The 2020 Porsche Macan Turbo is a Luxury Rally Car - One Take 

back when the podcast started (episode 19 "tales of grenwich" is the best episode ever) they had a segment about tickets and what mail relating to it matt had recieved, they ran adds for "mrticket" for a full year

Gotta appreciate that hustle.

the universe rewards hustle

the universe rewards hustle.

well it's a tit for tit kinda thang

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There are rumors that the GT department is developing a Cayenne Coupe GT. If this is true there could also be a Macan GT :)

Shove a 4.0 in the macan porsche

Yes

Love my S as well, so comfortable, natural leather upgrade, air suspension, pasm, etc..sweeeet!

Give it a cobb accessport tune like I did to my 15' Macan S! Problem solved!

@@JasenDelgado Most people have a lease lol. Cant cobb it lol. Been really interested in a Macan tho.

And a DSG.

They have. The Bentley W12 is essentially 2 VR6 engines cast together. Huge power.

It's called Arteon R.

Flat 6 or bust

"Cheap Nissan GTR" is probably the highest praise you could give a Porsche's sound outside of the old Cayman GT4 and Carrera GT.

You’re spot on the gtr sounds like shit

Azenturi Yh right lad you’re funny

@@RealRaynedance I dont think you understood his comment

Exactly, I'll let someone else take the majority of the depreciation. Have never and will never purchase a luxury car new, wait 2-3 years and save 60% for a luxury car, for the performance models it needs a couple more years.

you can get a great certified macan under 45k. that's what I got my eyes on in a year or two.

@@shoumikpennathur1790 me too, coming from an E90 M3. Looking forward to it

@L V are you dumb? Macan suvs are about half off after 2-3 years with low miles. All these cars do the same thing go look at a stelvio qv or an audi sq5

But what about a BMW 340i estate

Will Satchwell I’m not sure about Macans specifically, but other Porsches I’m looking at the CPO’s (for 1-2 year old 911’s) are offered with unlimited mileage Porsche warranties and are honestly looking like pretty good buys for daily driver material if you’re willing to eat a little bit extra depreciation (coz paying a little more than a non-CPO). I’d be shocked if Porsche didn’t have similar deals for the CPO Macans. I’d be all over that if looking for a daily driver to rack up miles on.

I'm in year 5 of Macan Turbo ownership and I can think of no better vehicle to own for anyone who only has one car. My wife has a larger SUV now though so I might have to pick up a Taycan. The GTS is the sweet spot of the range. When I bought at launch they only had S & Turbo.

Go for a Macan or Stelvio (not my words: www.evo.co.uk/bmw/x3/202087/bmw-x3-m-2020-review-the-right-ingredients-in-a-very-wrong-package)

x6 m50i

Macan is better driving and better interior than X3

Porsche is Porsche.

@@DimiGem too heavy

denhoffer they’re an option on the GT3 and are standard on the GT3RS, and when you consider the macan weighs 4400lbs and is quicker, got more top end and better handling then a lot of supercars and sports cars

Kyle B Nope, they are still a $9,200 option even on the 2019 GT3RS, and that’s for good reason. Trust me, I have one. They steels give more than enough force and durability for the car on track as I track the car frequently. I give you the Macan weighs a lot more but who is tracking a Macan often in reality? And even at that the steels would be fine. And I’m sorry but the Macan Turbo is by no means something that would keep up with a supercar...

denhoffer I mean you might no something I don’t but as far as everything I can find it stated the gt3 optioned as a rs comes with carbon ceramic brakes. Have you driven an older “super” car (pre even 2006) they all realistically handle pretty crapply and very few can even match the 0-62 times of the macan, and most barely beat its top speed and based on how well my old cayenne turbo S drove its gonna handle better than a gallardo, countach, testarossa and a Ferrari Modena which is as far as my actual experience driving supercars that don’t handle great is concerned

denhoffer ceramics are just better at every temperature, that goes for the cold as well.

I like V6 sound more than V8.

Yep

And the same platform as the Q5. It is basically the "RS" version that Audi doesn't have.

Can't forget Toyota's 2GR. Absolute monster of a note on that motor.

tbh I think of the Macan more as a slightly bigger and lifted hot hatch. It's not a big car compared to a lot of other cars on the road.

Very similar cars. I've tested both and purchased the Macan driving experience is not even comparable

It's probably the same engine but slightly detuned compared typ rs4/rs5. It's still the vag group and they usually share platforms/engines between cars.

It's the exact same engine mechanically, but with different mapping. But thats more down to how the engine is supposed to behave in an SUV configuration vs how it is supposed to behave in a Coupé.

Thanks

food network and practice!

GLC63 S is definitely quicker in a straight line, however as soon as there's a corner its got no chance...

Coming from a E90 M3 owner, drove both, think I'm gonna do the Macan.

