The 5 Best Investments in Watches. (Rolex, Tudor, Hamilton) 

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Great episode, but given the title of the video, I didn’t notice any mention of Tudor.

For me GP laureato is a better alternative than Chopard Alpine Eagle.

Your chemistry is what makes the videos...please keep doing them together!💕

Really enjoyed this discussion! Not just focusing on value but where the best spot is for one to put their money into a hobby they love, also is a very big factor in our market great video!

I agree absolutely 💯. I love the history as well behind these brands. It adds to the overall experience of the watch. 🔥

Would love to see more videos reviewing watches you guys have in the shop! :)

Spot on! I have the Skeleton Oris Propilot X and it's the most impressive watch in my collection by a mile. Great watchmaking for the money.

I love you guys…..there was a distinct whiff of Q.V.C about this video 🤣

Great subject and convo. That Oris skeleton is awesome.

I don't know how Theo and Harris doesn't have 1M+ Subs yet. Best you'll find in the watch space by far!

i went to my local dealer and no kidding they had a two tone date just available for sale, i was in shock could not believe it that they have something in stock.

I agree older/vintage watches are way more interesting than new stuff. The 50s 60s omegas are the best imo seamaster,constellation what have you. I can’t get one at this point but I love to look. Thanks for the videos. The inventory you have in the shop is always excellent

Shout out to Oris - extremely undervalued brand with an inhouse movement

I love this approach to watch collecting and "investing". A question on the Lange. What about a white gold modern Saxonia from Lange for the early Lange? Will the Saxonia not hold it's value in 30 years?

Thanks for the discussion. I think there is a couple of points on value for a watch that sometimes people miss. Vintage watches were made in smaller qualities and the frog foot Rolex was because they were hand painted dials. There is value in scarcity. Design is important for value. The Royal oak design is worth a lot and has been refined over 50years. The design of the size of hands case bracelet all make a good watch as a piece of art. If Mona Lisa had an ear that was too big would it still be as valuable? And last value is based on who is buying the watch and what they want. High end price people want different and unique. Lower end tend to want something that is dependable and quality, Christian and Michael want something that has history. Value of anything is subjective but you can’t blanket apply value to different buyers. The guy looking for a Richard Mille could care less about a chopped Iron Eagle. The guy looking to complete a set of vintage submariners could care less about an a lange Sohne. You have to look at each watch in its appropriate category and historical context to determine its actual market value otherwise you come across as ignorant to the current buyers market and can’t actually see value outside of your person preferences. Cheers 🍻

I’m surprised one of you two didn’t nab that Lange. Under 15K, perfect for small wrists, not a circular watch, maybe it’s not girly enough for Christian😉😂

Nice stuff. Think instead of the Chopard, I'd go for GP Laureato at the price/style.

1:20 that’s what I thought when I snapped in 2019 an unworn GP Laureato 38 with leather strap for 3500€ (4200 USD at that time)… well, it turned out that people understood at the end

Guys forget the watches for a minute, where did you get that striped sweater!? I appreciate that👌🏾

I also think the Octo Finissimo with the ultra thin movements is a great value

That gold arkade hits differently! What a watch!

I agree on the Lange v Cartier. You should keep it

Good grief. That performace by Christian was like Nick Cage doing Castor Troy!

Elegance definitely goes to Patek, I think the VC Overseas has the best bracelet in this space owing to the micro adjustments and the exchangeability and strap OEM options, although the Nautilus did push back with micro adjustments in the 5811, yes there is no easy switch system, but who’d want to take off that bracelet anyway, right? Chopard has some work to do

These two dudes are super funny I love this content 🔥

A good investment in a watch, for me, is a watch you still enjoy and value five years or more after you purchase it, regardless of the price you paid.

Love to see you both!😎⌚️✌️

Great video. Value for money has become very important to me as a watch collector/enthusiast. Since I’m not a millionaire like you guys (😉), I’ve had to be smart with my money and what I buy to get the most value out of my dollar. I’ve always wanted a Rolex Day-Date and there’s no way I would pay or can afford the new Day-Date 40s. I discovered that you can find 36mm Day-Dates, 18038 and 18238, for $12k-22k depending on condition etc. After looking and searching, I found a mint 18238 (double quick set) with original boxes and paper for $17,500. Crisp edges, no bracelet sag, and beautifully aged day and date wheels. I sold my Submariner, Speedmaster, and Tudor to get this. While those three are great watches, you find them on everyone’s wrists. A solid 18k yellow gold Day-Date on the other hand is not something you see everyday!!

Hey like it when Michael is here too. Like the videos. Great quality etc. But I don't need to get a killer deal or steal. I just need to get the ones that interest me.

