Darwin powers where comic accurate. He could have easily survived swallowing that energy ball but he took a peek at the future of the franchise and decided that getting burned to a crisp was better than getting butchered over the span of 3 films.
If Darwin got medium awareness to survive, he would've just looked around, noticed he was the only black guy in a 500 mile radius and teleported out of the movie
Teleports to that crappy wolverine origin universe and hangs out with the teleporting guy. Now he isn't the only black guy in the movie and doesn't have to be killed off.
Zach Harris-O'Keefe In comics, there are several universes making up the Multiverse and the greater Omniverse, several of those universes have been wiped away by gods beyond gods known as the abstracts. Darwin can’t survive that. Marvel zombies, Darwin became a zombie and was not able to adapt himself apart from the disease. Darwin also can’t survive the power of the Infinity Gauntlet, the Cosmic Cube, the HOTU and several other cosmic weapons from Marvel. He can’t adapt to everything despite his adaptation being incredible. His movie counterpart is just a weaker version of him
@Aaron DeHaemer Actually... it could potentially happen. Amalgam Comics could come back into the picture where DC and Marvel can go back at it again. Just minus the blending of characters some of that crap was ridiculous. The actual individual DC and Marvel characters fighting was cool. But that being said... Dr Manhatten would have to fight Molecule Man. AND... unfortunately. Molecole Man would clean the floor with Dr Manhatten, because he well aware of his powers and borderline insane.
He became god of death because it was one of the best ways to survive her "touch of death" power. It was still for defence. Hulk didn't punch him yet when his power kicked in. Maybe if Hulk did, he would have developed a defensive adaptation that made him strong enough to survive it (be as strong as hulk). But his power easily saw hulk was dangerous before he was hit. So he teleported.
@@odanemcdonald9874 More like his body recognized the only way to survive the hulk, is to not fight the hulk. Very few beings can stop the hulk, and none of them can best him given enough time. Hulk's a broken character, in that is upper limit doesn't exist. If you keep attacking him, he just goes bigger and badder, until eventually, he wins. Hes a literal plot armor.
@@volterasuccoria month later and to answer your question in the final battle of endgame thanos and his army was dusted. So it can be a joke about endgame
@@Verbally.autistic this was said before endgame came out dude. I watched it two days after it came out, I responded to this way before, so how would he have known that's how it ends.
@@Verbally.autistic unless you're telling me endgame a month ago was already in theaters somewhere else, before the rest of the world or maybe this guy was part of the crew
Was he black in the comics? The comic pic doesn't look black. It seems like Fox blackwashed him just to kill him off. That's the most racist thing any studio could have done.
@@--------352 He still has a light skin tone. A white guy with prosthetics and white contacts could look like Darwin. But they got a black guy for the sake of an ironic "Black Dude Dies First" trope.
All the writers had to do to keep Darwin from being OP is realize that his powers are only defensive. So Kevin Bacon could've just wised up and said, ''You know what, let's just not attack Darwin. As long as we don't attack him, he's just a regular dude vs. our team of super powered mutants!" That would've been interesting to see Darwin trying to jump into attacks and having the bad guys continuously avoiding him.
@gorgoroth1919 I think you missed something in this video He said there was once a plan that made them think he would possibly turn into something that would help..instead he just teleported. Which was basically the tell tell fact that his powers are defensive. To a point where it's more about keeping him safe to survive, rather than add to his offense. Then he went on to say exactly what you said..the writers fucked him off
@gorgoroth1919 They couldve literally killed off any other mutant to raise stakes. Yet instead of killing off any of the other mutants that can easily be killed in so many ways (most of which you could just shoot and kill with a pistol) the ONE guy who's power is to adapt to anything to stay alive gets killed off instead. Its fucking stupid terrible writing and a spit in the face to fans of the comics who are familiar with Darwin's character.
@@archentity killing someone who could be killed by a regular gun shows no threat whatsoever. Killing with ease a mutant who's supposed to be practically indestructible shows that the person who kills it a real threat to everybody. The whole purpose of that moment was exactly this, and it worked.
Imagine how funny that movie would have been if the villain just said “Adapt to this.” And he just adapts to be able to hold the marble and the villain just goes “I... uh... I didn’t expect this...”
You know, it makes much more sense for the Sentinels in DoFP to have been perfected using Darwin's DNA and not Mystique's. She merely changes form, she does not have perfect adaptability.
The actor is contractually obligated be at every showing of the movie. He must stand up after the scene of him winking to the audience and teleporting away, to say, “and that’s how you survive a Marvel movie” and walk out.
@@Kiyosuki yes for sure, so much comic relief in so many situations , i bet that could even best ryan raynolds . .. they should bring the same actor too ,the ability to adapt and got the same role even outside the movies
You could say that he's not dead, just not in one piece. Like he's having trouble coming back because he's currently a billion little tardigrades or something. And he needs to literal be pieced together.
