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The 5 BEST MATT VARNISHES that really work! (spray/airbrush/ultra matt/budget-friendly) 

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Finding a good matt varnish that doesn't frost or gloss your Warhammer models is hard... lucky I'm here to help. In this video, I compare the (in my opinion) 5 best matt varnishes for spraying and airbrushing Warhammer and tabletop miniatures - from budget-friendly to ultra matt. A list of all the products & where to find them is available on my website: taleofpainters.com/2022/02/to...
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0:00 Intro & definition
1:27 Budget varnishes
2:44 Munitorum Varnish warning
3:12 Most matt varnishes
5:40 My favourite matt varnish
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@jamesn2830
@jamesn2830 Год назад
Here’s a tip for varnish frosting: just apply gloss varnish. It completely disappears and then you can Matt it down again like it never even happened. Also I’d like to share my experience with poly-Urethane varnishes from Vallejo. I’ve used these through my airbrush and with paintbrush for years and have never had an issue they are my go to for sure. -ultimately finding what works for you matters most. For rattle cans, here’s a key tip for me: warm the can in warm water for 20 minutes prior to shaking it for 1-2 minutes. It will be evenly dispersed and reduce the likelihood of undesirable finishes. Happy painting all
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Good advice, thanks :)
@gutssubz8232
@gutssubz8232 Год назад
As per Vince Venturella's advice I find 3 drops of ultra matt to 1 drop of satin varnish, through an airbrush, to have the best finish of any varnish out there. Definitely worth a try.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Interesting, I have to look for that video!
@gutssubz8232
@gutssubz8232 Год назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rEyRbhYc8L8.html @ 07mins 50 I find yourself and Vince's product videos to be outstanding. I love the formats.
@DrNorbertGames
@DrNorbertGames Год назад
Fantastic video per usual. I’ve stopped varnishing my models as a sealant without any ill effects. I’m curious why you do so, unless you were trying to mask an area that you then do another painting technique on top of it?
@gutssubz8232
@gutssubz8232 Год назад
@@DrNorbertGames If I understand your question, when wargaming then it's protection against constantly moving your models and paint coming off. Also, protection when dropping models. If doing neither of those then it ties everything together as different paints are slightly Matt/saying/gloss, so then it levels it out to the same level of shine. When it comes to ultra Matt varnish then no paint can give that look a lone without the varnish.
@DrNorbertGames
@DrNorbertGames Год назад
@@gutssubz8232 Thank you for your reply. I was told the same thing about protecting the minis, but I just haven’t seen that much more wear without varnish as with. Although I can see your other point about trying to even out the shine of different paint lines.
@LoboDerPraesi84
@LoboDerPraesi84 15 дней назад
Army Painter Anti Shine (and Aegis Suit) are the best spray can varnishes I have ever had. I never had any frosting with them, compared to other brands like Citadel and Vallejo.
@KimHarderFog
@KimHarderFog Год назад
I've been brushing AK Ultra Matte on with brushes for years now - Great result every time.
@Wijkert
@Wijkert 4 месяца назад
Always nice to see overview videos like these. Not many channel do them.
@sonicwingnut
@sonicwingnut Год назад
Got started with varnish the other day when I realised I needed some to help waterslide transfers blend a lot better. Tried some Humbrol from a bottle at first which was terrible, but the Army Painter stuff was pretty good. Definitely left a slightly satin coat which didn't look bad by any means, but I found shaking the absolute hell out of the can for a few minutes gave nice results, even in low temperatures.
@MarcoSchmandt
@MarcoSchmandt Год назад
I have been using Vallejo matt varnish for ages now and for the cost its really nice. At first, I brushed it on manually but now I use it with the airbrush and it works nicely. Unfortunately, the varnish isn't super matt, but that's the only negative I have experienced.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Some advice regarding the ultra matt varnishes: Lucky Varnish Ultra Matt really needs 24 hours to cure. Mount the model on a painting handle or piece of cardboard to spray and don't touch it afterwards. Even if the varnish seems dry, it's very easy to rub off. Green Stuff World's Max Matt cures a bit faster, but still needs a couple of hours before it's safe to touch. Keep in mind that ultra matt varnishes in general are not that durable and pick up scratches and buffs easily - the more matt, the more delicate a varnish will be. For gaming, I recommend using the spray varnishes mentioned in the video, or using regular matt varnishes, preferably with a coat of gloss varnish first. A list of all the products & where to find them is available on my website: taleofpainters.com/2022/02/top-tip-stahlys-best-matt-varnishes-for-painting-miniatures-spray-brush-on/
@sweatilaa5325
@sweatilaa5325 Год назад
I remember my first frosting experience... I varnished in my cold basement and left the minis to dry there. Not very optimal... But cleanup was surprisingly easy. Took some olive oil and applies it generously to the minis and left them for a day or two. Then gave them a bath to clean off the oil and varnish them again and not there is no sign of them ever being frosted. Nowadays I leave them to dry afer varnishing in a room temperature room and sometimes under my desk light and have never had any frosting happen to me. For varnishes I tend to go for Montana Gold matt varnish spray cans and they give them a pretty nice matt finish and they are reasonably priced at €8.5 for 400 ml here in Sweden. According to the can they also recommend applying it in two layers for an even matter finish but I have never needed that. And as a fun side note, their gloss varnish has the product name T1000, which I find amusing enough to share.
