This is my favorite movie and I just found out there is a director's cut. And I couldn't find scenes anywhere online. Howie Long was cut from the movie. I'll post the rest of these up later.
As amusing as it would have been to include a scene revealing that Mr. White had a boy toy in HOWIE LONG, this scene drags on and I can see how it was cut for timing and for not really adding anything to the overall story. The way it was cut in the theatrical release, from flirting at the bar, to the wakeup call is perfect. Leaves the audience as abruptly-awoken and questioning of the evening before, but in too much of a hurry to piece it together, just like Guy.
Perfect example of editing. the scene adds nothing to the narrative (in fact, would distract from it), and the Mr. White character didn't need to be "fleshed out". The character was perfect for the story without introducing anything else. The record company "manager", doing his job, grooming new talent.
I love That Thing You Do! with all my being, but the director's cut is prime evidence of why having a ruthless editor is necessary. It's all fun but it's flabby as hell, and brings a really nice breezy 100-minute film up to 2 and a half hours!
every deleted scene in that thing you do is as awkward as this. I was shocked when watching the director's cut how bizarre it was, and it made me appreciate editing way more.
I saw this again for the first time since it was out and didn't realize it was the directors cut, so I chalked it up to forgot parts or the Mandela effect. Lol.
I believe that this scene was a nod to Brian Epstein. It didn't work, and they made the right decision to cut it... but it's too bad they couldn't have found a place in the cinema version for that fall! Skitch hit the deck and I fell out laughing. Fabulous job by Tom Everett Scott.
Yeah, this scene is not played with the same energy and tone as the rest of the film. There's always a reason something gets cut. But thanks so much for sharing this. This is my favorite movie and I've never seen a deleted scene. (That rhymed...)
Yeah, Howie Long is not known for his acting chops. He starred in one action movie about a fireman fighting forest fires and maybe some bad guys, IDK I never saw the movie. He didn’t get many acting roles afterwards, so it’s safe to say it sucked pretty bad. He was a hell of a defensive end though. I bet sex would get pretty rough with him. Howie could body slam Mr. White into tomorrow. He was a defensive end though, not a “tight end”. Maybe that’s why Mr. White dumped him. He likes his ends tight.
Discovering during the course of the movie that "Mr. White" was gay added nothing to the story about the brief rise and fall of the "WONDERS ,"so it did not make the final cut as seen in the movie theaters. The movie makers and their screenwriters probably thought it would somehow be cool to have Howie Long appear as Hank's "boyfriend". But the scene ended up on the cutting room floor as did hundreds of thousands feet of film that did not make it into the final movie version.
Thanks for the scene! One of my favorite movies, as well. I think the wake up call in the morning was a better scene for the movie than the rest of this scene would have been.
I don't hate the scene, but I'm glad it was cut from the movie. It's inconsequential to the plot as a whole, and really would have done nothing more but add 5 minutes of "this is here because we want it to be here".
Been awhile since I watched the theatrical cut, but I believe Howie is in the beach scene for a brief moment, that's where he and Tom's character meet. As for Tom's character being gay, it's just another play on the Beatles; their manager was gay.
Epstein was gay. But in the early 1960s, he kept his relationships very discreet. Wouldn't have been gallivanting around town in a convertible w/a boy toy for all the world to see. In the later part of the decade, Epstein was more open about it.
I Do Believe they did Us, Themselves, & A Perfect Movie a BIG Favor by Leaving This Scene "On The Cutting Room Floor". Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid !
Knew Hanks' character was gay when he gives some guy with muscles the once over, in the scene where The Wonders are playing Captain Geech and the Shrimp Shack Shooters. It was very subtle.
My guess: Tom Hanks intended this as a reference to The Beatles' manager Brian Epstein. Test audiences however, thought it was a reference to Hanks's earlier role in "Philadelphia."
Bullseye, it is clearly a reference to Epstein. The entire scene clashes with the general tone of the film and is poorly acted as well; wise decision to cut it.
2:10 I do find it funny, that mischievous smile Long gives when he says, "Bring him along." Probably if the showcase wasn't the next day, I can't help but feel Mr White would have said, "why not? Guy, hop in!"
I always figured hanks character in this movie was gay. The way he noticed Jimmy flirting with Diane Dane at the bar, and knew that Guy had a thing for Faye, only a gay dude would have picked up those subtle inferences in the 50/60s. I've never seen this cut before today, but I'm glad my suspicions were confirmed. Hanks did a brilliant job with this movie.
