan with sacrifices on lifestyle and everyone pitched in for 2 or 3 years, I think it's possible to save the $30k to have to buy the system knowing it will financially benefit (investment) your family in the long run as well as benefiting the health of the planet, your kids and grandkids.
@AmauryJacquot
@AmauryJacquot Год назад
did you get some subsidies for installing the solar system ?
@admirableawesome2317
@admirableawesome2317 Год назад
very awesome video. very informative!
@scrubbasher
@scrubbasher Год назад
Great video for such a small channel.
@bigjohnson7415
@bigjohnson7415 Год назад
How many square feet is your house? The roof replacement at least in Texas, is mostly covered by insurance when they're replaced.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Hard to say because of how everyone counts it by different measures, and the garage was included, but I believe ~2200 sqft. Yeah for sure same here, they would've covered almost all of an asphalt roof
@Orielzolrak
@Orielzolrak Год назад
Hi Thans for you information How long do solar panels last? I know they should be changed but I don't know the Tesla datathanks for information!
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
At least 25 years, thanks!
@christhopherlasher2828
@christhopherlasher2828 Год назад
Do they come with roof heating to get rid of the snow....how often do you clean the roof for optimum efficiency and can you tell by monitoring something that you're roof needs cleaning like a percentage per panel Energy Efficiency. Next question how do you know if a roof panel stops working. And if something was to go wrong with the power wall what kind of warranty was Tesla offering
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Melting snow wouldn't be worth the energy it takes, because you wouldn't capture that much on a snowy typical day. I don't clean roof, it's not the best use of time/resources maybe I would after a wild fire or something. Haze from pollution seems to be more of a problem for output than dirty tiles. I think if tile stopped working it would put the whole string out of production and you could tell by significant drop in production. The solar roof warranty is 25 years, the batteries are 10. Thanks!
@fllev4121
@fllev4121 Год назад
Great stuff! Thank you.
@davethenurse1031
@davethenurse1031 2 месяца назад
Sorry if I misunderstood but then you pay sometimes for the electric bill plus the solar panel? 2 bills? Correct me if Im wrong. Im thinking of getting them
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 2 месяца назад
So people have those kinds of arrangements if they lease solar panels or finance, and then on months the solar wouldn't produce enough to cover their bills they might have two. Ours were bought outright so we only have the utility bill. Except our utility bill also has water and sewage on it, but those I've removed for data points.
@jenskrarup4921
@jenskrarup4921 Год назад
What part of the country are you located? Wondering if in South Florida it would be a different scenario with more summer, less winter.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
I'm in Northern Colorado, but yes absolutely Florida would be great. One of the less talked about faults of solar is that it drops output at higher temperatures. So in FL, when you have sunny but chiller Winter, I've seen screenshots of astounding production numbers.
@leononymous2562
@leononymous2562 Год назад
Excellent video!
@ecospider5
@ecospider5 Год назад
Most power outages caused by excess usage is because of air conditioning when the temperature goes above 100 degrees. Everyone that puts solar on their roof reduces the chance of that happening. This is because on those days you are producing way more electricity than you need and your excess electricity is powering your neighbors AC. Which greatly reduces the strain on the local substation. When more than 50% of the houses get solar there starts having the possibility of pushing electricity backwards through the substation. I do not know if that can cause problems with some substations.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Good point! We noticed when there is an AC day, we have a bunch of solar, like you said. Hopefully batteries, both personal and utility, will help. Thank you!
@lowellcrabb151
@lowellcrabb151 Год назад
I started looking at solar here in AZ a year ago and quickly decided to go with Tesla Powerwalls so that if the grid went down, I'd still have power. My neighbor has no batteries so if the grid goes down, he is also out of power. I went with solar panels above a tile roof and that went up in Feb. The Powerwalls went in shortly after that. Then the waiting for the power company to get around to approve the complete install. That took 2 more months to occur. How far do you pull you batteries down before you switch back to grid power?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
That two month wait would've been painful. Batteries will be nice with AZ heat and AC. I've got the reserve set to 20% but it doesn't usually get that low. Only when it's discharging into the grid on schedule.
