Sub 200 mile range in a 2023 electric midsize SUV is flat out unacceptable. They should’ve waited to debut this until they could find a way to get at least 250 miles out of it.
@@rebellucy6200 Sometimes it's less than that lol. Chinese and some Indian startup manufacturers are already getting more than double the range of this out of their electric cars, while we're capped at 300 for some reason.
My wife owns a UX250h and it's tiny. Perfect as her commuter and for us not having kids, but Lexus barely sells any in the US. Something like 17,000 units. It's far too small for the average American family. It's a brilliant car, tho. I absolutely love it.
doug talked a lot about the trio of price/range/power but i feel like honestly it's probably just the range holding this car back. if the interior is nice enough and "premium" feeling enough you can justify the 60k price tag, and 0-60 in the mid 5 second range is more than fast enough for 99% of people who would want to buy a lexus crossover. if they could just boost the range by 100 miles or so i think this car would go from kind of a joke to totally viable.
Yeah, I think for majority of the buyers for these crossovers, 5 seconds is completely fine. Considering the NX and RX are Lexus's best selling models, and those are both slower to 60 than this EV. The big let down is the range. I might be biased but here, there are still plenty of people buying the bz4X simply because in Vancouver, driving distances are quite short and people like the Toyota/Lexus brand simply for their reputation (whether still true or not) of being reliable and easy to operate. Consistency is more important to these shoppers than driving excitement.
@@naveenthemachine yeah, don't get me wrong, this product is very meh compared to the competition. Doug touched on it too, I think there's a subset of Toyota/Lexus shoppers that just don't cross shop. They literally get their camry, drive it until they want a new one, and they go back and get another camry, probably without even test driving it. It's like no-brainer default for them. But as Doug said, EVs are just starting to get mass market appeal, and to many, EVs are still "early adopter" cars so those buyers tend to look at other cars to cross-shop which is where Toyota is running into issues. They can't just phone it in now because EV drivers are looking more into the details and competition. There's just so few models compared to ICE cars.
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Thank you for the honest Doug interview. I was so looking forward to this car last year. I love Lexus, having owned a LS430 and owning a 200,000 mile SC400. But when I saw what the BZ4X offered, I opted for a Ford Mach-e. This video reinforced my good decision. One year and 19,000 miles later, I'm still very happy. I'll still enjoy my SC400 on the weekends.
Still have my 04' LS430 with the bigger 18' Five spoke rims, 170,000 miles on it. Hard to give up the LS for me since I've driven LS for 15+ years, including the LS400. Very reliable in general. Although I do drive the Toyota BZ4x (company car) for work, and it is quite comfortable, quiet, and simple to drive. I do see Lexus RZ's around when I charge the BZ4x at work too, I've always thought the RZ looked ok. Maybe a hybrid/ electric car as a daily in the future.
Just realizing why Lexus never should have made the black fender flares GLOSS black.... When the video cuts to Doug standing next to the vehicle it looked like GIANT gaping Fender holes with teeny tiny roller skate wheels inside. 😳 The next sequence of competitors with MATTE fender flares were fine, and then it cut back to the black holes on the sides of the RZ and I couldn't stop staring at them. 🤣
Holy God that gauge cluster looks straight out of 2013. How are they selling this thing for a premium 10 years later. They dun brought over the land cruiser crew to do their EVs. They missed that this segment ain't looking for it ain't broke, they're looking for it don't look broke.
Considering optimistic range estimates of some manufacturers, it would be interesting to see a real world highway range test to complete depletion of battery against all competition. Wonder how big of a range advantage other manufacturers actually have .
This ia about the size of the RX350, which means it's not small. Also, while it's the first Lexus EV in North America, there's the UX300e that has been on sale in Europe for a few years.
It makes sense that they would release an electric version of the UX in euroupe. The UX is their compact SUV crossover, so it would work well in euroupe with the smaller roads & such.
You have to decide what is important to you. If you are looking for a practical car, then there are better choices. If you are looking for the best ride to and from work then I think this is a good choice. If taking long trips is in your plans, this car isn't for you. I bought the Luxury model and I love it. I wanted an SUV so that limits the choices. The assisted driving is different, but once you realize what it is and what it isn't it will completely change how you drive. It basically takes over having to worry about speed and staying in your lane. Those concerns are a thing of the past. When I look at the car in the videos, it does look odd. It looks completely different in person. I like how it looks. If you are looking for luxury this is a good choice. If you are looking for practical look at other options. I am 100% happy with my purchase.
