Keep in mind that we designed this primarily for the commercial market. We understand there are tons of airbikes out there, but durability is really an issue with this product in the commercial space where it gets used aggressively over and over. We worked directly with a large commercial chain to meet their needs for this product. #dontquitever
Anything with a computer screen is too much lol. Bars, steel, and a select few machines will always be my preference. I hope most people feel that way too.
I agree, until we get to the point where longevity and reliability are near the same. Tonal seems like a great light option but other than weight/movement limitations, it's just a matter of time before a better option comes out. Too much tech that can fail as well, taking down the entire system. And... resale isn't going to be easy ever, and probably depreciated greatly vs. iron as the technology ages.
Conceptually very cool. Price wise too impractical for most people, also there is something that feels more human about moving big heavy things up and down that I think I'd miss with something like this
The first equipment(arx) is bs. It force you to do 2-3 reps with a lot of pressure when the key is to do more reps with constant tension.dont overcomplicate it. Modern equipment but without any screnn is the way
I worked as a trainer for ARX back in its early days! There is nothing that compares to how much muscle fatigue it makes. It has a ton of rehab potential as well. We would have clients who couldn’t perform the free weight version of a movement but could completely pain free do the same motion on the ARX. Glad to see the boys getting some notice! Thanks coop!
I can understand the value for rehab, since the subject can exert as little effort as is comfortable. As far as the deeper fatigue for strength/muscle training, is that necessarily better? When one trains to failure on MedX, they can no longer move the set weight; call that '100'. ARX allows the subject to keep working at '99' to '0'; there's no such thing as failure, (unless one's insane enough to not be able to move AT ALL). I'd think this'd require more days off than usual, thus negating the effect of the deeper fatigue. There's also the matter of functioning in 'real life' after the workout. Deeper fatigue than what's done with MedX could have a negative effect on work & recreation.
@@shadygaming6523 I take a nap after a heavy "BigFive" to failure@90-120 seconds + assisted extensions, SuperSlow on MedX, & can't handle another full-intensity session for a week. When I did 90 second sets on ARX "Big Three" SuperSlow, I needed more than a week to do it again. MedX's effect on fast twitch muscle@90seconds to failure is comparable to ARX's@20 seconds.
I used to work at NASA and we had a similar test to the ARX system we had test subjects preform all the way down to the computer system that monitored the progress. The only difference was it was a flat bench w bar and this was way back in the mid/late 2000s. Crazy how they always find a way to adapt the technology to the general public
@@lukehobbs3177 I can’t speak on what they have at the ISS but we did use the technology to monitor the strength of research participants prior to, during and after completion of our studies
@@tomhearns4770 ARX drags you through the negative, and tracks your strength progress. However, push-ups, if properly performed (slow, controlled motions to deep inroading, and no rep-counting), can substitute nicely for an ARX chest press.
@@GarageGymReviews I can’t decide between a rogue sml-1 or a rep pr 1100, I like the functionality of a rack but I don’t know if the quality will be as good.
@@GarageGymReviews Cooper, another great video. How does the torque air bike compare to other air bikes like the rogue echo and assault bike? Thank you in advance.
I think it just moves at a certain pace no matter how hard you push, and then it measures the force you produce so you know what you are doing, and have stats to analyze and stuff. But I think you could totally barely push if you wanted to skimp on your training. Getting the weight up or seeing the graph go higher is pretty different, not sure what I'd prefer as motivation
@@frydac 1/Yes, you can slack-off. How it actually happens: You're pushing as hard as you can, working harder than ever before in your life, so you figure it's ok to back-off a little mid-3rd rep. BUT THEN, you see a dip in your effort on the monitor, & make a point to never let it happen again.2/The difference between the weight & the graph: Your exhibited strength at the ARX leg press's extension is going to be *at least twice* what you've *ever* lifted. . Why not challenge your true potential?
Love this simply because most people I've ever seen in a gym or online never control the Eccentric portion of their movements. I think it's such an important area to focus on, and the ARX machine doubles down on it!! You can't cheat or slack. You have great eccentrics on every rep with good ROM too!
You *can* slack. You can't cheat on the speed, but you can back-off your effort as much you choose. Those who prefer ARX prefer hard work. Slackers quit ARX after one session
I really hope there's a part 2 to this video, this seems like the ideal playground for more great videos. Even the machines, collars, etc. you were just briefly showing in the transitions looked like they could have an entire video on their own!
