The 2022 Honda Civic Si Is a Sporty-ish Civic 

Nice to see Doug review more affordable cars.

I think Doug nailed it on who the buyer is. They're not thinking oh the gli/gti/veloster are faster for a little more money. They're thinking oh this car is faster than your standard daily and still has good fuel economy. It's a manual, it's fun, but you don't have to feel guilty about driving it.

I miss Doug actually breaking down the scores and why he gave them. I always liked that.

I like Doug's theory about the buyers being looking at the regular Civic but the biggest problem with that is most causal buyers aren't looking for a stick shift.

I don’t know soooo many people complain about the power seats. The manual rail to go forward and backward is better and faster obviously. 1 less electrical item to fail and cost the customer hundreds of dollars in the distant future.

They didn't want the si to be "too good" and make people not want to spend more for a Type R. Looks like mission accomplished I'd say.

My wife and I both own Volkswagens, and let me tell you...regardless of the power comparison, the Civic SI will be on the road looooong after the Jetta GLI has been sent to the junkyard. It will also destroy the GLI on resale value and maintenance costs.

Just to clarify the navigation option on the instrument cluster is also for Android Auto and Apple Carplay rather than just a compass. Just be sure to have a destination set, it will show you the turns and distances.

Its disappointing to see the Canadian version get a full digital dash, heated seats, and heated steering wheel all at a cheaper price than the US version. The handling and feel is there, not sure why Honda always holds out on just bumping up the power a little bit and make it standard, not making people buy some Type R to get some real power. That’s always been the Achilles heel of the SI, relatively underwhelming power numbers. Honda should've increased the horsepower of the Si, it's been 200hp for a long while now. Competitors have increased the power of their performance cars while the Civic Si is stuck at 200 horsepower.

I love how doug teases the next car he's about to review whenever he's promoting cars and bids

It’s kinda interesting how 3 times in a row now Honda has followed the same pattern for the even/odd generations of the Civic. The even generations (6, 8, 10) all had bold new styling directions, represented massive leaps forward in tech and generally felt much more expensive than they actually were. The odd generations (7, 9, 11) have all felt like softer, cheaper feeling and more conservatively styled iterative versions of the generation that preceded them.

everyone seems to forget that the civic si was never mean to be some crazy fast sports car that everyone and their mom wanted. It has always been a pretty basic car with better handling and slightly more power than your average car. The 2022 seems to nail that one perfectly, with the car handling great and making 220hp(handata proved this on a stock 2022 si) it seems to me like it’s the perfect car for someone who wants reliability, good fuel economy, and a slightly sportier version of your average commuter car. i do agree that honda skimped on some things with the car but i believe that with the aftermarket support this car is already seeing it will be a great car for the right person

Hasn’t “Si” always translated to “Sporty ish” when compared to the type R’s?

This has changed into a semi quick daily driver to the bare bones to get it cheap (but not really what I'd call cheap) . It's definitely no sports car any longer.

Honda reliability, very affordable, fantastic 6 speed manual, great daily driver (gas milage, comfortable), sporty handling. Not a bad package

I have a 2018 Si and I absolutely love it. The handling is impeccable. It also has all of the missing amenities this new version doesn't(heated seats, dual climate control, etc.)

Canadian version of the Si is based on the top Touring trim, meaning it has larger screen, heated seats and wheel, navi and all the goodies. US customers get an EX model platform for the Si.

I feel that Honda dropped the ball with this one for the US market. My 2020 Si has heated seats, dual zone climate control and fog lights. It also has adjustable suspension tho that might not matter much once you swap out for coilovers. Tho the new fly wheel and rev matching is nice.

I was looking for a new civic to replace my truck so I can actually save money while having a mortgage. I was just bored by the CVT and also the 158 or 180 hp option in the sedan. This checked the box with the manual, plus the extra horsepower and mod friendliness is all appealing to me. When I get bored later I can mod it and easily have 250 hp reliably. I don’t need 300 horsepower, it will be my daily kid toter too. Just waiting until my truck is payed off in February to sell and buy. I will lower my monthly payment by $350 and save almost $200 a month in gas.🤷‍♂️

I used to have a 2012 Civic SI, it had 201 HP. It's downright embarrassing that a decade later the Civic SI is *DOWN* 1 HP.