@lowellcrabb151
@lowellcrabb151 Год назад
@@ShortVersion1 Thanks
@sambrusco672
@sambrusco672 Год назад
The people who ask about ROI, assume there is zero resale value to the system. WRONG!! You just need to laminate a few utility bills, and put them on the dining room table, when buyers look at your house. If you also make a graph with the amount of savings vs traditional electricity over 25 years, in this case, you are looking at least $100,000 difference COST OF OWNERSHIP vs a comparable non-solar house. And that’s IF the utility only goes up by 4% per year. Except where hydro produces the electricity, it will probably be closer to 10% per year. My ready response to question of ROI is “What’s your return on investment from the electric company now?” [SPOILER ALERT: it’s 0.0% - you are never going to see that money again; it’s gone!] The other thing to consider is that the ONLY reason fossil fuel generated electricity is so LOW (yes, low), is that the consumers pay absolutely nothing for dumping the waste around the world. Just because carbon dioxide is invisible doesn’t mean it’s harmless. We’re putting our CONVENIENCE laziness on future generations to clean up the mess we created since 1973. The first OPEC oil embargo should have been the wake-up call for the US, instead MOST People CONTINUE to hit snooze.
@idarekorval8077
@idarekorval8077 Год назад
Have you considered getting a SPAN junction box? Really allows for tracking power used per circuit and you can even set priorities if on battery only.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
I have, we definitely are past the point of needing to ration energy, because the cost is so low for us now. SPAN would be great for new builds, however it's diminishing returns in terms of data for us now. I'd love to know per circuit, but I'm pestering Tesla to add that functionality with some sort of pattern recognition software on the whole house. It doesn't need to be 100% accurate, because we already have a really good idea of what uses what. For instance, car used
@Bobby_Chingas
@Bobby_Chingas 11 месяцев назад
@@ShortVersion1 The ROI on a SPAN panel is not worth it in your case or pretty much anyone with Tesla solar & batteries like myself, SPAN @ $4,500.00 just to purchase not including installation is a deal breaker for me.
@kipplockwood1368
@kipplockwood1368 Год назад
Because of the durability of the shingles, do you get a break from your insurance? That should add into your return as well, right?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Nope, maybe some day that would be sweet!
@invpzg
@invpzg Год назад
I think you double counted the cost of a normal roof when working out your ROI as you'd already deducted the insurance money from your cost. So your ROI will be about 20 yrs, probably less with electricity price rises outpacing time value of cash, but you'll most likely have to replace the inverters before then and maybe your batteries too putting you around breakeven over the the life of the system. At least you won't have to worry about electricity price hikes.
@paulharling7657
@paulharling7657 Год назад
I agree. Most people won't have insurance money and this guy is clearly rich compared to most of the planet so it really doesn't make sense for tax payers to give him tens of thousands. The energy costs of everyone else is taxed to raise the money to give to his family.
@Paul-ng4jx
@Paul-ng4jx Год назад
Some people can never be police. They gotta complain about everything, especially Tesla, so many people are being paid off to run their mouth is about Tesla from all the other big companies that are threatened by them.
@beautyandthesimp
@beautyandthesimp Год назад
My problem is the old growatt grid tie inverter requires 220 volt AC to work. It will not operate if itbis over or below 220 volt AC. Need stabilizer trafo
@chidorirasenganz
@chidorirasenganz Год назад
The batteries will be fine
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000
U ever heard about solar panels?
@jetmartin9501
@jetmartin9501 Год назад
Great video....Curious...so why was your insurance company offering to pay YOU to have a new roof installed?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
The old one was 20+ years old and had some damage. Thanks!
