The “Pre-Sampling” of Grandmaster Flash’s “The Message”

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Today we’re talking all about the creation of the landmark song, “The Message” by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5, why it’s so important to music history, breaking down the inspirations, and once we’ve unravelled the whole thing, I’ll create a mashup moving through music history, using not only the songs that sampled the message, but the songs that the message, well sort of “pre-sampled”
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@diggingthegreats Год назад

Correction: I misspoke! Herc’s party was August 11th, not the 12th

@devilishclover Год назад

Video ruined :(

@rickyspanish4792 Год назад

@@devilishclover Yeah that's an obvious unsubscribe 8)

@blakegeorge3274 Год назад

The best channel

@NoyziNeighborz Год назад

Yeah man... Don't wanna mess that date..lol. That's like on of our kids B-Day in this Hip Hop world.

@huadataotie5619 Год назад

Probably ended on August 12th anyway, so no mistake there really.

@theloverlyladylo9158 Год назад

I’ve had a stressful week, but knowing there’s a rapper whose stage name was Duke Bootee has really given me a lift.

@christophergarza9118 Год назад

😂 hilarious

@StretchinBack Год назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_natTXEE8ao.html In 1984, I recorded Bootee's "Live Wire" off the radio onto cassette tape.

@ericbrooks858 Год назад

He was a music producer not rapper

@HypnoticHollywood Год назад

He wasn't even a rapper but just rapped on this one song.

@analogmainstream Год назад

@@HypnoticHollywood he had an whole album out in 1984 where he rapped. He also rapped on The Message II (Survival) alongside Melle Mel

@kammusik145 Год назад

So my dad and Duke Bootee (The Duke of Booty) did music together in Savannah often before Duke’s passing so this episode is special to me. My dad recently gave me one of the original copies of “The Message” and it’s amazingly Duke Bootee throughout. He conceived it in a basement, wrote, produced and outside of the verse beginning with “A child is born with no state of mind” it’s all Duke. Wiiild to remember we’d be at his house and they’d be doing music while we watched; As kids you think these guys are old but you grow up to learn they’re absolute legends.

@jizzmaster2000 Год назад

💁

@gardenlover9663 Год назад

Thanks for sharing your story/history with us.

@subsanity667 Год назад

That's a very interesting story! I love Duke Bootee's production methods from those early rap/ hiphop singles especially the raw drum machine beats,and scratching on Z-3 MCs- Triple Threat 12 inch,it still "Slaps" today, 100% real hip hop

@DubTuck002 10 месяцев назад

This recounting of hip hop history is special 🙏🏽 thank you 👊🏽

@LaurenceCousins-ov9tn 10 месяцев назад

Who was your dad?

@VarianNash Год назад

This is hip hop history. Man, the blending of the songs. Perfection!

@diggingthegreats Год назад

🙏

@thatracecameraguy Год назад

Absolutely agreed. That mashup was sick

@sgtcreasegrease Год назад

@@diggingthegreats some real dj ish.

@work6312 Год назад

I’m in my mid 60’s I can attest to the fact that this is history.

@ericwitt4359 Год назад

Does anyone know where the bass used in the various songs at 10.00 minutes in the video come from? Looked for various songs of Duke Bootee and couldn't find it. Can anyone tell me because I would like to find it.

@ShawnThomas Год назад

I’m 57 years old. Born and raised in Fort Greene Brooklyn. I was in, and into “hip-hop” from day one, although not anymore. I can’t fuck with this shit that they are doing today. I remember all of those “base” song that inspired The Message; and I remember The Message and how it was viewed when it came out. I say all of that to say this: That mix you did was hot as fuck.

@coolo73 Год назад

As someone that has studied hip-hop production for decades, I love these videos. It's like watching Jeopardy at home and trying to guess the answer before the contestants. So important to pass this info on to newer generations. Keep up the good work. And oh...here's some suggestions for future videos: 1. The innovations and legacy of Kurtis Mantronik (the original 'King Of The Beats') 2. DJ Magic Mike and the 'Bass Music' scene of the 90's 3, The history of the Beat Tape released as a commercial album.

@davidallen6126 Год назад

all 3 suggestions are great ideas, I hope he makes 'em

@fedoramcclaren4294 Год назад

Oh my goodness...YES!!!

