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Teslarossa Ep8 - 0-60 & Traction Control 

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@89five3five
@89five3five Год назад
You should take this to a local Ferrari meet and film the reactions. 😂
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
We had considered it 👍😀
@89five3five
@89five3five Год назад
@@spudproductions7606 Do it!!!
@richardhoulton4016
@richardhoulton4016 Год назад
They wouldn’t be nice
@steveanderson6523
@steveanderson6523 Год назад
That would probably have taken 3000 miles off the life of the clutch on a 'normal' Testarossa! 😄
@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524
In other words, all of it!
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
I dread to think how much that would cost to replace too. 😆😎👍
@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524
@@ElectricClassicCars Quite
@roberts.wilson1848
@roberts.wilson1848 Год назад
Teslarossa, the Ferrari experience without the "Ferrari" experience.
@paulf2898
@paulf2898 Год назад
It would have probably caught fire and burnt 😂
@rustedbeetle
@rustedbeetle Год назад
2:13 that's not a symbol for a GPS Sensor antenna, that's obviously the symbol for the Flux Capacitor.
@EQINOX187
@EQINOX187 Год назад
GREAT SCOTT you are right!
@georgedaville4662
@georgedaville4662 Год назад
Another brilliant video Richard explaining in simple terms a complicated subject. The TeslaRossa is an awesome machine, but vey functional 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿😎
@jeromeandre4915
@jeromeandre4915 Год назад
The first 5 seconds of the video alone justified all the effort you put into converting the Ferrari. Awesome.
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
👍👍
@locknut5382
@locknut5382 Год назад
An improvement of 0.61 seconds - 12.3% - was better than I expected. With a full battery, and maybe without a passenger, that improvement would have been even greater. Thanks to both of you for performing the tests, 🙂👍
@billzuber4042
@billzuber4042 Год назад
Richard just wanted an excuse to do burnouts lol😂
@dashcam2417
@dashcam2417 Год назад
As a Ferrari fan , I’m at a yes but no , no but YES moment.😮
@nandobarreto2
@nandobarreto2 Год назад
What happens with the TC when you're inside a tunnel and lose GPS signal?
@GingerPiston
@GingerPiston Год назад
Came here to ask the same!
@laurieharper1526
@laurieharper1526 Год назад
I wondered, too. I should imagine the answer is to be gentle with the right foot.
@MartinzW
@MartinzW Год назад
I'm also curious. I read about some sensors online and they combine 3-axis gyros, accelerometers and magnetometers - so perhaps that also comes into aid for traction control? Particularly accelerometer. Think "at what speed computer sees wheels spinning versus the inertia felt by accelerometer" - this would also explain how it's so instant as accelerometer gets immediate feedback from inertia. Accelerometer however can't tell the speed so GPS aids for corrections at high speed which still makes your question relevant. My assumptions though.
@bugjuicer
@bugjuicer Год назад
What's the chances of needing TC when you're already moving? Unless there's standing water in there and you aquaplane, but if you come to a stop in a tunnel, then it'd probably be traffic related, not going to gun it away there.. Also wondered tho
@RoadcraftNottingham
@RoadcraftNottingham Год назад
This'll shut the "it's a milk float" crew up! Knocked a second off the standard engine time
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
And it will go quicker than that. Probably 1.5 to 2 seconds quicker. 👍😀
@robsmall6466
@robsmall6466 Год назад
How many years did it take to better that standard engine time ? Ferrari did a great job in the first place. When this car was still a Ferrari
@LAboarder90
@LAboarder90 Год назад
hello, an interesting comparison would be on the race track ( original suspension to optimized version)
@RIPPERTON
@RIPPERTON Год назад
Probably docked yourself 80 hp by not having full battery charge. wheel kW = battery voltage x controller current x 80%
@OCDRex11
@OCDRex11 Год назад
My childhood wall poster transformed into an electric?! EGAD!!!! But, holy cow is this amazing! I almost want to hunt for an old Ferrari now and build! Just a beautiful result and I love the Red Head's NA 12 cylinder. I loved the one I saw in person in 1989, I love the Miami Vice one, I love the models I have. I love everything about the Testarossa. This though, this is epic! Off to binge the whole series.
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
Welcome on board. 😀👍
@ianh9696
@ianh9696 Год назад
What makes me laugh is his Land Rover can do it in 3.8 seconds 😂
@neilmckechnie6638
@neilmckechnie6638 Год назад
I suspect that by the time that Rich has sprinkled some magic dust on the power management system, the Teslarossa will be closer to 3 seconds for 0-60 mph
@markbennett6658
@markbennett6658 Год назад
The Testarossa will no doubt have a significantly higher top speed, greater refinement and go around corners a lot better than his Land Rover as well!
