not for 35K markup + taxes it isn't...I got my 2019 Si for 22K OTD and it comes with foglights, heated seats, shift lights, dual zone climate, full digital center cluster, adaptive dampers, etc
@@jayman81424 that's incredibly rare to find one for that price right now...everything is inflated...I am still extremely happy that I got my 10th gen Si for 22K OTD and it has much more features that they took away from the 11th gen....you can't beat that price
@@jayman81424 I got lucky and was able to pick one up for 28k before tax and title which came out to about 32 after tax and title. It's like you said, just gotta find the right dealer. It sucks tho because there were some dealers marking up almost 20k when I was looking for one
Marked up everywhere I’ve gone. Not a budget car when it’s 37k-39k with taxes, fees, markup. Sub 30k out the door, yes great value. Close to 40k due to greedy dealers, not a good value.
One nice thing you showed is something I had wondered about. By using the individual mode, you can get the good throttle response but not have the fake sounds like you get in sport mode. Good to know.
Unfortunately they aren't a good price right now though. Would be GREAT value for MSRP, but the cheapest offer I've found is $5k over, and there are *specific* instances of them going for $20k over with basically just tint added. If they were actually going for MSRP I'd be picking one of these up instead of a GR86, because my GOD these are absolutely brilliant.
I was able to put a deposit down and order my 2022 civic si at MSRP. However I had to visit several different stealerships and had to bargain heavily for it.
You can still find them at MSRP, my dealer sells all new cars at MSRP. Unfortunately for most people it is a long drive to get them at MSRP but I'd say it's worth it
@@UnrelatedNonsense same..10 dealers later i found an actual honda dealer that doesnt add net for demand. I put deposit on a black one which is exact color i wanted and best buy i ever bought 😃
You're way too hung up on Honda's stated hp numbers. You plead for another fifteen horsepower, seemingly unaware that it already makes almost twenty-five more than you think it does. Placebo Effect, in reverse. You read that it's underpowered, so that's how you automatically see it. Never mind that the car makes 222 hp on the dyno, which is exactly where you and so many other reviewers are saying it needs to be in order to satisfy you. No idea why Honda is sandbagging here, but they are, so be happy. You got what you wanted. Well, except for the missing equipment form last year's model, or this year's Canadian-spec model. Considering the price hike Honda gave this thing this year, yes, that part truly sucks.
Honda technician here, i personally think that the upgrades aren't worth it. You can't get a coupe, you lose the fog lights, and in the us you lose the heated seats. Of you have a 10th gen don't trade in of your looking to get into it, it's a great car
@@ColtenL1129 They get a way better interior for less money. They get heated front and rear seats. Heated steering wheel,full digital gauges,dual zone climate control, and a qi wireless phone charging pad. They also get fog lights on the outside.
@@ThaKenMan not less money, it's only less money on your end because of conversion rates. Canadians pay a little over 33k for it. Salary aren't different between both countries, we inherently "make less" internationally because of the value of the dollar. Only americans get the canadian civic si "cheaper" if you could import cars without any fees across the border. It would probably be similarly priced with all the features in the US, just in USD instead of CAD.
I'm still amazed that only Ford and Honda (although not all) adopted capless fuel ports. Next thing you know, EV adoption becomes mainstream and everyone just leap frogs that innovation.
@@MilesPerHr you'd think especially on gas guzzlers where you're pumping frequently or luxury cars, and imagine pumping and unscrewing a gas cap on an exotic. 😬
That fake engine noise is sooooooooooo cheesy🥴. That was one of the big things that drew me to a Mazda3 6-speed over some of the other entries in this segment. Sound and power delivery of the Mazda NA 2.5 is muchhhhhh more pleasing to me than any 1.5/1.6T. Revs drop much more naturally, too, with the manual. Admittedly the manual is no Civic Si manual and it doesn’t handle quite like this, but was definitely the right choice for me.
Admittedly true but at least there’s no fake sound piped in through the speakers. And NA makes for a much more pleasing manual experience compared to a 1.5/1.6T
I owned a 2011 mazda 3 2.5 gt, Civic Si 2014 and 2019, and I agree that I miss my 2.4 na engine in the 9th gen si. Even the Mazda 3 with the 2.5 was a really nice drive with a stick.
Super nice👌🏾 wonder if they’re make a similar car to the Prelude. It would be nice if they keep the sleek look with whatever new design they come up with.
No it stays in the setting you chose. If you turn it off it will remain off until you go into settings and change it. The Honda sensing also remembers your selection. But traction control and drive mode do reset to default on startup unfortunately
@@basslover352 I own it as well as having owned the 2020 Si and it isn't slow by any means.... It's balanced and it isn't a 0-60 car especially because of the gearing.. Anyways, I'm in Canada so we get it completely speced out... So it's an even better bargain.. You can't compare this car to a Gr86.. not at all the same kind of car..
@@gabrieledimatteo4888 I just expect a bit more in that department after so many years. My friends 8th gen si is still relevant. Also I never mentioned gr86 here.
@@TheFK8Life agreed that the 1.5L and 2L turbos are faster. But can’t deny that the naturally aspirated 2.4L’s are fun to rev out, makes good sounds, and the crossover at 5000rpm
@@yenny527 The K24z is dogshit - The K24a is worlds better The k20c1 type R needs cams and rods and revs to 8500 easily - needs port injection to be perfect but has proven to hold over 650whp with a stock head that doesnt flow well up top. With cams and rods they are making over 850whp now Eman is working on a plug and play K20c1 swap for Si owners - His 1.5L can go 10s but will most likely go 9s with his k20c1 swap com The new cars are heavy and need boost to be competitive in the modern market If you want a fast all motor car just build an old 1992 to 2000 civic with a built k24a...pretty cheap these days
Agree, can't get over the plain looks. No view of this civic looks good. Car is slower than previous gen. Interior isnt a huge upgrade. No adaptive suspension. Whats to like about this newer more expensive version?
