Teslarossa Ep9 - Suspension 

When the owner gets his car back, I would be interested in his reaction to the Testarossa! This is definitely a better car now .

Stance is everything. Car looks awesome. Great way to save these old dinosaurs. 550lbs?

Is there suspension with this technology on the market to retrofit regular cars, mainly for more comfortable rides on very bumpy roads? Not necessarily super high end race-winning technology, but more budget friendly for comfort? I am really into comfort. Honestly my Poor Man Solution so far has been changing comfort with my tires / lower tire pressure. For example driving with a little less tire pressure in cities with a lot of tramways, cobblestones, etc. I am also thinking about getting smaller rims so i have more rubber. Additionally I hypothesize that some tires ment for heavy SUV's, with extra puncture protection are stiffer overall and lead to less comfort (but I am just a regular person without specialized knowledge).

Hats off to you. I love the Ferrari design and the power of electric motor which has a lot less maintenance. You going to have a lot more business!

Incredible, informative episode. I think when classic car owners who are interested in an electric conversion, they'll certainly be swayed by watching this.

Great to see two experts in one video .looking fwd to the next testing thrash 👍

A fun part for me is the fact you can hear each other during the test drive.

I wonder how smooth the ride would be with active suspension on a comfort setting, fitted into a VW-Syncro CamperVan.

Who would have thought that Ferrari would use cheap shitty metal for their springs 😂😂 Ferrari exemplify the Emperor's new clothes

You said “It's shockingly good!”🤣🤣

I’m a petrolhead but man! I would love to have a daily driver classic supercar

You should talk to the other Richard (Mr Rawlings) who’s attempting something similar to your Teslarossa over at GMG in Texas. You could teach him a thing or two!

Like Singer and Porsche- improving on 'perfection'

Shame there isn't a two thumbs up button

Richard I've heard another anti-ev doozy, perhaps you could cover it in an episode. I took my RWD Model Y into the tyre shop to fix a slow leak, one of the tyre shop workers was adamant that if they didn't hoist car properly the hoist would sever the high voltage cable and kill someone. I knew that was complete rubbish but had to check the owners manual once I got home to comfirm. Turns out I was correct, and some tyre shop workers are stupid.

14:45 I'm going with 600 lbs/inch, for a round number. Wild guess, as any variation will have a large effect: quality of the steel, diameter of the wire, windings (5,5 Vs 6), etc.

Would be a good technology for the Tesla Cybertruck, with its long suspension travel and higher centre of mass.

The subtext to this seems to be that, despite the price, some of the engineering on the original out-of-the-box Testarossa was a bit -crap- basic.

I would like to know how much the new suspension costs? Thanks Peter Australia.

Please make an electric Lamborghini Countach!!

I'm not sure on the broad appeal, but I think real gear-heads that understand the promise of EV conversion for classics would go nuts over a Citroën DS 21 ‘Majesty’ conversion.

Are you going to do a Ferrari Dino-mo?

Just watched a gas monkey video and he is claiming to be the first to EV one. I left a message saying it was done in Wales already :)

What brand of shock system did they put on it? He said there made over here in America? Great video.

How great it would be if Tesla would install such suspensions on Model 3 and Y.

Gasmonkey won't have a 1 of 1 then..

Brilliant episode, thanks. Simon is great, obviously passionate, creative, and inventive. Learned a good bit, thanks.

Have you had any angry letters from ferrari 😂 I'd have a teslarossa if I win the lotto !

Nice, How much weight did the New Suspension Save, IF Any ?, & the Race Car Formally known as "Buffy" could do with some of that Suspension as well, I suspect ..

Love your content, hope one day to buy one of your kits or cars!

I just love it when you guys collaborate on projects, bringing the best of the two worlds. And, like an idiot I get to learn more about suspension today. Thank you and all the best to both teams.

Did you weight the difference between the two systems? Just wondered what the weight saving was from the stock set up. I have a 2016 Model S 85D with the standard suspension. I've tried to get upgraded antiroll bars and an aftermarket suspension upgrade ie Bilstein, Eibach, Unplugged, but there are no options for the earlier Model S. This would be the ultimate upgrade, smart casual for long trips and fast road for when the mood takes you. And if it knocks a few kilos off the weight, thats an added bonus.

Loved this one. Can watch engineering vids all day long. Well explained, Cheers

thanks! this is educational to me! only now realized this is like electrifying the damping system! does electric damping work with air suspension?

i want it i want it i want it i want it 😋

Really.... shocking. Heh! Thanks for sharing this information with us, Richard. 🙂👍

wow I thought you would just do some mild tuning and you get this amazing setup. What a car you are creating this is amazing. I think a lot of people would be very interested in driving it.

I really enjoy this channel. I wish you guys had a location in the U.S.

Spring rate 🤔 my guess for the application you said it must be around 900lbs.

Money well spent. Looks like it's really coming together. Thanks for the vid and taking the trouble to fully explain the process..... Jim Bell (Australia)

I spotted one of your own guys in there. Was he training to fit the suspension system in house? I remember him from the TV program. I'm sure Tractive are Dutch, they make shocks for motorcycles also.

This was a great episode, it makes you want to go out an install active-ride on pretty much any vehicle. The weight savings must have been 20+ kg as well i reckon...

