The 2022 NBA Draft did not disappoint. With a surprise pick of Paolo Banchero at 1st overall, a ton of trades, even more drama... and so much more. #nba #nbadraft #2022nbadraft
The Kings made it clear they wanted Murray weeks ago, the fact they didn't trade down when everyone else wanted Ivy is the most Kings thing the Kings could have done
No the Kings thing would've been taking a player that didnt want to be there (Ivey). They took the player they wanted. Murray is good too, its not a bad pick.
@@_kengi That's my thinking. I don't see a scenario where the Kings trade the 4th and still end up with Murray. Detroit won't trade up one spot because they know the Kings want Murray. The Pacers or the Blazers definitely take Murray if he was available instead of their picks. If you're the guy and you think Murray is the your guy (40% from 3pt with excellent cutting is a great match with Sabonis & Fox) then pick him rather than rolling the dice with a draft class where there's a clear drop off in potential after the top 5.
As an Iowa fan I watched him all year and he can definitely be a great nba player. I think the hate is unwarranted, everyone is just mad that it wasn’t Ivey
Are ppl hating on him or hating on the Kings for not getting more for a player everyone else wanted? He could be a better player than Ivey, who knows, but in this draft they had a valuable pick and didn't leverage it.
Things nobody are talking about: Jalen Williams, and Jaylin Williams both going to OKC AJ Griffin falling to 16 Cavs drafting Isaiah Mobley to team up with Evan Mobley
AJ Griffin to the Hawks is gonna be great for the hawks. I didn’t see him as a Top 10 talent in this class, but the fact he fell to 16 is shocking. The J Wills are gonna dominate the G-League And Isaiah Mobley, though not amazing, should be better than the Antetokoumpo Bros
Keegan averaged 25 in college and carried Iowa in the tournament and we got people who hadn't watched a single college game saying bro ass bc the kings drafted him
I think people are overblowing Jaden Ivey and underselling Keegan Murray. I agree. At the end of the day Murray had more points per game during the season. It's not certain Jaden is the better player until they play.
@@radityapoerwanto7018 Fox is great, everyone cried about Halliburton, Davion has looked good so far, Bagley was a missed but he’s very talented and injuries played a part in that, Kings aren’t as bad as drafting and developing as many have you believe
@@s2l4t9 Mitchell was a 'safe' pick than anything at 9th. Now watch out in about 2 years when Duarte (13th), Moody (14th) or Sengun (16th) develop their game enough to get a sizable bag that can be moved because teams value a passing big or a versatile 3&D shooting wing than a defensive minded small PG having to play defense alongside another small ass guard in Fox. Small back courts don't make for strong perimeter defenses as we've seen in the past.
@@t4d0W I see Davion continue to come off the bench while Davis starts and they get a SG in FA , and you act like those guys will develop while Davion just doesn’t, I can see him giving you Jalen Brunson like production and you see where his value is now (knicks cleared cap to try and give him a max) And Fox isn’t a “small as guard” he’s 6’3 the same height as Curry, Dame, Westbrook….That’s a league average pg size
In defense of the Sacramento Kings: one of the greatest General Managers in NFL history, Bill Polian, once said that if you like a guy, you pick him, and don't worry about the details. It's better to stay where you are and get the guy you want then to try to outsmart people, move down the board, put your fate in the hands of others, and lose out on a player you like. No offense to Tucker, but I agree with Polian's thinking.
@@JoseFranco9 if they traded down the pistons would’ve taken Murray, if not them the pacers, or the trailblazers definitely would’ve. Let’s not forget Ivey and Fox have similar games, so to keep Ivey you have to trade Fox away. That is nearly impossible with Fox’s current contract.
As a guy from perth seeing luke Travers getting picked made my day dont expect him to be anything good or even play but seeing his evolution and all the work he's put in to get drafted is amazing
Wasn’t the overwhelming consensus all of last year that Suggs was the 3rd or 4th best guy in the class? Toronto went with their guy instead and they look like geniuses for it. I know it’s Sacramento and all, but idk why they’re getting killed for this pick, it’s really not that big a dropoff between Ivey and Murray
It's because it's easy to pick on the kings and people aren't really thinking for themselves. Ivey has five or six areas he has to drastically improve to be on Ja's level where Keegan's floor looks like a solid starter, and I really think his ceiling is better than ppl are saying. The kings have been pretty bad with player development and a guy like Ivey would bust on the kings, I'm pretty confident. Keegan is also going to elevate Fox and sabonis' games on both sides of the court. It was a good mix of BPA and fit, or at least on paper. We never really know until we see them on the court, which is another reason it's dumb to anoint Ivey as the next D Wade when Wade was much less raw as a rookie
Shocked you didn’t talk about the rockets much, I felt like they absolutely dominated this draft with 3 players that not only covered the teams biggest needs but also were best players available
What kinda Rocket hater? The one that dismisses Harden as a stat padder yet praises the fck out of Giannis Jokic types or the one that just hates Houston in general being succesful dedpite passing on MJ?
