TF2 Loadouts I was Wrong About 

"Every once in a great while" Come on man, you could have said "once in a *great blue* moon"

I like to play Spout. I use the backscatter for the pseudo backstabs, the bonk as a pseudo dead ringer, and the atomizer so I can triple jump and for taunt killing while bonked. It’s really the greatest loadout of all time.

Antipyro: Stock Flamethrower (because we don't have an airblast centric primary yet...), Manmelter, amd Axtinguisher, just puttin' out fires and nothing more. Bonus: Add Brigade Helm Hazmat Headcase and Trickster's Turnout Gear!

Fun fact with the thermal thruster, landing beside somebody does a bit of knock back. Time that with an air blast and they combine, blasting people SIGNIFICANTLY further, sometimes to the skybox.

I may have missed it but one thing worth mentioning with the Eureka effect is even if it's being sapped you can still teleport to your teleporter which can really catch the spy who sapped it off guard.

My favorite Pyro loadout is Backburner, Thermal Thruster, and Back Scratcher The flank play style works well with the boosted health kits and if you time your rake swing to landing on an enemy’s head you can oneshot 175 HP classes It’s a stupid Trolldier, and I love it dearly

The manmelter + dragon's fury is an insanely fun combo when you get used to using the manmelter as a primary weapon. You can effectively 2 shot 6 of the 9 classes before they react while also being able to extinguish teamates which is something the dragon's fury struggles with on its own.

I am Pyro. I became real.

Brass Beast or Natasha heavy. If you ever played TF2 when it came out, the brass beast is how heavy used to play. The extra damage is funny, and can lead to a close range scout being oneshotted by your massive damage output, but what really makes it strong is the damage reduction it gives. If you eat a chocolate bar beforehand, it takes a demo 5 direct pipes to take you out, and you can survive a fully scoped headshot or 3 quickscopes. When your damage threshold is 2 bigger than people expect, funny things happen with how they play.

Crit-a-cola & Shortstop is brain-dead fun that finally makes use of Shortstop's accuracy by disabling damage fall-off. Slap on Wrap Assassin for up to 153 dmg on direct bauble hits (dmg varies). As someone that prefers playing farther away, this offers a fun alternative scout playstyle.

As someone who exclusively plays backburner centric playstyles on pyro i feel detonator, when used optimally, allows the backburner to flank much easier and also gives long range damage (outside of the stomp) and i've also found the thermal thruster is much easier to snipe against than the burst mobility of the detonator

As a tc2 play, i bring you “The trollerman” -Base jumper -Sticky jumper -ulupool caber It’s like trollgier, but worse

The creativity of playstyles is what has kept me playing TF2 for so long. I run Black Box and Ninjaneer pretty regularly. But I always strive to try new things. My favorite recent discovery is the Dalokah's bar and GRU combo. There's a glitch that if you eat the bar after draining your max health, your max health will recover extremely quickly. Plus, I realized that it's actually one of the best "Boxing Heavy" loadouts. If you always keep yourself buffed with the bar, and then whip out the GRU when you spot an enemy, you can really punch out a lot of classes.

Healthy-weight Scout: Soldier with a rocket jumper, panic attack, and market gardener. If you're decent with rocket jumps you retain the insane mobility outside of fights and your large health pool makes up for the lack of it within fights. Since you can divebomb pretty much any fight at minimum cost with the rocket jumper, the panic attack works best as it lets you make the most of suddenly getting all up in someone's grill. The market gardener is there as a weapon of opportunity since you're using the rocket jumper anyways.

GunSpy is surprisingly fun. I know everyone kinda hates Spy in more ways than one, and pairing the Deadringer and Spy-cicle together has gotten me kicked out of a few lobbies, but being able to turn a class based on stealth into a balls to the wall pick class is really fun. Octo's video on the matter helped me see what you can really do with the loadout and after trying it myself, I liked it a lot. Everyone kinda views the Deadringer as a get out of jail free card but you can pretty much use it like a parry mechanic. Using it mid-fight to tank a hit and continue dishing damage. And the Spy-cicle turns one of the worst matchups into a winning one, provided you hit your shots. It's one of my preferred playstyles and really made me value the stock revolver in all my loadouts.