Hondata's dyno has actually clocked this in at 222 hp and 233 lbft stock, so Honda have just been dumbing the numbers down.

As an auto technician who likes to keep his car for a long time, this car is for me! Also you can probably get a tune to crank up the boost to get extra 10-15hp which is not bad😆👍

This car does look a million times better than mentioned alternatives though, for a few grand cheaper too. And still a bit of performance.

Doug, mechanic here, most modern cars have a g meter for the ABS system. They just programed it to show on the dash. It didn't cost extra in parts, just programming.

I know that no navigation system sounds weird, but if this has Android Auto or Apple Car Play, is it really necessary? I don't think it's that bad, and honestly, maybe auto makers should move away from having proprietary nav systems, especially since most of us use our phones for nav anyway

In Mexico the Honda Civic Si is sold as Honda Civic Yes. Thank you, I'll see myself out!

I didn't like the new civic design at first, but seeing it in this color makes me like it quite a bit more. Looks awesome with the black wheels

Doug was basically like "Oh I forgot. You guys are poor." 😂

Only OG fans will remember period when Doug sell signed photographs for a while. Such a cringe times.

Back in 2006 I had a co-worker who got an Si coupe new. It was a genuinely nice car and Honda was ahead of the curve. This Si seems cheap in comparison. I am in Canada but am sure an Si would be close to $40K CDN right now if you could even find one.

Nice walk thru. You are the man to come check any 'quirks and features' to know about any car. Double👍👍 keep up the great work

When are they gonna put a V12 in a Civic - been waiting for years.

2:33 it's a 1.5L 4 cylinder... I was very confused looking at the engine only having 4 cylinders and he said 5

My dad had the last gen si. It was a very fun car to learn a stick shift in. I learned how to drive like Paul walker and a stick shift in it so it will always be special to me. It took turns so well it would scare my friends

Doug is always coming in Clutch!! Great review man!

Got my 2018 SI brand new off the truck in 2018 for 23k out the door. Crazy how the market is now. That 30k price range is very competitive

The 5 cylinder slip up reminds me that I really want an RS3 still 😂

That old red Civic SI that Doug showed is what my dad had in college. '86 Civic CRX Si

My 2003 TL 3.2 (not type S) had 229 hp IIRC and had adequate horsepower whenever I needed it. And it weighed about 500 lbs more. Not everyone needs more than that. I think the availability of that power, handling, braking etc. are just as important. That 30 mpg is important too. I'm just as interested in that. I guess what I'm saying is, balance is a great thing in a car and it seems if you care about the performance side enough that a base Civic just doesn't quite do it for you, there's the Si.

I'll keep my 18 civic Si. Bought it brand new with 7 miles. I haven't had to put a dime into it, other than maintenance. I just now replaced my factory tires last week at 4 years 62k miles. They took away heated seats, fog lights and dual climate control. next!! Lol I would love to go to Canada and buy a Canadian Si, they come with alot more bells and whistles. But if I did that, honda in the US wouldn't do warranty work on a Canadian Si that is daily driven

I like how Doug mentioned the MPG. I have a 2020 Si and drive it fairly hard and still get over 35mpg (with premium, which is recommended). The new WRX gets...21mpg combined...woof!

I owned a 7th gen. Civic Si and loved it. It's still one of my favorite cars I've had. So I have a bit of a soft spot for the Si. I like the looks of the new Civic and Si, but I'm more disappointed by what the US market doesn't get than about the horsepower decrease. (Also, from what I've seen online most dyno reports are showing it's actually more than 200 hp.) I think Honda held back knowing some or most of the missing features will be included on the new Acura Integra, I'm sure in part to justify the higher price of that car. But I bet Honda will add some of those features to Si over the next few years. Still, I would consider buying a new Si if there were any around for sale, and there wasn't a ridiculous dealer markup attached.