Murray is not a bad fit on the Kings acutally, he fits well into what they want to do which is literally make the playin which they have a shot at. Also drafting Ivey was never going to happen because of what happened a few day ago. Ivey said he doesnt want to play on that team (smart move) and he has family in Detroit.
@@RuskiVodkaaaa I heard he didn’t and was like oh wow how bout that! Maybe would of atleast made the decision to I draft him or explore that trade lol, but very unprofessional
I mean the only solution is for us as fans to not know the information for another week. The problem is we are getting pieces of info immediately as the front offices decide upon it rather than when the trades are actually finalized.
This is another reason why they need to move the draft back and have free agency first. This way we can have trades confirmed on the spot with all details and it helps teams and the players getting drafted
Reading up on the backstory that pick looks like Ujiri knows what he's getting for a guy he's probably scouted way back. At minimum with his length and defensive acumen he makes it on the Raps main roster. Even better if he becomes a high impact role player in 2-3 years.
Rockets absolutely crushed that draft. Jabari Smith was the top pick for months. So obviously getting the top pick is a steal itself. Then they had two more great picks.
He was “the top pick” only on mock drafts, bc it was rumored that’s who the team picking at number 1 would take. Chet was number 1 on 90% of big boards bc those are the list o f just best player to worst. Chet has been the number 1 player in this draft for a majority of the last year on a majority of big boards lol
If other teams were in your position then I’d say you all won the draft too. But imo that definitely belongs to Detroit. Getting Ivey and Duren in order to compliment Bey, Cade, Bagley and a free agent target is a huge dub. Especially when this wasn’t supposed to happen. Making something happen out of nothing vs. making it happen while already having something is usually a comparison that favors the former. I will admit that Houston has been hitting on their draft picks though.
Ivey gotta get his cutter game down cuz Cade is gonna feed him. That said I think the Pistons need another playmaker to keep the ball moving for guys like Ivey/Duren/Bagley so they can let Cade go off ball at times.
@@t4d0W they got hayes for a 2nd guard off the bench he can’t really do anything besides playmaking and defense but he’s actually has really good court vision
Regardless how this night went, I'll bet this class will probably be one of the most stacked in a long time. I think even there'll be a few second round studs in there too but I may be overreacting about that who knows. 🤷♂️ Anyways, congrats to all those kids who's getting a chance to play in the big leagues!! See ya in the summer league!!
There’s nobody on Detroits roster who would work in a trade and fit on the kings, Keegan wouldn’t fall to #6 so it’s a really good pick by the kings I think
So happy with my hornets. Got the center I wanted while also still building assets for the future. Exactly what Mitch has been doing since we signed him!
He better be ready. Heat culture don't mess around when it comes to conditioning and preparation for the new season. If he impresses any of the underbosses that rep for godfather Riley, Jovic is going to fit in well.
Pistons all the way. Didn't care for this draft class but all of the trades and the fact that there seems to be clear winners and losers makes it interesting. As the draft carried on you could see the strategies unfold, I feel like most teams got what they wanted even if we didn't care for it. Except for the Kings, the always loser. One of these years they'll end up finding a star, just through the sheer volume of top 5 picks lol.
Not saying pistons are gonna be east finals contenders within the next 2 years but I think long-term they are gonna be really good. Case has superstar potential and in the east anything can happen
inb4 that one draft they chance on picking that legit guy, their owner Vivek gets in the way and tells the GM to pick X guy while butchering his name badly.
@@scruffd0g193 Yea I don't think they will be a deep playoff team with the current roster but they have positive things happening for once. They have direction. They have a GM who's making smart moves. That's all you can really ask for in this league.
As a Thunder fan I am happy with what OKC is doing with building a team around SGA and Giddey and this young core and the amount of assets that we have as well. And not to mention but it looks like all the picks the Knicks are getting are lottery protected picks so those can be seen as less valuable as trade assets.
