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The 2019 Apple Mac Pro Is Perfect! Well... Kinda. 

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Is the 2019 Mac Pro going to be any good or is just another disappointment? Spoiler alert: it's going to be good. Mostly...
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Apple released the 2019 Mac Pro at their WWDC keynote to much applause. Sure, things like iPadOS, system-wide dark mode, and the creation of Project Catalyst (formerly known as Marzipan) which allows you to run iOS apps on the Mac are all major software changes, but the new Mac Pro looks amazing. The question is, can the 2019 Mac Pro compete with desktop workstation PCs using its server-grade hardware or is it just too expensive and overpriced like Macs of recent years? Snazzy Labs analyzes the new Mac Pro and its Intel Xeon W Cascade Lake CPUs.

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@plate4416
@plate4416 5 лет назад
Only 1.5 TB of RAM. A sentence I wouldn't have even dared imagine I'd hear.
@KiraIRL
@KiraIRL 5 лет назад
In their high end build...which will net you 40k+
@ssjseifer
@ssjseifer 5 лет назад
"640K ought to be enough for anyone." -Bill Gates on Hard Drives
@KiraIRL
@KiraIRL 5 лет назад
@TheLuchsKing yes that is true. However they pitched the pc to the entire world. Last I checked your average person doesn't need a 50k computer. Also their base mac's spec is laughable. 256GB ssd? For a 6grand build? LOL. Only a 8 core processor? Only 16gb ram? FOR 6 GRAND? People put the same pc together for around $2500. What an insane markup. Mac+Monitor+stand+tax= $14000. For $14k I put a 32 core thread ripper build together. Includes 128 gb of ram at 3600mhz, TWO 2080ti 11gb gpus, 4tb ssd, 4tb NVME, 10TB HDD, THREE 5k MSI monitors, AND I even included all the little things like mouse/keyboard/headphones. My ending price was $12.5 grand.
@KiraIRL
@KiraIRL 5 лет назад
@alysdexia are you seriously correcting me on capitalizing for a response that took me 30 seconds to write....ON RU-vid? What are you my professor or something? Get a life..
@James-dm8cx
@James-dm8cx 4 года назад
@alysdexia you have no life
@datboi_gfx5504
@datboi_gfx5504 5 лет назад
100% buying this... 10 ywars from now on eBay
@dialupdave6276
@dialupdave6276 4 года назад
me too
@manuel0578
@manuel0578 4 года назад
Just bought a Mac Pro 3,1 for $200 on eBay lol
@aninditabasak7694
@aninditabasak7694 2 года назад
Lol, by that time it will already be obsolete as Apple will drop support for Intel Macs by then. I'm already enjoying the Apple Silicon Mac Pro.
@Tinfoilpain
@Tinfoilpain 5 лет назад
"spares no expense..." *looks around for velociraptor*
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 5 лет назад
I still use a WD Velociraptor as a scratch file drive as its the best HDD complementary drive to a NVMe OS drive.
@AlexElectronics
@AlexElectronics 5 лет назад
I think that he was making a reference to Jurassic Park, not WD hard drives.
@alerey4363
@alerey4363 5 лет назад
excellent John Hammond quote
@Neetneet007
@Neetneet007 5 лет назад
Livo : iPhones are overpriced Apple: Hold my STAND
@werunthat
@werunthat 5 лет назад
ipsu it’s a comment, calm down
@Neetneet007
@Neetneet007 5 лет назад
@@AivoTV Wdym, I don't see a comment like that anywhere on this vid? Edit: and if there is it's purely a coincidence.
5 лет назад
Yawn 😴
@Neetneet007
@Neetneet007 5 лет назад
I didn’t know… sorry, I’ll change it. Better?
@Neetneet007
@Neetneet007 5 лет назад
@@AivoTV Lol srry again
@lukemiani
@lukemiani 5 лет назад
I can't wait to buy the cheapest 2019 Mac Pro on eBay in 3 years lol. Great video!
@notmynameonyoutube6658
@notmynameonyoutube6658 5 лет назад
If apple keeps their promise of supporting this platform with update kits/modules it will probably retain its value quite well.
@jacksonstewart8209
@jacksonstewart8209 5 лет назад
i don't even have the money for that lmao
@abz998
@abz998 5 лет назад
Happy to wait a decade.
@ecmorgan69
@ecmorgan69 5 лет назад
Dude, you are on eBay too much! LOL!
@Aquatint
@Aquatint 5 лет назад
luke i bet you regret buying the 'trash can' now!
@westonevisuals
@westonevisuals 5 лет назад
5:32 When he said “Speaking of IO and expandability...” I thought he was about to talk about the sponsor for this video smh I’ve been watching too much LTT
@Dedmine
@Dedmine 5 лет назад
HAHAHAHA IKR...😂
@dan2800
@dan2800 5 лет назад
Kinda off😁
@gustavomattos4269
@gustavomattos4269 5 лет назад
lol, true
@retroree7705
@retroree7705 5 лет назад
me too
@Vib1nn
@Vib1nn 5 лет назад
Same hahaha
@pokerandphilosophy8328
@pokerandphilosophy8328 5 лет назад
You forgot to mention the best sales pitch. If you buy the new $6000 Mac Pro together with the $5000 monitor, you get a $1 discount on the separately sold $1000 monitor stand!
@AndiKola
@AndiKola 5 лет назад
Cleaning cloth included.
