Testing New World with my RTX 3090 FTW3... Surprising results! 

As an electronics engineer, these weird noises from the EVGA card really sound like inductors saturating under overload. This phenomenon creates massive (and very damaging) current spikes in the power stages. When an inductor reaches its maximum current, it suddenly stops being an inductor and allows the current to run away and increase almost without bounds within nanoseconds. Something about the load that New World puts on the VRM might make the phase currents get out of balance (for example, huge swings in power consumption that the VRM isn't fast enough to follow), which then causes inductor saturation and card death. I'd love to see oscilloscope shots of the inductor current and power stage PWM signals, but I guess Jay isn't the right guy for that. Buildzoid...?

12:20 - "Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary right now" *power % jumps from 65% to 128% as soon as he turns his back*

Oh, that grinding noise.. Fun to hear the VRM's crunch themselves to death.

1st test: thermometer 2nd test: Nick says it's hot lol

I feel like there’s one factor you didn’t properly rule out. Heat, most people who experienced the problem probably didn’t have open air test bench. How much hotter would card have gotten had it been in a pc case.

Jay: "ala Mythbusters style..." Me: "When in doubt, C4?"

Sparkly VRM's, that takes me back to a decade ago when GPUs sung their high pitched anthems and groaned running Crysis.

Your card actually hit 125% power at a point, 18% over the set limit, thats a lot of uncontrolled powerdraw

Note to self: Don't play new games on expensive PC , wait a few weeks. What a time to be alive

Just what I've been waiting for. This and whenever Steve gets a hold on it.

Never stop doing those ending out-takes/edits/funny stuff. They're great.

At the end, saying "Nothing happened" - as the power threshold is hovering at 130% of tolerance in the background. I would rephrase that as; "Something has happened - it just hasn't destroyed my card yet"

I'm really interested to see what evga has to say once they get the rma cards back

7:25 "That card is hotter than I ever remember it getting" On screen: "Power Draw: 424W"

Great to hear the bricked cards are being replaced but looks like the behaviour might not yet be resolved. Given the difficult GPU market I can only imagine the tears my eyes would shed if my 3090 died.

"Stop touching it!"' How many times has Jay heard that in his life?

Two thoughts: 1. Trying to ascertain tone from text is notoriously difficult. I read the same thing that Jay did and didn't get the same impression that he did. 2. Love EVGA. Had a 950GTX die on me while playing WoW and since it was under warranty they took it via RMA and sent me back an upgrade, a 1060GTX.

"and the power draw is really low" it's using more power on the title screen than the max TDP of my card

Jay: "safeguards are not designed to be hit and used over and over and over" Buildzoid: I beg to differ...

This video should be called "I digress and nothing happens" 😂

To me, their statement sounded like this: "There's no way in hell we'd accept responsibility for GPUs blowing up. But uncapped frame rate on the title screen is a bit silly so we'll cap it."

Came to see a 3090 fry, liked for the ending edit.

Any true engineer at EVGA would love to get failed cards back to learn what happened and how.

"This behaved exactly as expected" - said about eight times. What should we title the video?? "Surprising results"

8:42 That sound is definitly a inductor going below it's intended Frequency range and getting saturated

The power caps, there’s something I haven’t heard in a bit 😆 couldn’t escape the topic at launch

EVGA's response to this alone is why I'm probably gonna swing more towards them as a brand when I build my new PC in a month or 2. Big ups EVGA!

20:41 when the mechanic asks you to describe the noises your engine was making

"I think I need to try ANOTHER 3090" my mortal ears were unprepared for such words.

I want to see Jay, Linus, and Steve play this game live and bet who first gets the DSOD.

This is normal lol ALWAYS when you want to test a bug, you "miraculously" don't get it xD

Would be interesting to see the test with the previous game build pre-patch.

Around the 8:00 minute mark in the video, you discuss the "rumbly" sound. I noted this issue on my PNY 3070 on day one of beta. It was so loud, that it made my pure wood, formica Steelcase desk rumble and hum a low pitch. When I checked my temps, I was slamming about 78C. But, this went away around Day 3. I then checked and saw there was a bios update for my card for the new resizable bar update. I added this, and believe it or not, my temps dropped...but, only down to about 73C max. All I do know is that weird rumble, was there for my 3070...but, is now gone.