@chamboyette853 Год назад

Cool073 - I'm not into hip hop but I listen to this channel because the guy looks sooo cute and cuddly that I think about taking him to bed with me and just caressing his stomach (no homo by the way because I don't care for them). On another subject, if that is your real picture I would like to put my fingers on your glasses while you are wearing them. May I?

@rodneyjenkins6691 Год назад

Thank you for acknowledging Mr. Duke Bootee... He's a legend from my neighborhood... He wrote the whole song except the last verse that Mel wrote... Mel downplays him like hes only a percussionist..Give that man his proper respect.... Rest in peace Mr. Fletcher.

@vincent5318 Год назад

I caught that also, Mr. Fletcher was a musician at the highest level. What has Melle Mel done since 1982?

@TheKidyoung24 10 месяцев назад

@vincent5318 I'm all about giving credit where it's due to a legend such as Duke Bootee...but don't degrade another legend such as the pioneer of reality rap...mister Melle Mel himself. It it wasn't for him and several others before and after him, we'd still be spitting the "bom to da bomb da dang to dang diggy diggy" and "hip hop da hip it da hippy hippy hip hip hop and ya don't stop" etc and etc. Don't get me wrong...I love and appreciate all that come before and after ....I love hip hop from the beginning till today. I'm rather an enthusiastic and potential expert in the world of rap music....so no disrespect intended but Melle Mell is a legend to this genre as is Duke Bootee

@LaurenceCousins-ov9tn 2 месяца назад

Ed was an incredible musician. More than a percussionist, which is amazing in itself. He was also a jazz pianist and vibraphonist. Inspiration to me.

@KEENANALLENASMRGLASS Год назад

If hip hop had an anthem, this would be it 🔥

@PoloRollo Год назад

this guy 💀

@cloony1 Год назад

Player's?

@PoloRollo Год назад

This was the TikTok anthem for like a month

@lostinjazz Год назад

Hip Hop‘s anthem has always been „Apache“ by The Incredible Bongo Band in my book though..

@PoloRollo Год назад

@@lostinjazz I was thinking more of a radio hip hop like Gangsta's Paradise or Hypnotize.

@PMack5 Год назад

Honestly the only issue I have with the creator is he doesn’t do enough videos. I really enjoy ALL of his videos.

@diggingthegreats Год назад

🙏 I wish I could do more too!

@magyaradam Год назад

That djing at the end mixing all 3 songs together with some of the best dj I've seen

@bethanyberry-sennet3698 Год назад

This channel is so informative!! Is it me, but I also hear One Way’s “Cutie Pie” from the sample.

@diggingthegreats Год назад

Oh absolutely

@schrodingerscat8621 10 месяцев назад

If it isn’t already, hip-hop should be taught as a college course. Its contribution to music is incredibly massive, it’s so interesting to hear the history of the music we listen to today, it’s origin, it’s transformation through the years, how innovative Artist metamorphoses simple beats and rhythms into a masterpiece. I would love to be a hip-hop nerd and know much more than I do.

@malik87breaker Месяц назад

It's a sub-culture that could be researched. If not as a culture. If only someone can make researches, it is doable. Why not research? It could be taken as a class.

@gustafcederborg9744 Год назад

Your channel is not only great , your charisma is off the charts makes me keep wanting to watch

@bigolbabyhuey Год назад

Good information and the mix you did at the end was dope... In addition to the facts you provided, Edward Fletcher aka Duke Bootee wrote almost all of the lyrics, even Melle Mel's part except for the last verse that Melle Mel wrote and recorded on a previous Grandmaster Flash & The Furious 5 song called 'Superrappin'. According Mel it was Sylvia Robinson who suggested he used those same lyrics for The Message

@terrymiller111 Год назад

You finally convinced me you are a God-damned musical genius. Your idea for that tribute mix was so innovative.

@keyboardkingpin Год назад

If anyones wondering the dope synthesizer sounds that actually made this a timeless classic are very hard to replicate ,come from an analog Sequential circuits prophet 5 synthesizer and the drums come from an oberheim DMX Drum machine. Good look making this with VST synth plugins...

@wallaceuber Год назад

I don't even comment on videos, but damn, I had to replay that mix like 100x. Awesome channel 😍

@LaurenceCousins-ov9tn Год назад

Duke Bootie /Ed Fletcher started as a jazz drummer/vibraphonist inspired me to play vibes and other percussions.