@makasete30
@makasete30 5 лет назад
Whohoooooo! (Cue fake keynote clapping and cheering)
@j.d.5709
@j.d.5709 5 лет назад
you have to keep in mind this is for seriously heavy duty PROs like those working in major industries for things like Film and Heavy 3D graphic work so those prices aren't exactly uncommon in those industries.
@camilowish
@camilowish 5 лет назад
@@j.d.5709 It's a freaking stand! A U$1000 stand! I don't care if it is for major industries, it still is JUST a stand.
@tylerlovesmacs
@tylerlovesmacs 5 лет назад
but the thing is, you don't have to. That monitor is for a very specific market that most of us will probably never even interact with. There's no one to tell you using a nice $1,500 monitor won't look great and work fine with the Mac Pro
@richardt9831
@richardt9831 5 лет назад
At least you won't need a space heater with the 1400w power supply.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 5 лет назад
I use my 8700K as a space heater too! It's really nice in winter, not so much summer haha!
@RobertLeBlancPhoto
@RobertLeBlancPhoto 5 лет назад
I'm looking forward to the SnazzyLabs Hackintosh version of this.
@roccobot
@roccobot 5 лет назад
And now all the internet is taking about a 11K $* setup like it was a normal thing * 12K with the stand
@nuloom
@nuloom 5 лет назад
normal pro thing. not the “power user pro” thing that we’re used to because brands slap the term “pro” even on phones, the actual pro pro but yea. normal pro pro thing, not normal normal thing.
@MalarkeyMan
@MalarkeyMan 4 года назад
Simon Sony makes a similar monitor and it’s $20,000
@farhansaveroatharainga7802
@farhansaveroatharainga7802 4 года назад
MalarkeyMan and its only the monitor without stand
@llothar68
@llothar68 5 лет назад
Your comparison build is $500 too expensive because you use a Radeon VII with 16GB and not the 8GB RX580 from the base model. So its 2600 vs 6000.
@itemushmush
@itemushmush 5 лет назад
this confirms his point even more
@dbased1915
@dbased1915 4 года назад
sounds about inline with their usual 300% markup
@andreasmuller2437
@andreasmuller2437 5 лет назад
I hope you saved up 40k for over that decade you've been wanting this computer
@curt8806
@curt8806 5 лет назад
Lol I like how Quinn shaved because he wants to look young but he literally acts like a 40yo man. Who you fooling Quinn? At least when you had a beard you hid being gay much better.
@gregorypena2330
@gregorypena2330 5 лет назад
Jan Ryan I fail to get the “gay” part, though I do agree that he looked better with a beard.
@candbotchan257
@candbotchan257 5 лет назад
Jan Ryan I fail to see how this is related to the video.
@curt8806
@curt8806 5 лет назад
Candbot Chan tomorrows Thursday
@calinalecsandru181
@calinalecsandru181 5 лет назад
There are people who make that money in a week
@HAilCesar09
@HAilCesar09 5 лет назад
No matter if its $6000 or $60 000 most people who are going to buy this anyway are big companies and angry youtubers that are only going to use it to run 5 bench marks and complain that its not living up to their expectations...
@dougle03
@dougle03 5 лет назад
Big business spending habits have changed dramatically these days; IT departments don't have the budgets they once had, everything has to stack up on the business case and WLC is the determining factor especially as most 'pro' software will run on both major OS platforms.
@zollotech
@zollotech 5 лет назад
The new VESA Mount was all you. Can’t wait to get one of these.
@meteorafallen
@meteorafallen 5 лет назад
My condolences to your business account when you preorder the Mac Pro lol
@RomboutVersluijs
@RomboutVersluijs 5 лет назад
Well i guess he makes enough. He has an employee since a while and a couple film hardware tools easily succeed 1 mac pro
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 5 лет назад
It's a tax write-off at least.
@TheIggyTech
@TheIggyTech 5 лет назад
This is a pretty realistic take on the Mac Pro. Good video
@nvr5073
@nvr5073 5 лет назад
Cest la vie was used incorrectly
@raikoh05
@raikoh05 5 лет назад
That's life
@MrKelsomatic
@MrKelsomatic 5 лет назад
@@raikoh05 Fuckin' roasted.
@benrei3687
@benrei3687 5 лет назад
Probably he wanted to say "au revoir"
@phillytee9106
@phillytee9106 5 лет назад
it's c'est la vie for a start lol
@nobiggeridiot
@nobiggeridiot 5 лет назад
'C'est la vie' might not be the best mannerism, in that context. Something like 'bon voyage' might have been more appropriate. Thanks for the vid ! And good work steering Apple away from any 'stackable' nonsense !
@jesselioce
@jesselioce 5 лет назад
nobiggeridiot no it's not. It's wrong even but this is a tech channel so i'll gladly overlook it. Au revoir would've been the correct expression.
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
Bon voyage thermal throttling!
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
Au revoir, thermal throttling!
@kklogins
@kklogins 5 лет назад
Yeah, you were literally saying: That's life Sayonara would actually be a really good word for this situation. It's used as a final goodbye to someone you don't expect to ever see again. (Which if used wrongly can therefore also cause some serious shock and questions from your Japanese friends)
@thelanguagemonk
@thelanguagemonk 5 лет назад
@@kklogins or *Adieu* if he wanted to still use French, because *au revoir* implies that you will see the thing or person again...
@a8uella
@a8uella 5 лет назад
Thanks for the perspective and research Quinn, great video
@okejminja
@okejminja 5 лет назад
Really informative Quinn! Love you! Go get that Mac Pro!