I don't understand the black wheel arches. Let's put big rims on the car but then but black wheel arches on it so it looks like the tires don't fill the wheel well.
In other markets Lexus introduced their fully electric UX 300e years ago, but there is a normal full hybrid on that same platform. So I guess the RZ is their first electric without a gas version being also available.
What category is the range accounted for in the Doug Score? For electrics, I'd be curious to see range, charge time, etc. represented in the score if possible?
Should be reflected in practically...this Lexus should be a 7 not an 8, but Doug is Doug...he really doesn't care what anyone else thinks, and that's why we love him.
Doug said the Tesla Model Y starts at $55,000. What? "*Price before incentives and savings is $47,740. excluding taxes and fees. Subject to change." That's without the tax rebate.
Except the taycan is incredibly expensive and sort of mediocre imo compared to a lucid air or a model S. Though a taycan refresh is due soon so I'm eager to see what they're cooking
This will fail guaranteed. Wheel arches are horrendous, piss poor range which is priority #1 for swaying people into an EV, and i can already see Starbucks slurping Michelle rolling the mf when she jerks the yoke to shoot a gap
You forgot to mention that dealer markups add another $50k to the price. Since Tesla is the only automaker that sells directly to consumers (e.g. no dealer markups), they’re the only EV that makes any sense. Let the dealers go out of business.
Dealer markups are correlated to demand. Dealers aren't gonna mark up every car they see. Only the ones in high demand. Mediocre stuff like this that won't attract a lot of buyers will be immune to markups or may even get marked down just to get em off the lot (though they'll try to screw you out of your money some other way). And Tesla also isn't known to have stable car prices. They frequently adjust prices whether that be increasing them or decreasing them due to stuff like demand, interest and competitor positioning. Treat Tesla vehicles prices like stock. Their prices are frequently adjusted though they won't try to swindle you out of your money and there is no middle man meaning a superior system imo.
at $65k this isn't really competing with the Volvo XC40, especially with that abysmal range. I've loved every Lexus I've owned (three) but this is a huge miss in my book.
It is not a miss, the car has a small battery pack and given that....a good range. For me 200mls a day would be more than sufficient. The charging is oke to because Lexus doesn't want you the speed charge everytime, that's why they have a warranty of 15 years on the batteries, an industry first..... .
@@avdp9095 200 miles is ideal range. Crank up your AC, bomb around the highway at 80 miles and you'll likely be down to 140-120mls. In winter likely even less.
@@avdp9095 It doesn't have a small battery pack though, it's just inefficient. The battery on it is 71.5kwh, the battery on the base Model Y is 67.5kWh while getting almost 100 more miles of range.... And it's over 20 grand cheaper.
Gonna be interesting how this one will do here in Germany where Lexus always had a hard time selling their Cars. but they even heavily market the RZ here, something Lexus never does. But since this is an EV and i noticed many Germans try out different Brands when it comes to EVs than the Brand they trust in for ICE Cars, it will be interesting to see them pop up here Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
@@williamdrijver4141 Possible, but definitely also because Lexus Sales are abyssmal in Germany and they saw that German Consumers are open to buy a different Brand than they used to when it comes to EVs
You can tell that Toyota and Lexus are not 100% in on the EV bandwagon, and I have significant respect for their approach to electrification. I firmly believe that EVs won't become the norm by the deadlines they're claiming to meet, especially in the US. The infrastructure just isn't quite there yet as it always tends to fail for a lot of people. Unless you have a house, owning an EV is pretty difficult. Simply finding a fast charger or a regular charger can be a challenge in of itself and that's even if they work properly. The waiting times are also not ideal, but that's not surprising. Also, let's not forget that the prices right now for most EVs are ridiculous regardless of inflation. Not to mention, a lot of people aren't buying EVs and are left sitting in lots from what I've seen and heard on Kirk Kreifel's channel. It all has to do with the prices. Because of this, you're now seeing that hybrid and PHEV sales are increasing. Lo and behold, these hybrid and PHEV sales mostly consist of Toyotas and Lexuses. In my mind, hybrids and PHEVs are the best of both worlds. As of right now, they're the most logical purchase over EVs in my opinion, and Toyota/Lexus are thriving in this segment from what I'm seeing. I believe that EVs do serve a purpose in the world, but not in the way people think they would. EVs should really be commuter cars and commuter cars only for the foreseeable future. This isn't me trying to bash EVs, I'm simply stating what I currently believe to be the possible future of EVs in the next couple of years.