Oh come on Chopard, I held it tried and it and placed it back down. It’s not about showing the watch to someone and saying why there’s an identical watch at 18K more… it’s about wearing somenthing with pride even if no one knows it and not a “would have liked the more expensive one but..” I agree with most of the others but Chopard shouldn’t make somenthing in between an AP and an Aikon 😅

Longines Conquest 39m black Flawless fit-n-finish Thin profile for the design Wide sizing range Deep black lacquer dial 300 W/R Modified workhorse movement Screw down crown w/ guard Outstanding lume Mixed finishing Framed Date 78hrs power reserve Longer history than Rolex ……$1250 retail / $1000 +/- GM Unbelievable value

Oris makes a beautiful line but to be perfectly honest I don't see the deal other see, they're quite expensive for the levels of finishings, just look at the price of replacement bracelets they're definitely shooting above their weight. Not in a good way. Second hand prices also reflect the fact they're more of a trend item than timeless pieces.

Are guys gonna cover the new breitling gmt?????

*A MINI ANTI ROLEX RANT... Think I did okay with my IWC Mark 16 for $3000.... Still available for that price which is half of the current model... really great watch. I really can't justify paying huge money for new Rolex models. For much less money in most cases you can get an older Rolex model, like you said, or Omega, JLC ultra thin 34mm, Blancpain Villeret, Zenith Elite, Cartier... and so much more.... and it's more unique and special.... to me anyway.... I suppose if you do get a call and its retail prices then its okay , but I find most modern Rolex just too heavy and chunky and thick.... is it just me? Even the 36mm models are nearly 12mm thick... Rolex should show more skill in their watch making and create thinner cases. It's just one example of them being a high volume of production machine.... not as refined as we deserve for the prices they charge. I honestly believe that. I've owned Omega and IWC. And really loved them for much less money and with no waiting lists or kissing any AD's asses.. I've also tried on vintage Omegas, Tudor, IWC and others.... and on several occasions, I walked into ADs and tried on a few new Rolex models like the sub, gmt, gold Daytona , datejusts and OPs...... just not that impressed with them

I'll take them all!! Give me those watches, come on, don't tease, you gotta please. 😏 🔥

You guys shoot straight with us, I’ll shoot straight with you. I feel the entire episode topic was conjured and produced to sell your A.L.S. Very sneaky, boys. Good luck.

Was Christian’s watch changing back and forth an Easter egg or was this just filmed on different days? Lol

Most guys only look at Rolex and ignore everything else, especially mid-tier brands, or brands higher than Rolex. Many think you NEED a Rolex to validate a collection or it will make you a "collector".

wheres the tudor at

What's Christian got on the wrist this episode?? White dial

Love the Hamilton!

Most of the video is an ad for Theo n Harris website, not a fan of the obvious promotion

Tudor doesnt appreciate, it only holds value.

One thing's for sure watches aren't investment or it isn't a hobby anymore. I see them as pure loss often if they increase that much in value I'd feel obligated to flip them, that's what happened to all my Rolex how could you not sell at 5x+? What's happening in the recent years is just weird market conditions you can't count on that for your retirement markets flip too fast. Only 40 yrs ago pocket watches collectors were often making fun of people who collected wristwatches.

Collection update?

When you emphasized "but vintage gold filled", on the Hamilton, where you suggesting that vintage gold fills were better?

Came here for the snarky comments, and was not let down. People are so touchy these days hahahahaha

i miss Johannes.

How is that Hamilton worth $3000-4000? Literally all the ones that have sold on eBay, pretty much identical to that, sold for between $476-$949. Pretty sure you overpaid if you paid $1500. There's one thats not exactly the same, but close, black dial, full set for $549 or best offer. Even the highest ASKING price on eBay is $1995 (which they can ask any amount they want nobody is paying that much). You could buy 6-8 of these watches for $3000-4000. I'd say someone would have to be a fool to pay that much for one of these, judging by current, actual sold prices.

I’m not sure how 7k for a 10yr old DJ represents value, but hey ...

36mm 🙄. You guys have wrists the size of a 12 year old.

Click bait.Where was my Tudor 🤔

Sorry guys but something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it Don’t for get art some art sell for millions of dollars is it worth I don’t think so Watches are the same they are now considered art And if one one to pay hundreds of thousands in a auction To them it worth it Please don’t compare some watches like Rolex are very speacial Vintage Rolex are in great demand very hard to get and are very special

The most shameless plug I’ve ever seen

Christian has such a shrimp like posture. Dude needs to stretch.

14:04 so what? “So it’s quartz”. Not all quartz is created equal . Don’t be snobs about quartz. It has its own innovations and makes people’s lives easier. It should be celebrated. The idea of “upgrading to mechanical movement” is ludicrous

I love watches but as an economist, I find this talk of value laughable. Cherry picking a few watches that IN HINDSIGHT have gone up in price is not in any way investment advice. 99% of watches lose value immediately after purchase. No one knows what prices will do in the future. If they did, they would be instant billionaires.

Investment watches? Really? Can you youtubers not just stop talking about this so this hype game can finally stop?

Stop advising people to buy watches for investment! People and channels like you destroy the hobby. Watches should be bought by people who appreciate them, and kept for a long time. Not traded!

Just bought a Cartier santos Galbee :)

No value at the moment as most prices are 📉