@amex4453
@amex4453 5 лет назад
Thank you for revealing how stupid the 6k base model cpu is
@rcradiator
@rcradiator 5 лет назад
The most stupid part is the SSD and GPU downgrade. Like seriously, $6000 for a system with a 580X? At least throw in a freaking Vega 56 please, like your other pro machines have. Plus 256gb SSD is downright offensive in a $6000 system considering NAND prices are plummeting and you can get a 2tb NVMe Samsung 970 Evo Plus for $500.
@TheBigAEC
@TheBigAEC 5 лет назад
@RunFor OurLives what if, and just roll with me here, they sell a bare bones kit, case, motherboard, cpu for 1.5k and we supply the rest of the parts ehh. This isn't that hard, these rigid skews are, especially that base model is just made to nikel and dime (or $100 & $1000) consumers, pro or otherwise.
@krisvogel3015
@krisvogel3015 5 лет назад
upgraded model good, base model bad
@amex4453
@amex4453 5 лет назад
@@TheBigAEC exactly, for 6,000 we should already be getting a very powerful machine , not just some scope for upgrades that's a very dumb assessment made by someone here
@feifeigxx
@feifeigxx 5 лет назад
the cpu model does not match, Xeon W 2335 have 16.5 MB cache, mac pro specs sheet says 24.5 MB cache that looks like a Xeon scalable gold 6244, which is a 8 core costs 2900 dollars, the 256GB ssd is outrageous though
@thatjpwing
@thatjpwing 5 лет назад
This is a very well done video. I look forward to learning about your experiences with the new Mac Pro this fall. Great job!
@racealistic
@racealistic 5 лет назад
I'm a design pro and have been in the biz for years. As someone who has both experience using a wide variety of PC's and Mac's, I can honestly say that for the price Apple is asking for this rig is outlandish. You're better off buying the Imac pro to supply your work needs IF you necessarily need to use an Mac. Just for the price they're asking you can custom build a PC whereas maybe get the parts on sale or not for a hell of a lot cheaper and/or powerful to exactly to your own specifications. It's a well known fact that Apple doesn't like people messing with the internals of their machines, so getting a custom PC for your everyday heavy work usage would be a better investment if not for the price, just for the added comfort of swapping parts effortlessly.
@AmbientMorality
@AmbientMorality 5 лет назад
Did you see the presentation? Apple has emphasized that you can swap virtually everything in here. It supports anything that can fit in a PCIe slot (GPUs, audio cards, etc), CPU/RAM/storage expansion, etc.
@MattHalpain
@MattHalpain 5 лет назад
this fall I will definitely watch your 2019 Mac Pro video and many more to come.
@greentokyo
@greentokyo 5 лет назад
Best mac pro overview video!! Thanks! There was so much misinformation out there from all the people scrambling to get videos out at first
@manoah007
@manoah007 5 лет назад
Do I afford it? No. Do I understand everything technology that Quinn mentions? Also, no. But is it entertaining to watch? Yes! Just wanna let you know, we love your videos at IIT, Delhi, India.
@osamashaher3772
@osamashaher3772 5 лет назад
Tech Support scammer? Yes. . Don't get pissed it's a joke
@osamashaher3772
@osamashaher3772 5 лет назад
I was talking to Manoa
@prebenjaeger
@prebenjaeger 5 лет назад
Well done
@manoah007
@manoah007 5 лет назад
@@osamashaher3772 who cracks jokes that are not funny? You Dont get pissed its a joke.
@vicspeaks6207
@vicspeaks6207 5 лет назад
Thank you come again
@andrepoon
@andrepoon 5 лет назад
Base model is aimed at you tubers buying the machine to review it!
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
I’m not buying that one lol
@dougle03
@dougle03 5 лет назад
And flawed as a marketing option given the base model really does not have a natural home with any user. Serious pro's won't buy it, and it's far to expensive for ambitious amateurs. As a statement purchase I'm sure some boutique companies may buy one to put on reception, but that's about it. For reviewers, the mileage on comparisons to significantly cheaper PC's and other similarly capable Mac's is there but may backfire on Apple.
@oBCHANo
@oBCHANo 5 лет назад
All of them are aimed at RU-vidrs who have literally no idea what a computer even is, they just hear higher numbers and nod along. Even the highest end 35k model, no professional is buying that garbage, you can get the same power for 6 grand, the same price of the base model, it's a outright scam.
@frankiev1785
@frankiev1785 5 лет назад
Well thought out explanation and perspective, enjoyed hearing your thoughts on the Mac Pro and Pro Display.
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
Cheers!
@lenn55
@lenn55 5 лет назад
You forgot to mention the Afterburner card.
@raphaelmonserate1557
@raphaelmonserate1557 5 лет назад
lenn55 underrated comment
@sebulban
@sebulban 5 лет назад
GieniuMen does it really matter?
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 5 лет назад
@GieniuMen Given how much it'd cost to run that in "software" (ie non dedicated hardware using whatever else is in the system) 4-6K would actually be pretty cheap given what it can do.
@Chrischos
@Chrischos 5 лет назад
@GieniuMen dude but 4 RTX8000 are more likely to fail than one pice of hardware you must also think about that and 4 rtx produce WAAAAAAAYYYYY more heat than this one piece would do
@emotran
@emotran 5 лет назад
Good job Snazzy my man! You did it! ❤️
@maxmouse3
@maxmouse3 5 лет назад
Another great video. And I'll definitely wait for the full review haha ❤️
@ashleycharman
@ashleycharman 5 лет назад
Well deserved Snazzy Labs! Appreciate you!