I'm curious that Presti went all out for the first round this season. Not only for Chet but some of the intriguing talents in the middle of the first like Dieng and Jalen Williams. In the ideal lineup that he's building Chet can work out despite his clear limitations. Especially if Dieng and another long athletic wing can pan out as guys to help Chet on the perimeter.
I have to defend my kings. They picked a guy who was a clear top 5 pick its not like they took some nobody. Jaden ivey might be great and I was hoping they could trade down and still get Kegan but we can't assume that any team was willing to give us enough value back to make up for trading down. Teams throughout the years have always shorted us on every deal because we're the kings and maybe our Gm isn't as willing as others. I hope this turns out well for Sac.
I agree. Also, Ivey did not prefer to play for Sacramento. Why draft a player that doesn't want to play for the team? Even if the Kings drafted Ivey, people are going to say some stuff like "why draft another guard? Why don't they draft a player that fits the team?" shit like that. People were going crazy that Haliburton got traded to the Pacers like he was that second coming of Michael Jordan or something. These YT GMs always looking for something to hate on the Kings for any kind of reason. Honestly, Monte has been doing a solid job ever since he stepped into the Kings organization...unlike Divac who set the team back.
Murray is a great fit with Sabonis. He’s the safest pick in the top 5 for what he offers. Listening to him in the interview, I can see why any team would be interested.
I think they did want to trade down, but couldn't since Murray was going to end up in Detroit if they moved down. And Detroit obviously didn't want to make a trade to move just 1 spot and didn't wanna give any value since they knew they were either picking Ivey or Murray, who they both liked.
remember last draft when people where shocked toronto picked scottie barnes over suggs at number 4? maybe sac finally did something good. jaden ivey and fox seems too similar but i'd agree they should have dropped down to 5 or 6
I would agree with you if this was Toronto again or another organization that drafts well. It's the Kings though, they'll probably end up trading Murray in a couple years for 2 future second round picks
Toronto has arguably had the best player development in the league in recent memory while the kings…. Well they’re player development leaves a lot to be desired
Comparing the Raptors to the Kings is disgustingly insulting to the Raptors. They exist in different tiers of franchise competence, the Kings are an overgrown punchline
To be fair to the Kings, Detroit knows they want Murray and don’t want another guard. Why would they give up any value at all when the Kings won’t draft Ivey at 4? Any other trade down and you’re risking your #1 guy getting taken, and the Kings desperately need ceiling-raising talent.
If you paid attention to the reports it was known the Kings were higher on Murray than Ivey (had him for team dinners, etc.) and he’s probably the better win now pick which is what they want.
They had Luka for dinner too. Doesn’t matter a single bit. And it still DOES NOT MATTER. They could have still gotten Murray PLUS ANOTHER ASSET(S). Point blank period.
@@grapeape1965 you realize Murray was highly sought-after too right? Detroit or Indiana would’ve probably been the only teams they could’ve traded with and still gotten him
@@ItsYuhBoyyyy I literally said they could have still gotten murray. He’s not a guard. And lmao at not picking great players bc of De’Aaron proven loser Fox. He already should have been the one leaving last season if anyone had to. And if he’s in the way of a better talent then he can go now. Davion Mitchell sure as hell doesn’t stop you from drafting a much better player than he is. One thing that actual good teams that make the playoffs can never have enough of are ball handling players makers when the game slows down. Regardless tho I said they still pick Murray anyway in my comment
I dont think the King's pick was that bad tbh. 1-3 got a lot of attention since as you said they really could go in any order, but 4-6 was honestly pretty tight as well. Kings not trading down makes sense if you think that their scouts genuinely believed Murray to be better than Ivey and they were worried that other teams interested in trading up may be thinking the same thing. It's very similar to the Raptors drafting Barnes last year at 4 instead of trading down to ~7 where most people thought Barnes would naturally fall. Raptors FO was worried other teams were onto the pick and it was too risky trading down.
Detroit moved Grant the day before the draft to make Sacramento think they wanted Murray, and so the Kings being the Kings said "No way, not up in here!" and they drafted Murray and let Ivey fall into the Piston's lap. Frickin' genius!