I don’t think so bro there was more resistance on the concentric than eccentric and it was “adaptive” throughout whereas with a band the concentric resistance will mirror the eccentric resistance and it will increase the farther away you go
Ya with you 100%. So much of technology nowadays is completely unnecessary. Its a gimmick in the fitness game. Because when shit starts breaking down then the makers will earn more by sending out people to fix shit. Unless the machine is making you immortal or something i dont see what you’re getting back for your $40 G’s
@Patrick N exactly. Besides imagine all the equipment you could buy for 45k. You would have one serious gym and i also dont want to feel like i need a computer science degree just to turn a machine on to do a workout 😂
I think we all learned this when Rocky beat Drago. The tech is cool especially for athletes to see the output they are producing for science purposes. -Mike, GGR Community Manager
Coop! You should get a booth the same dimensions as a two car garage and show the world what you could fit inside and achieve in the world of garage gyms!
the cowboys have a room of this kinda tech; it's enough to make you drool always get the reps in, able to train the stronger portions of the motion in the same stroke as the weaker, able to safely accelerate rehab, the list goes on...
Isokinetics have been used mainly in research for quite a few years. I could see this used in a clinical setting in a cool way. A good way to objective data and train patients the most efficient way
The definition of isokinetics, speed-based resistance, is too broad to account for the developments in its technology. Early isokinetics required the subject to move quickly to register effort; the faster one moved, the higher the effort. A moderate, not-all-that-slow rep wouldn't turn the machine on. Modern isokinetic machines use large motors, w/power to hold a constant speed that can't be overcome by any human. The attempt to speed the positive rep, & stop the negative, along w/a computerized monitor, allows the subject,(if they put forth their full effort), to see their available strength throughout every inch of every rep. The strength one has when near extension, (positive & negative), on the first rep of an ARX leg press is astounding, possible NO other way.
The ARX concept is REALLY, REALLY interesting to me. I mean, I'm that one guy who loves the "old school, raw lifting in a rusty garage" idea of training, but I can see that this machine is bringing something new, functional and that you can't achieve in any conventional way. I mean, I came into this video expecting (respectfully) a bunch of "optimal" crap that only works in very specific scenarios. But that machine impressed me, I can see it making it's way into training if they manage to get down the price to a reasonable point.
Coop, great video BUT I want to see everything you guys recorded. I'm sure the editing wont be as sleek but I still would love to see everything you tried out or even looked at.
Rope equipment driven by servo motor is definitely the future trend. It can optimize the best force curve for individuals. And you can accurately measure your performance. At the same time, It can be easily integrated with other IT systems with built-in AI algorithms.
Coop! Do you think you could put on/ organize a home gym event like this on your own? Or maybe have a home gym yearly awards in the future? Awards could be most innovative product, best cardio equipment, best strength and on and on. Anyways do what you do it's great stuff keep up the great work sir.
No surprise that they are insanely expensive. It's a go to market strategy - target the luxury/high end commercial market with your gimmick product (that will be used far less than a barbell) and make a high margin on a low volume. It's also the kind of strategy that dies when the funding drys up. Unless they have other product lines I could see these things being out of production in 5 more years.
@@apeekintime it all depends on the scaling really, whether the price of production for this type of machine drops fast enough for either competitors to make it to market or for these guys to saturate the luxury market and start having to drop price to stay profitable
Tensile strength has 0 to do with how much a bar will bend which is determined by cross section and Young's modulus. Young's modulus is basically the same for all steel.
It would be interesting to see a top level professional strongman or powerlifter try that ARX machine to see if it can truly give back everything someone can give it.
You mean is anyone strong enough to break the motor &/or drive mechanism. I doubt it; obviously there are available motors that are stronger than any human. If ARX doesn't already have such a motor, they could install one. QUESTION: Why hasn't the likes of Brian Shaw already tried ARX? Who knows? It could be the "secret weapon" that gives him the 5th WSM trophy he's been chasing for years.
I am from Germany… Can someone tell me, whether in America CoVid is over? No one is wearing a mask, and everyone is giving hands each other.. Can someone tell me? 😅
Coop @8:30 when you’re riding that bike. Behind you is the med ball storage and pull up station. You know if that’s available or what it’s called. THATS something I would want for my home gym. Thanks. Happy holidays
I know in the future I'm going to be torn between my love for weights and some of the new computer controlled cable machines. When they build one that integrates with my rack and doesn't have a monthly subscription, I'm in.
The virtue of ARX can also be a downside: Accommodating resistance allows the user to finish a set, no matter how little strength they have left; IE: there is no failure. The user has gone past what'd be failure w/an objective resistance. Thus, over-training's a possibility.
@@GarageGymReviews it was insane. I haven’t been that sore in a very long time. This gym had a bunch of different equipment though. They had a separate machine for chest press, flues, lat pulldown leg press, everything. I can definitely see the application for this in the future but it won’t be implemented that widely until it becomes more affordable.