@mr.breadw3118
@mr.breadw3118 5 лет назад
review the $999 stand for the $4999 monitor pls
@Jdudhhsuxbsksj
@Jdudhhsuxbsksj 5 лет назад
Mr. Breadw3 no just the stand
@irave8592
@irave8592 5 лет назад
Mr. Breadw3 Is it a requirement at Apple that you smoke crack while on the job. A thousand dollar stand are you fucking with me.Their consumer level products are still trash
@Smorfar
@Smorfar 5 лет назад
irave8592 nah they are actually are not. Apple Watch iPhone AirPods iPad literally untouchable The new iMac 2019 is pretty fairly priced. If you want to choose the same components the price is about the same. But keep talking shit buddy. Apple supports your phone for about 5 fucking years with Updates. The IPhone SE is still going strong. If you want a proper argument answer to this comment and I will gladly join.
@sdushdiu
@sdushdiu 5 лет назад
LMAO! A $999 monitor stand - and worth every penny! LOL! Amazing that they cannot simply make it VESA compliant so that essentially any mount would work.
@aidanswiftofficial
@aidanswiftofficial 5 лет назад
@@Smorfar those electronics are good, yes, but the extremely constricted ecosystem is what turns most people off in the first place. Add the price tag...you don't have happy haters.
@elysiumcore
@elysiumcore 5 лет назад
180 -205 watts for 8 to 24 cores.. Clearly Apple did not look at what AMD has done. - $4000 for a 28 core cpu ?? come on man
@SgtSayWhat
@SgtSayWhat 5 лет назад
Could be an exclusivity agreement between them and intel
@carbongrip2108
@carbongrip2108 5 лет назад
Apple very likely is under contract with Intel to remain exclusive for X number of years from signing in 2006 during switch from PowerPC.
@MACDRU421
@MACDRU421 5 лет назад
It's $4450, retail. You think Apple will charge retail?
@bepopxxx
@bepopxxx 5 лет назад
Its for industry not for regular people
@alerey4363
@alerey4363 5 лет назад
@@bepopxxx then why are they showcasing it on a regular people show and not on a corporate channel?
@ivanramos2599
@ivanramos2599 5 лет назад
thank you so much for the content man! You said exactly what I thought about this machine and sadly didn't have the words to say for my friends here in Brazil! Sharing this RIGHT NOW!
@johnsparozich6839
@johnsparozich6839 5 лет назад
Thank for sharing your insight and your videos.. I am not an Apple user, never liked their products due to over priced and hard to upgrade and get parts, but I enjoy your videos, as you seem very intelligent and down to earth person.
@ecmorgan69
@ecmorgan69 5 лет назад
Thanks for adding a little perspective to the sticker shock. Great video Quinn!
@colefarina
@colefarina 5 лет назад
Possibly the most powerful cheese grater *ever*
@InXLsisDeo
@InXLsisDeo 5 лет назад
IKEA design: Cheese grater GRÄTHÖR - $10 Apple: let's add 3 zeros to the price
@cliffordjohnson943
@cliffordjohnson943 4 года назад
I love your videos dude!!!
@theoneandonlybosable
@theoneandonlybosable 5 лет назад
Love to see the channel growing!
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
Thanks!!
@CO8848_2
@CO8848_2 5 лет назад
It's perfect, I was trying hard to get rid of that $12,000. Finally.
@stanislavtihohod
@stanislavtihohod 4 года назад
You are a real Pro! This computer is definitely for you!
@jonglass
@jonglass 5 лет назад
I've been waiting for your take on the new Mac Pro.... :-D
@JazzBear
@JazzBear 5 лет назад
As always, excellent video. I would love to see you build a comparable PC and see what it would cost. In my business (recording studio) I primarily use Apple products these days. I’m very fond of their stability.
@krushingkobra
@krushingkobra 5 лет назад
Make sure you do a video about what configuration you buy! Also: should Apple release a lower end version of the 2019 Mac Pro? ie a modular tower (maybe mATX size) in the performance bracket of the iMac Pro?
@DCyph3r.
@DCyph3r. 5 лет назад
5:14 i think you meant "au revoir" 😂 "C'est la vie" means "that's life".
@TheJediJoker
@TheJediJoker 5 лет назад
I was going to say this, but I knew in my heart it had already been said.
@pompombuuum3182
@pompombuuum3182 5 лет назад
Dc au repertoire
@dragofx_5472
@dragofx_5472 5 лет назад
As a French guy that confused me as fuck I was like :??????? ok
@cnectgraphics508
@cnectgraphics508 5 лет назад
Until now, the only people I heard who were willing to buy the new MacPro are RU-vidrs!
@dogenasus1717
@dogenasus1717 5 лет назад
Because the Mac is made for them.
@cnectgraphics508
@cnectgraphics508 5 лет назад
@@dogenasus1717 But this new Mac Pro?
@cnectgraphics508
@cnectgraphics508 5 лет назад
@Udah Vektorin Aja Point taken.
@cnectgraphics508
@cnectgraphics508 5 лет назад
@@chillax1688 Indeed. I would have loved to get a Mac with expandable RAM and storage yet still affordable, like my old G4. I don't need Xeon processors and killer GPU, a good Core i5 or 7 CPU and a decent removable graphic card would be enough. Of course, Apple could not do that; they had to come up with a niche computer hardly anyone will buy. That's why my latest computer is a hackintosh :)
@cnectgraphics508
@cnectgraphics508 4 года назад
@phillip martin I'll settle for troll :p
@ReedHarston
@ReedHarston 5 лет назад
Great video as always Snazzy Quinn! At 4:07 you circled the W-3225 as the 8 core option, but looking at the base and boost clock I'm guessing Apple is actually using the W-3223 as they match up exactly with the Tech Specs sheet on Apple's website (3.5 and 4.0 respectively).