these Tf2 loadouts always seemed like a strange case to me

my opinion on weapons in TF2 have always seemed like a strange case to me. On one hand if you hate how a weapon works and hate how it looks it's nice to have another option to choose from. But on the other hand, opinions usually change with starting to like them even though they would would function differently from their counterpart. And I've always thought it would be neat if cool looking weapons like the sun-on-a-stick had more of an identity than "Its the f2p scout melee" So I took a large number of weapons currently available in the game and gave them a rating ranging from "Slightly modified sidegrade to the original" to "wrecks the playstyle"

9:53 Nailgun Scout (Medic subclass): overdose, either krietzkrieg or quick fix but i recommend quick fix, and amputator/or solemn vow if you end up picking krietzkrieg. let me explain: this subclass is like when scout meant to have a nailgun as his stock primary but the whole idea got scrapped, well... now you can play nailgun scout (as medic) now! since overdose lets you have faster movement speed depending on ubercharge precentage. kritzkrieg makes much more sense since it has +25% uber rate here... BUT, people might get more angry you wasted krietzkrieg's uber more rather than on quick fix, since quick fix's uber is... not the best to say at least. and amputator for healing since you wont be healing from youre primary or secondary... UNLESS you do choose krietzkrieg wich lets you heal on taunt, then i suggest going with solemn vow since when you can see enemies health, youll be able to plan youre attacks, whenever its worth it or not to demolish that guy, if he has high or low health and ect.

The beggining of the video sounds like an ai imitating great blue

I feel like it's trite to bring up in a discussion of underappreciated weapons, but the Your Eternal Reward is so much fun especially if you like a killstreak playstyle. People love to talk about the silent kill and stuff, but honestly the disguise on kill is actually super effective if you know how to act like the class you've disguised as. Nothing feels quite as rewarding as getting a backstab, having enemies look directly at at you, and then chainstabbing them because you play your part well

One of my favorite loadouts is the liberty launcher + the buff banner, I call it the Splash Solider. You can also use a market gardener as a melee to build the banner charge faster.

Watching a Great Blue video is like opening a Christmas present, you open it while knowing that you won’t get another one in 12 months.

I really think you should make a video on One Thousand Uncles in the future, it's such a unique community game mode and I think you'd like it. Possibly a class tier list?

i use the BackScatter (positional mini crits!!! [its good]) and the Bonk, and the Wrap Assasin (its good) WA helps with lack of range and ammo of BS, and BONK helps you get places and back out with more security (its good) , the Winger is also a good choice for the ammo and range issue, and to get places. (its good)

Not exactly breaking ground here, but Loose Cannon + Tide Turner + Half-Zatoichi is one of the most fun loadouts I have ever tried. Use the loose cannon to jump and soar across the map and pick people off using your sword and shield, all while healing off the damage you took from cannon jumping. Loose Cannon my beloved.

I really like dragon's fury + jetpack, similar to backburner, jetpacking onto enemies lets you use the benefits of the weapon to great degrees and I also think the fury as a whole is a super underrated and a fun and unique way to play pyro

elmaxos liberty launcher setup, with liberty launcher, panic attack, and garderner. basically it allows you to effectively play combo soldier, you give up some aoe, for a much more effective 1v1 roaming soldier. liberty gives you an extra rocket compared to stock meaning more movement stuff plus u take basically the same amount of self damage as gunboats stock, panic attack fast switch makes comboing easier offsetting the damage nerf on liberty , and market garden panic attack breaks the 300 damage threashold so u can consistly kill heavys.

I mean its not a crazy underground loadout but i personally love maining the loose cannon using the eyelander + charge and targe. The insane buffs from the targe and 4 heads makes it super fun to get on massive killstreaks (if you can hit your donks). Personally I feel like the loose cannon is meant to hybrid with because of its more lengthy, but more rewarding shots that force you to have it deployed instead of a sticky launcher. And whenever I launch someone in the air i charge at them and even if you are no where near them they're typically low enough to get with one chop.

the thermal thruster has always seemed like a blast that + back burner I never thought about before

The whole part about the black box felt like a blue-ball when your conclusion was to use banners. Shotguns on Soldier can be fun as hell. One of my favorite loadouts for Soldier is rocket jumper+panic attack. I call it "Fit Scout."

100 player servers are great for trying new guns, suddently the amputator y really good, kinda rival to the ubersaw when you have to heal another 49 people, the machina becomes a better sniper, there is a lot of variety

Weapon loadouts that are now fun to Great Blue have always been a strange case to me

Back with the old Baby Face Blaster, I loved running it with the Wrap Assassin and Guillotine. The range they had was great when your meter was empty since the reduced speed made it harder to close the gap, and landing a hit with either them gave a fair amount of instant boost. The bleed was nice for building extra speed as you go in, you could jump/double jump and let the bleed, or for extra damage as you used the speed to focus on dodging or running away. The Wrap Assassin and Cleaver are fun and satisfying to use and all 3 weapons complimented each other while also enabling the other.

