Thanks for your feedback！！❤️ It looks like our 1.0 version has a lot of room for improvement. We will fix these flaws in the crowdfunded version. Like that piece of paper that's hard to tear😂😂
The "wandering in the makeup section where women look at you like you're lost" hit so close to home for me it's a little frightening. Still some of my best dry brushes.
I even watch your reviews if they're about products I'm not really interested in. Just love to hear you talk about the hobby. Keep up the good work, and never lose your sense of humor. It's great !
I agree. Finding a white one however is like looking for a straight banana. And I can’t understand people buying multicoloured ones for speedpaints. It’s hard enough to see the colour without dripping it on a silicon rainbow. 🤣
the square water pot issue could be solved with a cylindrical insert with mesh sides and base to agitate the brash against inside the water pot. an Additional feature/add-on piece that increases utility, flexibility and specificity.
It's an interesting idea (it just needs a little tweaking to be great for mini painters), if I had to move my products from A to B every time i paint. But like you, I've got a dedicated painting area so. Some things I'd need to be able to use it at all. 1) A proper well palette in white PVC (I still use the OLD GW ones that came with their paint station and love them) with wells that aren't bigger than the RGG Wavy addon. 2) Bigger size so brushes will fit. 3) I'd also love some paint storage tray. I mean, if you can't store your paints with the palette and brushes, i can just get 2 plastic containers and my RGG palette instead. (There is another product out there that I like, that features all my wants/needs in a handy format, but it's obviously more expensive. If I had been interested in taking my paints, brushes etc with me when I go on vacation etc.) I do love the brush holders though! And would happily buy something similar as a stand alone product. Always a pleasure watching your vids & happy to see you getting the recognition you deserve! Although honestly, I haven't had time to watch content at all lately. :'(
The black colour is epically stupid. I even like to see how dirty my brush cleaning water is to make sure I change it regularly. I love the brush clip & drip bits, but for any type of painting, most of it is an epic fail. What a Shame.
the video was less about reviewing the actual product and more about promoting himself and his channel. throughout this video he kept going on about himself and that he's some kind of technical engineer blah blah blah and just talking about his other videos and linking them, also the fact that they sent him the product because of his many subscribers blah blah. what a bore!
I think you might have me mixed up with someone who cares. One, I am a qualified engineer so can review the manufacture, two, RU-vid is literally for creators to promote themselves and their videos and three, I don’t have many subscribers so that’s not why they sent me the product. Also when making the video, it cost me, out of my own pocket, 5 times as much as the cost of the “free”product. I’m not sure what you wanted. The product is reviewed in depth. I’ve covered everything. Sorry if that’s not good enough for you. I’ll spend more of my own money next time just for you.
This feels very mid and not like something any of us need. It also looks very inconvenient. If I'm being honest, the modularity is a hindrance rather than a benefit.
Inside the water pots I’d imagine. It fits around 9 droppers or 6-7 citadel. Then take ‘em out and pour in water. I don’t think they planned us to carry the water around in the pots…🤣😜
Did you try painting the black wells? They’re plastic after all. Some primer + white + gloss varnish ought to make them pretty darn usable. If the primer doesn’t stick, attacking it with a dremel for some light roughing ought to get the primer on there. AK Interactive actually sells gloss white primer (Dual Exo) as a single step possibility. Thanks for the info. I’m looking for a mobile solution and this is on my short list.
Oh yeah. That’d be a problem :) Thank you! I’ll wander the hardware store and see if I can find a waterproof clear spray sealant. Surely there is one which paint won’t hard stick to. Seems like a common enough problem (e.g. graffiti).
As someone who moves their painting station around between home and my place of work, this is an amazing tool kit. Its perfect for starting out, and, while definitely needing some improvement (noted the same issues you had), it seems like it does its intended purpose. Definitely not a game changer per se, but a great tool kit for those that are on the go.
I can’t disagree. I have all this stuff already. But the sponge and paper in the wet pallette is actually the best I’ve seen. And I’ve used everything from Red Grass to supermarket stuff. Weird!
@@thestateofplay2023 It really feels like a great first piece of kit for those that are getting started. The way that each compartment can be used for several different things also helps reduce the chance that it will just gather dust.
@@thestateofplay2023 I am envious of that, between my myriad of hobbies, cleaning up my figurine painting isn't one MY wife and family gets behind. Although i do make them sit in silence whilst i listen to Luetin09 and make them pass me each shade of paint individually. " I said Agrax Earthshade!!!" I yell while launching the water jar across the room. " D6 wounds" I say when i land one on my daughter. Perhaps this thing will help them get more involved in my new goblin army?