@jaysonnjmusic677 Год назад

The last verse of the message is hands down one of the best in hip hop history🙏🙏

@glitchtulsa3429 Год назад

Keith LeBlanc, Doug Wimbish, Skip McDonald=The Sugarhill sound!! Add Adrian Sherwood to the mix, and you have Tackhead.

@mossadon 10 месяцев назад

Here's Tackhead live with Mel droppin The Message ... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4C-Vwm6OPtQ.html

@subsanity667 Год назад

Nice breakdown of what influenced this classic song! I still play my beat up 12 inch single of The Message to friends or younger people into hiphop.

@DTension Год назад

Nice job. Old dudes like me already knew this info but you put it in an incredible way. Love it.

@csmcrckrs Год назад

Biggest musical influence for The Message probably was One Way - Cutie Pie! One of the most instantly recognizable beats of Hip Hop history!

@csmcrckrs Год назад

P.S. And I LOVE the flexatone sound effect! Could this be the source for the flexatone becoming such a staple of West Coast Hip Hop? Perfected by none other than DJ Quik of course

@eMeXdubyah Год назад

Damn that was the sickest mix you've done so far on these episodes

@missbonekittyasylum3715 Год назад

"The Message" had meaning, very good beats and even connected people who weren't into rap because of the lyrics. The Message is one of the blueprints missing from today's rap/hip hop. It was and is a statement!

@CozumelTy Год назад

The best rap song ever made. STILL today the lyrics hit home, the beat is original and unforgettable, the flow on point. Amazing.

@finkployd6110 Год назад

You should do a video on how early producers utilised limited sampling equipment, since samplers with more memory cost a fortune at the time. e.g., look at how Ced Gee made Ego Trippin' using the 1.2 seconds of the original SP-12. It's also the first time the popular Synthetic Substitution break was sampled.

@antwanwilliams1972 Год назад

That bottle percussion at the end, sheer genius! You have done it again my friend 👍🏾

@hellboundrubber4448 Год назад

Genius and Epic. Hip Hop History was just created right there. wow

@eancurtis9333 2 месяца назад

I feel like the majority of people who listen to hip hop could care less where samples came from ..which is unfortunate because every sample has a story ..so i appreciate this channel !!!!

@Chito783 Месяц назад

I love going down the rabbit hole searching for the original songs that were sampled.

@tshore0601 Год назад

My man you do not miss. Learning so much from your content, much appreciation for the knowledge!

@diggingthegreats Год назад

Thank you so much for the support

@chriskringle5191 Год назад

That mix you did at the end was .... 🔥

@diggingthegreats Год назад

🙏🙏🙏

@mavericknoone Год назад

Man, this channel is criminally underrated. Also mad props for Duke Bootee.

@Carthagin1an Год назад

I'm not a huge music guy, but I love your channel. It's so well researched. How you present a song's influences, break down the history, and remix the songs is FIRE. Keep up the great work, my man!

@pruett89 Год назад

Another Friday, Another journey into Hip Hop history! For everyone digging the songs "stemming" from The Message check out "Close Edge" by Mos Def it is an awesome 1A/cousin to the songs mentioned here both the studio version and especially the live version from Chapelle Show.

@livertiny Год назад

Miles was down with Duke Bootee too. Theres even a song on Doo Bop called Duke Bootee. And i think he was involved in the production of that album along with Easy Mo Bee.

@CarbonSolutions Год назад

Love the channel, sir! Hoping to see you cover Gil Scott-Heron some day 🙌

@csblakeley Год назад

OK, my mind is blown by the notion of Eno/Byrne being an influence on The Message. It delights me to know how broad the pallette was for hip hop from the very beginning.

@violentkushbeats Год назад

That mash up was super dope!

@dryptobot Год назад

The Message might be the most important piece of music across all genres

@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb Год назад

This is becoming an all time great youtube channel for me

@jjbing3 Год назад

You can tell what year a person was born based on which version they rap when the intro comes on. 😂

@diggingthegreats Год назад

😂

@djtheman9 Год назад

MY NIGGA. EVERY VIDEO IS A BANGER. MY FIRST VIDEO WAS THE J DILLA ONE, BUT JESUS MAN YOU GO SO FUCKING HARD. I FUCKING LUV U.