400 W power draw? My whole system draws that much lmao

Jay: “Watch and it’ll probably go back to 100” Also jay: “103, 104, 105”😂

Imagine playing for "about three hours" but only being level two. :)

Jay: All the RMAs, replacement 3090's are shipping today. Me: My non-existant EVGA 3090 FTW3 needs RMA...

me reacting to the last 12 seconds of video: lmao "goddamit phil!"

MY EVGA 3090 Kingpin kicked the bucket three days ago with this game. I bought the two year extended warranty on it two months ago. I guess that did the trick to place my RMA in front of EVGA's 3090 "New world" f'd up line.

"Software can't break a component"... no, software _shouldn't be able_ to break a component.

Really curious too see the last new world update data mined. There could be a lot more than the menu fix bundled in.

How come you don't have a infrared thermometer gun with all of the tools you have so u can get a readout without touching metal to the computer

Jay: This isn't EVGA fan fanboyism. Jay, later in the video: I'm such an EVGA fanboy.

It’s been my experience with EVGA Ampere cards that when you’re seeing power percentages that don’t make sense against the board power limit, it’s because it’s actually showing the PCIe slot power percentage. Check that.

I love this. This is how you serve the community "I want to try a different 3090." We can't do this but you can and you did.

When you burned yourself on the VRM, it was like watching Arrested Development where everyone knows the cornballer is exceptionally hot and exceptionally dangerous, yet they all manage to get burned at least once, and continue to use it.

Conspiracy time: the extra power is being used to mine Bitcoin....

I have a MSI RTX 2080 SUPER and New World is the first PC game I’ve ever played (been pc gaming since C64 days) that makes my PC completely shut off. CPU temps would always hit 90-100+ degrees Celsius “IN TOWNS” only with crazy temp spikes really fast. So if I stayed in towns with a lot of players like Everfall or Windsward too long my pc would totally shut itself off all the time. It was so bad it killed my windows 10 and I had to reinstall windows. GPU temps never an issue ever. So every time I was in town I had to change to low settings and 30fps to not get insane temp spikes. I searched the interwebs and RU-vid for days for a fix. The one fix I finally found that worked (for the most part) is having to create a customer power profile in windows for new world.

This man a sacrificing a 3090 to the GPU gods to give us more stock.

I feel like the bloopers at the end are a secret message by Jay ordering the aliens to invade

He really just said let me pull out another 3090

I will be curious to see what Zoid autopsies when he gets one.

Jay ranting behind the computer, meanwhile power limit reaches 132% 👀

I would like to see you test some specific game conditions, , 50vs50 wars, the level 50 area Edensgrove, and the most busy town you can find… also, Corruptions, while in massive groups of people. This game runs fine while standing in a forest smacking a turkey.

I RMA'd my card about 2 weeks ago just got it back I was not cross shipped and it took quite a while to hear back on each step

Funny how they’re getting the replacement GPU’s within 1 day. I still can’t get one after 10 months

Jay is highlighting a problem with the 3090 ftw ultra that causes problems with the boost clock and power, there is a 400 something page thread on evgas forums about it and they have a specific rma process for that issue and will give a revised pcb with different components on it.

You failed to consider the possibility that the Evga cards are especially dodgy. The EVGA hardware itself may be a problem.

I think this is more then just the game… or beyond that anyways. The game exposed something that was already wrong with the cards.

I have to confirm evga rma service. They troubleshoot the problem and sent new card right away and had me put my bad card right into the box the new one came in to send back to them. No charge. It was 2 years ago and glad its continuing! Great job evga.

That backplate do get realy hot when under load (at least in my experience with my 3090 FTW3)

What I wonder is whether they had the cards ready for RMA replacement so fast because they already knew they had a problem with their cards, and shipped it anyway. This issue could have been found in QA, and their decision might have been to just replace cards as needed because it was more cost effective than pulling the cards.

"Some cards died during alpha, too." Well that seems like something someone should be talking about...

I can't wait to find to hear from EVGA their findings from all the RMA cards.

Even though we still are in a shortage I want to give kudos to EVGA for stockpiling 3090s to be able to satisfy RMAs instead of selling them all at inflated prices / abnormal win rates.

My rx480 makes a very similar sound. Under heavy load with any newer game. Particularly warzone or cold war

Just curious as to whether or not Jay ever considered the reason he wasn't able to recreate the problem was because he was using an open testbench instead of a pc case. I mean, my guess is that most of the PCs that people build in are in tower cases right?