@carbongrip2108
@carbongrip2108 5 лет назад
Good catch, its the W-3223. (You made a typo 3233).
@ReedHarston
@ReedHarston 5 лет назад
Carbongrip thanks. :)
@GreenLinuxPenguin
@GreenLinuxPenguin 5 лет назад
Yay! I was wanting your take on it
@blurdreamer
@blurdreamer 4 года назад
I love to have this beast in my design studio unfortunately my clients not paying enough for me to have it.
@burnzy3210
@burnzy3210 5 лет назад
£5 says it'll be a proprietary SSD and PCI SSDs will be blocked "for security" aka no home upgrades for you
@TheJudge064
@TheJudge064 5 лет назад
I will take that action. You are probably right about the first thing though, but you said and, so it doesn't matter.
@youngmo77
@youngmo77 4 года назад
Typical apple.
@victornpb
@victornpb 5 лет назад
They inflated the price by 2K to compensate youtubers buying it and then returning it a few days later. ❤️
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
Yeah, some RU-vidrs suck. I keep everything I buy or sell it locally. Returning it is scummy.
@999a999a
@999a999a 5 лет назад
I liked how you called the monitor 10DR 😂 11:20
@FernandoAES
@FernandoAES 5 лет назад
The best video about the Mac Pro so far. Most youtubers just missed the point or are burned because they are not the target demographic of the Mac Pro.
@enshk79
@enshk79 5 лет назад
Fernando Álvares but it looks like a cheese grater. Looks like cheese
@sammorgan4451
@sammorgan4451 5 лет назад
Bruv you are mad... Target demographic? I get this is high end but if you are willing to pay a g for a stand, you are a fucking idiot.
@Smorfar
@Smorfar 5 лет назад
Sam Morgan no one gives a fuck about the stand. Go on HP site and max out the workstation there. There are nearly the same price.
@phazonlord0098
@phazonlord0098 5 лет назад
I'm sorry, but what demographic is this intended for ? Extremely high end graphics design or editing or something, really don't know why you need this instead of a regular pc
@Smorfar
@Smorfar 5 лет назад
PhazonLord 4337 it’s a workstation PC. It is capable of streaming 3 8k Raw footage. like its not for normal people. Only for people who do heavy video editing and or maybe photo industry.
@philosoaper
@philosoaper 5 лет назад
Don't forget that professionally priced monitor stand.
@turke47
@turke47 5 лет назад
protip: nobody will be buying the monitor stand. professionals already have their own special monitor arms and stuff which they arent going to want to replace.
@philosoaper
@philosoaper 5 лет назад
@@turke47 to even offer it at that silly price is.. re tar ded...
@turke47
@turke47 5 лет назад
@@philosoaper sure, but nobody is really going to buy it, they'll sell some in very low volume to people who $1000 is nothing to. the $6k base mac pro price is retarded too, but again, nobody is going to be buying a base model mac pro, apple would rather have them buy the imac
@MK-fw4to
@MK-fw4to 5 лет назад
It’s all shits and giggles, but what we REALLY want to know is.. Does it scratch at level 6 with a deeper groove at level 7?
@kiattim2100
@kiattim2100 5 лет назад
Idk. Does your ass?
@Atul_Thakur97
@Atul_Thakur97 5 лет назад
ask jerry
@MK-fw4to
@MK-fw4to 5 лет назад
@@kiattim2100 Haha! Nice!
@rogerkellylara6830
@rogerkellylara6830 5 лет назад
Hey Snazzy, question about the 5k late 2015 iMacs. Using it as an external monitor isn’t an option but is it? Is the hardware just not there or is it just locked feature?
@MayiPasu
@MayiPasu 5 лет назад
It's a matter of time before they add a touch bar to the iMac keyboards...
@MayiPasu
@MayiPasu 5 лет назад
Hi, Quinn
@g4l1l_buckz35
@g4l1l_buckz35 5 лет назад
When you said "Speaking of" I thought there was gonna be a sponsorship. Then i realise this isn't ltt
@israellai
@israellai 5 лет назад
It's the conditioning
@chrislong8986
@chrislong8986 5 лет назад
Wow this is the first time they had more slots since the power Macintosh 9600 great video
@fanisviolentis
@fanisviolentis 5 лет назад
I rarely watch tech videos, but the moment I saw the Mac announcement I thought of your stackable Mac video and I was like “he’s gonna love that”.
@sdushdiu
@sdushdiu 5 лет назад
Yawn, Since the adoption of the x86 platform and the adoption of the Intel Roadmap, the Mac has literally been "just a PC" - which renders the absurdly expensive pricing absurd. What is amazing is the STILL widespread notion - both in the consumer space and in Pro-IT - that the Mac is NOT "just a PC".
@jacobcurtis6849
@jacobcurtis6849 5 лет назад
Apple is the Gucci purse of the tech world. That's the only reason their still around.
@calumdunn9554
@calumdunn9554 5 лет назад
The absurd pricing is absurd...?
@EssenceofPureFlavor
@EssenceofPureFlavor 5 лет назад
It IS just a PC, but to be fair, a pretty unique one. And some of the addon cards, like the Afterburner, are unavailable or difficult to find similar products elsewhere. It's really more comparable to a high end workstation like a Dell Precision or HP Z than it is to a run of the mill gaming PC.
