That Weird Dragon Ball Z OVA 

Awesome video!

@@TramiNguyen-oi3kp thanks so much Trami!

@@forgottenrelics1197 you’re welcome!

man, you know all the names of the animators, awesome

Heck I Remember there also was a scene where Piccolo Special Beam Cannon clashes with Slug Full Power Energy wave, but I couldn't find that clip anymore...

I think that’s because of DBZ’s Gaiden story Plan to eradicate the saiyans also having an “interactive film laserdisc type of video game” adaptation on the Japan exclusive console called the playdia system, where there were Newley made animated moments & scene variations of the two part storyline or the ova special in its own way such as seeing that blue haired fairy & tao pai pai again and I just always found this one to be the most interesting out of all the other adaptations of this same ova saga side-story.

Was there an ending where Gohan goes SSJ2?

@@JoseC687 unsure. but he's drawn in ssj2 by Masaki Sato for the promo art of this ova. for whatever reason...

​@@JoseC687nope, not in the broly movie or in this ova, only in the bojack movie he goes ssj2. Bc he would've overshadow everyone if he went SSJ2 i guess.

The movies is more likely to have really good animation tho and toei will make more money that way

They should make a Majin Ozotto OVA

​@@windandfireproductions5358 Too bad we got the shitty super hero movie

a Majin Neko Special that comes alongside Daima would be pretty cool 🧑‍🦯

@@windandfireproductions5358 I think an OVA series could introduce some fun side content that doesn't have to be encapsulated into 2 hours. Might give us a better means to have more solid 2D animation too so you don't have to deal with expansive CG. might be good

still tho saying his hatred is greater than both freeza and cooler of all characters seems a bit extreme. Turles even gives his reasoning after saying this hatred of saiyans comes from the fact he was "killed by a saiyan", which isn't any different to freeza and cooler

It's an interesting aspect of the character that i wish was explored on his own movie

​@@forgottenrelics1197 wowww...makes sense cus I never really understood his motive ... INTERESTING!

thank you! it was fun to touch on a lot of these animators again :)

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Beautiful ❤

@@forgottenrelics1197 💀

it's my favourite part so i love doing it

ayee nice find. i haven't seen to many cels from these ova's

Was it just by itself or did it come with a background?

No background, but annoyingly the genga is stuck onto the back, if I try to remove it, it will damage it. So annoyed people didn’t use to take care of these things

SHOW US

I would if I knew how haha

Are you smoking Scooby doodick?

@@Areaninetyone real

They're both continuity-porn!

Wtf? They aren’t similar at all

How is it the blueprint? I don’t understand.

honestly i'm surprised Toei even re-released this ova with the Dragon Box set. missed opportunity for a remaster there. guess the best we can hope for is that kineko video comes across a scan

The fact that 1998 YuGiOh and the movie can't seem to be recognized enough is criminal on it's own

Yeah that is true but I have manged to stubble across some fan made upscale remasters of this ova so I think that’s as close as we’ll get for now.

Do any of the reused scenes in the Playdia games look any better?

@@BagOfMagicFood unfortunately it's worse. or at least going of the reuploads on YT like the clip at 17:04

thank ya, it's always a pain trying something new every vid but happy how this came out

I probably could've worded that better. I was poking at the irony of fans criticising Super's writers for just "reusing" or "recycling old concepts" when in reality Toei's writers were doing the same back then. Not "they brought back villains before why is it a problem now" which seems to be how it came off. Because personally i'm not exactly a big fan of bringing back old villains either.

This was originally made to be shipped with a game, having older characters appear was literally just an excuse to make them playable, so it was fine.

​@@forgottenrelics1197problem is most of Super's writing was just poor.... while even the mess that was GT had interesting concepts and improved storylines like Baby

@@jesusbarrera6916 a lot is, although personally I think Super had some interesting new characters and concepts of it's own.

