The 2S38 FINALLY Gets Balanced?! - War Thunder 

The noise of this thing firing brings me PTSD

This is the only vehicle that I truly hate in WT.

nah, defenetly buff, being able to fire all your rounds without having to reload in 0.5 intervals is insane

I think the 2S38 couldn't be nerfed because it's favorited by gaijin 😂

I still dont understand how can they excuse this vehicle for being 10.0 ( except for printing them money )

Now give the Begleitpanzer its APFSDS, HOT missiles and make the gun more accurate (because it's currently MUCH worse than this ones)

Fan base: 2s38 is op! Move it to 11.0. Gaijin: Niet comred is good for balans Fan base a year later: 2s38 is op move to 11.0! Gaijin: niet comred stats say is ok. Players: 2s38 is op move to 11:0! Gaijin: we decided to not change single number in code, instead we made whole new system so Derivatsiya stay at 10.0!

You can’t really say the new modules is a nerf when pretty much every other vehicle got new modules as well.

Its a definite buff...and its still at 10.0

7:18 sadly as balancing goes, it's kinda terrible as Gaijin's only adding flat AF urban maps/maps where this thing is able to utterly dominates 90% of them. (also lmao I forgot the buff of it getting gen 3 thermals on its drone, I don't think there's a single drone in the entire US tech tree that gets better than gen 1)

one thing that I noticed while doing a test drive. The heat signature will go up with the ring, but it will be able to fire all rounds without over heating.

This tank is pure fiction, yet Gaijin claim that the Abrams doesn't have DU armour in the hull because it would break the transmission (which sources actually show is completely false). Absolute clowns.

The fact this thing is a lower br than the Namer is ridiculous

Move it to AT LEAST 10.7

that thing desperately needs a nerf.... super OP

Being able to fire all of your ammo without waiting for your stowage to replenish is op. But I think if someone shoots your electronics component while you’re firing, you will not stop shooting until you repair it or until your ammo is gone. I’ve seen several 2S38’s now just keep firing nonstop for no reason after getting shot and it’s kind of funny. That’s the only possibility I can think of as to why that was happening.

It's a huge buff, being able to fire all those rounds is ridiculous, and its harder to ammo rack the turret now too

Players: Nerf the 2S38!! WT: Casually buffs it

there's actually alot of games that i haven't saw the 2s38 maybe because everyone was running the t72 turms

Because of the current update there has been multiple times where I have stopped a 2S38 from killing me just by destroying the slab of electronics in the back of the turret. While they did change the autoloader to what it realistically should be, I would say that the internals have gave it a hard nerf

It's a solid buff, it had a 20 round mag so it would stop firing and need to reload, allowing it to be easily overwhelmed if they aren't a great shot or was wasting shots beforehand, now they just keep blasting

I deleted my previous comment thinking it was nerfed, it isn't, it's not right that you can keep firing every shell you have even when your gun overheats, I get it's a premium but damn this thing neds to be balanced, it's not like people will not buy it and or won't play it.

Lovin the vids Justin keep the content rollin

In Arcade battles the destruction of the radio station causes a loss of marked vehicles on the minimap and screen. Until it is repaired.

@JustinPlaysTV the radio on vehicles is more useful in arcade as it is what allows you to see the target spotted by your allies (the better the radio crew the further away from you you broadcast your intel). Although i'm not sure the radio destruction has any effect on that.

So, what other modern and extremely broken Russian vehicle will they add next? The 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV, the Kurganets-25, or even the T-14 Armata?

how is this thing still 10.0 is crazy, meanwhile a worse american counterpart is at 11.3 💀

Compare it to every other nation's IFV at that BR, and it outclasses them in every single way.

Meanwhile they buff those vehicles while the Swedish light tanks wich suppost to have a fast load or a anti missle system never get fixed(edit and I forgot to mention there stabilizers, or could we aswel say how less chanc you have to ammo rack a T type tank due to the ammo rack .. meanwhile blowoutpannels still wonky)

That’s a buff. If you flank or play passive, damaged model won’t change anything. However, the 140+ rack is changing how you can switch target and do multiple frags

What was the autoloader first ammo storage befor? like 35? I think I've hardly ever had any problems with a shortage of ammunition in this thing.

I also love 10 - 10.3, perfect happy place for stridsfordon & chill thing is; A 2S38 hull down is a problem for even the 9040, that thing is a goddamn *demon* in the right hands and right map. I've had plenty of matches where one starts popping people right outside of spawn and then half the team has to dedicate 5-10 minutes to keeping them suppressed while 2 bumrush and kill them before doing anything else that match.