@sdushdiu
@sdushdiu 5 лет назад
@@calumdunn9554 Yes. Not only is their entire line of "literally just PCs " absurd, but this model is similarly priced absurdly.
@sdushdiu
@sdushdiu 5 лет назад
@@EssenceofPureFlavor Sorry, but the inclusion of proprietary technology with no other driving forces than the machine itself, insures that it is a dead end soon to be orphaned platform - just as the trashcan that promised all sorts of upgradability to be orphaned. And it IS just a PC - literally - with over-priced left-field proprietary technology that will soon, be orphaned.
@narukahana6321
@narukahana6321 5 лет назад
Finally a truly professional reviewer most reviewers in youtube only talk about the stand and I'm getting bored with that content, they don't see this "pro device" in "pro view point"
@ImSerg
@ImSerg 5 лет назад
“Professional reviewer” LUL
@narukahana6321
@narukahana6321 5 лет назад
look, a salty one
@ItsPooly
@ItsPooly 5 лет назад
Great shill.
@Hatchray
@Hatchray 5 лет назад
I am interested in what configuration you are going to get.
@aliticx
@aliticx 5 лет назад
Superb video 👌🏼
@lux-pro
@lux-pro 5 лет назад
You did it, Quinn! Well done!
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
We freakin' did it!
@martinseal1987
@martinseal1987 5 лет назад
Love you man, compley agree keep telling apple how Mac's should look and work
@ericwood3709
@ericwood3709 5 лет назад
Macs
@Robinexs
@Robinexs 5 лет назад
@@ericwood3709 Macs Books Pros
@brentgreeff1115
@brentgreeff1115 5 лет назад
I wrote a comment on youtube somewhere telling Apple that a pro display should come with an arm, not a stand, and should do portrait. - Your welcome :)
@yodamaycry4838
@yodamaycry4838 5 лет назад
What’s better than building a computer for the average working man? Building one for .000001 % of the population. Way to go Apple.
@diegogabrielruiz2369
@diegogabrielruiz2369 5 лет назад
Great video!
@sejoki1
@sejoki1 5 лет назад
Everyone until last Sunday: „Apple is still selling the 2013 Mac Pro with outdated specs at its original price. They need to get serious about pros. lol“ Everyone after monday‘s event (where Apple got more serious about pros than anyone anticipated): „The new Mac is ridiculously expensive. It costs as much as a car and the old cheesegrater Mac maxed out at $15000. Nobody can afford this thing. lol“ What the actual F!?!? This is exactly what every professional wanted and more. It’s one of the few times Apple sat down with people to hear what they wanted and they gave it to them. Including the effing wheels that they had never offered by themselves. And what does the Internet do? Complain. It’s a niche product. Actually, if the niche had a niche, that’s where the Mac Pro would be, but it completes the lineup. Consumers: Mac Mini, iMac, MacBook Air, MacBook Consumers who do the occasional video/photo/3D editing: iMac, MacBook Pro, iMac Pro Professionals like photographers, web/product designers/architects: iMac Pro, MacBook Pro Professionals that do work the iMac Pro can’t handle anymore, like video production studios, rendering studios, some audio producers, NASA: Mac Pro. While the list isn’t comprehensive, if you don’t belong to the last group, just kindly STFU. It’s the equivalent to a race car. Nobody would complain about the ridiculously high price of a formula one car, or NASCAR. Because if you don‘t dress up to race around the track every Sunday, you won’t need it, so it doesn’t matter if it costs a million, two or three. But if you do, there’s no substitute. And if you truly need it, the price doesn’t matter.
@lamer8310
@lamer8310 5 лет назад
this racecar take is actually spot on
@noelperez6523
@noelperez6523 5 лет назад
Yeah agree, apple really meant pro this time 1.5 tb of ram is insane with 4 Vega GPUs for 128gb of video memory is insane. From what I read apple sent teams to actual studios to find out what they really want to try to make a computer for actual pros
@stalman
@stalman 5 лет назад
This was exactly the detailed breakdown i needed 🙏🏼
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
Thanks so much, dude!!
@stuffsonanimation4262
@stuffsonanimation4262 3 года назад
Wow you hi fived him
@mikeinva8
@mikeinva8 5 лет назад
Outstanding video, like the way you point out the good and the bad, not just the bad and that it is out of range for most people.Outstanding video, like the way you point out the good and the bad, not just the bad and that it is out of range for most people. Hopefully Apple will come up with something in between the consumer and the ultra pro maybe a mini MacPro?
@miketrame4090
@miketrame4090 5 лет назад
Easily the most thorough Mac Pro video I’ve seen yet, great job!
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
Thank you!!
@michaellurie9138
@michaellurie9138 5 лет назад
Looks like the $5999 Mac Pro will use that $749 W-3223 chip, not the W-3225.
@MACDRU421
@MACDRU421 5 лет назад
It looks like the base CPU is the $750 one, not the $1200.
@darylewalker6862
@darylewalker6862 5 лет назад
Are you going to get both the regular and rack-mountable versions? Will (either of) them be base, or are you going to go max?
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
Probably getting the 12-core config. We’ll see once pricing is announced tho.
@Applecompuser
@Applecompuser 4 года назад
Is there a release date for Mac Pro yet beyond Fall 2019?
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 5 лет назад
Many of the slots are blocked and cannot be used, when you put in some modules. Apple ditched the dual digital audio ports of the G5 and Mac towers, that audio Pros love.