@Mardy72
@Mardy72 Год назад
@@neilmckechnie6638 remember tho, his Defender is AWD....and it's punching out 600hp. Both vehicles are around the same weight too, which is interesting. Also, keep in mind that traction control cuts power (momentarily) on and off to limit wheel spin. There might be some time lost there, even tho it's faster than no TC on a RWD vehicle. The acceleration ramp looked a little soft too, but that can be adjusted. I'm not sure if the Defender has TC or he is just relying on the AWD grip. I'm guessing once the suspension is sorted it will help with weight transfer and a little more tuning might get it down to below 4
@neilmckechnie6638
@neilmckechnie6638 Год назад
@@Mardy72 You raise an interesting point; the possibility of a AWD Teslarossa which may be someone's solution for a track-day weapon.
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
AWD really helps to get the power down. It’s all about grip when you’re down at 4 second or less 0-60mph times.
@GTD40CarClub
@GTD40CarClub Год назад
Richard, how do you know when the funs over and it's time to deliver it to the customer? When the rears are at 1.6mm tread depth...
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
Yep 🤣😆👍
@zodiacfml
@zodiacfml Год назад
something new with GPS?! resolution for consumer GPS is a few meters.🤔🤔
@frankcoffey
@frankcoffey Год назад
Some customers would want the car without the traction control. They love burnouts.
@Nino500
@Nino500 Год назад
Judging by the smoke with the T/C off, I reckon just stickier tyres/road surface could knock another half second off that 0-60 easily.😁
@intrikatone4057
@intrikatone4057 Год назад
I am hoping you can covert a newish cayman one day but with a very small battery pack to maximise power to weight.maybe it could have a secondary remove able battery pack to take out at the track ... great videos guys
@GalenlevyPhoto
@GalenlevyPhoto Год назад
Insane! Hopefully you can get it down to mid 3 0-60 with everything all tuned up. It’s gonna be one fast Testa!
@youxkio
@youxkio Год назад
0:01 now that is a Ferrari!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂 Richard!!! That is INSANE!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@terryhayward7905
@terryhayward7905 Год назад
Why not just compare the speed of rotation of the front wheels versus the rear wheels ? A lot cheaper safer and simpler, since in town there are places where GPS will often drop out.
@anlealanleal3218
@anlealanleal3218 Год назад
Came here with exactly the same question. This is rear wheels drive, why don't use it without all this sat options.
@johngordon9987
@johngordon9987 Год назад
I have the same concerns about GPS. What happens in a tunnel, or a city full of skyscrapers? As for why not use wheel sensors, I'm going to guess it is a lot simpler to retro fit the GPS version to a car than it is to add rotational sensors to each wheel.
@TC-V8
@TC-V8 Год назад
I doubt the Ferrari had ABS so it won't have wheel speed sensors. Much easier to fit a GPS system. Cant see any sensible person needing traction control in a built up area!
@timstreeter9795
@timstreeter9795 Год назад
Because the gps antenna doesn’t use the satellite to measure speed, it derives the it from an accurate accelerometer
@paulsmith4996
@paulsmith4996 Год назад
A great show, look forward to seeing the suspension updates and track test. Is this really using only GPS to control the torque or does it make use of an onboard accelerometer as well? What happens in say, poor weather with weak GPS signal or areas where the GPS signal is weaker due to buildings, tunnels etc?
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 9 месяцев назад
That is a gorgeous dam, oh, and the car is nice too 😉 I'm surprised by how well the GPS traction control works. "Even an idiot can do it now" is an excellent stamp of approval!
@rushja
@rushja Год назад
Now I've got the Outrun theme on repeat in my mind, such an 80s car it's awesome
@billbubnis3128
@billbubnis3128 Год назад
OMG. I want one, when I win the lottery, what will this set me back?
@robmcknight2154
@robmcknight2154 Год назад
I am stuck in the middle as a through and through petrolhead and can't get my head around taking the engine out of a ferrari, but at the same time I am very impressed by your work
@SideTripLife
@SideTripLife Год назад
Hi from Thailand. I watch your show Vintage Voltage on Discovery and saw Louis had your link tp your YT so now SUBBED!
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
Welcome 👍👍😀
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan Год назад
I'm more of a Lamborghini fan but that is a Ferrari I like!