He could of been one of the ones who jumped off the plane! They could've of it made it where he was really alive this whole time just shrunk down to avoid dying and to escape and was small the whole time til deadpool almost steps on him and he regrows and is like... LETS KICK ASS (and he met ant man just to make it even more fun while he was tiny)
I'd say his powers just take the easiest route to make him survive, so instead of elaborate or risky ways to save him his powers just choose the simplest and easiest way to ensure there's no possibility of his death. In the case of Hela his power probably realised he couldn't resist her death touch unless he had her powers, so his powers legit just gave him her genes.
Darwinism is the most able to survive it’s not who’s the most perfect that’s why humans are the dominant species on the planet but diseases like meningitis kill us by using are immune system against us were the most genetically fit to be the dominant species but were not perfect
And it's worth noting that God's in marvel do have DNA. Famously Tony Stark was able to clone Thor, and create a being that could approximate his powers
Always thought the line before his death made it 10x worse. "Adapt to this".. it's such a basic misuse of his power and adds insult to injury. "Adapt to this".. ffs..
painhellemental 9000 It is comic Darwin’s powers. The writers are just too dumb and lazy to utilize him and keep him alive in the movie, even if his powers would be defensive as it has always been portrayed the movie would’ve been great.
Not to mention that Shaw usually never uses his powers in that way in the comics, he tends to just use energy to bulk up and then go punch people, or fire energy blasts, he's not Gambit ffs...
I really didn't like it either tbh, I liked him a lot and I thought it was so stupid even as a kid for the most adaptive man on the planet to just take that and crumble like a dry cookie.
@@aerospacex3239 if his gills could disappear when he no longer needed them he could have turned back to normal when he no longer needed to be pure energy.
I really wanted a post credit scene where the phone rings in Xavier's mansion, and it's like a looming, foreboding shot, slowly pressing into the image of a ringing phone. Beast answers and is like, "H-hello?" And we see Darwin at a payphone in Australia and he's like, "My body teleported me to the furthest point on earth away from those guys and I just got to shore. Can you come pick me up?"
I’ve had a Head-cannon since the movie came out that He just evolved into dust to make it look like he was defeated, and that some 10-40 years later he just randomly reforms
There is actually a book series with a similar character who is supposed to be unkillable. The heroes thought they finally killed him after some huge shenangins. The truth was that he adapted to release spores. Planted himself somewhere a few miles from the scene, grew as a tree, and a decade later popped back out of a fruit from that tree. A lot weaker than he had been, but he survived. That was my head canon for Darwin. He's alive, and just growing back.
@@Chaosmancer7 imagine if Darwin got reassembled like those who got snapped back by Hulk, but he appeared on a random country and he just couldn't get back anymore
@@Chaosmancer7 I just picture the dust gathering after being blown around and just slowly building back up into him, wonder how much he'd be reformed by now
Now that marvel has the rights for xmen in their movies, I'd love for them to cast the same actor as Darwin and just subtly hint that he adapted by teleporting to the mcu timeline
Fuck subtly hinting at that. Make it blatant! Comic book fans hated how horrible the Fox X-Men were so everyone would love Marvel taking cheap shots at them.
@@cjtrules1 did people really hate the movies? i thought xmfc was decent (despite flaws like this) and days of future past was really good. apocalypse and dark phoenix were horrid though, thats true.
@@30251 Yeah I remember that 1st Class was well received at first put once people analyzed it more there were holes and missed opportunities. Days of Future Past same thing but a bit more negative after the nostalgia wore off.
They were probably going for the Worf Effect but they really hadn't established him as that unkillable yet. I was also bothered by Emma Frost's diamond form cracking from a bedframe. Wtf
That actually made sense. See diamonds are hard but brittle. They are the highest on the mohz scale so nothing but another diamond can scratch it. For example a diamond was crushed by a hydraulic press on the hydraulic press channel. So magneto squeezing her throat with steel using enough pressure would crack it.
@WasabiLover yeah. She turns into "organic diamond" and she has stronger defense in that form than Colossus when he was the Juggernaut. She can tank Cyclops blasts and a rampaging Hulk. Though she does have a molecular flaw and can be shattered under very specific circumstances. But some steel bed posts don't really fit the scenario.
I dont think the gauntlet can effect other universes than its own, Darwin was probably eatin breakfast than unexpectedly noped out of the universe from the snap.
@@Vanlifecrisis Heck yeah, it would teleport him into another universe and then he could come back with the opposite-avengers and double beat down on Thanos
@John Eric kindly, I believe you may be ignoring context. Taking in to consideration how undeniably under represented black people have been in Hollywood (though it is slowly getting better in SOME ways) the fact that the only character played by a black person in the film is so easily killed off despite the fact that his character is literally ‘unkillable’ should rightfully raise eyebrows.🙂
@John Eric Respectfully, just because you may have never lived through or personally witnessed a volcano does not at all mean they have not existed. You may do well with listening to other peoples experiences as opposed to getting your back up and out right dismissing folks based on what you yourself have or have not witnessed in your life.
There's one, perhaps two (if you count New Mutants) movies left in that universe and then it's over. I'm sure they were aware of both movies when making this. It's dead, Jim.