I’ve had my Si for about 5 weeks now. They’re pricier than the list price because of dealer markups. I drove a Jetta GLI with paddle shift a couple years ago and while the Honda is down on power it is a much much nicer feeling car than the VW-even our local Subaru dealer admits this is a nicer car than the WRX. I’m autocrossing mine and the tires stink but it was otherwise very satisfying to push hard. The Si is composed, refined, and when the warranty expires there won’t be any VW repair bills. Horsepower isn’t everything (though torque may be, and the Si is a low end torque beast).

How many years have we been hearing: “one of the laaast manual transmissions!”

Hold it a minute- How many of you including Doug have driven this car for any length of time. I have and can say it is way more fun to drive than many of my previous rides- including a 2019 Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio with 505 HP, several Ford Mustang GT's of the 80's and early '90's, Z28 Camaros of the same era, a 2014 Porsche Cayman , and throw in a 1970 BMW 2002 and a 1972 Alfa Romeo GTV. This car for the money is as good as it gets. It steers, handles rides and hustles just fine. For the street it is the ideal little rocket. And the power output is well underrated by Honda. Hondata as well as others that have dyno'd these out of the showroom are getting 220- 230HP. But HP isn't the main thing, it is the broad torque band that saves the day. Where my Alfa Quad would spin the tires any time you pressed on the gas in race mode- it is fun for a few minutes until you realize you can't use the power on the street. With this gem you can play all day and feel like you are going fast, and you are going quickly, just not insane fast. This car is fun and I put it up there with my 1970 BMW and 1972 Alfa- that had 100 HP less! And what are two classics known in the sports car world- that '70 BMW and that '72 Alfa GTV. I considered spending the extra on the Elantra N but could not justify the extra $$ to have quicker 0-60 times and a few more amenities.

Good review. I’m not so happy to see the changes Honda has made in comparison to the rest of the market. I guess I’ll be keeping my ‘15 Si.

I love hearing your perspective Doug! Great review!

I recently got a 2022 Honda civic but not the SI and I completely agree with the backseat being roomy. Out of all of its competitors and I have tried them all it has the roomiest backseat of any of them. I honestly don’t know how they do it but I’m so glad they do and I’m so glad I got it.

In the next couple of years, this car is going to be riced out. 😂

When i bought my 23' Si I was cross-shopping with the Corolla SE M/T and the Sentra SR Turbo M/T. This car slots perfectly between those and cars like the GTI and WRX

“…..you start to wonder if it’s that much cheaper…..”. Doug says this when discussing the absence of heated seats and steering wheel. That’s a value consideration for sure, but this is cheaper than it’s competitors. That’s factually the case. I think Doug has missed the point of this car. It’s quick enough and it handles quite well and it has an engaging demeanor about it. These are things that enthusiast drivers want. It also can carry people and things. I drove one and liked it quite a bit. I drove a veloster N also. It’s much much quicker but not as fun. If you want to drag race, don’t buy the Honda. If you want a mix of fun and practicality with really good value (as one considers the price of a new car is now 40k)…..don’t fail to consider this little Honda. Could be my next car.

Seems like a perfect tuners car. Cheap stuff and good cornering.

Doug while you say this car doesn't have the "performance" to match its class of cars, the Si is currently the Autocross champ in its class (Versus the GTI and Focus ST at National level events). Reason being its light weight, good differential, great handling and the ability to adjust front camber.

As for the navigation portion of the instrument clusters. On newer Honda models, it displays navigation instructions while you have a destination programmed into the car. Otherwise, you just see the compass. My 2018 accord was the same way.

would have been nice to see them bring back the coupe body style for this car, especially since the rear seats have been simplified so much

I really like this Honda Civic Si , it has an aggressive design without being exaggerated like the previous one.