On top of that, the former head of Toyota was actively blocking EV development. These models are rush jobs to get something out the door once his influence stopped preventing a pure EV. I'm a Toyota man, and am not likely to buy anything else as a daily driver, but I'd be really leery of buying one these. They're clearly rushed and chances are not everything else will be properly thought through either. I think EVs will become the norm quicker than a lot of us expect, but not as quick as current trends seem to suggest. I'm in one of those situations where I don't have a place to charge at home (apartment) or at work (small commercial park). It's a significant amount of time and distance for me to get to a charger that's not a trickle charger, and even then there's a good chance the fast charger might not work when I get there. There will also be situations for a very long time in remote areas where the infrastructure for charging doesn't exist at all, and would cost a fortune to get installed. That is a set of people who will need traditional vehicles for a significantly longer time than most.
EVs are the future of personal transport, whenever you like it or not. Infrastructure will follow (as it always did with rising demand of electricity) and so will chargers. Tesla has there beat everyone. Now about their slow and "sure" approach to EVs; this is going to cost them big time in the future. Toyota, being as big as they are, just isn't taking EVs seriously enough and investing enough money to catch up to competitiors. They are sleeping behind the wheel and that will bite them in the ass. Because to have a good mass market EV, it isn't just about styling and materials, it's also about motor, inverter and most importantly; battery tech. If they don't get these 3 right, they might as well kiss their EV marketshare goodbye. And world will be buying ICE based Toyota for only so long.
@@hojnikb I totally understand. I was mainly referring to the current state of how EVs are doing and how they could potentially turn out within the next 2 to 5 years. I personally believe that these deadlines that have been proposed are possibly not going to be met. I'm not saying that improvements aren't in the works. I'm simply pointing out that they may not come as soon as people were hoping. Toyota/Lexus can very easily catch up I think when it comes to electrification. They just don't want to immediately hop in on the hottest trend quite yet.
PHEVs are the worst of both worlds. You get a shitty ICE and a shitty EV. Each has to haul the other one whenever it’s in use. Whole car is far more complicated as a result and I’m sure dealerships love it. More things that can break.
Interested to know the drag coefficient on it as that frontend must cause immense drag with it being so flat. That won’t be helping the highway range. Also, Doug can you please talk about charging speeds for EV’s pls. It’s important when talking about road trips as range is only part of the story if it charges fast.
how am I supposed to know this is a Doug video if Doug's not standing next to the car in the thumbnail? I miss the old days when Doug would stand next to cars in the thumbnails :(
Great range...for a 15 minute city, if you're one of the lucky few able to find and afford one in our modern economy. That's our future. Welcome to the machine.
You'll own nothing and be happy. Remember when California asked EV owners not to plug in because there wasn't enough electricity to go around? Wait until that asking isn't optional. If your car refuses to charge or the charger refuses to charge your car, you're not going anywhere except on your feet or the bus.
I can’t imagine someone being “lucky” to own one of these. More like an uninformed fanboy. I hate Tesla but would take one of those a million times over this. I can’t imagine a worse vehicle for the price.
When reviewing EVs, charging speed is an important factor that Doug seems to skip entirely. The Toyota bz4x set a new low record for charging speed in Kyle Connor's review (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y9A73U-kAO0.html). It would be nice to know if the Lexus version was any different. All through the video I kept saying "But how fast does it charge!?"
In Lexus/Toyota's defense (not that I'm a fan of any of Toyota's EVs) charging speed is only relevant on long road trips. If you're charging at home overnight on level 2, it's irrelevant. Otherwise it's a half assed attempt at an EV that only people who aren't interested or cross shopping this with any other brand would buy
In all fairness the Toyota has had several updates to address some of the early complaints. It can now fast charge 3.8 times in a single day. it now shows battery percentage in the dash and it also improved range by approximately 20 miles and it also improved it's fast charging speeds.