That was my exact thought. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Vegeta's my favorite by the way

Most a Tuffle

A truly remaster has ever seen in every ending in plus more. That would be great. And not that water down crap I got with raging blast 2

I’m def overthinking trying to bring logic into this but maybe dr. Lychee could only revive villains who were on earth

I think the simple answer is that this was an adaptation of a video game plotline and was meant to work as a visual guide for the game, so Koyama was restricted in making major changes to the plot to avoid conflicting with the original premise.

@@forgottenrelics1197 Ok that makes sense.

Flub shikun djeb Janemba frukenf cyibs?

Gohan had the same face when transforming against cell

very appreciated bro. thanks as always for your consistent support!

One of my favorite subjects by far. Animation is such a crucial part of visual communication. I started watching Z (sub) before I could read. Every movement felt so important.

@@ToliG123 for sure, it's a very overlooked aspect that carries more weight than most anime fans give it credit for

I’d like to learn more about the processes for new animation. I know they use genga. But I don’t think it looks quite as crisp as old school animation

@@SSMike31 this video is over 10 years old now but i feel it's a very in depth look into the behind the scenes. highly recommend -ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7LgHOUTZ8Gc.html

The filter didn't even feel right black facing Piccalo😂

There are no black dragon ball characters lol

@@jaykelley103 General 'black'??

@@simpssimp lmfao yeah. Goku black too ig

@@jaykelley103 it's a joke. Have you never seen alien charecters in series where the way they talk and act is from a distinct black culture???? Bra

They're kinda doing that with Daima.

Barca won the treble that season

its strange because her art in earlier arcs like at 12:24 is nice. guess she struggled with the later designs

Koyama penned the script for this ova before he decided on bringing him back the next year in 94. so in the context when this came out, it could've been possible. the more likely reason he didn't is that these Ova's were intended as "visual guides" for the actual video game, so making drastic changes to the original plot would ofc cause a lot of confusion for the intended audience

Yea me to and I grew up on og toonami days …. I never seen this nether

It almost look like the same people who drew the mega man 8 intro graphics for the PlayStation drew this

You're not a real fan then. This was a well know video game that never made the West.

@@Dontwrrybruh It was well known by real DBZ fans who looked up DBZ retro games

thank you so much! the editing was very time consuming for this one haha so glad ya liked it

Mentioned a Saga Tuffle

ty man

real

Maybe a human a Capsule Corp. sent a earthling around a civilization Tuffle technology Bulma has 1/16 human or Ex-Tuffle even a Trunks and Bra 1/2 Saiyan human

It's because Frieza is a pretty good villian. Frieza has some real ambitious being a conquerer. However, it's the whole him wanting to right the humiliation of a monkey being stronger than him that keeps him pushing for new heights of power.

​@@Dijitz23I see what you mean, but that doesn't sound interesting at all. Besides, Freeza in Super has been either more of the same or a parody of himself. Sure they tried something different with him in the tournament but IMO it wasn't worth bringing him back a 3rd time. Especially not with whatever the hell the manga is doing.

This is a Tuffle

real

Streets of rage Like Music

thanks so much! appreciate it :)

Wasn't really good times like It created Misconceptions that are still here today like gohan was replaced due to fans.

@@SpeedPunch - It was good times, because while there may have been misconceptions due to lack of official outlets for information like the ABUNDANCE of official outlets we have today, I prefer the good old days, when you couldn't just GOOGLE something instantly and if you wanted to do your diligence, then you had to do the RESEARCH... That's why people are fkin stupid today, because instead of having to WORK for information, which always yielded more information than you bargained for, we just Google anything and it takes us DIRECTLY to the source of the information, which we consume and then promptly forget because we didn't have to invest any time into researching it... When I had to cite work for school or learn about something new, that shit stayed with me for life, whether it was a book report on birds or Italy, I didn't just GOOGLE footnotes, I sat in a library for HOURS reading interesting facts and information about the subject that I would have otherwise NEVER known unless I had to WORK for the research... Kids today don't even use Google anymore, they're so fkin lazy and stupid that they just ask ChatGPT to write the damn book report FOR THEM... So while misinformation and misconceptions were certainly a part of "the old days" i'll take them old days over the obsessive internet society we got today... Hell even PORN was more fun to search for, now you can search up w.e porn you want at your fingertips.. I remember when we all used to jerk off to fkin Magazines, even Victoria Secret catalogs if you were too young to buy a porn mag, and when you found a mag you REALLY liked it was special, you kept that shit in a secret spot, and if they house ever caught fire, you bet your ass you were gonna run and grab that porn mag before the house burnt down and you lost it forever lol

thank you so much!!