Did you weigh the new setup vs the old.. I bet you've reclaimed the 40kg's... ( Never mind, I see you did later in the vid )

What's the difference between semi-active suspension and full active?

Now, there’s nothing like being controversial - “chocolate hobnobs, the King of Biscuits” oof, brace yourself for the backlash! 🤣😂

Brilliant job mate! Can't wait for the next track episode! Cheers from Portugal!

Thanks! Suspension, always something I'm fascinated by, because I find it difficult to get my head around... RE: spring rating, I'll guess at 1500 pound...

One thing doesn't click in my head: the dual active/passive setup at the rear. How come it isn't imbalanced? My intuition tells me that the passive one is as soft as the softest setting on the active one but that's my intuition. How does that work exactly?

Have you given any thought to the idea of linking different suspension settings to the different engine settings, with a manual override. So that in "normal" situations the suspension will automatically change to match the performance of the car?

You mentioned near the end, that it can even react to a pothole drop. I suggest that would therefore reduce stress to all the suspension parts, and probably extend their expected life as well. Great video ✅

Impressive !

The shock-setup shocked me more than the EV conversion. Nah, impressed* compressed? Haha.

what a system! I want one. Another great video thanks. Must get a price for my hillclimb car.

How much weight did you lose with the new suspension setup?

Fantastic new suspension! Looks like fun. My guess on the spring rate. He said it was a Indy or Formula 1 car. I would say about 950#. Great content as always!

Very interesting but you must be a gent Moggie as you never mention money 😆

Great video and great series up to now! I think it would be amazing if one day we could see a bog standard Testarossa vs the Teslarossa go around the track back to back in the hands of someone like Ben Colins 😂

20:51 "I mean, it's SHOCKING how good this set-up was..." Fnar! 😁

How much weight did you get rid of from the switch of suspension?

Thank you. we'd loved to have seen your ride home. thanks.

The 'Teslarossa' is now 'bang up to date' with its technology. What seems to be left of the 'Ferrari' DNA is the styling inside and out.

I would imagine that the spring rating would be extremely high possibly 1000 ?

My answer to the “rating of that mini spring” if there is just one on each corner of a 1000kg race car, I would say 250kg or (approximately 550lbs)…

Wow! That is now a completely modern car...

Hugely interesting! What was the total cost?

Funny that Williams F1 had this tech on their cars a couple of years after the Testarossa was built. Just an amazing car. What a difference you've made to it without actually changing the car!

I'd be interested to know if that setup saved any weight from the original? Also another 0-60 time to see if there's a measurable improvement. Great stuff guys!

Assuming the Teslarossa is a customer-build, the owner must have even more patience than he has money … 😅

Enough of a weight reduction to have added any more battery capacity?

does the asymmetrical rear pair put rotational forces on the lower arm?

I can't remember a tutorial about suspension that was THIS good! Excellent! I'm even more excited for your Teslarossa! It's ready for the owner to drive the tyres off it. Looking forward to seeing that. Aloha!

One of my dreams, holy shit. I love it

Such a cool car, way better than any modern Ferrari

Brilliant video!

This video is so informative, I have learned so much so thank you. Suspension has come such a long way since the days of Bilsteins all round. I do dread to think how much this system would cost but you could definitely see the difference in the car when you were setting it up on road test. Fantastic, thank you.

Time to do a new 0-60

A philosophical question occurred to me. Are the shock absorbers part of the sprung or unsprung weight of the car ? As they are partially composed of the springs. If it’s the unsprung weight switching out for lighter shocks by itself should make a mild improvement to performance.

Bangor Shocks, Swansea Shakes, Harlech Rocks! 😁👍

Guessing 1250lb a similar MTB one might be 500 so easily double that!

Would love a set of them, but they don't make them for my car 5th gen Honda prelude 2.2 vti aws that I'm converting to manual as I've burnt out the autobox lol, although if they want a Honda prelude show car to fit them to they can even borrow my car for a year or something I'd be happy donating it for a while so long as they donate the kit, I have a spare Honda prelude I can use for now.

It looks so beautiful, even after so many years.

The active suspension is one of my favorite features of my 2004 R230.

So it’s standard to have one semi-active and not more normal?

Probably nearly 700lb I reckon

Hats off to these guy’s. This is the future for all cars.

I saw this at Goodwood last weekend, it had no price is it for sale ?

Excellent :)

Am I the only one who wants to know how much weight you saved?

😮Amazing suspension 👌 what a car 🤠🤟

Given each rear corner has two struts, should it not have had two identical struts rather than one adjustable one and one regular one? Doesn't it mean it'll hardly ever dampen at the same rate on either side of the axle and potentially cause twisting and fatigue over time?

Hi! Good job on the suspension. It would be interesting to see the power consumption of that system. New subscriber here. 👍 Keep up the good work.

Doesn't having one active shock and one passive shock on each corner compromise the suspension response? Wouldn't it be better to have all active shocks working in unison?

I wish these guys would take care of my Suzuki Ignis, which feels like there's no suspension.

I want a £1 for every time “essentially” is used

How much weight did you lose?

Great one guys, good into to what this type of system can do

I notice it still shows a 5.0L petrol engine on DVLA, do you have to change the V5C with DVLA?

What is the real range of this electric classic?

love this semi active damper technology

what sort of money are we looking at for a system for a MRK 4 Golf please ? 👌🙏