I sometimes play a combo soldier loadout (Liberty Launcher And Panic Attack) I dont really care which melee but its fun for close range combat and keeps you on your toes.

What's really fun us actually playing liberty launcher + the equalizer surprisingly, I found that the extra rocket jumping potential with the LL you could get in, take enough damage from the rocket jumping to do significant damage with the equalizer, then get out, it's really good against medics who have uber ready somehow, one of those oddly fun playstyles. Pair something like the buff banner with it to make the equalizer even more ridiculous.

Out of topic,You should bring the x10 tierlists back since scout,sniper and medic have some really good options

I've seen a few of the top comments mention the Man Melter and I agree with them about giving it a shot, but something interesting I learned about it is that it is the flaregun that's shot travels the fastest of them all meaning you have to aim a bit differently with it compared to other Flareguns. Just something to keep in mind.

I’ve been using the back burner and jetpack for a while, and I really like it. Get in, torch something, get out. I also sometimes like bringing a home wrecker to quickly knock out a teleporter and dispenser while I’m at it. Most people would think to use the home wrecker as a babysitting pybro. This doesn’t change that much since it’s still a bad idea to use it against sentry guns, but quickly knocking out support buildings is pretty handy if you can quickly get to them. Otherwise a back scratcher, power jack, or axtinguisher is never a bad idea for the flying flank pyro.

one of my favorite combos is hue long heater and the family business. the lower damage may take a bit to get used to but most the time using the shotgun like a primary and the hue long when you need to turn a corner is really fun. payload maps with the heater are good too because you just get infinite ammo on the cart. but playing a flank heavy, that has an ambush mechanic if you get right on top of the enemy is really fun

i use to also be combo pyro but i switched to flank pyro after learning how to flare jump with the detonator and now i run backburner detonator and powerjack theres some fun spots with flare jumps that benefit pyro more than other classes

The Force-of-Nature really lets you do some fun flanks as scout on many maps

ive used the backburner/jetpack/backscratcher loadout since the jetpack came out lol, because the backburner limits you to 3/4 airblasts it forced me to learn airblast timing better and where the health kits are in every map

I’ve been loving Backburner + Thermal Thruster so much for a long time so it’s great to see it getting some representation.

5:24 its hilarious how casually the demo got telefragged and no acknowledgement of it is made

Liberty Launcher + Gunboats + Market Gardener is some of the most fun I have had in a video game, let alone TF2. It really is just trolldier but with the ability to actually do things other than market garden, and I've grown so attached to the Liberty Launcher in the past year or so that I now find its lack of damage to be charming and a part of the weapon's identity.

Backburner and TT is a hood classic

believe it or not there is a rather new video from a small tftuber all about the back burner

BFB and cleaver is still super fun to use imo. You can use the knife for easy boost before engaging or toss it after losing boost to regain it for a quick escape. On top of that, it really forces you to up your footsie game as scout.

I absolutely LOVE the quicky bomb launcher, it basically lets you roleplay as a artillery cannon. Open Maps like swift water, bad water, and upward the fast charging speed and increased damage on charge means you can ruin some horribly unfortunate sniper’s day☠️☠️☠️

I really recommend cleaver and wrap assassin on scout, the range is great, I love to pair it with the force a nature to finish off targets and the mobility is invaluable but I'm sure you could use soda popper if that's more your style

Recently got my hands on a professional killstreak Sydney Sleeper, and I gotta say, Sydney Sleeper/Jarate/Bushwhacka is surprisingly fun. The second two are fairly obvious, but Sydney Sleeper not only turns you into more of a support class, letting teammates deal with enemies faster and helping you extinguish them, it also still lets you be useful if you whiff and hit a bodyshot adding minicrits teammates can make use of on top of the 50 damage. Oh, and it's unbelievably fun to flank, quickscope someone and crit them in quick succession, while you save Jarate for trickier situations.

I ironically started using the penis scout load out (backscatter, mad milk, Boston basher) but actually found it had a niche with team fights. Mad milk is a great buff for your team and the backscatter is a great distraction from your allies. If they shift theyre attention to you, your teammates get to shoot at them with less risk of dying. If they ignore you, you can get around to the back and drop them pretty quick. Plus if they turn around to flee, you can finish them off quickly. The Boston basher is my least favourite part but it helps with building Uber, which can really change the outcome of a game.