Tuffles or Tsufur even a Fruit reverse races

yeah there were quiet a few

thank ya!!

ahhh that choice in name makes a lil more sense now! and yeah it really sits in the middle for me, defs not the worst thing but considering the staff list it coulda been a lot more

ye its cool 👍

Same, it really has a dark atmosphere that hasn't been repeated since.

Because most of the casual DB fans are dumb enough to buy literally anything from Toei even if the products were inferior and they don't care about good quality lol

sounds very familiar :) could you send me a link to the vid? would be keen to give it a look

I remember that, Goku goes back in time with Trunks, Gohan and Krillin and they go back to whem Goku was a kid. At least thats part of the special.

Yeah I know about that one it’s called "Dragon Ball Z: Gather Together! Goku's World" released by Bandai for the terebikko phone game interactive play vhs console game system in the year of 92.

ahh that one. for the first half Naotoshi Shida seems to animate a lot of it (guessing he was AD as well). the 2nd half is supervised by Naoki Miyahara. that particular fight of Cell is animated by Tetsuya Numako with very heavy corrections by Miyahara. shida genga -instagram.com/p/C7pTPTBMtwl/ miyahara corrections -x.com/datwerg/status/1826379157825356207

That's a pre good explanation! This ova doesn't actually ever show where the saiyans exactly lived which is odd. It does in the original backstory from Z ofc, although Koyama's new take in this ova does retcon parts of that original episode. So I'm unsure if he still had details like where they lived in mind when he wrote this or if he treated this as something entirely new. He definitely kept parts like the Saiyans rampaging as ape's so it's possible.

My guess is it wasn’t poor living conditions. Saiyans are kind of Spartan and can handle harsh conditions. It would make more sense if the Saiyans found out the Tuffles were developing Baby, a hive mind virus that they intended to release in the Saiyan population and make them into a compliant slave race ruled by a Tuffle hive mind. It just makes sense if the Tuffles weren’t as innocent as they pretend. Their bodies were weak but their science was strong, so they planned to use their science to obtain powerful slaves who would make their lives easier. They wouldn’t even have to feel bad about it considering how violent the Saiyans were by nature. Really Baby would be doing them a favor, harnessing their strength for the greater good!

Not alone was it distracting it didn't really add to the weird story of this OVA. It's interesting stuff but it really felt very misplaced and disconnected from the video itself

i thought it came with the Dragon Box set back in 2003? but they didn't bother remastering it. although that was from its wiki page and i don't actually own that set so can't confirm 😅

@@forgottenrelics1197 just checked and your right bro 😑 (but I was mainly talking about how Z looks on the dbox not the OVA)

@@wormHD oh gotcha 👍 and thanks for the support man! always tryna bump up the quality

This was never broadcast on TV, it's from a video game.

@@theurbanyouth Good catch

google, not really hard

@@Uchidaful he knows by art style

Plan to Eradicate the SUPER Saiyans was the remake

You mean dbs?

Why would DBZ look childish?

@@LilGrimey5Star idk, it would honestly be fun to imagine what dbz would look like in the old art style, maybe i would’ve preferred it if it kept the late namek/early cell style

@@LilGrimey5Star the possibility could also be that i would like the saiyan saga art style to come back

@@FirstofallIamvegeta I think you're extremely confused. You're naming Sagas that aren't even in OG Dragon Ball

where was i calling stills bad animation?