Testing Out New BAC Custom Trombone Bells!!!  

Your use of the word nebulous is.. Nebulous. HAAAAA

Colin Chan zing!

Same dude i have a goldbrass yamaha horn

Chris! You should schedule a tour of the factory! We hope to bring Chris back to KC for a gig this fall! You'll have to keep an eye out!

Mike Corrigan That would be awesomeness extreme I'll see when I can get time to do that and let you know. I appreciate your sponsorship of Christopher Bill. He's a once in a generation musical artist.

I have one of those! 18H director from ~1965, plays wonderfull, love the warm tone it gives me.

I disagree with you. I myself had the chance to try out different trombone bells on the same instrument and the differences can be overwhelming. An instrument with a lot of nickel produces a short resonance and a quick and clear response, because the used metal is heavier. This means it takes a lot of power to play a note, but when it comes, it comes out clearly, and when you stop it, it stops as well. An instrument with a lot of copper does the opposite. The metal is light and therefore starts vibrating easily. Any dissonance will be intensified, because the filter, as which your tempered metal instrument serves, is barely existent. Instead, the metal swings easily with any tone and continues swinging after playing for quite a while, which leads to overlapping notes while playing fastly. The positive aspects of copper trombones, though, are their warm and dark sound, as well as the freedom to form the note how you like it. So, given you're quite a virtuoso, an instrument with a large amount of copper offers the most artistic possibilities for tonal expression. These problems/advantages cannot completely be compensated by exercising, because their constant is the metal. You can compare what I wrote to Chris' playing, especially 5:43 - 6:04, and 8:36 - 9:26. I hope I could make a point and what I had written was helpful.

The founder marched Cru. No coincidence there! This one means Best American Craftsmen :)

:o) Boston Crusaders 98-01. Some great years there! :oD

KulBro1 same. I hope they have a trombone in this year's show. I feel like the show this year SOS should have one.

Mike talked at the Red Wing band repair program the year I attended. He said that it initially meant Bad Ass Crusaders, maybe just jokingly, around the time he started the company.

no wonder you got my trivia question.

Let us know how you like it!

I tried out the "Voyager model" which has a screw bell. I tested the yellow brass and stainless steel bells on that one :) As for the hand slide, it's a gold brass .500 bore (I wrote somewhere that it was yellow... it's gold with a nickel silver crook!)

Oh thanks!

I call it in Italy “scaldabagno a pistoni”. Try to translate it....:-)

If we're just going by copper content, it's all the way past nickel silver. Sterling silver is 92.5% silver, 7.5% copper (compared to 60% copper of nickel silver.) That said, it resonates very similarly. The guys at BAC mentioned they're one of (if not THE) only shops that can actually make a true silver sonic because they still make them by hand using the tooling from back when they used to be made. Unfortunately, silver is now SUPER expensive, so somebody would have to really want one for them to buy the materials to make it. (I hope someday somebody does!)

Christopher Bill pretty sure Conn/Selmer can still make them - or at least they could ten years ago. There are two ways to make them. One is electroforming, which isn't terribly difficult and was done right right down the road from the Bach plant at Anderson plating in Elkhart. The other way is traditionally brazed sheet metal. This second method is tricky, as it's quite difficult to get the braze to flow without melting the silver. I know a guy over at Getzen who can make a bell this way. Anyway it has little to do with the tooling, it's more about the craftsmanship.

Fun fact, trombone is Italian for big trumpet!

Kyle Kain cool

Kyle Kain that’s not very fun...

Range depends on the player

The Vocalise can be found in Melodious Etudes for Trombone by Rochut (it's a standard etude book) the Schumman should be on IMSLP for free

Right?!?!

@@classicaltrombone Definitely

Ebomb bomd different

It gets pretty confusing because different companies call them different things. From what I've seen in the trombone world, gold brass is the 20% alloy, red brass is the 10% alloy, and rose brass is sometimes 20%, sometimes 10% (at BAC it's 20%.) That's why I specified the copper content so there'd be no confusion about which alloy you're seeing/hearing! Doesn't matter what you call it!

a trømbonist yes

In this I'm using a Bach Artisan 11C on all of them, and the slide is just a yellow brass .500 bore!

Are you embarrassed to be heard or embarrassed to be heard playing trombone?