@diggingthegreats Год назад

😂 thank you, having too much fun over here

@commissioner01 Год назад

I remember hearing this song when it first came out on radio in the 80's. It was so different! Great breakdown 😎 📻

@artistlovepeace Год назад

Your channel, lectures and demos are facinating. Wow!

@remedyplays40 Год назад

When i first saw your content i was pleasantly surprised to see how high quality it is and surprised at the amount of subscribers you have, this os truly high quality content and inspires me. Id love to see you do a podcast or something like that one day as well as expand your merch and such!

@lennon78 Год назад

Thank you for your work. It is much appreciated. So much joy in watching the love for music in you.

@jessefranklin7616 Год назад

Great video! I love the history behind the songs and how they are sampled to this very day. The mix on the end was phenomenal. 🔥🔥🔥

@ThisHandleIzntAvailable Год назад

Man you are legit my new fave RU-vid channel. Hip-hop is life and you embody that statement. Your videos are done real well, the information is solid, and it's super fun to watch! Big props!!!!

@GaryHarwood Год назад

White British guy of 54 years vintage here. Just subscribed due to the rich content and great mix at the end! 🙏🏼👌👌

@felixmuzhingi8684 Год назад

Thank you sir. Keep doing what you doing. I love your channel. Everything you've done is outstanding.

@Blizzardmane Год назад

Your video intros are amazing. You get to the point and make me want to watch and learn more. Honestly been binging your stuff all week 😍

@davidposso Год назад

Bro, this is just GREAT! Keep it up man, the content is perfect.

@renneverscared1186 Год назад

i got so excited when i saw this!!! this is one of my favorite rap song's ever and to see it be broken down is amazing!!! there was always something about the instrumental i liked so thank you for this! amazing videos as always!

@moefukkah4031 Год назад

These videos are amazing! Very informative and inspiring. I always want to go immediately to the studio after watching.

@BlowWord. Год назад

i love the way you did this ! The isolations , The edits ! dope

@michaelrobison7559 Год назад

Amazing! I’m a total “sample” nerd and found this whole story fascinating 💯✨

@rena187 Год назад

Ahhh, one of the first rap songs I learned line for line as a kid, it stayed on heavy rotation on vh1. The constant bombardment of the song/visuals eventually made me really listen its messaging. Your videos are just too interesting. Music teachers should use your videos as enrichment to their curriculum.

@PianoDentist Год назад

This track blew me away when I first heard it - I heard it before rappers delight. I was immediately hooked on hip hop and became one of those 80's b-boy kids with a roll of lino (vinyl floor covering) tucked under my arm. It was a shame though, there wasn't much else out there at the time that could hold a candle to the social commentary in the message. We had to wait a long time before we got other real talk tracks. Early hip hop was all about partying, celebrating the mighty dollar and how many ladies one has had - not using the vernacular of the time, as it hasn't aged too well! Happy memories and still a dope track.

@DJVINNIE Год назад

your videos are always great - you can see all the work that goes into them - awesome job!

@hgfskate Год назад

What a fantastic track breakdown and music history demonstration, world needs more content like this! 🔥

@CoxDannyJ Год назад

Everytime I hear "Planet Rock" I get super hyped. Thanks, I'm gonna listen to that on repeat for the next hour.

@willdieselpower 10 месяцев назад

I normally like these breakdowns. But this one was fascinating. Being 53, from Queens, and enamored when hip hop was starting, this hit different. Subscribed.

@beatbuildersstudio Год назад

Amazing video. Great story telling about the history of the song. I loved the mix at the end.

@sira.scottascot8865 Год назад

This is fantastic. I always wondered about this one. One of my favorite grooves.

@leftycobra Год назад

This is one of your BEST video, BRAVO!

@SoopChannelZero Год назад

Thank you so much for this videos from Spain. Top. 🙌🏽

@SkilzNine2Five Год назад

Loving all the episodes 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@jake.tones. Год назад

loved the mashup, great work

@Newbreedkinght Год назад

Really appreciate the time you put in to your work, I learn something each episode. Love the work.

@C-Lyfe85 Год назад

He put all that work in and still got it wrong. This dude don't know nothing about no funk music. Anybody that knows knows that record was inspired from Al Hudson and One Way Cutie Pie.