The biggest upside of the eureka effect is the mobility. I love it in 5 xp, as I can keep up at least level 1 teleporters at all times while shifting a sentry to where it is needed.

Recently fell in love with blutsauger battle medic. Got 300 kills with it today. Its like aiming a mortar and is just strangely addicting for me. Like there is something comical about managing kills with it. It's not good by any means but I literally don't wanna play anything else.

If I ever got on just to screw around and have some fun I always found the cleaners carbine + bushwacker was really fun, especially when people don't expect you to charge at them and 195 them.

YES! The ninjaneer widowmaker is my favorite Engineer playstyle, feels so fun, fluid, and deadly

Idk what kind of effect the thumbnail has, but i love that style

My really weird Scout one is Shortstop Crit-a-cola Candy Cane They all somehow just work as a mid range alternative

The Eureka Effect is a super, super amazing wrench. It's effective and fun. I love it.

I like stock flame and either backscratcher or stock axe paired with thermal thrusters

Man, it was good to see my loadout in this video (Backburner, thermal thruster & powerjack)

I rediscovered how fun the Jetpack-Backburner combo can be from watching old Muselk videos (been awhile since he's been a TF2 RU-vidr huh?). And what makes the combo even better is incorporating the Powerjack in order to make the ultimate mobile Pyro. Not only does the Jetpack allow you to fly around with ease, but the extra movement speed (and occasional health on kill) make a mobile little menace that is hard to kill and has been the most fun I've had with Pyro recently

I remember when i started playing the game, i would go demoman with booties, sticky jumper and the skullcutter. Its genuinely a lot of fun on 2fort, and i got some memey kills on upward.

I would recommend the overdose and quick fix. Fast paced medic gameplay where you run around healing and avoiding all enemies is fun

You should try the detonator with the backburner, its in general alot more versatile then the thermal thruster having much more ammo, more control during jumps, and its much better for stealth as its quiter, great for ambushing

I like using the dragons fury with the panic attack, as when i air blast, i switch to the panic attack, so im always doing consistent damage while i wait for the dragons fury to finish its delay

ctf soldier: liberty launcher, gunboats and maybe escape plan. Extra rocket and almost non existent self damage (even pre firing rocket to avoid fall damage) is a really fun combination if you really in to rocket jumping.

I recently found that I actually enjoy playing soldier when I use a shotgun instead of a banner/boots in secondary. It's probably the engineer main reflexes but I just really prefer to have the safety of a close-to-mid hitscan weapon

I don’t use it often but the big earner and the dead ringer is always a refreshing way to play spy when I get bored of the normal stuff

Dragon's Fury + Scorch Shot/Detonator is the most fun playstyle in this and probably any game, at least for me.

I love playing fat scout when our team is better than the enemy team. I can still tryhard and not feel bad about it.

I have not reached a high level of playing spy yet, but L'etranger, Big Earner, and the Dead Ringer makes playing spy more fast paced and aggressive since the speed boost you get on backstab with the big earner can lead to potential big chain stabs. Plus, getting cloak back on hit with the l'etranger and big earner can quickly recharge the dead ringer, so you can keep feigning death with the speed boost, combined with the big earner speed boost becomes a playstyle I like to call: "The Speedy Spectre"

Could you try the: Baby faces blaster, since it’s boost can make you really hard to hit, mixed with the crit-a-cola, because the mini-crits dramatically contribute to your boost, and the Boston basher since it’s bleed chip damage also contributes to your boost, thanks 👍

Mangler+Bison+Zatoichi, The Literal Solo Soldier, doesn't even need the help of pickups!

a combo i use alot is dragons fury, scorch shot, and backscratcher, i go up really close, hit someones feet with the scorch shot to make them fly, and either hit them with the back scratcher or shoot a dragons fury blast at them. this combo i use may not sound very efficient but for the amount of kills and confused players ive gotten from it is kind of funny, i feel like this works is because most players dont know what to do when they start flying in the air, and before they have enough time to react, the dragons fury one shots them, i can one shot light classes with the combo 2 shot pyros and soldiers, and 4 shot heavys. its surprisingly useful edit: basically im a pyro that kills like a spy, spy-pyro... spyro?