Painting Station sounds like it will paint minis for me :) But overall - can't see the reason to buy something like that because I already have all these tools separately. But it might be a good start setup or a gift for someone, who plans to start a painting journey
Thanks for sharing this. I’ve just done a complete studio overhaul and I was missing something to keep my painting and hobby stuff separated. I’ve ordered 4 of these (small ones as they had a discounted) for my girlfriend and I. 1 green each for clippers, glues etc and 1 blue each for our painting stuff. ❤ many thanks, more so as I’ve only found your channel today. Thanks!
Products like this are more useful as a gauge of judging the honesty of hobby channels, than anything else really. Im happy that you tactfully didn’t endorse it basically. I’m not an industrial product designer, I’m a graphic designer but even the few courses on product design I took as part of my overall training, are enough to allow me to say that this product is useless for many reasons. The core idea is not a bad one but the execution is not good at all. It’s as if this was designed for a different purpose altogether and now they are trying to reuse the basic design by throwing in some ‘’hobby related’’ artifacts, or the designer in charge never painted a miniature in his whole life and didn’t even bother to ask someone who did. Judging from the black palette, this strikes me as a gadget for people painting with heavy body acrylics or most probably gelly gouache and poster paints popular in Asia. Even the black tongues suggest that they are there so that you won’t wipe your loaded brush at the border of the paint well, polluting the gelly gouache color layer in the bordering well. The storage doesn’t fit brushes and it’s too shallow for most of the basic tools. The outside brush racks are a nice idea but I doubt they can survive transport. The wet palette is only good if it can seal air-tight. And that’s the main reason why a common Tupperware, or a Ferrero Roche box, is most of the times performing better than many fancy smansy palettes costing x10. I saw that the suggested price for the whole kit will be at more or less 40 euros. 40 kicks maybe… Products of this kind and at this price range are de facto targeting a very small part of a very small market. Only the ones with top quality and designed specifically to meet the needs of a sort of posh part of the hobby community, can justify their existence and avoid being accused as scam schemes.
I get the feeling this is a goache pallette for landscape artists and some thought, “hey, miniature painters use paint, right?” But didn’t actually ask any. My kids love it though. And they actually enjoy tidying it away so I get no mess and a stress free clean up!!! That’s the new market!
@@thestateofplay2023 The real question is…. Would you pay 40 euros to buy it for your kids? I did some digging and now I’m even more convinced that this was intended to be used with gelly gouache or poster paints. They are very popular in China, Japan and Korea. But that again makes it’s intended pricing completely off. I’m saying this cause usually when we say gouache, we think big brands with products aiming at artists or art students. In Asia most of these paints are kind of low grade, not lightfast, cheap media and very accessible. I mean the only reason the old hand painted anime backgrounds were done in these paints, was that they were used in big quantities and they were super cheap. It’s like using these big bottle liquid gouache made for kindergarten kids. So this is a quite expensive set up for such cheap paints. I might be too suspicious here, but my gut feeling is that this thing is already made for use in the local market, but before it’s normal circulation they try to market it at the ‘’Hobby suckers’’ that are used to buy simple art supplies for 10x their value, so they won’t even notice. They will get what money they can from them and then proceed to market it at a better price for it’s intended target group.
Honestly I was sent one of these as well and couldn't really find much use for it beyond the top storage and water pots. The biggest problem to me is the fact that the wet palettes don't even work. The paper provided is very non-porous - none of the moisture soaks through. My paints were constantly drying on the palette after minutes, no matter how much water I put in the palette, or which orientation I used the paper in. And as you mentioned, the dry/well palettes are nearly useless for miniature painters both in how we use our paints and the fact that it's black which makes it hard to see a lot of colours. However the big water pots, storage space, brush hangers and wet palettes being condensed and transportable are great, for sure. I'm really conflicted on it. I want a nice, consolidated storage solution but I'm not 100% sold yet. Perhaps I will toss out the dry palette trays (I don't see myself ever using them) and cut my own wet palette paper, it would solve most of my problems. Just feels bad throwing part of the product out and cutting my own wet palette paper in order to make it usable.
The pots are good. Storage is good. Silicon brush cleaner I s cool. Brush holders are great. The wet palette sponge is good. Just swap the paper for supermarket baking sheet. The well pallette is terrible but great for storing spare sprue bits like guns and weapons. I just improvised. 🤣
@@thestateofplay2023 haha agreed for sure. I think it's a useful product, but just not specifically targeted at miniature painters. It definitely requires a little improvisation to make it work for our purposes. And that's fine for some, hobbyists are resourceful animals :P
I think it’s a product for the Asian market for gouache paints. But to target the western market they’ve Kickstarted to mini painters. Not a bad plan per se, but I think talking to mini painters up front may have been a better shout. I’m curious whether they take anyones reviews into account. That would make a huge difference to the product AND their brand.