FPV drones would make an interesting case study for the armies around the world, see how players shift the meta to combat that.

Please Gaijin, where's the KV-13 or T-43 medium tanks?

the radio is for the Artillery or speeches of your commander so that it is a bit worse

just a guess but may be the radio is for artillery strike thing, when it is broken, you can't call in artillery. Need to try it tho

Having your radio damaged could be implemented by not being able to spot enemy, or see enemy spotted by team mates & not receiving the directional info about enemy aircraft.

I mean, saying the 2s38 got buffed because of the modules might make more sense if they buffed any of the other vehicles that got modules, but they didnt, and it really didnt need the buff so idk why they decided that that was a good idea

Justin belike: hitting driver ?? *the gun stop working*

Everyone forgot about the puma when this thing came out. And gaijin straight up forgot about the hstvl.

I have had 3 games in a row where I have shot the 2s38 in its carousel (be it apfsds froma mbt or apfsds bushmaster), made it red and it have no effect on the 2s38.

Playing against those things while using Germann Tech Tree at 10.0 is a pain in the ass. Imagine facing that thing head on and what you are gonna do, you don't have armor.

The radio station is for calling artillery

Should I get this or the t80ud

Radio adds 14mm of plain pot metal steel

i never had issues destroying it before this update. but then again, it never had any issue at destroying me before this update. problem with the 2s38 is that its essentially one of those light vehicles with a big gun, except its gun reloads faster than anything else. even the Strf9040’s struggle to destroy things from the front and often don’t break barrels, and only one gets a aircraft lock on ability. this thing gets more pen, explosive mass on the rounds, proxy aa with aircraft lock on, a large first stage ammo rack, can destroy thing from the front fairly easily and on top of all that, an unmanned turret and its the same br as the Bradley ((if not lower cause the m3a3 is 10.3 and this was 10.0)). destroying it isn’t the issue. the issue is how effectively it can destroy you and break your gun with one to two shots then hammer you with its high pen fast reload APBC before you even get a chance.

fpv drones would be the ground equivalent to modern fox 3's already ingame

Famous last words- “Why do I feel like it's coming from behind, I think it's from behind".

ı know you played a10a in line up video recently but can u take another video for a-10a ı bought it but i cant use its agms well i need some tactics for it thank you for videos btw

i think gaijin doesn't change anything on the radio module, i was thinking if your radio module is destroyed you will not received or sent a scout mark and ping from the mini map

Don't think it's gonna change it from being the most broken vehicle in the game but one can hope.

destroyed radio should: -disable your ability to call arty -not see scouted targets unless repaired

Everytime I see these, I breathe a sigh of relief knowing I’ll get at least one kill that game

9:43 i just noticed the anime character hahahaha, nice

MY GOD, one of my fav vehicles have been buffed

Did they take the gaint dozer blade off the T-90 Bhishma?

I truly don’t get why people say this thing is OP. I see it I shoot it’s front It dies It’s really that simple. Even if you only see the gun, just…..shoot it. You’ll either ammo rack it or disable it

Got it after modules were introduced, not upset at all. It still shreds.

Well tbh when you play this thing, the name of the game is not get shot at so having more modules that can be damage really doesn’t mean much when you try not to get hit anyway. But add to that, you now get practically no first stage ammo, so together it’s actually more broken

Improved firepower but I mean… the 20 round ready rack was already more than enough, and now it’s even less survivable than it was. It’s not like you can even hide the hull because you have no gun depression to use hull down tactics. Definitely still a good vehicle, but I wouldn’t take it over the 9040 BILL or depending on the situation, the BMP-2M. To this day I don’t understand why people over-blow its strength massively. It’s a glass cannon, like most other light tank. It’s low key more difficult to not to instantly cripple these things.

I wish you could take off the useless armour on the sides, the reason why you can't is because it's classified, but IRL it's most likely filled with Styrofoam or egg cartons in traditional Russian fashion, so they have no idea how much it weighs or how effective it is.

Can you take out the t82av turms? You haven’t really took it out in a long time

If you don't get shot (which you don't typically) then you won't notice the 'nerfs'. I think the biggest thing that made this BS before was the ability for it to 'tank' shots and not blow up.

It can kill the tanks. It can shot down the planes-helos. It can sink the submarines-aircraft carriers. It can destroy imperial star destroyers.

dude i hate this tank. Its so ridiculously op that its a good vehicle on your 11.7 lineup.

very happy to see you can disable a 2s38 that is hull down now.. before you couldn't because the vertical targeting wheel thing wasn't modeled. not a nerf, just a balance.