Lexus's first EV model is the Ux300e, also how is this a "small" crossover! 😂 I took a peek inside one day and thought it was huge. Guess I'm used to smaller cars.
@@Carlishoit's not small for "Americans" it's small for North American roads. Drivers here drive tend to drive longer and further than in Europe. Where as Europeans will use trains for long journeys. So historically carrying stuff for a 30 hour cross country trip required more space. So North American auto makers made larger cars and still do.
@@Rome1017Lights 99% North Americans dont use half the space the have in their SUVs and trucks, they just get the biggest vehicle because they dont know any better
@@Carlisho If you live there I'm going to assume you're new to the US. You ever been to rural areas? Where 99% of the people that live there use the size of their vehicles? I don't know about you, but where I live (not rural in any way), people live for the outdoors and use larger vehicles for camping, hunting, fishing and general outdoor activities regularly. I was simply giving a lesson on why cars in North America have always been larger... Bigger country and roads instead of train tracks.
@@Rome1017Lights so how many people go on 30 h journeys? 5 a year maybe? Also what's the point of all 7 seater giant SUVs if almost everyone has 1-2 kids?
I have no issues with the "subpar" 5.5 second 0-60 time, but big problem with its insipid range -- for the price, there's no excuse. Also, was expecting the Lexus version to at least do away with those absolutely horrid black wheel arch tack-on claddings, but evidently not.
On its own, an 'OK' car. By comparison to the competition, mediocre at best, and downright outdated at inception before it left the factory floor. Toyota is THE most indebted car maker on the planet, and this lack lustre effort displays its contempt for the self evident transformation of the very industry it once was the master of. Toyota are very much in the top-ten most likely car businesses likely to go bust in the next very few years, and this car is evidence to that assertion.
And yet people will blindly buy these inferior options because of brand allegiance to Toyota of all companies. People just don't think too good sometimes man. They just don't.
@@BeefIngot I know right, GM may be my least favourite brand of cars, but Toyota/Subaru/Lexus owners are my least favourite car owners, they always think that Toyota is the most reliable and the best value even though they use cheap ass materials, have god awful technology, and charge more than a Ford Escape or Nissan Rogue which are way nicer cars and way better values, my neighbour pays $900 a month for her RAV4 and my other neighbor pays $450 a month for her Ariya
The 1.9 was especially prone to rear end in a ditch. In France, I must have seen 40-60 with completely damaged rear end. The French, being French, didn't repair them when they were still repairable. The 1.6 was less tricky.
Add on the facts that the charging is relatively very slow AND that it's limited to 2 sessions per day, and duty as a road-tripper is pretty much out the window.
I truly don't understand why you'd add the cost and complexity of electronic doors while still keeping the old physical handle. Isn't getting rid of that the entire point of using those?
No it isn't ok. It's crap. Toyota management apparently hates electric cars, every attempt at doing anything electric out of them has been absolute garbage. They've still got the fantasy that hydrogen is anything but an idiotic sideshow.
Honestly, in an alternate world where this is the only electric car that exists, this is great. But in a world like this where Tesla model y, Mach e, kia EV6/ioniq 5 exists. I'd get a Tesla model y easily over this
People in my tiny country (Israel) are all over this car. The range is not much of an issue when 200 miles covers around half of your territory 😅. As a Lexus it’s rather nice luxury car so it’s an interesting proposition
This car is a result of Toyota's lack of investment into the EV landscape, hence the disappointing range. They've been playing it safe by not going all in on EV's, and now they're paying for it. Even their president was ousted because of these mistakes. With that said, they seem to have learned their lesson, as I keep hearing them talk about innovations in solid state battery technology. Right now though, they're simply not a competitor in this market.
They have been talking about solid state batteries for better part of a decage and nothing to show for. They slep behind the wheel for too long and it's going to be hard to catch up now. I'd wager toyota might team up with the big chinese players for them to share their platforms and batteries for future Toyota EVs.
No one’s talking about how Doug never even said “now I’m gonna drive it” just casually went into it. I couldn’t even tell he was driving the background noise was so quiet.