@mikejf4377
@mikejf4377 Год назад
How does it connect into the system? is it a module because using GPS that probably a small digital module. Very cool.
@rollingstocks
@rollingstocks Год назад
Such a cool build. Thanks for showing us beautiful Wales too.
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
No problem. Glad you enjoyed it 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👍😀
@TheRedstonelabz1
@TheRedstonelabz1 Год назад
Problem with these video's is that it makes me want one.
@ohyeahhhuh
@ohyeahhhuh Год назад
That really looks like “The Life”. Doing acceleration tests in a Teslarossa in the Welsh green hills!
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
It’s a tough job but someone has to do it. 👍😀
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
Doesn’t get much better than that. 😎⚡️👍
@neilmckechnie6638
@neilmckechnie6638 Год назад
The Teslarossa is a damned-fine car. The suspension and handling fettling video promises to be epic.
@CountryRoadCycles
@CountryRoadCycles Год назад
Awesome video. Can you provide some more of the technical details in a future video? Is this something that is doable/affordable by someone doing a more basic conversion say on a classic VW?
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LEQgV0t3BKU.html
@dtengineering1
@dtengineering1 Год назад
Great explanation Richard. Would be interesting if you showed us the max g-forces and MPH for those runs. Cheers
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
I’ll see if we can show that next time. 👍
@NewZeroland
@NewZeroland Год назад
Holy electric burnout Batman!!
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 Год назад
The car is amazing and the traction control seems to work great but what wold happen in an area with no GPS connection? Where I live it can be pretty patchy.
@peterhillas81
@peterhillas81 Год назад
Very educational and super entertaining. I very much enjoy seeing the fruits of your work come to fruition! Great work ECC team!
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
Thanks
@Mr_Fahrenheit
@Mr_Fahrenheit Год назад
Isn’t Wales beautiful, and the cars not bad too, lol, you have made a cracking job of the conversion
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
Thanks. It’s a beautiful place. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@colinpain4892
@colinpain4892 Год назад
So weird shredding tyres with no engine noise but really impressive
@MedEighty
@MedEighty Год назад
With a GPS-based traction control system, wouldn't you still be able to spin the wheels in tunnels?
@pawpawbandit3871
@pawpawbandit3871 Год назад
Tesla should hire this guy and he should be calling the shots!
@Decenium
@Decenium Год назад
man look at that damn at 11:00 in the background, someone should drive a landrover up that to celebrate the last landrover releasing or something.
@terryfleming7084
@terryfleming7084 Год назад
I would like to see the difference in the wet. I’m betting that would be a lot of fun!
@neoanderson7
@neoanderson7 Год назад
That thing is a missle now! 👏🏻 Can’t wait for the suspension tune. 👍🏻
@nunofernandes4501
@nunofernandes4501 Год назад
Great stuff. Your homeland has beautiful landscapes!
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
Thanks. We are very lucky. 👍😀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@deltajohnny
@deltajohnny Год назад
Awesome technology, and your hands are magic... what a nice car!! 😍😍😍
@stuartrees1415
@stuartrees1415 Год назад
Driving a Testarossa in the Elan Valley... Fantastic work on this Ferrari guys and looks like you had fun playing with it too ;)
@thhedk
@thhedk Год назад
How on earth can a GPS based traction control be faster and more precise, than comparing front and back wheels directly??
@mrme0wf832
@mrme0wf832 Год назад
If your neck hurts, you're doing it right! That teslarossa looks like its going to be lots of fun! Can't wait for the next ep 😻👍
@RustOnWheels
@RustOnWheels Год назад
Can this car handle all that power and speed? It has never seen so much power in its lifetime 😂
@space.youtube
@space.youtube Год назад
What happens if GPS signal is momentarily lost?
@bryandickerson5365
@bryandickerson5365 Год назад
Always awesome videos, but I really do think I’d rather experience the challenge of controlling the traction with my own brain and foot.
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
You can always switch TC off. 👍
@ronaldking1054
@ronaldking1054 Год назад
How hard is it to synchronize 2 trans-axle motors? I figure that is something similar to the traction control problem.
@dusanvuckovic17
@dusanvuckovic17 Год назад
keeping poster cars relevant. I look forward to the next one.
@steveanderson6523
@steveanderson6523 Год назад
Bloody hell! Never seen a Testarossa do that.
@bellofbelmont
@bellofbelmont Год назад
Very enjoyable. Thanks and well done. Jim Bell (Australia)
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
Thanks Jim 👍
@jdoniach
@jdoniach Год назад
I'm sure others have asked you this, but have you considered converting a Citroën DS with a Tesla motor? Others have done it with a HyPer9 motor but that retains the gearbox.
