This is just a joke at this point, the core book should just be a pdf that they can update Warhammer community. The Warhammer app with the rules is clunky AF but relatively handy. Just give us the complete pdf to print out!
I do belive the offer the basic rules as a pdf on their website or atleast used to pre-app but it was hard to find and didnt have any art or lore. happy hunting on their atrocity of a website
Honestly, better this, than the past with no changes and having to deal with it. They're at least trying, and I'm sure whomever they let out of the closet to actually edit rules for better intentions, isn't in charge of the archaic factors that cause the codex drip
GW Saw play on tabletop's insane blood angels Vs World Eaters game and with the nail biting ending worthy of a movie and said "nah nah nah we can't have cool stuff like that ! Remove secret missions from turn 5 !!"
No, it's no primary scoring turn 5 if you took a secret mission. You know, that thing that is capped to 20 points when you take a secret mission anyway.
Surge move hurts a little as a World Eaters player, but I'm home they will update the Blood Angels Death Company Dreadnought Surge Move to allow it to enter Engagement Range with an enemy.
@boredmagala5701 Not as written. Each other Surge ability calls it out specifically that the unit can move to within Engagement range but that sentence is missing from the DC Dread.
So, in the update article, GW said "Orks and Genestealer Cults have been struggling a little since the release of the Chapter Approved: Pariah Nexus Mission Pack, so we have also made a few adjustments there to give them more options," but I'm not seeing anything that really helps them at all. Again, the points decreases are nice, but I'm not seeing any other real changes that could actually help them unless I'm just missing something.
Surge move being powerful? I always thought it was risky as someone who had a good balance of shooting and assault would just take advantage as the gap for charges would close due to how one was positioned on the board.
@alecatnight1540 why? We still had to go to the web site and print out rules updates. Now the only difference is we didn't need to buy the core rules.
Nah it’s fine, this is the kind of edgecase thing people have to look up and they just made the answers more clear here. I would rather have this than radio silence for 3 months at a time and an out of touch balance pass that nerfs bad armies and buffs good ones.
Could've simply saved things like the movement/pivot changes for 11th edition, and given us an extra 3 or so years with an otherwise solid ruleset. I feel like they'll now have to make sweeping changes (for the sake of change) in just a couple of years time in order to justify a whole new edition.
It only affects those who have the secret mission. If you have a secret mission and fail to achieve it, that doesn't mean you get to score primary instead on turn 5. But if you don't have the secret mission (winning in points as of turn 3), you score primary normally on turn 5. Hope that helps
4:10 Wow so they nerfed accursed cultists + dark commune combo 30 points and nerfed the datasheet ability. After changing the ability from the index! Brilliant why did they bother printing the cultist detachment if they were just going to gut the two keystone units in it! And they took away cultist firearms!
I know it's popular to wail and gnash your teeth in the comments section about how frequently the rules get updated, but as someone who plays regularly these updates are great at helping keep one Faction from becoming too dominant. They're not so great at helping struggling factions...but that's another story.
Are the Accursed Cultists affected by the Surge Move changes? Their data sheet specifically calls it a "Horde Move". Either they forgot to errata that or it's called something different for a reason...
Yes, they are. The ruling isn't for specifically things called "Surge", but for 'Surge' abilities, which is defined as an ability that allows you to make an out-of-phase move, when a certain trigger occurs
@@CaMooflaged Jumping onto this but would the termigaunts skulking horrors ability be class as a surge move or since the gaunts would make a normal move and not any other kind of move, it isn't a surge move. Mainly asking the classification if i can use the ability while battleshocked or not.
I will simply ignore any rules that aren´t put into the app. I have played competitive MTG and am no stranger to obscure rules interactions and people trying to game the system but the idea that I´m gonna carry around 8 different documents and erratas and designer´s notes and printed out reddit posts and twitter statements as the CORRECT way to play competitive is ludicrous. At that point I just stop giving a shit if its wrong or not and never go to a tournament.
Little hack for all who are pissed about the amount of rules updates. What I did to help with the mass amount of rules is print them out, cut out the new rule and glue it to plain paper, and use very little flat magnets to secure it in the book orr my friend uses a cork board and pins them up on it for a reminder 😅 I had someone else show me they glued the cutouts into the rulebook
I believe the clarification was that their fire on death only activates when they were attacked and for failed hazardous tests. They cannot fire on death if they were destroyed by emergency disembarkation, desperate escape, or other non-attack destruction.
Yes, but it also has "Each unit can only make one Blistering Assault move per phase." so this update doesn't change this ability anyways. To explain in more detail why they do class under this effect the ruling isn't for specifically things called "Surge", but for 'Surge' abilities, which is defined as "an ability that allows you to make an out-of-phase move, when a certain trigger occurs"
As I’ve said in previous comments, this is going to continue and probably get worse. They simply do not care anymore about creating a good game. The game is an engine for revenue generation, and one they’d like to be rid of. Old school tabletop gamers are no longer the target audience. GW wants 40K to be a media/video gaming franchise like Star Wars or Halo. They are simply going through the motions with tabletop, have been for awhile now, while they curate a new audience. It sounds doomer but it’s just facts. All of their nonsense decisions make sense when you view them from this angle. As soon as 40K becomes a household name, they’re going to drop us toxic fans like a sack of rocks. Be prepared.
@@Atom-Phyr One page rules! 7th edition! You don’t need a bunch of redcoats that don’t understand their own IP to enjoy Warhammer. It’s for everyone, remember? Even people they‘d rather pretend don’t exist 😉
Oh FFS! 🤬 You don’t see Chess or Football or any popular game changing their bloody rules every 5 damned minutes. I play once a month casually wanting it to be fun and just when I think I’m beginning to comprehend the rules… BAM! They’ve changed the rules again! 🤦♂️
This has to be bait, but- Such a false equivalency, do many popular games have constantly changing rules that update the ways things work all the time. Including tabletop, video and irl games. Either way, I'd personally prefer if they kept the rules dynamic so things can be fixed. It's never a static game. Just maybe make the rules mor accessible.