X3M is incredibly stiff for a daily. Feels like a table with wheels

@@2334spike but what if you live in Austria?

@@dragospahontu I've driven one, including Austria ( on winter tyres ) and it was the stiffest SUV ever. Both from the driver and passenger seat. Some cars are stiff, but they doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, but this one really made me anxious on B roads. On smooth tarmac, it's fine, but that's general rule, even LMP1 car will feel great 😂. Long story short. Macan Turbo is better almost in every aspect, except speed and engine note. So if you are after the fastest SUV in it's class, that sacrifices comfort for sportiness, go for it.

Al_Marionetter h

Greg S no, he did not forget, btw, it isn’t coming, it is already here

100% yes.

always do a PPI on a used german car, but they are very nice.

Rollan test drive them both

FWIW I'm going to replace my E90 M3 with it soon. M3 is a great car but with kids need a bit more space and this seems like a great replacement

@@Procur3 seems like 340i wagon? Macan has small boot...

I'm actually so glad he said this because I'm considering my f80 M3 for a Macan GTS or Turbo, and literally no one compares these two vehicles.

Well, it's not just a plastic pedal, that's the thing. The previous car had a pure polymer one, this one is a composite material.

I'm pretty sure that you're the only one. Veeery few exhaust systems sound good on the VQ in particular

Snape if you think I’m the only one who likes the VQ and VR sound then you’re pretty naive or just don’t pay attention.

Vq's sound like someone ripped ass through trumpet. They're horrible

would comp with Macan S

Matt, what do you like more? The Macan S or X3/4M40i?

Daniel V i would never get another BMW because of reliability issues and very high cost of ownership

All cabrios :)

Porsche. NBA players drive them. Cheers.

That's probably true, you're talking about a 4,000 lb car with a four-cylinder. Gotta compromise somewhere.

@@TheSmokingTire yet a similar sized engine say on the GLC 300 performs well on the highway.

@@Andrew-zv4fm I mean, come on. Is "I've heard it falls flat" and "The GLC performs well" supposed to be some kind of scientific comparison? The macan 2.0t does the quarter mile in 14.52 seconds, and the GLC does it in 14.1 seconds. This is not a significant difference for cars like this, especially when you're talking about the very slowest version of both the Macan and GLC.

@@TheSmokingTire I guess the point I am trying to make is that with 4 bangers on more or less similar sized SUVs they are a hit or a miss. Not saying anything bad about the 4 banger Maccan, something I am interested in. But some of the reviews I have seen and read say that on highway the 4 banger Maccan doesn't perform well. Like I said it is something I am interested and and I would keep an open mind on.

You have no fucking clue buddy! The 2 liter fourcylinder from Porsche/Audi is just a very good option as an entry level Macan engine. "It falls flat on its face at highway speeds"... Really??? WTF are you talking? Listen, buddy: here in Germany the 2 liter fourcylinder engine is quite the standard engine, even in the Porsche Macan, and I can tell you that on the Autobahn this engine won't fall flat. It's just another very dynamic and quite economic Porsche engine in a relatively small SUV for American taste. In the USA you have such a ridiculously low speed limit, that you really should trust what Germans are telling you about the performance of the Macan on the German Autobahn! You really have no fucking clue about really fast Autobahn cruising speed with such a Macan! What you talk about "US highway speeds" is just a ridiculously warm up speed here on a German Autobahn... LOL!. The average speed with a Porsche Macan on the Autobahn won't be lower than 130 mph /200 kmh. It's just another Autobahn bombproof car from Porsche. And it has just a very good fourcylinder engine, even in a not too light small SUV... Porsche engines never disappoint!

Yes

I didn't think Porshe share their engines. Other parts yes.

Spontaneous Evolution this is, Porsche has been developing a couple of VAG engines, where do you think the 4.0tt v8 in the Audi’s are from.....

@@papaannefranku9693 No, we didn't develop that one. The new one is actually for the most part an Audi creation. That being said, you can't really say "brand A developed this" or "brand P developed that" anymore, because most of the time its a joint effort anyways, with just more input from engineers of one or the other company.

Yes, mechanically its the same engine. Just that its tuned slightly differently.

A lot of places have a luxury tax for engines over 3000cc , so this new engine made it a lot more affordable

@@ihatehandles3 Exactly. Porsche made a business decision to increase market share. Sean, I wouldn't consider this engine a downgrade. From all the reports this engine seems to be well built and very tuneable.

Doesn't fucking matter what you "prefer"... buddy! Fact is, that the 2.9 liter V6 engine is the way more modern engine, which has better numbers in every aspect. This engine is fantastic. You certainly have no experience in driving both engines. You are just talking ... blah blah man! "Lesser engines" is quite funny too... Audi engines are on the same level of quality.