I may be the only one but I'm not a huge fan of the new thumbnails, I think they're just too similar to the Cars&Bids thumbnails (which may be the point idk) and doesn't look as distinctive as the traditional, maybe there could be a combination of both with the name of the vehicle at the bottom of the screen so we can have both designs in one
One of the biggest downsides is that there is no one pedal driving which is insane. It’s not unheard of for EV brakes to last up to 80k+ miles, but not w/ the RZ smh
I agree one pedal driving is a must, but don’t equate one pedal driving with regenerative braking. I think it’s safe to assume light to moderate brake pedal force will rely solely on regenerative braking, blending in friction brakes when necessary.
hold on now. I think people have this big misconception that regenerative braking only happens with one pedal, but that would be a terrible idea, especially because many folks (like me) hate one pedal driving. Instead, most modern EVs just blend in regenerative braking with regular braking, so when you brake normally, it uses regenerative 100% until you reach really low speeds (where regen doesn't work) and then turn on the regular brakes, or they mix in both if you are braking really hard the whole time.
@@BeefIngot I’m clearly aware of the difference. Regen braking isn’t new and has been around since the first hybrids. One Pedal just relies solely on the motor working backwards to slow down the car, so you’re getting maximum regen + not wearing out your brakes. When you press on the brake pedal, you are manually starting the friction brakes and electric motor regen braking, which means a loss in efficiency recuperating energy and now the brakes are getting worn the same as an ICE car. Changing brakes every 80K+ miles would outweigh any negative feelings over not liking one pedal driving for me at least. But w/ the RX, BZ4x, and Solterra you’re robbed of that benefit
@@thisistimmy You said you were aware then went on to state the exact same misconceptions I literally just covered. Unless you are hard braking the effect of normal braking vs one pedal driving is the exact same.
This video was posted today. I don’t know when he actually filmed this video, but he said the Y starts at 65k. For the last few months, the Y starts at 47k up to performance model 55k.
Lexuss "yoke" is the best thing ever. I'm absolutely sure it is the future of cars. It moves only half turn each way, you never need to remove or change hands (unlike Tesla, whete it is just a different shape of "wheel"). It takes moment to adapt, but after a while you just absolutely love it and regular steering wheel seems ancient and silly.
2 things: In cold weather, EV's typically lose 30% of range. AKA: Your new Lexus EV will have a range of 130 miles...unless it's REALY cold, then it will be even less. Toyota is the only automaker investing heavily in Hydrogen. I get the impression they aren't big on electric as the future of transport.
None of its competition is as classy or built with such high quality. That’s what makes it appealing to its customer base. Not everyone is running drag races or driving between the opposite state borders everyday. Some people want a quality product that looks and feels premium.
I think Doug's emphasis on acceleration is impractical. But the car has been tested about 5 seconds or below so I'm not sure where he's getting the 5.5 seconds acceleration time from. Still, this car has plenty of power. In a Lexus, I'm looking for smoothness and Doug didn't really talk about the Lexus-like driving characteristics, just about how he thinks it doesn't have certain metrics. That's not how what some people prioritize. They want feel and not metrics.
I own an RZ. There are a few misconceptions and downright inaccuracies in Doug's review (and many of the comments). First is the performance; it is rated at 5.0 seconds 0-60, not 5.5, and most reviewers who actually TESTED it get a little quicker, more like 4.8 or 4.9 seconds. So it is actually on a par with the standard Tesla Model Y. Is it super fast, like in the 3's? Nope. But it is on a par with most of the competition, and Doug never actually stepped on it in his driving review. The "Premium" (base model) has the fake leather ("NuLuxe") while the "Luxury" model has the fake suede ("UltraSuede") seating surfaces. So he's dead wrong in saying the whole thing is Alcantara because neither is, technically, and the two trims have different materials. The yoke is not yet available and from what I've heard, won't be until next year. Steering with the yoke is progressive, but also variable, based on things like speed. it is also "Steer by Wire" rather than a mechanical linkage. It also doesn't require ever removing your hands from it because it doesn't go all the way around; it is roughly 150 degrees lock to lock. Doug mentioned it being a "small crossover" or "compact crossover" but it is anything but small. It LOOKS smaller from the outside than it really is, being only roughly 3" shorter than a midsized RX, and actually, a longer wheelbase. I actually measured and the cargo DIMENSIONS are virtually identical to the RX, though shorter (height) because of the steeply sloped roofline which yields a lower cargo VOLUME. Yes, the Tesla Model Y has a larger cargo area volume, but it is also shaped a little narrower and longer, so in many cases, a little less practical, and cargo VOLUME is often misleading because few people really need or can even use the HEIGHT. Cargo AREA (not volume) is often more important, and I got the RZ because all of my tools and crap