I wouldn't say it was nerfed tooo hard, but it feels more like a fair vehicle to go against.

I find this thing and it absolutely slaughters the whole lobby, at 11.7

I got harrased to death thru smoke and he fired well over 20 round so yea its def a buff

Maybe if you destroy the radio arty stops working?

Yeah, I have seen a couple 10.0 games without the 2S38 sonce the T-80UD got added, but it's been literally like 2 games. Also Russian 10.0 is so full of premiums (and the BMP-2M) that it's the most played nation at that BR and so like 60% of my matches at that BR are mixed gamss

The new autoloader is absolutely broken. I used to average 1-3 kills per game, then I went to record a video of the 2S38 myself and almost instantly got a 7-kill game. I tried to record it before the patch and the thing actually got buffed really hard, not nerfed

I feel maybe they could add something like loitering munitions instead of Arty? idk how it would work though.

Brother, I bring this thing to 11.7. Def not first spawn, but it's a bench warmer for sure. Haven't played it yet with the new details though. Taking a bit of a break.

i played a lot of 10.0 too. only a few without seeing that thing

Pretty sure the radio is used for showing enemies pos on the mini map. Like an enemy close to ally but not you, but you see the enemy on the mini map because of its proximity to your ally.. if this at all makes sense to people. Sorry not great explanation I'm sure. Hope it helps a bit

Hmmm not a 100% sure but you would think destroying the Radio Station would prevent the use of arty and would reduce or completely disable seeing enemies on the minimap. But i cant say i have experienced this since i can pretty much count on one hand how many times i noticed my radio being destroyed.

could you do a video on the vextra if you haven't already

its insane to me that they think the 2s38 and the puma should be at the same br

Bagel panzer is still my favorite AA light tank thing

This vehicle shouldn't have been added, simply because gaijin has no way to balance it that doesn't end up with it broken or nearly useless. The 2S38 doesn't have a ready rack at all irl, it's one straight belt of 57mm, gaijin was just too lazy to remove the ready rack but was willing to fix it to how it is irl anyway, the pontoons are also removable irl so we got that to look forward to. Moreover gaijin reclassified the vehicle from it's original name "Деривация ПВО" ("Derivation SPAA") to "2s38 the light tank", why? I have no idea, but it's like that.

I think the PVO is more skill dependent now, because you can't play it as a MBT (like how a lot of players play it) without being evaporated by an enemy. But on the other hand, if you play it like a support or a sniper, the full autoloader transforms the PVO into a death machine. So yeah, with all those modules, the 2S38 is not for new players.

If the ''nerf'' is something you have to hit in order to affect this thing its really not a great nerf, instead it got stronger with full ammo count available. that being said im gonna buy this thing to have something else than turms,bmp2m and su25k in my lineup

There isn't a single game above 10.0i don't see it. Speaks volumes seeing these wrecking sepv2 and sep

lol he did not think the bias Russian dart could not pen a kpz 😑

if this thing have all ammo in one belt, its impossible to swap between them!

Does t62, t72, t80 and t90 have any substantial frontal weak spot? No, most used russian tanks are still broken op.

Comment that is completely unrelated to the Video. When you get severely damage by a Italian truck SPAA and try to J-out, it says "The Kills will be Rewarded to the Pizza Truck" lol. Not completely sure but I say it happen to me in GRB

Yeah the no ammo limit in quick storage should buff it up in BR

Hstvl is the same thing but worse armor, worse fire speed, worse rounds, no aircraft radar, no proxy fuse, less crew, and sits at 11.7 for some reason

Radio is for calling artillery

12:47 Ironic considering the vehicle your in

I hate the fact that something Like the Striker that is defenetly a competeter but it hast No aa capability and ITS Historicly inacurrate the gun Depression irl is -10 degrees to the Sides in wt ITS Just -5 and i think thats just unfair

neither a nerf nor a balance, just like before if it gets hit by any MBTs, its usually cooked

People complaning bout this thing while forgetting things like the wyvern, F-5C, xp-50 and many other cancer and OP premiums exist... Like, buddy, its how it is, some of these will be blatantly potent cuz it gives them money

Honestly it feels like it is killing me less now? Perhaps more people bought it and are new to higher tiers.

Isn’t this thing a dedicated SPAA in real life?

how did you got that teddybear?

I believe if your radio is destroyed you cant call artillery but i could be wrong

the 2s38/ Derivatsiya is tenicly irl a triple aaa not a light tank