@cjeelde
@cjeelde 5 лет назад
Tigerex966 you talk about those amazing TOSLINK ports? S/PDIF is another name. S and P in S/PDIF stands for Sony and Philips that created the port. Mac Pro Late 2013 had Mini-Toslink (3,5mm). Really sad that Mac Pro 2019 only got one analogue (?) 3,5mm audio port. Apple did the same thing for MacBook Pro: from combo digital/analouge to analogue only - and INCREASED the price... :(
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 4 года назад
@@cjeelde true even my old MacBook Pro has digital through the headphone jack via a. Tiny $ 5 adapter
@cjeelde
@cjeelde 4 года назад
Tigerex966 some MacBooks got a combo analogue/digital 3,5 mm port. So buy a cable: miniToslink to Toslink and no adapter needed. Or the solution I think you talk about: adapter. Is that a miniToslink to Toslink adapter? So you can use a normal Toslink cable?
@jabulaniharvey
@jabulaniharvey 5 лет назад
Well done Apple! A true professional's machine and some genuinely useful steps forward for the iPad.....Thank you Snazzy Labs for a frank and accurate report! i feel that the $6k machine may find homes in dedicated server spaces not as workstations...Apple engineers seem to have devised have a large and complex matrix of use cases that not only give the user flexibility but also give Apple good margins
@TheGiftof7PRESENTS
@TheGiftof7PRESENTS 5 лет назад
Good insight. Dap👊🏽🎶
@uniwasamistake6334
@uniwasamistake6334 5 лет назад
Apple: No compromise pc Also apple: 2 usb A, 4 thunderbolts
@cjeelde
@cjeelde 5 лет назад
4x Thunderbolt = also 4x USB-C! And 2x 10-gigabit ethernet! Plus... 8x PCIe slots 12 DIMM slots 8-28 cores CPU The good thing: you don't have to buy it 😂😂
@diddymies
@diddymies 5 лет назад
Well with vega support. You should try to build a hackitosh in future to compete macpro.
@thelanguagemonk
@thelanguagemonk 5 лет назад
T2 chip...
@markm0000
@markm0000 5 лет назад
The new security chips in Macs means that hackintosh will die completely.
@ethangraham1218
@ethangraham1218 5 лет назад
How did you go about creating this video, point out the pros and cons and the pricing but not mention the $1,000 stand!!!!
@WellFedProductions
@WellFedProductions 5 лет назад
Because he's an Apple fanboy...
@verlinswarey507
@verlinswarey507 5 лет назад
This is actually the best video on the Mac Pro that I’ve seen on RU-vid. Some of the different components on the computer were explained or put into context better than some of the other guys. (I’m not really a computer nerd!) So 👍
@JagadishTalluri
@JagadishTalluri 5 лет назад
Very well explained!!!
@snazzy
@snazzy 5 лет назад
Cheers!
@springbok4015
@springbok4015 5 лет назад
Apple should have gone the ThreadRipper / Epyc route. Cheaper, faster, better motherboard lifetime.
@1idd0kun
@1idd0kun 5 лет назад
I think only TR3000 would be good enough, but it's not out yet.
@nathanielmobley4362
@nathanielmobley4362 5 лет назад
The problem is a lot of pro programs being used are not optimized for AMD hardware so the programs don't end up properly using all the power that the thread ripper can offer. AMD has been battling this for a couple years now but I just don't really seem them add optimization for them cuz they don't care about them.
@1idd0kun
@1idd0kun 5 лет назад
@@nathanielmobley4362 Apple is big enough to easily put pressure on software vendors to optimize for AMD hardware. They're already doing that with the GPUs. They had slides listing a lot of pro software vendors who are working to support the Mac Pro GPUs. It would be trivial for Apple to do the same for CPUs if they wanted to.
@nathanielmobley4362
@nathanielmobley4362 5 лет назад
@@1idd0kun Well then you run into the other problem of a lot of people pushing stuff to render farms and such for big projects and Intel completely controls the server market ( having about 97%-98% of the entire server market). That aside while Apple could do that they don't want to because in a couple years they're going to move to their own CPU that they manufacture and control. That's their long term goal, so I have a feeling that they're just sticking with Intel until they can finalize their desktop-class CPUs but seeing as how the chip in the iPad pro outperforms a lot of i7s on the market I don't think it will be that long. That's when they'll put the pressure on the market to do what they want and give optimization to them. They could really care less about AMD tbh.
@1idd0kun
@1idd0kun 5 лет назад
@@nathanielmobley4362 I don't know why Apple went with Intel and I don't care. But if you think Apple will ever managed to produce high-end CPUs on their own, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. ARM simply can't touch the performance of x86. They might be able to produce CPUs for laptops and such, but that's about it.
@RealWorldReview
@RealWorldReview 5 лет назад
I am definitely going to call it 10DR instead of XDR lol
@aeonicphoenix5618
@aeonicphoenix5618 5 лет назад
Can't wait to see your Mac pro this fall 👍
@bigbeastmusicjamaica
@bigbeastmusicjamaica 4 года назад
This guy is as fluent as they come,love his presentation and friendly yet concise tone....as always stay snazzy!!!!
@Leggir
@Leggir 5 лет назад
Maybe with the uptake in viewership after attending LTXEXPO, you can get the Top Sku. 😊
@p3chv0gel22
@p3chv0gel22 5 лет назад
I like this Cheese Grater look. But i'm first not rich enough for any Apple product (litetally for me as a student at his first Semester in Germany (no pay for university) a iPad for 300€ is to expensive) and second don't know what i would need a Mac Pro for
@definitelynotobama6851
@definitelynotobama6851 5 лет назад
globetrotter this is very much a niche product for very heavy duty creative work. Apple probably won't make very many of them to begin with. Unless you're looking for an enterprise-level computer, you won't need the Mac pro.