The more I learn about this car, the more it reminds me of my 2006 TSX 6MT-right down the shifter!

People who buy these love Hondas and enjoy driving to work each day.

This was a good review. On point with whats needed to be know 👍👍

The tail lights on the trunk are very similar to the ones on newer volkswagen models. The levers to fold down the rear seats is also similar to to the ones that VW uses.

I have the 2018 which cost $24k. The Gen 10 DID have heated seats, as well as fog lights, dual zone climate control and a sun roof. Im surprised they downgraded it though Ive heard claims that the new Si actually makes more hp than it claims I think that navigation compass works when you use Android Auto/Apple Carplay

Nice review sad to see so many options missing on this car. I’ll wait and see if they add some of the missing options over the next couple years.

These videos are informative, entertaining, and I lose weight just watching this guy.

For a pretty much $30K+ car (after taxes), it does feel pretty barebones in some of those interior areas that were pointed out. Sure, 200HP isn't great either for 2022 but I'll forgive the power figures more so than interior amenities. I don't care for a heated seat or steering wheel or a wireless charger. These are niceties for sure but none of those are a dealbreaker for me. Also someone buying this, there's a good chance they are a Honda enthusiast but may throw some bolt-on performance parts on it over time and no OEM has as much aftermarket support more than Honda's so there won't be any shortage of bolt-on parts for this car in a few months time to eek out a few more horses for not much money.

Perhaps Honda was thinking since the Civic has such huge aftermarket support that they didn't need to increase the power or add some of the "normal" features on most other cars. Idk

These are gonna make the older models with heated seats, dual zone climate, and other features a lot more valuable

How’s he gonna included destination charges in referencing the Si price but not include it when comparing to Elantra N and GLI prices? If this Si is “around 29k” then the other two are around 33-35k… which is more than 3k more than Si.

Actually, Honda underrated the horsepower on this model , this car’s horsepower is about 225 to 230. I have a 2022 Honda Civic SI and it dyno’d at 228 hp with no modifications at all, exactly the way I purchased it from the dealership !

Has Doug done a video of the 90s Dodge Dynasty? I'd like to see it. Wow I can't believe how big the Civic has become. It looks like an Accord

I love how low key it is. I wish they did one with WRX power levels and the type r made even more. This looks so much better than WRX and I’m def a WRX and STI fan and even owned a 17 STI but this is just a clean nice daily. I like this more than mk8 gti. I wish the civic hatch wasn’t hideous tho :(

Not review related, but I love Doug’s shirt, a first gen Highlander. As an owner of one I love that he has one on his shirt considering how no one really pays attention to them

I like it because it is a Honda and a manual. Having an affordable, reliable manual is worth more to me than any other the other stuff including more power.

$28k for a 200 hp Civic Si... blows my mind. I remember when the 300hp STi was first released in NA for $31k and everyone thought it was so expensive.

This was always the car I considered perfect for my 16 yr old, fairly sporty, forgiving and reliable at a price point I can afford. Or in other words, a good daily beater for those long commutes into an major urban center.

Love mine. Cheap fun and function for daily commutes. Sound system is adequate, tech is fine. Cloth seats in the back are a cost cut but front seats are more than adequate. It’s not fast but the turbo kick is enough to enjoy at street speeds. Probably not something I would ever track though bc I think it would be out of its league. If you want more power and luxury then look elsewhere but this is definitely worth a look. Looks much more grown up than the last iteration also.

Thank you for this Doug. Nice lil refresher with this being video being relatable to myself. Lol 👌🙌

Only a Honda enthusiast will get the significance of the subtle changes made to this Si. It's not about the horsepower but how that power is delivered. '80-'90's era CRX Si's and VW GTI's barely had over 100 horsepower but the driving "fun factor" they delivered was "off the charts". Honda knocked it out the park with this one !

There was no 2021 Honda Civic Si because the Honda Civic Si had to take a break in 2021, but then 2022 Honda Civic Si came in.

