Awesome vid really needed to see this cause I’m on a big downswing and all this is me rite bow. Wanna win and don’t wanna lose and nothing is going my way so it just makes it all worse
That graph is not just variance. Swings can be really sick but not this sick unless you re doing something very wrong on the downswing and something very right on the upswing. At least according to PrimeDope this is impossible
This is a graph of someone that probably plays abit to high for their skill level and also overplay their all in situations, constantly going all in to light and overbluffing for sure. But im sure some here will disagree strongly 😉
@@kristoffernilsson6043 I expect its someone who thrives on running well and starts playing awesome with confidence and at the other extreme tilts hard and loses way more than they should when cards and runouts are going against them - thus explaining the extreme swings in both directions
I agree 100%. I’ve been playing online for 17 years and I’ve never had more than a 20-30bi downswing and I was probably tilted for a part of that downswing
Poker is no longer a “side income” thing. It’s too competitive to be able to win just playing casually on your free time. You need to commit fully or not touch it.
@@dantonkull6491That is completely false. I am a full-time professional gambler, but only a small fraction of my time is dedicated to poker, exclusively live. It's a fun supplement to my income that brings me in something like $50k extra per year. While $50k might not seem like a lot, it adds up if you do it every year on-top of your main income.
@@Ohrami 50k is an insane amount of money to over 90% of people. Stop humble bragging. It makes it sound like you're either lying, or a dick. Most people reading your comment can only dream of making 50k a year, let alone from poker. While I agree with the sentiment that poker can absolutely be worthwhile doing part time, you negate your input by sounding like an out of touch knobsack.
After a massive 80 BI sunrun last month. Im now in a stretch I have hit like 60 flops in 60k hands. -33 BI so far. After every downswing you face in this game you think: "Well, I cant run any worse then this. So thats good I guess...." But the next downswing always seems to be way worse.... All bluffs being called. Valuetowning yourself on the river (and most of the time saving money because villains are bad at getting value, making it even more tilting in a way....) Everyime you 3b the biggest nit in the pool has a cold 4bet. Losing with AA pre flop allins over this stretch aswell. Lost with AA vs QJo, A5s (5+ times), AK (10+ times) and the rest.
Definitely! I feel the part when you said saving money vs bad players who don’t know they have a clear value spot. That tilts as well when im running bad lol. It’s like my subconscious telling me “how am i losing to this idiot” lol. But when im running well i just laugh at their inability. It’s a really weird phenomenon 😅
I'm feeling like the video is talking directly to me! Everything he says describes literally how I am thinking and reacting. Especially when he talks about the fight or flight in a big pot because I want to end the stress. Just Wow 🤯
Don't think it's really relevant to be honest. Pete admits he struggles to put volume in and his mental game is an issue. If he's a winning player at 200NL great, if he's a losing player at 200NL...doesn't mean we can't watch his videos and learn from them. Sir Alex Ferguson was a very average CF but he helped transform Cristiano Ronaldo into the most deadly CF in world football.
Thank you Pete for such a great video! I would like to see more content from you on this topic. I want to build a healthy poker player mindset, to learn how to "think" poker.
Thank you for this video! Needed to hear this.❤ The sick thing about the AT hand, is that if you would actually play A4 like that , villian would check back 99.9% of the time 😂
This message really hit home today. I play live for a living and have been on a downswing since October 1st, which in the grand scheme of things isn’t that long. However, I’m committing every one of these sins currently.
I think the biggest sin was that we checked the river. Bet/folding 30-40bb on river > check/calling river in my book. After checking, I agree tho that we should fold. This guy flatted you from HJ, so it's very likely his ranges are all over the place. We can still get value, although I would agree it's thin.
the second reason is why I quit the session 90% of the time if I'm down more than a few buyins. better to reset and move onto the next session/day rather than deviate from your game because you're stuck and/or tilted.
Really interesting video and your points definitely make sense to me, but it's hard to remain objective when you want to make an income from poker and you're trying to build a bankroll and downswings keep stopping you from doing that. I'd be interested in your thoughts on managing this mental stuff, and the bankroll, while trying to get to a sustainable income.
I’m up over 60 buy ins so far this month. I probably needed this reality check. But in a lengthy career in poker I’ve never come close to a 100+ bi downswing 😂. That student is 100% donking off playing badly for long stretches. Idgaf about variance.
That hand felt like a set. He just flatted pre and then all the way. What’s his VPIP vs cbet frequency? I get the bluff catcher thing but how do you know that guy bluffs. Some players just can’t bluff, while others just can’t help it. Balanced players are a special breed. Why are you damn cool mr carrot man?
First sessions today played 10nl was about 1 buy in over 5 hours. But losing 3 buys ins annoyed me. So decided on a second session but only planned to play briefly for 20 minutes hoping to win 2 buy ins. Anyway played for hours and started to feel nervous. Slow played Aces and lost another 3 or 4 buys maybe made some back at the end. Not good to play simply for the sake of of it when the fun stops... yes stop
?? Poker is NOT still poker when played without money. It's not even poker if the amount of money isn't a risk to you. Poker is about managing risk. Just like investing, just like life.
Wanting to win is a demon. I tell myself, look you have no problem folding 72o pre-flop UTG--you aren't sitting there committed to the hand trying to force your way to the pot. So why are you blowing up 3 bet pots in horrible EV spots just because you've invested in the hand already? A losing spot is a losing spot and just get past it. Still the desire to win a pot is my #1 enemy if I am tired, lazy or tilted
Poker players, and really professional gamblers in general, ought to embrace the philosophy of Stoicism, a philosophy which worships logic. The Stoics hold that if something is in one's control, then one should take action to ensure that it goes in their favor. If one has no control over something, then one should spend no emotional or physical effort or resources on caring or worrying about it. While the philosophy is simple (though it has a few more tenets than the version I've described here), actually executing on it is extremely difficult. If your car breaks down on the way to a tournament, and you miss your entry, it sucks. But did you have control over it? If your car broke down because you were failing to maintain it, then treat it as a lesson learned to take better control over the few things in life you can control. If you serviced your car regularly and took a reasonable amount of precaution against failure, and it just happened unexpectedly, then you had no control over the outcome. Why should you spend any time in emotional turmoil or distress, then? The better you get at ignoring these emotional responses, the better you will be at applying logic and reason in all circumstances, which is the only methodology you have available to you to ensure the best possible outcomes you can actually achieve will in fact be achieved. Some of the greatest Stoics, such as Marcus Aurelius, could maintain their calm through extreme loss, such as the deaths of their own children or their closest friends and allies. In poker, you have no control over whether or not you will be dealt a good hand. You have no control over whether or not you will win a pot. You have no control over whether or not your opponent will overbet the river into your marginal bluff-catcher, and no control over whether or not your opponent will call your bluff all-in. What you do have control over in each poker hand is the decisions that you make regarding your action and your bet size. The only thing that you have available to you to help you make better decisions regarding what actions to take and bet sizes to use is logic, reason, and your own personal understanding of the game. Therefore, you should do the only thing available to you to optimize your result: Apply logic and reason to the maximum. Abandon the emotions of disappointment when facing a loss, the insecurity of being seen as a weak player, or the shame of having your bluff caught by a marginal or even very weak hand. These are not in your control. Focus on what is, and you will be not just the best poker player you can be, but the best possible version of yourself as a person that you can be.
The point is not to hold onto wanting to win the hand at all costs, because sometimes, no matter what you do, you just can't control the fact that you can't win the hand, and if you fight against that you're going to lose more than necessary,