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
Not yet. 👍
@ThomasSchick
@ThomasSchick Год назад
Most excellent content…Beautiful set of wheels!
@ronfacciol4904
@ronfacciol4904 Год назад
Richard, Greatly enjoy the channel, and I love the depth of engineering knowhow shown by you and your team. I do have one small gripe, though.... Given that you have acknowledged that Traction Control is not just a performance enhancer, but also provides safety, I do not agree with using just GPS for this function on the TeslaRossa. You must have spent quite a bit of money on this car, and as such, I would have thought that fitting speed sensors on the wheels would have been a worthwhile investment. This car has tremendous torque and power - what if you hit an oil slick inside of a long tunnel ? (We have quite a few of those even here in Australia) - Just think of the massive pile up it would create..... Food for thought? Ron
@joeg3950
@joeg3950 Год назад
Fantastic! Great video and content. Can’t wait for the tune suspension bit
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
👍👍
@lkuhn65
@lkuhn65 Год назад
I would really enjoy being the traction control tester of this vehicle! Grins for days
@anidiotinaracingcar4874
@anidiotinaracingcar4874 Год назад
Does the GPS traction control work in a curve?
@matthewhormann8752
@matthewhormann8752 Год назад
This project is awesome! I can’t wait to see this car on the track after the suspension is tuned.
@EQINOX187
@EQINOX187 Год назад
One of my concerns with GPS traction control is well the GPS aspect and how unreliable the GPS signal can be at times, GPS signals can be lost or degraded if you are in a populated area like cities or if you go in a tunnel
@adamlowe005
@adamlowe005 Год назад
My thought too, city driving with shielded GPS signals would be problematic
@paulbennett4548
@paulbennett4548 Год назад
One question; what satellite system does the traction control talk to? My navigation system is +/- 30 meters.
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
No idea. It’s insane how accurate it is, just like the Dragy system we use to record 0-60 times with.
@taurota1554
@taurota1554 Год назад
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
Thanks 👍😀
@jed1137
@jed1137 Год назад
I love the idea of an electrified Ferrari. I would not rely on GPS for traction control. It may work OK in the open Wild West of Wales with just sheep for company but the signal will disappear in tunnels and driving through forests or built up areas you will get multi path reflections that could make the instantaneous speed measurement jump all over the place.
@hanniffydinn6019
@hanniffydinn6019 Год назад
How is traction control installed? 🤓🤓
@bugjuicer
@bugjuicer Год назад
just occurred to me; using the GPS feature/function; could you use that as a rudimentary cruise control, and even speedo (or calibration at least)?
@sameerrehman9731
@sameerrehman9731 Год назад
You guys should create your very own in house kit car body for these machines, they are phenomenal!
@h3x6g0n6
@h3x6g0n6 Год назад
What's wrong with this one?
@sameerrehman9731
@sameerrehman9731 10 месяцев назад
Nothing wrong with it, just would be cool
@hunterhomeservicesracing6453
I have a gps speedo in my car ,do you have problems with overcast days like I do not finding the satellites
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
I tried a GPS speedo many years ago. The results weren’t good. So far the GPS traction control system has been faultless. Something must be fundamentally different between the two.
@rajeshdaryanani7806
@rajeshdaryanani7806 Год назад
I love the whining noise! It reminds me of Knight Rider😅
@MattRootsTube
@MattRootsTube Год назад
Are you inviting The Stig to your track test😆. That looked painful during those runs but the rate of acceleration doesn't really come across in the video. It almost looked like quite a delay from your right leg planting the throttle and the scenery starting to move outside the window? You should get a G-Meter hooked up, see what the forces are? Still very impressive to watch though and, as others have commented, Wales was looking splendid.
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
Thanks 👍😀
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
We record the g forces on the Dragy. We should show that next time. We have someone better than the Stig lined up for the track test. 😎👍
@James_T_Quirk
@James_T_Quirk Год назад
So I ask what do you use in VW Bug & Crewcab/Buffy in regards to Traction, is it GPS cause of the Tesla Gear ?, I was wondering as it seems a nice option, to turn it off, to warm up the tires a bit, then switch it on for the "Race", or Demo .. ;), Maybe you should do a Lap around Nuremberg with it, Before Delivery, just to make Mercedes Drivers Weep, OOps, I mean to test out its function at speed ..