@jetmartin9501
@jetmartin9501 Год назад
@@ShortVersion1 Thx...I'm assuming it was damaged in a storm so the money was in response to an insurance claim for damage that you filed.
@RyanScanlan101
@RyanScanlan101 Год назад
I'm only 3 minutes in so far (but watching) and will finish the video. I've actually had my roof installed since early July 2021. I've had PTO (permission to turn on) for 0 of the so far 16 months. The roof is installed and gorgeous (and working!) but I don't yet have the meter to measure what I put back to the grid. So I'm not officially operating. It sucks. But yes it's also generated a lot of talk, and conversations with neighbors. From my perspective this is completely on my utility (which is hot garbage, and the reason SE Pennsylvania has 0 superchargers).
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Oh no dude that's way too long to wait! My sympathies. At least you can maybe just turn it on to self-powered mode and you won't export as long as it's Winter? Might be worth a shot. Thanks for the comment!
@cryptoskywalker1714
@cryptoskywalker1714 Год назад
Am I reading this right? 120k views, but only 334 Subscribers? If so, keep up the good work. Those Subs will pick up.
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN Год назад
Are you paying more monthly for the solar roof that you did for the electricity and gas it is offsetting?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
No it was paid in full. Since recording video, batteries gained ability to sell back to grid. Don't want to assume how much that will add in terms of money, but it's been earning $4 more a day the last few days.
@cactusfields
@cactusfields Год назад
Great and thorough review. Thank you. I was just a little concerned at the beginning that you were going to slide off the roof screaming and get hurt.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
I picked the lowest roof plane over the softest ground! Just in case! Thank you
@richardallenpeers480
@richardallenpeers480 Год назад
Me too !!!👍🤭👍
@irfanwaseh
@irfanwaseh 10 месяцев назад
I had it installed on my roof it is more expensive as normal solar but benefits of maintenance free roof is the best option
@Dayta
@Dayta Год назад
just a perfect video ... what else is there to tell .. oh .. maybe ... how about .. thank you :)
@fabrad72
@fabrad72 Год назад
What is the maintenance like? Do you have to do anything to keep the solar roof performing optimally
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
We don't do anything at all, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to have the trees on our west side cut back or removed, because they shade it all afternoon. Other than removing or trimming trees, I suspect the haze from pollution really impacts the output for a lot of the year, and some day hope that gets better. No direct maintenance though!
@claybair4904
@claybair4904 Год назад
Well the roof can not be covered with leaves like mine . I would have to clean the roof an awful lot , or cut down a lot of trees . And I am not cutting 100 foot tall trees to keep my roof clean , no solar for me .
@aliciaalfonso5486
@aliciaalfonso5486 Год назад
@@claybair4904 wind? EZgro?
@sambrusco672
@sambrusco672 Год назад
I have done absolutely nothing in 4 years. If leaves get stuck to my panels I might use a hose. Snow falls right off my roof because the panels are glass.
@arminius301
@arminius301 Год назад
Sounds like you ended up getting an absolutely smoking deal on your Tesla roof, bless you and your family! It not only damn near make you independent from the energy company it also added the novelty wow factor of the Tesla name associated with your house when you put it on the market, cant' beat that! Thanks for making and posting this well presented video!
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Thank you brother it's been a blast!
@carloscruz7317
@carloscruz7317 Год назад
real estate guy here that adds nothing to your house.
@gregbailey45
@gregbailey45 Год назад
@@carloscruz7317 depends who wants it.
@TroySavary
@TroySavary Год назад
It might add value to Musk sycophants. Otherwise, having Tesla associated with your house add nothing.
@Meatball2022
@Meatball2022 Год назад
@@TroySavary having a solar roof absolutely adds something. Tesla or not.
@Sentinel3D
@Sentinel3D Год назад
For the return on investment on the Asphalt roof, that would have just been way less, since a regular roof is just an outlay.I'm interested to know if you're driving your Leaf for free now.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
The other week I tallied up how much we charged all year, 654 kWh, and multiplied it by our effective price per kWh, $0.003. So all year it was like we paid $1.96 to charge! Thanks
@toddashton9696
@toddashton9696 Год назад
Great video. Where in the country do you live?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Northern Colorado! Thanks!