That's a ridiculous risk when Grant is a really good player. The Pistons probably didn't care to badly if it was Keegan or Ivey. They heavily preferred Ivey, but were perfectly happy with Keegan. All the kings have to say is, you know what, we'll draft Ivey and just trade him to the highest bidder and that move fails specatularly if they don't want Keegan. Now the Pistons have to trade the damn house to get the guy they want. Vlade Divac isn't running the kings. Monte McNair isn't that stupid. Sacramento decided Keegan will be better than whoever they would have gotten for Ivey, which is probably true. Detroit, New Orleans, and the Pacers wouldn't have given up someone who pushes the needle to warrant trading Ivey, but Ivey has no place on the Kings, and Fox can't really be traded because Divac signed him to a max deal before Monte got their. Ivey's defense also kinda isn't good. He's a Kyrie Irving type guy who can will you to wins but doesn't make you a winning organization on his own. He's not Ja Morant.
The thing is sharpe could come in and be great or he could be a project, we don't know because we just haven't seen him play, so this tells me they believe he can be a good player now as well as a piece for their future
OKC, Pistons and rockets are all playing the long-term game. Down the road, 2024, 25, 26 they are gonna be good. Building up really good young talent. Pistons with Cade and Ivey, OKC with Shai, Josh and Che, and Houston with Green and Jabari.
This is the same reason the Kings drafted Bagley over Luka. They were saying Bagley fit the team better and was more of what they needed. We saw how that worked out for the Kings. They just did the same exact thing in this draft again.
To be fair, OKC's 3 first rounders will probably be one in the 20's whilst the other two are heavily protected and I'd see them both turning into second rounders.
It all really comes down to what we do in free agency and what potential trades we do aswell. It's not doom and gloom but it's not exactly exciting right now
I remember last year there was a consensus 4th best player last year. Maybe, just maybe Sacramento sees something in this guy. But then again, it’s Sacramento.
I think your Kings take is your worst take ever. You made it seem like Murray is an awful player and didn't even mention what he could be. You then think the kings could trade out just like that. If they thought the best player left was Murray and believe he can be a star. That means they needed to trade with Detroit. If they didn't want to trade you wanted them to go to 12 to pick up a bench warmer for maybe a few second-round picks? That makes no sense.
The best player Sacramento has drafted in a decade, and of course traded away like the idiots they are, was at pick 12 genius. The fact you think your team can only get a bench warmer who is out of the league at pick 12 is a further indictment on what a POS team they are 😂
Mavs fan here, resign Brunson was one of the priorities of this offseason, but if the knicks want to throw the max at him then so be it. We love Jalen but he is not a max player
I feel like Dimwiddie made Brunson a little expendable. Especially if you can sign and trade Brunson and get some help in return, like Mitchell Robinson or Toppin
I don’t know why people were surprised about the Murray thing, Ivey obviously didn’t want to go to Sacramento and they don’t need another guard so it made sense to get Murray and the banchero one too I saw coming, this draft didn’t surprise me until the trades came along
Tucker there has been signs for weeks that Ivey has said he did not want to go to the kings. It was not a shock he wasn’t picked at 4 with the kings picking
The Kings should draft Ivory and negotiate with Pistons to get more picks or keep him because Fox needs help with the backcourt. I was surprised the knicks got more future draft picks, but knowing the Knicks they going to screw up unless they get Kyrie in free agency. Yet, I doubt he’s not going there because he wants to join forces with Lebron at Lakers.
To be fair to the Kings (even though their track record suggests they don't deserve it) maybe Keegan Murray was their guy and they weren't able to find a trade partner that would still insure that they get their guy. The Pistons probably wouldn't trade with them because they knew that they wouldn't take Ivey.
Have a buddy with league contacts in Portland who said a week before the draft that if Shaedon was at 7 there was no question they would take him. Apparently one of the highest basketball IQ players in the draft. Plus a 49 inch vert helps XD
I really don’t know what the Knicks are doing, are we soft rebuilding for more young players or trading to try to win now or compete? Wouldn’t we trade Randle and a few picks and try to get Ivey? I really don’t get it
You don't get it? Dawg your head coach is Tom Thibodeau. He don't play rookies and even 2nd year guys gotta struggle getting minutes unless they are out of the playoffs where Quickley was getting over 30 minutes in April tha he did in November/December. This is a veteran constructed team.
Dude Ivey didn’t even want to go to sac. He was literally in sac for other reasons and didn’t even stop by. Not to mention Murray had lunch with fox. Murray is an all around talent that can fit so well next to fox and sabonis. Fox and Ivey would have NOT worked
ok the clarification makes the situation with my Knicks a little bit better but it’s still super scary ngl. for example what happens if Nets and Kyrie get the deal done or the Nets trade him somewhere? Sure the Knicks cleared all of that cap space but they come out of this with no prospect, 2 picks next year that are lottery protected and from lottery teams (meaning they probably won’t get those actual picks), a 2025 bucks pick (acquired by Detroit in Jerami Grant trade), and down 4 second round picks. I would have rather they just taken Ousmane Dieng or Malaki Branham and clear up cap space after the draft. Like you said, people would take players like Evan Fournier’s contracts for a first round pick, so why did you have to forfeit a prospect just for the cap space when you could have made it in other ways? I just don’t get it.
