a few months ago i was looking to see if anyone had made a video around the 458 garand and to my surprise there was none on youtube, you are literally the first person on youtube to cover this gun
@@LuisSanchez-oe5viit's recoil is very intense. Most people aren't big enough to use this caliber repeatedly. It's more like a gun that people shoot a few rounds through then never touch. Then people that are able to handle the recoil for more than a few shots have to deal with the rounds cost
@LuisSanchez-oe5vi because the 30-06 kicks,but its not to bad on your shoulder. The 458 is that MF on your shoulder and u dont shoot it for fun! Hurts way to much!😊 Hope that helps
Administrative Results being huge into medieval bows, and Kentucky Ballistics being huge into medieval melee implements, and Garand Thumb being huge into yee olde muskets gives me all kinds of hopes and dreams for an elaborate collaborative larping video someday
If they could make it more reliable it would be an honest beast in combat. I mean, its going through armored cars, cinder blocks, whatever, and still tearing up anything in its path. The armor plate stopped it, but still probably did more than bruise a person.
@@Riyame 505 Gibbs is WAY too big to go in a garand action. 505 Gibbs is a MASSIVE case. 458 Win is basically max size cartridge all around that will go in M1... in every dimension. I've got both an M1 rifle and 505 cases sitting not too far from me
I rented a 458 Win Mag at the shooting range. I purchased only ten rounds, and that was more than enough for me. It was fun, but, as Scott said, "she be kickin'!"
Not surprised the gun jams often - the Japanese had similar problems converting the M1 to their own 7.7mm cartridge in WW2. The whole feed cycle of the M1 seems unforgiving of attempts to change calibers without serious redesign (guess .308 lucked out being so similar to .30-06)
@@vicroc4 It's a matter of slow-burning powders still having high pressure at the gas port when the base of the bullet passes it. 4895, 4064, Varget, and a few other powders are in that sweet spot for combustion speed that will get optimum velocity out of the M1 while keeping port pressure within the design constraints. You're right, though; high gas port pressure does bend op rods. I was wondering about the Underwood ammo Scott was using. Come to find out Underwood does offer a Garand load, a 168-grain bullet at 2700 FPS. That's what Scott said he was using. 2700 is about 200 FPS slower than slow burning powders can push a 168 (or 165) grain bullet to.
@@alflyover4413 Yeah, the powders recommended for Garand loads are usually faster burning than modern load data for .30-06 recommends. In fact, a lot of the powders recommended for the Garand are the same ones you'd use for .223 Remington. Burns up more quickly and the pressure drops off before the gas port, I guess. I had no idea that Underwood offered a Garand load. 168 grains doing 2700 fps is a real thumper for a M1 - my loads are down in the 2400 range for a 168. Underwood lives up to its reputation. XD
I like how you mentioned that the gun is as elusive as Bigfoot because in the movie Harry and the Hendersons the villain/Hunter uses 458 magnums to hunt bigfoot
Rich McCann was a friend of mine. He was a genius level gunsmith out of Spanaway Washington. I've seen his 458 Garand. It was functional art that worked flawlessly. The gas system has to be designed perfectly to be reliable.
@4949shooter Richard always told me that a few people tried it but could never make it work correctly because they didn't understand how to redesign the gas system. He understood it and his gas system design made the rifle run flawlessly. I wish I would of had the money at the time to buy one.
I was noticing that the shells were not ejecting well. Got to think that when it was rechambered only the parts that "had to" be changed were. Getting this gun to work well will likely be a serious re-engineering problem.
My thought was if the magazine well where the clip sits was widened, the wider clips would let the rounds sit snugly against each other so they weren’t missing the feed ramp. Not a gunsmith it just seemed like Kentucky had to guide the rounds into the chamber every time it jammed
@@kylewright7596 I have to wonder if they were using the original 30-06 clips, thus the misalignment when a wider cartridge is being used. Probably also needs a new tuned gas system and a beefed up ejector as well. Would be interesting to see where the tip of the 458 meets the feed ramp, seems like one "side" of the clip was feeding better than the other. It probably goes without saying that a retrofit on an M1 is going to be chasing all the specs that are designed for the 30-06, an entire re-design from the ground up for a M1 action built to the 458 would work wwwaaayyy better.
I am a member of 4 veterans organizations and perform military funeral services in both Ohio and West Virginia. We still use the M1 Garand for these ceremonies. As a US Marine veteran, I am only 5ft 1 1/2in tall and used to the M16. Yes, the M1 is a different animal. But, I think I handle it quite well. lol
Did you go into the underground tunnels in Vietnam ? I'm not being cruel I'm seriously asking. That had to be one of the most dangerous jobs in the Vietnam war very scary stuff
@@AmberLeeMcKnight-t9o tunnel rats, that was a horribly dangerous "job" that needed done by the military. I was in the Army 01-04 an I've heard stories from my uncles that were in the military, an from others in the Legion an that was a situation that was not only Extremely Dangerous, it was necessary but I wouldn't want to go in those tunnels.
@@AmberLeeMcKnight-t9o I was not in Viet Nam. I served from 1977 to 1983, as an Expeditionary Airfield Technician. We stopped tailhook aircraft with the cable, similar to what they do on an aircraft carrier. And we built portable airfields.