@jakubkrcma
@jakubkrcma Год назад
What is the maximum power your roof could be producing if ALL tiles were solar?
@Meatball2022
@Meatball2022 Год назад
It doesn’t make sense to do that. A large part of every roof faces away from the sun.
@jakubkrcma
@jakubkrcma Год назад
@@Meatball2022 In any case, having all tiles solar would produce at least a little more power than having just some tiles solar. I am interested in the difference.
@delani447
@delani447 Год назад
How does it work with temperatures below 0Cin winter. Have you experienced snow and how does this affect the roof and the amount of power it prpduces plus what is the upkeep of the roof looking then?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
When it's that cold out, it's usually because there is very little solar energy to be collected. The batteries work well in the cold, and during snow, especially if charged from grid in "Storm Watch" mode. When it snows, the roof doesn't hold that much for long and it all comes avalanching down usually a couple hours after the sun comes up. We don't really expect any solar on snow days, but the system still helps out.
@catelynh1020
@catelynh1020 Год назад
Related to colder weather, but what about hail? We get hail on the regular here and at least twice a year that means visible damage to cars and houses/roofs.
@SinskariBoi3366
@SinskariBoi3366 9 месяцев назад
Everyone should install it, it’s maintenance and care will make the owner disciplined
@CloudEconomicsUS
@CloudEconomicsUS Год назад
Wow, had to put you on 2x playback, amazing how slowly you speak
@jaimeim18
@jaimeim18 Год назад
Did I miss where are you from? From Arizona here thinking about going solar
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Colorado! You should!
@stevemulcahy5014
@stevemulcahy5014 Год назад
That first shot would've been fine with just a voice over and didn't need you to nearly die! But the rest of the video was great and really useful. Annoyingly Tesla isn't in our area yet, because I'd love to get a solar roof when it's time to replace the current roof. Apparently our area doesn't allow battery storage either right now, which is the bigger dealbreaker when it comes to getting any solar for me.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Thank you haha One thing I'd recommend is to have an electrician install a transfer switch with generator hook-up, then use a solar generator battery. You could hook it up without your city/utility permission. You just have to decide which circuit of your house best fit the envelope of the generator. For instance, you could put all the "small" stuff on it, but then leave the heavy duty appliances connected to the grid for now. Two-bit Davinci has his office set up with a system like that.
@WHYNOTDOTTV
@WHYNOTDOTTV Год назад
mentioning the cost of asphalt shingles roof and subtracting it from the cost of the solar system is a key. Based on your experience, and factoring the delay in getting the permission, the time to contact Tesla would be 2 years before needing to replace the roof. (correct me if I am wrong).
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
That would be wise! I don't know exactly how far in advance insurance told us to get a new roof, but we did need an extension past a year. 👍🏻 Thanks
@welderfixer
@welderfixer Год назад
Besides not having the cost of the shingle roof let's not forget the cost saved by not installing a stand-by generator that burns natural or propane gas. So, to me, this family got a free roof with long term electric bill saving benefits.
@ellisjk1409
@ellisjk1409 Год назад
Except us much poorer tax payers had to foot half the bill; nothings free. And then there's the environmental cost of mining the rare earth minerals and then disposing of them. Until people start buying these solar systems without my help, they are a drag on the entire economy.
@K0sm1cKid
@K0sm1cKid Год назад
@@ellisjk1409 Fair point. Although I'd say any incentives the government gives it's worth taking advantage of. Principles won't make policymakers stop, so you can reap rewards from their stupidity. I can't fault anyone for that. Although the "only people who aren't poor can benefit" puts a real damper in any sort of savior complex that any Tesla customers might have. The environmental factors are hilarious, you are spot on that manufacturing more stuff is definitely not environmentally friendly. Recycling is environmentally friendly, not incentivizing more consumerism. Manufacturing is the worst for the environment as far as energy is concerned.