I quite like the 1.5T but I do miss the charm of the high reving 2.0 and its 197 horsepower. Honda sure knows how to make inexpensive, fun vehicles in a sea of appliances.

For someone who's springing to step up from a normal Civic I'm sure they would find this quite fast and sporty. I think the problem with Doug is he's just been in too many supercars and it's very difficult for him to give real reviews on these lower-priced models. I saw another reviewer who actually bought the car for himself and the entire video is him being absolutely giddy and in love with this car over his BMW M-series, so it's all a matter of perspective.

This Honda is sexy in a weird way

When the Si badge means as much the AMG and M ones… What times we live in…

Still. Sticking With my rare Lightweight 8200rpm EK Civic. Breaks necks all day. You can hear that Vtec coming from a mile away. And people at events and cars and coffee gather around to take pics and ask about modifications done to it. I haven't seen any new Si Civics getting crowds or pictures taken.

I could see this being ideal as a precise driving manual economy car for all that much money. People who aren't looking for performance numbers but want a nice feeling manual

This might be the most analogue new car Doug has reviewed in the last year. Lots of people want cars with less interior power features and screen-based tech

Doug should do the corolla SE, so we can compare the biggest competition there is. Both are sporty versions of a compact small reliable car!

I would agree with Doug about the pricing being "not THAT much cheaper" ... Until you factor in a $649 Ktuner that can immediately add 50WHP to it.

I wanted to buy this but now I’m not so sure. My 2008 Civic Si was similarly equipped (same horsepower, no fogs, no dual zone climate control, etc.) but the MSRP when I bought it new was $19k. $28k now seems steeper than it needs to be.

For what it’s worth, the new Si made 225hp and 210lb-ft on Hondata’s hub dyno. The old one made 205hp and 226lb-ft on the same dyno. The new one responded way better to a tune as well.

I was between this car and Elantra N Line, and after running down the list, the superior driving experience of the SI honestly was not enough to sway me, especially for a lower price. The interior features and exterior styling of the N Line, with a similar level of fun behind the wheel made me turn towards it rather than this Civic SI. Will be interesting to see sales figures of this versus the Elantra N Line, as they are probably the two closest competitors on the market now.

I'll never understand why Canada got heated seats, dual zone climate control, alert lights on the mirrors, front parking sensors, wireless charger and a full digital dash with the shift lights. I get that there are different trims there, but it would be nice to have those as options in the states

I believe the 2006-2011 Si was the last great civic model. The K20 was such an unbelievably reliable, angry and powerful base for what could be anything you wanted. It’s really been downhill since. Just my .02

I bought my 19 Si for 22K OTD and I have tons more features than this Si has....imagine paying 35K +Taxes after markups lmao

So two counterpoints for Dougs comments about performance, the first being that while it has been rated for 5hp less, when Hondata had dynoed the car it actually was making 220hp vs the 10th gens 201hp. Secondly, the 0-60 for the 10th gen was pretty deceptive towards its actual speed because of the gearing you actually have to shift a 3rd time to hit 60 throwing off the 0-60 number for that car and I'm assuming its the same for this one. It's still not the fastest car in its class but its a lot more competitive than the numbers sound.

I had a 1 year old 88 Civic DX, 5 speed stick, ♥️♥️♥️ it

I like the look of this new Civic Si. I also find it interesting that trim levels can be fairly different between Canada and the US. The Si in the Canadian market has heated seats, heated steering wheel, moon roof, wireless charge pad, power windows, and charge ports in the back seat.

I've been waiting for you to review the new integra!

I really don't understand why the US gets an Si like this since the Canadian Si gets all performance upgrades on top of a fully loaded Civic and the US model is kinda stripped out.

I got a GTI SE and this Civic was the only other car I was looking at, I'm happy I went with the VW but I respect the SI and it seems like a legit car for the price.

Didn't mention the standard sunroof or Bose stereo system. Not everybody expects the power of a Ford GT, but for the money, it's a nice put together package.