The fact that this behemoth has a Bayonet lug is absolutely hilarious to me. It's like a Barret having a Bayonet lug it's so unnecessary but hilarious and kinda cool 😂
Can you imagine if the military had given their soldiers the Winchester version of The Garand. Imagine that field report. "I had an enemy combatant in my sights, I fired the rifle, hitting him, the guy behind him, the guy behind him, the troop transport that was on site behind them and the three guys on the other side 😂"
or the sniper variant your discussing battle plans with your superior and then a shot rings out. The corporal has gone from standing in frount of you to being EVERYWHERE.
@@gunmunz Interesting bit of news I learned from a video with a sniper over in the sandbox: They often are taking long-range shots in support of troops in an active combat situation. The enemy is firing, and there are other gunshots going off, so they don't hear the sniper's shot from a mile or so away, even from a .50 BMG. The sniper can "walk" the rounds in if they need to and the target's friends don't know where the shot came from.
Take a dremmel and widen the space that houses the clip, then use it to decrease the grade of the feed ramp a tid bit, and machine some guide blocks for the sides of feed ramp(optional), then polish the bolt, feed ramp, breach, guide rails if there's any, and basically anywhere theres metal on metal contact to help keep as much force as possible on getting the bullets chambered.
Outstanding! Just a thought: the Losok Valkyr system can turn a garland into a mag fed rifle, with BAR mags. If you did that with your big boy you’d have a high capacity, self-loading, mag fed elephant rifle!!!
Scott : *_*Shows off the M1 Garand like it can be bought on every street corner_** Me : *_*Cries many salty (but manly) European tears over the fact he can get an M1 as easily as a Unicorn_** And I'm not even going to start about today's entry... on this side of the Atlantic, most people could only hope to *_dream_* about handling a rifle like that, let alone own one.
Been watching for years. That was the single best intro you've EVER done! Great tribute to the best drill instructors. Can't help but think of the late-great R Lee Ermey - but with much more acceptable language, lol - may he rest in peace.
Standard home door in Israel: The "Paldal" door is constructed of 2 sheets of galvanized steel (to prevent metal damage in oxidation-reduction processes) with a thickness of 1.25 mm with welded longitudinal reinforcements. The door is equipped with a multi-bolt locking system consisting of 7 bolts that connect to three door jambs the door: 5 bolts connect to the frame next to the lock. One bolt connects to the upper frame. One bolt connects to the frame to which the hinges of the door connect. In addition, the doors contain special cylinders that make it difficult to break them. Please do an episode
I know that I was one who has brought up this to you several times. You have no idea just how stoked I am that you got your hands on one...👍🏻😎👍🏻 Definitely needs a bit of work to get it running right but never the less ....look forward to seeing more videos with that rifle...👍🏻😎 You're awesome and thanks for the excellent videos.
I did some trading at a gun show several years ago and I ended up with a 458 win mag. It came with the original box of 20 shells bought with the rifle minus 2. I held on to it for close to 5 years and when I got rid of it that same box of shells went with it again minus 3. 😂😂
To facilitate the break in of your rifle after you load the clip spray it down with some WD 40. Then load it into the gun you'll find out that it improves you're results. I bought and Arsenal refurbished M1 carbine and I had to spray the rounds down with WD40 and then put them in the mag and after about a 100 rounds everything was broken in and working perfectly.
I swear you guys are grabbing up all of my high school dream guns, lol. Between this, the .950 and Brandon's M82A2, theres only one gun that I don't think you guys have yet that I loved years ago. The .600 Nitro revolver, I think it was Pfeifer Zeliska. Sucker was huge, and you only saw a few pictures of it online
*🇰🇷South Korean soldiers who used the M1 Garand Rifles during the Korean War reportedly did not prefer the rifle, which was designed to fit Westerners, because it was too big and heavy. However, it was also a rifle that could not be easily thrown away in terms of its formidable destructive power and semi-automatic rifle advantage over the Mosin-Nagant rifle used by the North Korean military at the time. According to testimony from veterans at the time, the head, arms, and legs of the enemy forces that were hit by the M1 Garand Rifles were necessarily cut off.*
8:00 From what I found, Flush Toilets (like the one Scott has) have been around since ~1880 C.E. However, flushing toilets didn't become common everywhere until the 1930's with electricity. It looks like people got to work installing electricity and plumbing once they got home after WWI.
@@chincemagnet B.C. = B.C.E & A.D. = C.E. I used C.E. for Common Era because that's what we use in public schools now. We had to switch because someone complained about separation of church and state for calendars.
I live one state over from Scott. The sight of him stalking toward the camera with the sword and helmet on at the end made me physically glance at my door to make sure it was locked.
Thanks to Kentucky ballistics showing all these much higher caliber big game hunting rifles. It makes the one from the original Jumanji movie look like a daisy bb gun 😂
Awesome video! BTW, did you know that the guys at Guns & Ammo magazine converted a Browning semi-automatic hunting rifle (i.e. Browning BAR hunting rifle) to .458 Win Mag way back in 1974? Their project is described in the September 1974 issue of Guns & Ammo magazine.