@chasemoore941
@chasemoore941 Год назад
'As far as initial "offset" estimated by Tesla compared to the actual offset and kWh rating of the system compared to actual production, how ACCURATE were the estimates or ratings? We have a final design pending and currently have been presented a 20 kWh system to off set our usage by 64%. Not the numbers we were hoping for and they seem a bit conservative compared to my calculations.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
The design estimate is definitely conservative, the roof produced more. That being said, they added extra tiles during install from what our design estimate said. It was also a cloudy summer compared to past ones. 20 kw is a ton of solar. Personally I'd try to drop usage before adding production at that point. Thanks!
@chasemoore941
@chasemoore941 Год назад
@@ShortVersion1 thank you for your reply. I was trying to wrap my mind around the consumption side of things as well. We have a similar set up as you, all electric (including hot water heater) and primary vehicle is an EV. We keep our mini splits set between 68 and 72 degrees, depending on the season. The major factor for our consumption might be the older construction methods used in our home and a need for an insulation renewal in the attic. One odd thing I noticed with the design Tesla has presented us, is they designed the roof around existing attic vents, which according to every image I have found of a finished roof online, they convert from the traditional vents to a ridge line vent. I'm guessing this might be where some additional production might come from. I'm working on getting a time scheduled to speak to someone on the phone, the default of receiving texts from multiple people at Tesla has probably led to some communication falling through. Thank you for your guidance on the conservative offset figure.
@robinrussell7965
@robinrussell7965 Год назад
Should you factor in the gasoline savings from your EV?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Well, we've had the EV for years, and used to charge for free at apartments anyway. It's really tricky with all the mental gymnastics one has to do about ROI anyway, there being so many ways to cut it. For instance, the Tesla app showed me how much more energy was used setting AC to higher temp, vs setting it in fan mode. My whole life, if it were cool enough, but I didn't want it to get hot, I would just turn thermostat up a few degrees. That might have used 700w in an semi-idle state (can't remember specifics) but now I see fan mode uses maybe half of that. So the whole last year we probably saved a dollar or two running fan mode instead of higher AC temp. If we didn't have solar, that could've saved 10 bucks or so over a Summer... But how does one factor that in? So more towards your point, I think not because it was usually free for us, but it would be a factor for someone else definitely.
@pierremartel3552
@pierremartel3552 Год назад
Thanks for the information, I dont know where you are located. It would be nice to have an estimated of where you are so we can figure out the total output of your system vs the latitude and altitude you are. Dont need to be too precise. I am in canada and Tesla system been something I've been looking upon
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
We're in northern Colorado! Honestly, from what I can tell, there are so many factors with solar production such as orientation, shade from trees, and in our case smog/air pollution. My impression is that solar is still viable if the other criteria are well suited. So a south-facing array with no obstruction could produce a bunch of solar, even in Canada. I've heard there are really precise programs for estimating yield online. Thanks!
@RonHarrisMe
@RonHarrisMe Год назад
How big is your house? My electric bill in Texas is 5 times your yearly bill. You focused a lot on heat, so my guess is you are up north? You didn't mention any "sell back" of your extra electricity? Do you have that option?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
3 bedroom, 2 bath ~2400sft maybe, with mixed short and really tall ceilings. In northern Colorado. We sell back excess solar most of the year, and just got the option to export from battery a couple weeks ago. It was a software update, which could save a lot in winter and help export more during peak in summer. Some months we export as much as 900kwh to the grid, but it varies by season.
@WilliamLHart
@WilliamLHart Год назад
i might be concerned with the "air gap" between the tiles and the roof depending on it's configuration. i.e. Can it be cleaned out or is it "self cleaning"? - Is it a haven for bug nests? - how much debris (leaf/dust buildup) does it collect? - blowing snow buildup? etc, etc.