@maybud60 10 месяцев назад

This is just too much fun! Brought a huge smile to my face and some great memories of hearing The Message for the first time way back when 👍😃

@markredmond854 Год назад

Dude. FANTASTIC!!!

@TheAlexmynameis 11 месяцев назад

As always, a banger of a video. Love this channel.

@SamFocused Год назад

This one Was amazing so much knowledge, talent and own Skill at The end in just one Video. Your Research and Editing skills are on an Others Level! Your Chanel will be one of the greatest on RU-vid in your niche about Samples & music History 💯💯💯

@diggingthegreats Год назад

🙏🙏

@jwalzer Год назад

Frigging love this channel

@BC-kv8mg Год назад

Marvellous vid! thanks

@artisan002 Год назад

Outstanding work.

@stephaneletourneau7712 Год назад

always super cool trip with you man, thanks for making these videos. great work

@stevengibbs8651 Год назад

It’s just like when Run DMC came out with walk this way. The break had made the rounds through the hood!💯

@DiscoHank Год назад

Great piece. “Genius of Love” itself was influenced by “Mo Bounce to the Ounce.” Also those high percussion fills in “Genius of Love” were played on “The Message” as well.

@ludamillion 10 месяцев назад

All the influences are connected because Tom Tom Club was made up of the rest of the Talking Heads after David Byrne left the band to record 'My Life in the Bush of Ghosts' with Brian Eno.

@DiscoHank 10 месяцев назад

@@ludamillion Yep, Tina Weymouth being the author of “Genius” famous bassline, and Chris playing the drums.

@JJohnkkttran 10 месяцев назад

Wow. This video is insanely well done. Years back I read Bill Brewster's "Last Night a DJ Saved My Life", which seemed like the definitive history of DJing, and it seemed to be the most well researched and interviewed source for how the Message came togehter. That being said, what you've done with this video, the book could never do. By pulling all of these samples, and soloing them, you really painted the picture. The AMAZING remix you did combining them all was the icing on the cake. You deserve like 10 million followers. Editing and motion graphics were incredible too. Also, if memory serves from the book, I believe Talking Heads/Tom Tom Club were regularly hanging out with Grandmaster as well as the other people in the South Bronx scene back in the day (ESG, Etc...) They've all been pretty clear the pre-sampling went both ways, as Remain in Light and Speaking in Tongues definitely lifted from what people were doing in the early hip hop scene.

@roccbolden4416 Год назад

Sir. You just got a subscriber. Love your knowledge and love of the craft. It shows.

@mogsyman8467 Год назад

love this channel, look forward to watching every friday, keep up the good work 👊 !

@eskeeroc Год назад

Groovin on that mix!!!!

@rudeylee3584 Год назад

🔥 Great presentation, and hip hop history info and more 👍🏾

@dmitrybelyakov Год назад

wow, that's the best thing i've seen in a while!

@Genetherapy3232 Год назад

Your vids are top notch! Thank you:)

@Al-fs3fb 10 месяцев назад

Mate, thanks for all this information. Love your channel

@gettincraftywitit 10 месяцев назад

Big smile on my face for your mix, love it!!! What a teachable moment! But that's what you do, Mr. Greats😍😍I was there--at Kool Herc parties! Grew up with Raheem from the Furious Five in Lambert Houses and am so happy to b here to see Hip Hop's 50th anniversary. God is good!!!

@Moconvomedia Год назад

That Mix U Did At The End Is Too Fire Like You Did Dat Homie #Salute

@koolone831 Год назад

This episode was so dope thanks.

@kaithemagi 10 месяцев назад

Yooooooooooooooooo Great video!!! Love the mashup. And the bottle was everything

@temaparehodson9616 Год назад

Best channel ever I get so excited when I get notified it’s time for my next hip hop history lesson

@slowflowlowlow Год назад

Thank you bruv! Good stuff🔥

@larrylove5237 Год назад

Love the content 👊🏿

@davidscott2095 Год назад

Great video. Thank you

@GoldynChyld Год назад

Peace. Your videos are amazing man. Well put together. You’re definitely a student of this culture bruv! Gratitude…

@jokervinyl Год назад

Awesome journey, thanks!

@SilKoMa Год назад

Bro i really hope that some day exist this kind of videos but in spanish. I'm latino and i'm really conected with the Hip Hop but theres nothing yet comparance to this things thanks for spread the culture and the history of My first real love in life the Hip Hop