My hate for afterburn lead me to my favorite playstyle; Pyro Scout Use Panic Attack as primary weapon (No random spread, quicker deploy time, more controlled precise shots negate the loss on accuracy) Degreaser as secondary to air blast projectiles, immobilize scouts, and put out teammates (I never use the flame, so ammo isn't an issue, and its quick switch-to/from speed) and Powerjack to quickly get back into the fight or Homewrecker, when on defense, to assist engies

rocket jumper, stock shotgun, market gardener. Having the reliable, high damage of a shotgun with the free mobility of the rocket jumper is, in my opinion, really fucking fun.

I came back to tf2 recently, so i dont have the thermal thruster yet. Instead, i play backburner and detonator ambushes. Detonator doesnt send me to divebombing distance, but it lets me take unexpected flank routes usually limited to scouts, soldiers and demos - but i can still airblast into a lesser combo with the detonator

I've found a real soft spot for playing Spy with the L'Treanger and Big Earner along with stock invis for the sake of consistency. The load out is basically designed to get the most out of your cloak because both your damage dealing weapons give cloak back, and the Big Earner's speed boost can make for some extra exciting escapes. It feels nice to primarily use a knife other than the Kunai, and in fact I've gotten so used to the Earner that playing with the Kunai feels off when I don't get to zoom like Tim Allen after every stab.

The Black Box is _so_ good on flank routes that don't have a lot of health. People insist that "once you learn the map," then you'll just get health from pickups and so the Black Box is a crutch, but a lot of the best flank routes don't have good health pickups. Some only have a small health pack here and there and some have no health pick ups at all (Suijin comes to mind). The Black Box is absolutely nuts if you love holding these routes because it's so hard to 1v1 a Black Box Soldier who is at full health (even _Heavies_ have a problem with this if you actually know how to utilize cover for reloading), which is what you generally have to do if he's on one of those highly underutilized flank routes. And then when you inevitably die to him, he can just spam out some rockets at your team and when you respawn or someone else on your team that's actually competent (good luck) goes to fight him, he's at full health again.

one of my favorite loadouts is the back burner, man melter, and back scratcher

I've also thought to try widowmaker + eureka, since bing soy inspired me to try the dumbest loadouts ever. But using bow + camper set really addictive. Also, full caber-guy (boots + splendid screen shield + caber) is really fun for me aswell. I reccomend to try loch-n-load for demo, (maybe + sticky jumper or tide turner), cuz you have to be skilled with this item and have lots of mobility. For scout, you can use "madcap set" (soda popper for passive hype effect or baby face blaster for double the speed after few hits) + flying guiliotine + wrapper melle or boston basher (just like madcap had), also important to have some face-mask. I saw somewhere that you can use holiday punch laugh hit, but instead of pootis-pow, use huo-long-heater (aim fully up, thats important) to cause burn on laughing enemy.

Carbine + Bushwacka (maybe with Huntsman as primary) is surprisingly fun. You start weaker, but with enough damage you can go on a crit melee rampage. That's just fun.

honestly a loadout I've used recently that came out of left field was brass beast + stock shotgun w/ basically any melee except the eviction notice I'm not exactly a heavy main but I do enjoy playing heavy every now and then and when I do play heavy I normally just play the basic heavy loadout stock/tomislav, sandvich, gru then while playing fat scout I decided midway through a life to try get a funny flank play off so I went on the flank, shotgunned a few scouts and landed with a revved brass beast right behind a medic who I can only assume was on like 90% uber and his pocketed demo I've never seen 410 health disappear that fast from anything other than sniper headshots and spy backstabs and the revved dr made it so I lived long enough to delete them, it's a pretty fun combo if you feel like playing strategically or defensively on heavy just make sure you have your schedule open for the full week so you can rev up without interuptions

Probably a relatively common loadout, but I like running the Force-a-Nature, Bonk! and Wrap Assassin and just heading to enemy backlines to get them as annoyed as possible with me. Enemies angry enough to chase me are enemies not fighting the rest of my team, and both the Bonk and FaN are fantastic tools to get in and out of trouble without much cost. The Wrap Assassin is just kind of there as a bonus - I'd run the Sandman if I had the confidence.

Man, I can't imagine not loving the Black Box. Sure missing out an a rocket is a signficant drawback, but getting extra health back is a huge bonus. Though personally I usually stick with a shotgun to help counterbalance that loss of a rocket.

I've been having a lot of fun with Speed 'n' Bleed scout recently. Getting hit once and losing all your boost does suck, but it's the most fun I've had with any gimmicky Scout loadout.