@Justanothervegandude
@Justanothervegandude Год назад
afaik its a required feature of every roof, its needed for ventilation. its not a telsa roof thing
@Asta-wl8jz
@Asta-wl8jz Год назад
@@Justanothervegandude Since when?
@jamespash4059
@jamespash4059 Год назад
There are very small holes in the metal screens at top and bottom. Air goes through to cool your roof. Nice!
@sbramel93
@sbramel93 Год назад
Solar panels require an air gap so they don’t overheat and reduce power generation. The air gap provides a little space for cooling the hot solar shingles and reduces heating the house as much via conduction.
@ellisjk1409
@ellisjk1409 Год назад
You talked me out of wanting one, thankls.
@ronp5644
@ronp5644 Год назад
me too. he wont do a review 10 years from now cuz it wont work any more
@evrythingis1
@evrythingis1 Год назад
@@ronp5644 100% these roofs will be boondoggles that have to be entirely removed or no one will even buy the home.
@vpawid
@vpawid Год назад
I think I missed it what state is this in?😅
@edition-deluxe
@edition-deluxe Год назад
He said low, then said 30 stacks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO. You got jacked bro
@dustyd69
@dustyd69 Год назад
How did you go from gas forced air heat to electric? Base board heaters ? Maybe I missed something?
@stevemulcahy5014
@stevemulcahy5014 Год назад
Heat pumps. They can still use air handlers and the same ducts.
@DreamWalker886
@DreamWalker886 6 месяцев назад
My AH insurance didn't propose any money to me, instead they ended our insurance contract due to older roof
@LDixon21
@LDixon21 Год назад
What insurance company you got? I have never had any offer to give me anything towards a roof replacement.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
I believe it was Statefarm, it was surprising to me too. I've only even been cancelled for making claims but this was some hail damage on a 20+yr old roof.
@CGrantL
@CGrantL Год назад
The insurance company paid you to replace your roof?? Every one I’ve ever heard of just threatens to cancel
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
That sounds like State Farm!
@yahanaashaqua
@yahanaashaqua Год назад
Nice review
@skysurferuk
@skysurferuk Год назад
Sometimes I giggle. You describe the cost of drying clothes in summer... I use my outside dryer... a washing line.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Keep it up! Our dryer uses twice as much electricity as our electric car. There's some luxuries we afford ourselves hehe Some day maybe we will use a clothes line, for now... we have nasty neighbors!
@tinybigbus1873
@tinybigbus1873 11 месяцев назад
Very informative video. Thank you. Is that Your D and D sword.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 11 месяцев назад
The machete was hanging there when we moved in! I like to think it has something to do with the perverse hauntings.
@1975Per
@1975Per Год назад
Could you change the gas heating to electric, and then also change so that you only charge the batteries from the grid during the night when prices are lower?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Absolutely, we already have done both of those things. Thanks!
@curtisnelson7817
@curtisnelson7817 Год назад
@@ShortVersion1 Are you using battery power during the day to export power to the grid during "Peak hours"? What operating mode does your system run under?
@paxxo1985
@paxxo1985 Год назад
Here in eu i just paid 130 euros for 180kw. You consume mine monthly stuff in 2 days. Imagine the ROI here!
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
That's wild!!
@kevinkc3onohelijeepworld953
Maybe talk about cleaning ? Do you have trees ? Do you clean weekly monthly ?? What do you use to clean ? I would think simple green ?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
We don't clean, trees make a bigger difference. Recently addressed this in FAQ video. Thanks
@d8f1ant75
@d8f1ant75 11 месяцев назад
Fan-tastic... I was expecting $100,000 with 3 powerwalls / Roof... good to hear it finally happens... somewhere, somehow... endless Hoops
@gezaatlo6739
@gezaatlo6739 Год назад
The quickest return on investment is not buying batteries. Just buy solar panels yourself and either have a non-solar local electrician put it up for you or do it yourself. You can have your solar power charge a smaller cheaper "solar generator" which you can use to charge everything that needs to be charged, and connect it to your refrigerator. All the battery power is not needed. Do electric consuming tasks when during the daytime when the system is active and sleep at night. This crazy system only gives them a day plus a bit in the winter of use if the power goes out. Not worth it for those rare times, and the day of storage isn't as comforting as a chord of wood.