If they cleared all that cap space to get not one AGAIN, then I’m going to laugh. Nothing against you Knicks fans, but all I here is how everyone and their mom is going to the Knicks just because it’s the Knicks.
@@sosmooth13 I like Jalen Brunson but why couldn’t I have Jalen Brunson AND an AJ Griffin or Ousmane Dieng? like what’s the point in trading away the pick if you arguably could have made the space elsewhere. I think they were just gonna Johnny Davis but when Wizards took him at 10 they panicked and just went “ok let’s just get capital and cap space.” Would have perfected AJ smh 😭
As a Celtics fan I'm happy with JD Davidson at 53, 6'3 defensive minded guard, just fits the culture of the team perfectly, you can't ask for more with the 7th to last pick
When I watched the lottery and saw detroit fell to 5th I thought Fs we had Keegan. When I saw the kings take Keegan I was in complete disbelief. Back to back years getting the best guard in the draft detroit basketball is back!!
One thing you noticed in draft was prioritize length and wings not guards. So what does that tell you why they didn’t get Ivey. If you learn anything from dame/cj you don’t keep drafting guards
Well I don't understand, why it's a surprise to you that Murray went to SAC at 4. I mean I understand your reasoning, but to my understanding is that Ivy did not want to be selected by SAC. He did not even show his medicals. Besides, SAC already have a guard in D'arron Fox.
As much as I clown on the Kings (as they always give me ammo since the Ben MacLemore and Jimmer Fredette picks way back when) they def don't want another small speedster who may need the ball along Fox and the real playmaker of the team, Domas. They need length and versatility to play like a top 10 defensive team to sniff the playoffs. Wolves played like last season and even if they slid down to have to be in the play-in, they did their job and kept out the Clippers.
@@dc9847 I didn't know about the Steph Curry thing. Yes to my understanding Charles Barkley initially did not want to go to the 76'ers. Listen Ivey did not want Sac and vice-versa let which them the best of luck.
Paolo is bettter for us. Needed a guy who could create his own shot at a forward position. Our core is crazy good now we just need to figure out the 2 and we’re straight
I bet on the entire top 5 and when the magic picked Banchero I thought that was gonna completely fuck my bets but OKC decided to pick chet instead of jabari so I got 3 out of 5
Thunder fan here, the 3 1sts we gave up are tied up in a bunch of protections part of me thinks the WAS pick may never convey because the Wizards are always in the lottery and might lose Beal. DEN probably conveys in the mid to late 20’s next year and the DET probably conveys in the late teens in 2024.
Exactly. OKC dumped a few of their worst 1st Round Picks to take a chance on a project with a high potential skill ceiling and also so they could also draft the player at the combine that everyone was highest on. This was Sam Presti finally pressing the fire button on his fully loaded canon and the Thunder are taking their bet that at least one of these super high potential players maxes out on their ability and becomes a star compliment to SGA and Giddey. The Detroit pick is the only one that could potentially have comparable value to the 11th and only if Detroit completely botches its rebuild (which it shouldn't with Cunningham, Ivey, and Duren). Most likely the Thunder traded a 15-20 pick, a 24+ pick, and 2 Future 2nd Rounders for Dieng, a price that is definitely worth it for a Thunder team that still has double digit first round picks in the next 5 years.
How funny before the draft all the experts were saying Murray is the most NBA ready prospect of the whole draft, now the notorious Sacramento Kings picked him and everyone's ready to treat him like a bust.
Monte McNair has actually done a good job drafting for Sacramento. He's selected Tyrese Haliburton and Davion Mitchell. The bad Kings picks have been made by Vlade Divac and Vivek Ranidive.
I’ve got news for ya. Vivek Ranadive still has executive power and DOES have a say on what the Kings do. Don’t be fooled, Ranadive has had his fingerprints on every Kings failure up to the current failure of trading Haliburton. This is not Monte McNairs team. Everything goes through Ranadive.
Wait for the FA to see if those guys move. Maybe some multi-team deals happen to facilitate guys like Gobert or some S&T guys looking to get shuffled out.