@@tritebs1673 People just loved it because it was R rated and different to what we've seen before. The film had major pacing issues, writing issues among other problems... ( In my opinion)
I stopped watching xmen movies after this scene. I hoped that the guy would appear later in the movie like some sort of an energy blast or something but no, his only vulnerability was to be africanamerican. And sure, BAAAAAANNNNSSSSSHHHHEEEEEE and Fireballsshakira were very ridiculous...
They captured and studied Mystique's abilities in order to give the sentinels her abilities. Darwin had already died decades before the sentinels were even created.
Funny thing Darwin was in the state where he was literally turned into living energy absorbed by one of his teammates and survive like that for decades
Would you mind explaining to me what "Shakira" stands for in that context? (I know Shakira is a singer, and stuff, but I can't catch what he meant by that)
I’m glad they talked about this because I was mad. They didn’t even establish the extent Darwin’s powers. How is that a power flex for the villain to kill him? They teased us with a cool character, and made him useless
XD "The more Hela stays in asgard, the more ornate her headress get" is the first "The longer the Icon of Sin stays on earth, the more powerful it will get".
I always had a theory about Darwing on the movie and it was that he’s body could resist the energy so the logical thing was for his body to become light and shed his mortal form
plot Twist he actually did gain medium awareness, and did teleport away. He just faked his own death to escape the franchise. Right now he’s chilling out in his home, ON MARS
@@lamb_link ok, thnx for clearing that up, i did a google search as i am not familiar with the character and he looked more lightskin then dark, but as i said, i know nothing about him.
His power has been overwhelmed in the comics and taken time to recover. I always figured the movie Darwin took a bit to reconstitute himself and then just went back to a normal life rather than more CIA crap
i've always wondered how viable that would actually be in the comics. Granted I haven't seen that movie in forever (for good reason) but from what I remember it seemed plausible. He could move really fast but he was repetitive with his movements and Sabertooth just attacked where he was going to be
I knew they were gonna exploit his powers weakness though. His teleporting power was different from say Nightcrawler. You could see his skeleton every time he teleported. It was so weird, but hey at least we got to see Will-I-Am.
I thought he just reached a state of pure energy but hasn't been able to pull himself backward because its advanced enough that other entities who have reached that state have stopped him, or he just got lost in background radiation and some kind of power boost or psychic wave might be able to pull him back together
The energy shift was what kept him alive in his debut arc in Deadly Genesis. Problem is, he's alive but he has no way of reincorporating on his own because he evolutionarily doesn't need it?
Darwin can still technically come back, there is a issue where Darwin had became pretty much dust and it turned out that he got reformed at a different location as a new person in a new body
don't count on it. Its been, what...3 movies since we've seen his character? I'm pretty sure he's gone. Hopefully when Disney starts adding X-Men characters to their Marvel universe they bring him back and actually make him useful.
@@Macndcheese Taskmaster has photographic reflexes, meaning his fighting style can adapt to any situation, so the longer a fight goes on the more of an upper hand he gets. Meanwhile, Darwin's mutant ability allows him to adapt to survive any situation. So it's a matter of who would win, the man that adapts to survive, or the man who adapts during a fight. It has the potential to go on forever with no clear winner, as they both adapt to eachother.
@@AzureKyle He'd just go invisible/cloak himself since I guess Taskmaster's ability involves seeing/sensing fighting styles & situations. And/or Darwin's actual damage against Taskmaster (hits, kicks or whatever) are completely random to where T.M. cannot adapt
I literally said the fact that they killed Darwin in the movie is a sign is that the new x men reboots were gonna be trash great pointing out cheers to the death of X-men fox
They could have focused on a weakness of his power randomly manifesting, but also made him not OP in the cinematic universe by saying his power is only defensive. They could have kept him alive by showing the dust slowly coming back together and still preserved appearance of power for the bad guy
I actually threw my pop at the screen when I saw the way Darwin died... and I saw the movie as a relatively old guy. The teens sitting in front of me didn't snitch and loved it. My friends that I was with stopped taking me with them to the movies.
I forgot first class existed and that Darwin was in it. After this I’m just mad that he was killed. He could have been a cool side character that just kinda chills throughout the series and just is kinda chilling as like the X-men are fighting like apocalypse and armies of sentinels and Darwin is just getting chips or something as he adapts as he gets a snack
The sad thing is I thought of two ways they could have done darwin differently so they didn't have to kill him off. It's based off of what happened to the hulk in the movies, in the movies the hulk is much weaker then his comic book version, in that there is almost nothing that can beat the hulk using only physical force since his strength, resilience, and regeneration is limitless, so they made him weaker. They could have done the same with darwin, just make his power the ability to resist damage instead of becoming immune to it, or make his immunity temporary, or make it have to have a cost like an accelerated metabolism, something so that it's possible to beat him. They could have had a scene with a severely wounded darwin in a hospital bed, having been blown in half or something and he's completely wrapped in bandages but his mutant power is keeping him from dying, but he's still in a coma from the injuries he suffered.
12:23 I haven't seen X-Men first class yet, so I'll trust you on what you're saying, but ever since I saw Hollow Man as a kid whenever I see Kevin Bacon it gives me the chills. So just because of that film I'd might end up feeling intimidated by that guy.