@Rottingboards
@Rottingboards Год назад
Do you live in an area with snow? If so how do you clean off?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Yeah, Northern Colorado, we don't clean it. The tiles are slippery and it comes avalanching down.
@fredradon2484
@fredradon2484 Год назад
Well done.
@American_Energy
@American_Energy Год назад
Cool video! I did Tesla Solar (panels) + Powerwalls and I have buyer’s remorse about not doing the solar roof.
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
There's always the next house haha Thanks!
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts Год назад
you may want to look into way Walmart and other companies ditched tesla solar. give you a hint the solar panels went up in flames due to being made in china
@American_Energy
@American_Energy Год назад
@@toomanyaccounts You’re not wrong that those systems were faulty, but they weren’t Tesla panels. The systems in question were purchased from, installed by, and maintained by SolarCity. The lawsuit took place after Tesla purchased SolarCity, so it was an inherited problem. It would be like Stellantis getting sued for something Dodge did. In any case, my panels were made at Gigafactory Buffalo, NY, and my Powerwalls were made at Giga-Nevada. I absolutely love that Tesla is bringing manufacturing back to America!
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts Год назад
@@American_Energy It was Elon's company all along. He had his cousins start it for him.
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 Год назад
How's the heat pump for heating and cooling?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
It's been great, definitely has the power to heat/cool. If someone doesn't have solar, it would cost more to run than natural gas heat for sure. Thanks 👍🏻
@sd906238
@sd906238 Год назад
Do the solar panels shut off when there is a power outage?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Nope, it switches to battery power and the solar keeps feeding the battery. Thanks!
@wesbaumguardner8829
@wesbaumguardner8829 Год назад
How long does the roof underlayment (shark skin) warranty last?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Good question, I don't know the specifics or if it was specified.
@wesbaumguardner8829
@wesbaumguardner8829 Год назад
@@ShortVersion1 Assuming, that the shingling of the Tesla panels may not be perfect, that would be a good thing to look into. If any water gets past the panels, that shark skin is the only thing preventing water infiltration into your home. Most residential roofs warranty for 15-25 years. Considering that if you have a roof leak, you are going to have to hire a Tesla certified technician, which will likely be much higher cost than a standard installer to repair your roof, this may be a cost you will need to take into consideration in your overall cost analysis.
@monkeysrevill
@monkeysrevill Год назад
sorry didn't hear in the video what state do you live in?
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Colorado!
@monkeysrevill
@monkeysrevill Год назад
@@ShortVersion1 ty!
@g4egk
@g4egk Год назад
Did you mean 90kWh to heat your house in winter? Sounds like a whole lot of power, especially if your SCOP on your heat pumps is 3x or more
@ShortVersion1
@ShortVersion1 Год назад
Some days, like intense winter storms, we used that much for all of our energy, which I'd assume heating is ~3/4 of. It was really eye-opening. After seeing that, we keep the thermostats much lower, but used space heater in closed rooms if we wanted it to feel warmer. This Winter, we'll be experimenting with IR-panels to try and get that figure much lower. Our average in January (whole house) was 62.5 kwh, and February was 57.6 kwh. Way too much IMO, but on a day we had someone else staying here, they used 95.8 kwh. Had we been using gas, we may never have bothered calculating/converting which is scary!
@evrythingis1
@evrythingis1 Год назад
@@ShortVersion1 That's a lot o f money to spend to still have to use space heaters because your house is uncomfortably cold...
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