Thank God this never made it in to the final cut. Adds nothing. If you get to watch the full directors cut, a huge number of Tina's (Charlize Theron) scenes were cut as well.
A wise edit as this would have dragged the pacing of this most perfect movie. Not really necessary to have a Brian Epstein angle, we got this is a Beatles-inspired fable.
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It's not Beatle inspired at all, it's about bands like The Knickerbockers, Beau Brummels, The Grass Roots etc being grabbed by major labels out of their garages as soon as they had a local hit, put into matching suits and sent out to pull in as much money as possible while it lasted. Gay managers weren't new with Brian Epstein either, that goes right back to the Rock'n'Roll 50s.
Very heavy scene dealing with themes that need not be explored in this movie that is light and narrowly focused on a limited time span in the 60's. Great move to cut it from the film.
Glad this was cut. For music buffs (which I'm sure there are many out there like me who have seen this movie), this would've been little _too_ obvious of nod to Brian Epstein.
Agree with most here that this lousy scene needed to be cut, but it shows you how hard it is to make a great scene, like the hardware store celebration, for example.
I saw the director's cut of this movie that left this scene in. It would have been interesting to learn Mr. White had a boyfriend, but this scene really felt like it slowed the movie down.
It’s funny, this scene does kinda fit the movie, but by leaving it out it forced us to use our imagination a little bit more allowing us to better connect with the movie.
That's something far too few filmmakers allow for these days - the capacity of the audience to think for themselves, fill in the dots from their imagination, and generally make the movie-watching experience an individualized one.
I prefer the theatrical release over the directors cut because..."There comes a time in every life when that dream you dream becomes that thing you do!"...who wants to write about another's dreams( director's cut)
Thanks. What a great scene. A big surprise! Loved the '77 Sunset Strip' cars, with the Corvette in the background. All they needed was a Cobra... The DC gave us some gifts, and took some away - like where Guy was a jazz DJ, instead of a session man. I also liked the reveal of Ethan's GF. I have seen this movie dozens of times. I was so confused the first time I saw the DC. The early scenes didn't quite seem right! I never knew there was an alternate movie.
I've never seen this movie, but had to check out this scene. Howie talked about it on the Green Light Pod, with his son, Chris. Howie, as a Tab Hunter influenced role? Love it!
The director's cut is unnecessary, but it's fun to get one that is a legit director's cut and adds more than 5 minutes of random extra footage. Here you have whole sequences, subplots, and longer shots than the original. I always liked the one that shows TB Player waking up next to a Chantrelline before opening the door to see the news about the song charting. In the theatrical cut, we only see him open the door, and it's implied he has a crush on the Chantrelline singer, but that's it. Director's cut? The man closed the deal. I'd argue the director's cut inches the film slightly closer to PG-13 than the original.
Christ, all of the armchair directors here... lol. Thank you all for your brave reviews. Clearly you all belong in Hollywood. When you get there, please remember that extra footage of scenes that didn't make the final cut or in every movie. To all of you sitting there at your computer criticizing this scene, relax. I think Mr Hanks knows what he's doing, and made the best decision possible for the film.
Its not usual that I dont like the cut scenes and glad because they explain something else just after. But this one while cute, I see why it doesnt work. The rest of the movie every scene is short and moves as quickly as the band moves up the charts. Tom already told the band about Hollywood showcase on the plane and his character was very influential and confident it just makes sense for the phone call and naturally they would appear. So this scene is fun but rightfully cut in my humble opinion. A little drawn out on the drunk shananigans. Felt more like an inserted physical gag act against all of the witty verbal ones from Leo's character.
I don't remember there ever being a directors cut or a boyfriend but I do remember watching this scene because the drummer yells and passes out. I definitely remember seeing that
First: Rita Wilson was gorgeous… Second: Tom Scott was absolutely not capable of pulling this scene off. His drunk guy act was so over-the-top bad, it was unusable-unfortunately, because Rita was awesome! And GORGEOUS…
@1:42 You can see "Guy" mouthing Tom Hanks when he says "round up your group." I played bass in a pit orchestra for a production of the Sound of Music and the lead male(Von Trapp) did this the ENTIRE show. It was hard not to laugh.