The flank pyro playstyle has been so much fun to much since forever. Been experimenting with it since I started playing back in 2011. Always got offended when people said it's a bad weapon. I always see them as not using it properly. The thermal thruster just makes it far easier to use it. Also yes it can air blast. If you needed more than 3 air blasts to reflect kill then you aren't good at reflecting

Shortstop,milk,and fan o war is my fav loadout. Plays like an ambush but you can dip really easily, reallly strong against soldier, demos, and unaware heavies.

Dragon's Fury, detonator, extinguisher/hammer. Very good burst damage as well as great mobility for flanking.

I’ve had an odd amount of fun with the rocket jumper, B.A.S.E Jumper, and the pain train, it’s so so stupid but so so fun when you actually get a kill. Embrace the lobotomy, become pain train.

One of my go to loadouts on Pyro has to be DF (Dragon's fury) detonator/cringe shot and backscratcher. The sheer versatility of this combo is practically insane. You can ambush a pocketed heavy, duel him, kill his medic through him, and then escape to the nearest medium hp pack, and do it all over again. If there is a medic on your team, switching to powerjack, and asking for an Uber, will grant you some massive, almost unstoppable pushes.

I mostly play a lot of MVM now a days, but the shortstop is genuinely so much more interesting than people give it credit for in the mode. The shove is useless in PVP, but legit the shortstops shove is just enough to stop your team from failing if a robot with a decent amount of health slips by and you know you cant kill it in time. Just shove it a couple times and buy the precious few seconds you need to survive. Then for medic i exclusive run the Overdose, Vaccinator, and Amputator. The Vaccinator I find is really good in pub games where people struggle to stay alive as if you upgrade Uber time you can basically save the entire team from wiping if a big burst damage comes in (also the multiple ubers make mass revive really easy). The overdose's minor speed boost really helps make sure you can get to people who need you but also makes it that much easier to get out of a bad situation if a teammate you're healing dies from something stupid. The amputators small boost to healing just helps solidify the survivability. This lets me focus on just keeping my team alive even in the middle of everything to keep DPS up by minimizing respawn times and save money on rebuy-ins.

I haven't played TF2 that much, but when I do I have a few weapons in mind: 1. For the Spy - Ambassador, Stock Sapper(I don't have any other sappers), Your Eternal Reword, and Deadringer. I don't have a reason for using the Ambassador or Sapper, but the YER has a silent kill so no-one knows if you killed someone until they use the voice chat. Also, the Deadringer gives you a temporary speed boost and invulnerability. 2. For the Engineer - Frontier Justice, Wrangler, and Gunslinger. I heard from Lazy Purple that if you combine the Wrangler and the Gunslinger, it becomes "A hilariously horrifying sniper." Not to mention the revenge crits you get from the Frontier Justice when your sentry gun goes down. Sorry for the long comment, and if anyone is reading this far, thank you.

The SMG is incredible when paired with the huntsman. The rapid chip damage compliments the 120 damage bodyshot of the huntsman nicely. It lets you take out light classes at a range while keeping your mobility high. The SMG itself is also a fantastic fleeing tool to deter any overconfident chasers, which there are plenty of when you play sniper.

I rarely like playing soldier but lately i've been pairing the beggars bazooka with the panic attack for the ultimate dive bomb machine capable of melting down a heavy in no time. Also liberty launcher and panic attack for the combo playstyle works wonders

6:05 smooth af transition

I like to use the thermal thruster with the dragon’s fury a lot

Man, it's been a long while since I've used the Eureka effect. I used to use it a lot but slowly got dragged into the Gunslinger/Jag crowd. As someone who uses /tp in Minecraft a lot I feel like I'll still love using it.

as someone who likes these "underrated" weapons & weapon combos, i recommend trying out the Your Eternal Reward with the L'etranger and Cloak & Dagger (stock invis watch works too, but sometimes being able to stay in one spot for a second or two longer is a life saver, i know C&D is usually seen as a camping weapon, but in the right hands it's a more offensive invis watch), having to keep your disguises on and having less of a possibility to run away with an invis watch means you have to ACTUALLY rely on your disguises as opposed to just popping out when people don't know that you're there. And hell, i've had plays when the auto-disguise actually helped me blend in. ACTUALLY relying on your disguise as spy is incredibly fun, and disguises aren't as bad as people think - you just have to actually play your disguise out. Ignore when you are being shot at, pretend you're going for a med pack, switch your weapons, etc., etc.