@thelanguagemonk
@thelanguagemonk 5 лет назад
@@definitelynotobama6851 watch production start ramping up because of youtubers, who don't really need it, but will buy it just to review it hoping to make back the cost with ad revenue and keep it for bragging rights and video/thumbnail eyecandy...
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 5 лет назад
Well hopefully your studies will allow you to be able to afford such things in the not too distant future.
@oversightentertainment6733
@oversightentertainment6733 5 лет назад
Very informative; thank you...... ...... ......
@kungfujesus06
@kungfujesus06 5 лет назад
Speaking from my hackintosh experience, no optane module works with OS X, it kernel panics on boot when the NVMe driver loads if you have an optane drive installed.
@visualsofjc
@visualsofjc 5 лет назад
Welp I’ll be living my dream of owning one of these through you I guess 😂🤷🏻‍♂️
@PhillipBlanton
@PhillipBlanton 5 лет назад
Do I not see four USB-C ports and an HDMI port above the power supply at about 6:12?
@jefdamen2977
@jefdamen2977 4 года назад
Jep
@AlejandroLZuvic
@AlejandroLZuvic 4 года назад
That's the graphics card, so it's likely only DisplayPort over USB-C.
@IAMDIMITRI
@IAMDIMITRI 5 лет назад
Do they use dust filters? I mean I had this kind of case about 10 years ago. It was better at collecting dust then a vacuum.
@IAMDIMITRI
@IAMDIMITRI 5 лет назад
​@@derisivepersona798 Even if the environment is not dusty, it will still collect lots of dust. I have no idea why they would design a case for that price without a mesh.
@RusstafaB
@RusstafaB 5 лет назад
Totally satisfied with my iMac Pro thanks. Like the expansion but in reality, I will just by a Sonnet TB3 cage if I ever need it. Think this machine is for really very high end/fast turnaround stuff and will do that job very nicely
@mixedbagclips2511
@mixedbagclips2511 5 лет назад
Finally they did it! The computer I need!! But can’t afford... 🤣
@BBnose
@BBnose 5 лет назад
Is it just me ? The old design G5 Mac Pro looked better than the new one
@emilianoandrade7946
@emilianoandrade7946 5 лет назад
BBnose nah its just you the new one looks good too mate
@alexandrecouture2462
@alexandrecouture2462 5 лет назад
Just for info, the G5 version was called PowerMac G5 and the intel cpu version was called Mac Pro. But yes, the G5 design was gorgeous in its era.
@ReedHarston
@ReedHarston 5 лет назад
To address the ‘should have used AMD Threadripper’ comments: First off, I love AMD’s current CPU lineup and I’d currently pick one of their chips for a personal build. But we’re not taking about our personal builds here, we’re talking about Apple’s top of the line workstation. While Threadripper (TR) has much better price per performance than the Xeons Apple chose, TR doesn’t currently support more than 128 GB of RAM, has lower single thread performance, and only had 4 channel memory vs the 6 provided by the Xeons. That said, AMD does have a line of chips that is made to better compete with Xeon. AMD’s EPYC lineup supports much more RAM than TR (not sure how much exactly though), has eight channel memory, and up to 128 PCIe lanes (if not always, I can’t remember anymore). So EPYC is the real competition to these Intel chips. While I don’t know what their prices are like, they are definitely better than these Xeons, but still not cheap. So really your argument should be, ‘Should have used AMD EPYC’. However, the biggest issue I see (can’t say if Apple has some sort of agreement with Intel to only use their chips, as Quinn mentioned) is that that of design philosophy. And that is why I believe Apple chose Intel’s Xeons over EPYC. Apple’s design lines up with Intel’s CPU design more than it does with AMD’s. Apple is about using the ‘best of the best’ with no compromise (except when it comes to thermals apparently... come on Apple!) where AMD is more about balance. Put simply, Intel delivers the type of CPU that is closer to what Apple wants. They want the highest possible performance, even if it comes at a higher cost. Intel’s chips cost more because they are monolithic versus AMD’s Zen based chips which use relatively cheap ‘cookie cutter’ four and eight core designs they can stick together with infinity fabric. The extra glue (glue is the proper industry term actually) in between AMD’s Zen cores is the type of compromise Apple prefers to avoid if possible. I love it, despite its performance hits, because it provides a more balanced system for less money, and I think it’s a great design for those who can live with the compromise. But this machine is all about ‘no compromise’. Bonus point: switching to EPYC would also mean rebuilding/changing a whole bunch of the tools, firmware, and drivers that Apple currently uses. They’d then have to validate and prove the reliability of these brand new tools and drivers and all of that other junk that comes with such a switch, all for their lowest volume product that also needs to be their most reliable. Not much incentive to switch there. But again, I see design philosophy as treason number one they don’t use AMD. If Apple wanted to switch they’d be able to humor through these hoops and make it work. I just don’t see them wanting too (especially with a potential switch to their one ARM based chips potentially in the works already).
@jamerican347
@jamerican347 5 лет назад
Reed Harston Interesting perspective. Thanks.
@miguelagueda3928
@miguelagueda3928 5 лет назад
There has been no change to the pci-e standard for the maximum power delivery through the pci-e slot, it's still 75w. They just have officially supported cards over 225w through external power. This is what I've seen in all articles AFAIK. If you can link any information saying otherwise, I'll be glad to check it out
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