would fit in it (which they do NOT in an NX). Yes, the range is terrible compared with, say, a Tesla. However, Lexus took a very different approach than Tesla. Every BMS limits charging and use to avoid charging to the REAL battery capacity and discharging to the real zero. Doing so can harm the battery permanently. So they always reserve a small percentage at both the top and bottom of the ranges. Tesla has decided to use more of the actual battery capacity; if I remember correctly, around 96% of the actual capacity. Lexus, on the other hand, opted to be more conservative and use far less of the actual battery capacity - I believe 89%. What that means is that you get less of the battery's ACTUAL capacity to use, but what that ALSO means is that the battery will fare far better over time and you'll lose far less capacity. Lexus designed their batteries and BMS to retain 90% of their capacity after 10 years of normal use, whereas Tesla designed for 70% after 7 years. Which means that you'll lose less capacity over time, and while a Tesla's range will decrease fairly rapidly, the Lexus' range will reduce far less. I've heard lots of people talk about how you shouldn't ever charge a Tesla past about 80%, yet the Lexus RZ can easily be charged to 100% using Level 1 or Level 2 charging (they don't recommend it with DC Fast Charging, though obviously, it is capable) without causing ANY long-term damage to the battery. So if I'm able to do 100%-20% that's 80% of my range, versus a Tesla doing only 80%-20% which is 60% of the range, which makes the USABLE range numbers closer. Remember also that you're generally discharging while parked in pretty much any EV, and I've heard some friends with them talking about losing a fair amount. I lose nothing measurable, so I'm not really losing range just sitting. There's also the lie about range; that's always ideal figures, and depends on a lot of factors, including whether you're using the climate control. So the question isn't just EPA ratings but REAL WORLD ratings driving the vehicle in real world conditions, like having the climate control on and the sound system going. I know there has been a LOT of talk in the media lately about Tesla lying about their range numbers and people getting a LOT less in the real world than Tesla has been advertising as their "EPA rating." My range is, obviously, degraded when using the climate control and the radio blasting, but it isn't as much of a loss as one might think. For someone doing long road trips regularly, the RZ is probably not the vehicle for them. But most people go shorter distances on a daily basis, commuting to and from work, and with a Level 2 charger at home, range is never a problem. Note also that Lexus is offering a free 30-day (over 3 years) loaner program, where you can rent any available gas (or hybrid... depends what available at the particular dealership) vehicle for up to 30 individual days within the first three years. So if you ARE going on a long road trip for a week, you can rent a gas vehicle for that week for free (and then have 23 more days of free rentals to use in any combination). Doug mentioned and joked about the little straps in the back; those are obviously not for pens, but allow you to pick up those two side pieces to get at what's underneath, which includes the Lexus first-aid kit. He also didn't lift the floor of the cargo area, which exposes a pretty large area below which can be used as storage. I, for example, have several things in there including my included Level 1 charging cable and a pretty large box of tools, with room to spare. He didn't mention one of the stupidities which is that the RZ doesn't have a glovebox. Yeah, surprising, but it doesn't because it has electric radiant heaters under both the passenger and driver's side dash. They come on with the heater, and provide very quick, and supposedly very power efficient heating to the lap and legs of front seat occupants. He didn't mention wireless (Qi) smartphone charging, which it has, nor did he mentioned wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, neither of which the Tesla has that the RZ does. You can use Google Maps or Waze or whatever you want from your phone for navigation, right on that big, beautiful 14" screen. You can send and receive texts wireless, make calls wireless, play music from your phone wireless, etc. Speaking of playing music, the "Luxury" trim comes standard with the Mark Levinson sound system which is absolutely amazing. Most people can't hear the difference between it and the "standard" (dubbed as premium) system on the base Premium trim - which most people consider absolutely fantastic - but as a musician my whole life and former studio engineer, I certainly can. It isn't just loud and boomy, which are the criteria most people (especially the younger crowd) use to determine the "quality" of a sound system, but it is accurate and clear. The other day, I had a friend of a friend get into my RZ after he had just bought a C40 Recharge, and he was very impressed by pretty much everything, including the quality of the interior, the features, etc. The biggest thing is that it is a LEXUS, which means that it is built well, with great materials. I've read SO many complaints from people about their Teslas needing repair, whether under warranty or not, and things falling apart. Paint looking terrible after a short time, and even flaws from the factory. I've seen so many complaints about the interior looking like crap after only a few short years. The RZ is built properly, and I don't expect to ever have problems with it.