@@thestateofplay2023 absolutely, I got that impression as well (that it’s primarily designed for a different market). They are definitely a smaller team so I have a feeling changes won’t be made to this product anytime soon. But I would definitely implore them to look at designing a separate product specifically for the western market once they’re done with this kickstarter. There’s definitely some good ideas here, and the price point is far lower than I had expected. If they can tweak it a little bit for the western market and keep the price down I bet these things would fly off the shelf :)
Man, I love your take on things. I DO love the gear acquisition aspect of our hobby. But I like one tool, that does the best job and lasts because it’s quality…not so much 20 of slightly varying versions. I never would have considered the black mixing trays until after purchase.
In totally agree. Problem with this hobby is you always need to buy 20 varying versions just to find that one tool that does the best job. 🤣 I have about 20 white paints. I use just one.
Two videos in a week?! Oh sir you do spoil us lol Appreciate this review, ill be probably taking part in this kickstarter. My hobby space/time with a baby is limited. Quick transport/clean up is a must. Over the past 8 months, think ive got maybe 2 of necromunda gang painted? And i mean just a basecoat.
It's cool, but most of us have a transport system, tote, rolling tool box, ect. That's just gonna go in there. It's cool for a gift to a new painter, with limited space. Also brush length is a storage deal, cutting the cheaper ones isn't so bad. But when you invest in a good brush, it hurts in your soul
As you so rightly point out, this appears to be a product for landscape artists that they are trying to shoehorn into the mini painting hobby. The black paint wells and water pots are entirely unsuitable for minis. The fact that the brush storage is so small is laughable. Basically, the product needs to be larger and the mouldings in white rather than black. Not something that I will be looking at backing.
I live near Cardiff but travel to Plymouth frequently for overnighters due to work. Quite like the idea of this for doing a bit of on-the-go light hobbying. I do have a proper toolbox but, if I’m only away 2-3 nights, I don’t really want to lug everything with me. I’m talking the sort of “finishing up a couple of models I was halfway through before I left” kind of hobbying. When you’ve got a spare hour.
Oh that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it would work well for that. Paints kept in the water pots for travel. It’ll fit 9 droppers per pot. Or about 6 or so citadel pots.
That is pretty cool and I bet more than a handful will like it. A recommendation for the 3d printing crowd: The Paintpal travel companion I believe does all of this, except clip together solid (which I don't care much for I just brought a velcro strap) it's really cool.
Id love to get one of these it seems perfect for me because i dont have room for a permanent painting station i can get set up in a couple of minutes. I would like a lid with room for some paints and brushes so you can take it places and have everything you need.
While i agree with some other posts stating it is filling a need i dont currently have, i think i will be recommending it to some folks i know who are restarting their painting journey after a long hiatus. Thanks for sharing!
I like this, it would REALLY tidy up my work space 👍 However I think I’ll hold off and see if they take your suggestions on board. By the way I love the humour you use 👍
Thanks Jeff. Yeah those additions would sort this thing. Although my kids love it. And they actually fight about who will tidy it away. That NEVER happens. Who knew!!!
Well if you hated it so much I’m not sure why you care. 🤣🤣 not everyone is born with a great mic, bags of money for and unlimited RU-vid editing, camera, sound, graphics, SEO experience. Sadly. Please be nice. If there’s a next time. Takes no extra effort. Have a good one!
Thank you for the thorough review! I usually shy away from things like this marketed for the hobby, but it's actually a price I'm willing to pay for something I've been looking to do just this. AND YOU SAID IT SEEMS DURABLE, WOOHOO! I like being able to stack away all my related tools (paint cups, wet palette) together, plus the brush holders actually look genuinely usable, which will be a new tool for my setup. It'll be nice having some smaller wet palettes I can squirrel away when not in use. I may divide them by project, or one for me and one for my brother, then keep my previous homemade jank one as a backup or use it for something else. I saw they have a green & sand colour option instead of blue & black. That definitely helps the visibility problem, but I still despise the idea of cleaning paint out of the plastic wells. However, I think those'll be useful for storing bits & basing materials. I currently lack such a thing. I'm perfectly happy with not having something meant to carry all of my tools and models in one. Too heavy a container can be just as much of a hurdle as space for me, and the compact size and specificity of its role means it'll be an asset at my all around craft table as well at the twice monthly Warhammer meetups.
Groovy review. I imagine if you travel to hobby with friends or at a game store this might be very useful. Or if you travel for business a great deal and want to keep on playing.
@@thestateofplay2023 True. I do like your recommendations at the end. It’s not perfect, but a good starting point that could easily be modified or improved on before release.
Very good and very fair review there. I was also sent one to review, hoeever, because I work away from home mine is still under testing. When I get home Ill be able to see how good the wet palette is. Very good point about using it how you wish to use it. I am more along the lines of scale model painting so the wash issue doesnt come into it as much for me. I use the wells for oil paints though and I agree that black isnt the best colour. For me the solutiion would perhaps to offer that section in white, grey or black. Didnt know about the stickers, and that is going to bug me no end. But yes, very nice and fair review.