I'm 83 years old. I've seen countless things in my life, and I've only ever learned one hard and true, undeniable fact of life: Never, ever under any circumstance trust a man wearing red tinted glasses.
I think people are going to get caught up in “technology lifting” in the future and always try to find a easy way out which lead to a decrease in good looking muscle and strength, barbells and dumbbells with compound movements will always be superior because of how they make you stabilize other smaller muscle groups. All of these high tech lifting machines and isolated movements.
An Olympic barbell, calibrated metal plates (my preference), an adjustable bench and a power rack is all that you need to build strength. Chase strength, aesthetics will follow suit. Don't need fancy equipments and technology
@@craigjomaia I think you misunderstood what I said. I didn't said you don't need anything. I said you NEEDED an Olympic barbell and some free weights. The same could be said about cars and shoes. You can get the work done in $30 shoes and a second hand Toyota too. You don't need fancy shoes like Air Jordans and fancy cars like Lamborghini
They had electricronic machines like this with the positive / negatives 20 years ago at a Bally's gym. They didn't have screens and were alot smaller. They were amazing because the negative is almost impossible to do without help. The gym got rid of them because they broke too often.
I'm a free weights kinda guy but I have to say that some of these machines are definitely sick. I'd love to try to arx but doubt that at the current price point any average gymbro is going to buy it. The oxefit all rounder is definitely my favorite out of them all. Expensive but great addition to any high-tech gymgoers gym. Doubt we'll se much of it in commercial gyms though
It’s be more meaningful to say that ARX moves , very slowly, with 10,000 lbs of force, and the computer monitors how much of that you ADD on the positive rep, and SUBTRACT from the negative.
1:25 "So it's you verses a machine, a motor." It's you verses gearing. The motor makes it dynamic, but the gearing provides most of the resistance (or force, in the case of a negative rep).
i dont recall the guy from ARX asking coop if he has any shoulder or chest issues (or high blood pressure),before jumping into such extreme exercise (since coop has no idea what to expect)
You can make a home version of ARX with an electric hoist/winch and a crane scale to measure the tension. I’ve made one at it’s simplest form with a 2000kg force hoist. I push against it as hard as I can and it will “match” my force. Apart from the fancy force graph, there’s nothing special about the ARX.
Most people dont know how to make it and i would trust machine made by a company more than DIY project. Im not saying that your project is useless, more like ARX isnt useless
Does anyone know where I could find something similar to the pull-up bar/shelf in the background at 8:50? Looking for some improvements to my home gym.
hey Coop im looking for a milatary press/squat rack like they had at my old 24 hour fitness. the olympic bar could be rotated and "claws" would grab the pegs and lockout the weight. the bar traveled up and down along a rail on each side. do you have any idea what this is called and who manufactures them? anyone else know? tyvm much appreciated
I do wonder what would happen with these smart machines in the middle of a press if say the power went out. Maintenance is also something I'd wonder about, updates to software, etc. Too many moving parts = more things to break. Until this gets further developed, which it will; bumpers, bars, and DBs/KBs reign supreme.
You didn't mention one of the biggest selling points of the ARX--they market it as a way to only have to work out for 15 minutes a week (total including rest time) and still make consistent progress in strength gains. You should have asked the guy about his workout routine, I've heard him discuss it and it's insane how little time he spends working out.
ARX had a Chicago showroom-training facility. Long gone. 1xwk, 90sec sets, (ie, 3 slow reps), x 3 exercises: chest press, pulldown, leg press. 4.5 minutes of work. Cooked, done. If I'd done 2xwk, fatigue would've impacted my effort c30%. If ARX had stayed in Chicago, I'd do 1x2wks by now.
ARX is similar to metered isometrics, (iso-chain, 1RepGym...); you push/pull as hard as you can, against an immovable object, & the meter tells you how hard you pushed or pulled. The big difference: The object that YOU can't move, moves on its OWN, so you can work full range, for reps, & get readings for every inch of every rep, positive & negative. /// I have 2 questions: 1/With recent studies showing that isometrics, DO, in fact, strengthen the entire muscle, is movement really necessary? 2/If a subject exerts full effort through a set, isn't there a good chance of over-training? I'd think 1 rep'd be best, but this isn't what ARX is recommending.
THey market it such that they say you would need a very small amount of time on the machine to get strength gains - I believe 15 min/week/muscle group including rest
@@youareaspook5897 1min press+1min pull+1min leg press is plenty. A subject who wants max cardio benefit could finish in 5 min. Also, for those who prefer to work 2or3xWk; it's not a bad idea to do only 1 exercise per session.