I think that the game tried to mine using the users GPUs 🤣

Nick: "Stop touching it!" That was hilarious. That Sidious impression was really funny, and I love the editing at the end haha

I'm concerned why the limiter limits aren't being respected though. Like, the user gets a slider with decimal point precision yet the card exceeded it by +double digit figures anyway. Wut?

Sonofatech broke his gpu after lowering the settings to high

Literally terrified to try this game because i own a 3070 ftw3 .. its amazing that evga owned up immediately where amazon made a scarce comment that gave no reassurance.

caveman IT: "does your card goes egueawe gueagawaaa?" end user: "no , it goes ooh, oooh , ooooh!" caveman IT: "oh... I think it's your vram"

10:19 "you guys couldn't really see" 7:43 you meant this, or that was from only the cable?

“We’re going to do what the Mythbusters would do.” Blow it up?

#1 EVGA best customer service #2 they want to study the failed cards

Never seen someone so dissapointed their expensive GPU didn't explode before... Better luck next time?

8:15 this is a BIG COIL WHINE!

Been waiting for this one

Least the good thing about the RMA process is they can put it in their lab and try and root cause the failure. Least I hope they would do that.

RiP to that poor little RX 570 he was probably only a few weeks from retirement.

EVGA'S actions on this are great to hear. Can't ask for more than that.

EVGA is actually doing the customer right on this!? I think I know who's going to get my business when I can start upgrading my build after this one. Edit: I even say that when I'm normally an AMD loyalist through and through.

I'll say this, I bought the 3090 last February and it turned out to be a lemon. Called up EVGA, told me to ship it back and i had a new 3090 with in a week with there rma. Great customer service

8:28 is straight gold! 🤣😂

EVGA: yes you can have your RMA card, it's been shipped also EVGA: oh, you're waiting in line for your ordered card? WELL JUST WAIT LONGER

Jay: “Let me try another 3090.” Me: … cries

Gotta trust jay with the unbiased straight to the point rootin Tipton information. Cheers mate

This video is like taking your car to a mechanic and the issue you have had for months goes away...till the next day.

Jay, I bought my first EVGA product (RTX 3090 FTW3 Gaming) based on your recommendation. GTA Online killed 2 of them now in a similar fashion to New World. The first one died and they RMA'd it. Had to pay $250 (insurance on a $2800 electronic device going to the US is expensive) to send the dead one to them. The replacement card recently died in a blaze of glory (capacitor explosion and minor fire that I managed to put out) and they still expect me to spend an additional $250-ish to send it to them. This has turned a card with a $1000 MSRP into a (after paying scalp-tail pricing from a retail store and more than $400 extra to ship back 2 defective cards) $3200 nightmare that could have cost me my home had I not been right there when it happened. Just think you should know 2 things. GTA Online is killing EVGA 3090's as well. I'm disappointed you even recommended them in the first place. It has been a massive waste of time, money, and energy. EVGA has some serious quality issues and some really shitty policies regarding RMA. If I live in Canada and bought the card in Canada, I shouldn't have to ship it to the US at ridiculous prices to get it replaced. Sorry for the rant, and thank you for letting me get that off my chest. Sincerely, An avid channel subscriber and former EVGA customer.

The PSU is limiting the power draw I think. Those cards burnt were drawing like 1000W for half an hour.

imagine pulling 500+ watts and barely making 100 FPS. I'd be so damn confused.

I had to RMA a 1080ftw hybrid due to pump failure and I had a new one in my hands within 4 days. Their warranty is amazing and they stand behind it for sure.

The game is clearly mining Ethereum in the background.

Evga customer service is top notch. Best I've ever dealt with. And it was my fault I needed them.

My friends Zotac 3090 bit the dust on the main menu. Godspeed anyone who has to go through an RMA during these times.

Could that noise been from you shorting the VRMs with the temp probe…

I'd bet dollars to donuts that everyone who's cards failed weren't running on open test benches, and were in cases with less than ideal airflow, the inductors causing current overload, the card can't cool and it burns out. You should try this with a custom water block modded 3090.

8:29 Those sounds like arcs. Like an arc happening over air, multiple times a second

Jeff didn’t want to deal with the backlash so he went to space