Stickers are my kryptonite! I know all the solutions to remove them cleanly but man, we shouldn’t have to in 2023! I do like it. But the well palette thing is such a shame. With oils (not as washes) it should work great. Even watercolours. But acrylic mini paints really need rounded wells, ideally silicon. Come back and link your review or tell me. I’d be interested.
@@thestateofplay2023 Thank you, I will do. I do agree with your comments, but one other thing I also agree on is that you seem to suggest that its different things for different people and while one person may hate it another may love it. So far Im in the yes camp, mainly because it combines other things for a cheaper price. Yes it has its issues, but its currently at the Mk 1 stage. People like us need to be giving honest reviews, such as yours so that Mk 2 is better. Your review suggests you were not paid to review this (I wasnt either) and that allows us to be honest as we arent tied to a sum of money or a list of key words.
I agree. I genuinely wouldn’t accept a paid promotion where I was forced to say anything. Keywords or not. After working in advertising for 30 years I’ve bent the truth enough. 🤣
@@thestateofplay2023 lets go with definition 2a : something (such as an instrument or apparatus) used in performing an operation or necessary in the practice of a vocation or profession .... And not the one commonly attributed to humans 😬 yeesh
I like hobby innovation but this very much felt like reinventing the wheel. Every issue it claims to solve another issue takes it's place. Not to mention this only seems good for those with little space or on the go. Both of which there are many options for. Not to mention the regular issues crowd funding is subjected to. They already have the product and packaging, so some amount of production capabilities. I don't see why they need our money upfront. So much of this product shows issues. Most would be better off with a different product. Having gone from having to keep my paints and stuff stored when not in use, this product does nothing new that a bag and containers can't. Plus hard to pronounce name from Hong Kong screams scamazon.
I can’t disagree with any of your points. Except maybe the Hong Kong thing. My wife is from Hong Kong. 🤣🤣 Everything from Hong Kong is hard to pronounce! 🤪
@thestateofplay2023 @thestateofplay2023 while yes, as a foreign language, it can be difficult for us, there is a track record on Amazon for companies to pop up with weird names sell a generic product for some time then disappear once the bad reviews have come in just to appear with a new name right away. I just took a look at their website, and under point 2, it is blatant false advertising. There's literally paint on the brush that they "prove" their silicone insert gets more paint out of. Meanwhile, the regular brush is just wet and doesn't even look used. Plus, in the before and after, there is a mini, a sprue, and a cutting mat in the before. It disappears in the after. The mat and sprue literally can't fit in it. Point 4 is also blatantly wrong. At least in terms of our acrylics. Ours are very susceptible to separating and over thining/drying out when left in a wet pallet. I don't even trust paint left for a couple of hours in mine, and from what I hear, that's universal. I'm going to stop searching for issues. It seems misleading at best. They also use very generic language for their product. Let alone a proper product name. It seems more like a prototype name. I think we are just to assume it's called "all-in-one modular art box." Which screams back to Amazon with run-on titles to hit those keywords. I honestly can't even find who this product is meant for. It's very generic in "you use paint, get this thing"
Again I can’t disagree. I think you’ve hit a lot of valid points. But to play devils advocate here I’ve used this for 3 weeks now, am a fully qualified product designer, engineer and executive creative director with 30 years experience. Much of the stuff you say is right. They’ve bent the truth a bit in their marketing. Although from HK, I’ll bet it’s made in Shenzen and considering it’s already made I can’t see the point in a Kickstarter. Being honest, I’ve never bought a single thing from Kickstarter - ever. I struggle with trusting anyone there and hate the idea of paying only to wait months or more for something that might never come. I’ll probably use the water pots as the silicon works really well. And I’ll get use out of the wet pallettes. But as a system - I don’t think I’m the audience.
I understand your fear. And the basis of your comments is mostly fear. From an outsider view it is scary. But I am have a very different view on kickstarters than most. I have multiple accounts at super-backer. I dig in deep and speak with these people personally. Though I can understand them probably becuase I spend more time talking to asians than anyone else, i do think their english is good. While talking to these exact people I have found them to be overly informative. I’ve had to ask them to block and retract sensitive information from others and myself lol. Anyway, kickstart is the place where startups play Russian roulette with only two chambers. They get loans and take advantage of connections to be in a favorable position. The kickstarter should pay for the loan at a slight loss and the project is a fail. But these people usually keep pushing and pushing out of fear of a public failure. I’ve coached so many not to make these mistakes. You’ll find them young and in debt. But they truly believe they can make something great, or very good enough lol. My point is I’ve talked with them. I’ve seen the product. I’ve seen the molds and paperwork. This is a real product. They are wasting too much money to fake it.