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
I’ve installed the same system in the Crewcab now. Works soooo good. We’re going to put it on everything now. 👍
@rowanditcham9617
@rowanditcham9617 Год назад
Fantastic, you need a gmeter😎😎
@ConnorDylan
@ConnorDylan Год назад
So 4.3 with 1/2 battery and an extra 200 lbs in the car. What will it do with 1 driver and full battery?
@KapnKuTT
@KapnKuTT Год назад
Does the GPS traction control have other support sensors, like an accelerometer or gyro? How does it work if your in a tunnel?
@TechSowa
@TechSowa Год назад
Part 9 next!!
@josephbidon4333
@josephbidon4333 11 месяцев назад
Actually, no need to even sit in the car. Put a camera in the car, sit at home, and drive it just like a playstation in real time! You can use it for delivery purposes.
@mumblbeebee6546
@mumblbeebee6546 Год назад
I got to say, respect to your right foot, only using a third of a second longer feathering it without TC!!
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
It took some practice. 😆😃👍
@kashifkhan3040
@kashifkhan3040 Год назад
very nice. need an electric countach to complete the 80s dream team.
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
Yes 🙏
@bikkiikun
@bikkiikun Год назад
What happens to the traction contol if you lose the GPS signal (e.g. in a tunnel)??
@rodrigobelinchon2982
@rodrigobelinchon2982 Год назад
that car is a thing of beauty
@lasersbee
@lasersbee Год назад
Want one.... Need one....👍👍👍
@m.i.andersen8167
@m.i.andersen8167 Год назад
It gets better and better! Really seeing forward to the track race.
@MrValeDale
@MrValeDale 6 месяцев назад
I'm fascinated by the fact that GPS is so fast that it can be used for traction control!
@nuszresnebisyr970
@nuszresnebisyr970 Год назад
it was 3.99 sec 🤔 w/o traction.. & King Richard of ECC😊 ..his Majesty was alone but now it is 4.35sec ? with gizmo.😮..guess the 'phone holder ' has got to go...😅..its all about balance and weight😂..
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
He’s a heavy phone holder. And it was colder with lower soc. 👍😀😂
@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524
Bloody hell!
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 Год назад
Looking forward to track time, but this car is already a marvel!!!
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
Not as much as we’re looking forward to track time. Can’t wait….😂🤣😉👍
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 Год назад
@@ElectricClassicCars Have fun and stay safe!
@pasad335
@pasad335 Год назад
Really shows how limiting it is to have just two driven wheels. There are any number of AWD electric SUVs doing 3 seconds or even less. But yeah, for a RWD EV to get into the 4s is pretty fast!
@4literv6
@4literv6 Год назад
The mcmurty speirling ev is rwd only and does 1.3s 0-60mph runs and 7.9@150mph in the quarter mile. 😀👍🏻
@grahambeyer6254
@grahambeyer6254 Год назад
7:10 did I detect a touch of lag when pressing the gas peddle?
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
Probably more like a lag me pressing the throttle. Haven’t noticed any lag otherwise.
@rossokeefe9655
@rossokeefe9655 Год назад
How much do you want for it?
@Mardy72
@Mardy72 Год назад
It's not his car, it's a customer's
@GerardBendotti
@GerardBendotti Год назад
PSA: no lenses were harmed in the making of this video?
@screechmr2
@screechmr2 Год назад
warm day and high soc, it'll probably be closer to 3.5 to 60. great work on that car!
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
Thanks 👍😀
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
There’s only one way to find out. 😁😉👍
@54mgtf22
@54mgtf22 Год назад
Love your work 👍
@markyormark7747
@markyormark7747 Год назад
Are you going to post who makes this GPS based traction control. Does the traction control do so by changing the 0-5vdc signal of the accelerator pedal or does it directly control the inverter. My inverter control acuity is every 2 mili-seconds.
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
It’s made by EV Controls and communicates with the T2C controller via CAN.
@markyormark7747
@markyormark7747 Год назад
@@ElectricClassicCars Thank you😀
@agentcooper2417
@agentcooper2417 Год назад
Re living back to the future with that 1st burn out even the electric noise gave it atmosphere 👍with the GPS system is it plug in a play?or countless hours of wiring it in?
@ElectricClassicCars
@ElectricClassicCars Год назад
It just needs to have 12v feed and CAN wired to the motor controller. Very simple to install and one button to set it up. 😎👍
@krisvandermeulen253
@krisvandermeulen253 Год назад
A fine day for outside filming ... and no rain as a plus 😉
@spudproductions7606
@spudproductions7606 Год назад
It never rains in Wales 😉
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