I love that Lexus, obviously knowing that electric vehicles don’t need a traditional grill, decided to sorta invert the design where the grill would be. They kept the signature Lexus grill shape as a panel, and maybe not everyone will really care that much about it but I think that’s just clever design. If only they applied the same amount of creativity and brain power when designing the wheels lol.
Lexus has a program that will allow RZ owners to leave their car at the dealership if they are planning a longer road trip and give them a traditional I.C.E Lexus as a loaner for up to 10 days at a time, multiple times per year. Definitely reduces the "range anxiety" complaint, all while keeping miles off your personal car.
How is it possible the heads at Toyota knew their vehicle was so absolutely terrible that they had to create a program for trading it in to drive it? Holy cajoles if true they quite literally knew how terrible their EV is they have to offer an alternative to owners.
@@alphaomega9650 don't buy an all electric car if you plan on traveling far distances exclusively. Maybe buy a plug-in hybrid? That's like saying imagine needing a second car to tow a boat. Purchase something that makes sense for your lifestyle 😆
I suspect that Lexus's claim of 196 miles of range is an actual true range under real world driving. Every other auto maker gives their range based on the most favorable conditions possible. No one I know that owns a Tesla says they get the quoted range on it. Model Y gets 330 miles? No way. Maybe if the outside temperature is a constant 65 degrees, there is no wind, no slope the road, you're driving in a straight line, with zero traffic, and never stopping. That's A LOT that has to go right to get that range. Model Y range is realistically about 75-100 less than what Tesla says. It's the same thing for BMW's i4. They claim 280 miles of range. I actually got to drive one these for a few days as a loaner. I drove the car like I would any other ICE car. I got 180 miles of range on a charge, 100 miles less than BMW claimed. Lexus 196 miles of range all of a sudden doesn't seem so bad. The crux of every EV has been the range. Battery technology just hasn't gotten to where it needs to be in the last decade. EV are great if you live in an urban setting and don't take many road trips. But if you're in the suburbs, commute daily, or take even a few road trips a year then EV just isn't there yet. Range has too either get over the 500 mile mark with real work driving or the charging needs to get much quicker to be around the 5-8 minute mark for 80% charge. I don't think EVs get there even before 2040.
I work for lexus and I hate the way they marketed this. This cars full charge is actually 260 but they underquote on purpose unlike other manufacturers
Does anyone else see the door hinge through the panel gap on the front driver door when Doug is doing the wrap up description toward the end or am I imagining that?
To paraphrase the mantra of great real estate: Range, range, range If you're not in an area with a good supercharging network, it's important to have as much range as possible.
It really just needs mile range, boost it up between 250-300 mile range and this car becomes competitive and probably the best choice if you don't care about performance.
How would this be the best choice? the packaging is horrifically bad (like they just took a gas car and converted it), and the gauge cluster looks straight out of 2013.
@@michelerangel6800 Except the vehicle this is based on has a horrible track record for reliability so the only reason to buy it for that is fanboyism and it looks ugly as hell while having terrible range and packaging.
@@BeefIngot So u think that this car with 250-300 mile range won’t be competitive or the best option for sum people in the segment? That was the point of my comment in the first place. Lexus (Toyota) its known for been a brand thats an step behind in tech , we all know that. I couldn’t care less if YOU find it attractive or not or if u buy it or not because i wont buy it neither, everyone likes different stuff buddy
@@michelerangel6800 Bro, how are you just going to skip half the comment to pretend like I didn't adress key points. Currently this brand isn't actually reliable in the Ev space, they do bad packaging and have poor tech. Why would anyone buy this over a competitor. You still aren't listing reasons other than (misplaced) brand loyalty.
I feel like you touched on why the auto manufacturers are lying by ommisoon. The more usable the trunk, the more people will use it. Obviously if they half ass the trunk, no one will use it.