@georgeratkowitz8023
@georgeratkowitz8023 Год назад
I use Vallejo rattlecan varnishes (gloss, satin and Matt). Matt is ultramatt, satin kinda matt, gloss is great for pre oil work. This is when I want to somewhat save the brushstrokes. If I want to blend the drybrush and contrast paints i use 3$ cheap rattlecan matt varnish as a first varnish (it's usually kinda glossy), wait for it to dry 24hours, and varnish it with Vallejo matt or satin varnish (depending on the miniature details: metallics, wardrobe, etc). This way i get smooth transition as the cheap hardware store varnish does the dirty cheap trick blending for me 😎 One thing important to remember is, you kinda want to go ultramatt as your first varnish, and you can drybrush it later gradually with satin and/or gloss varnish just the tip drybrusb for the shinier parts. You basically follow the zenithal rules for varnish also. The only time you want to go with gloss as your first varnish is if painting slimy or sweaty effects.
@DieL4ppenWG
@DieL4ppenWG Год назад
Right now using the vallejo mecha varnishes. They need to dry longer but are pretty resiliant etc. Also the matt varnish is like reeeeeally matt. Can recommend so far.
@timbe7979
@timbe7979 Год назад
Using the same one!
@mansgrankvist3035
@mansgrankvist3035 10 месяцев назад
Just got vallejo matt varnish, mine is really satin😢
@HeadHunterSix
@HeadHunterSix 2 месяца назад
Vallejo Mecha matt varnish is my go-to. It even works very well as a brush-on product.
@HeadHunterSix
@HeadHunterSix 2 месяца назад
Be sure to drop a bead or mixing ball into the bottle, and any time you use a matt varnish, be sure to shake it a _lot_ . Shake it like it owes you money. If you don't, the matting agents have settled to the bottom of the bottle and what you get is regular varnish.
@waldgir
@waldgir Год назад
I use dilluted Vallejo Matt Varnish with brush. The finish is a bit glossy but it still looks acceptable for me. If i need the ultra matt finish i use the same varnish but with the airbrush :D
@budgetwebsiteservice
@budgetwebsiteservice Год назад
I know you were commenting on how some matt vanishes leave a grainy finish, but this grainy finish is actually necessary as a tooth (grippy surface) if you use any type of weathering powders to finish off detailing your models, just as a satin or gloss finish is needed for washes. So it really is subjective depending on the level of detailing each modeller likes. You can get a flatter finish, without the tooth with the matt varnishes you airbrush if you thin the matt varnish 50% with water for the final sealing coats...
@Himle_
@Himle_ Год назад
Great to see someone include MiG products. While their paints can leave a little something to desire (except the sweet DIO line), their Diorama, Auxiliary products and Kolinsky brushes are top notch imho.
@chb8602
@chb8602 Год назад
AK Ultra Matte mixed with Citadel Contrast Medium. Goes on with a brush, looks like an airbrush finish, very smooth and not patchy. Adding more contrast medium increases the satin finish if required.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
I've seen that recipe in Duncan's video! Have to give a try.
@georgeratkowitz8023
@georgeratkowitz8023 Год назад
A bit pricey combo you got there 😜
@nocturnenoble2468
@nocturnenoble2468 Год назад
As always, thanks for going to such lengths to share your experience and knowledge! I have a single can of Munitorium Varnish but am seriously considering buying Mr Topcoat on your recommendation. Especially since I purchased a Stormcast Eternals battleforce and would hate for all that gold to lose its lustre.
@abbadonslostarms-kbd1393
@abbadonslostarms-kbd1393 11 месяцев назад
How I miss Testors dullcote
@Ally.Cat.252
@Ally.Cat.252 Месяц назад
Yesterday I just used my can I bought 6 years ago.
@Wijkert
@Wijkert 4 месяца назад
I too have had issues with AK ultra matt in the past, but it was from a bottle going bad. Before it did (and my new bottle) have worked without issue. The key to a even finish is to thin it down (even though it is already quite thin). A great advantage of thinning it down is that you also get way more control over the finish you are looking for.
@goforitpainting
@goforitpainting Год назад
Cool video as always.
@Hellspawnxxx
@Hellspawnxxx Год назад
You should try Vallejo Mecha Varnish its pretty amazing.
@bluedotdinosaur
@bluedotdinosaur Год назад
I must join in on recommending Vallejo's mecha varnishes. They cure to a really durable finish which is good for wargame models that are gonna be picked up a lot. They were intended for Gunpla where models have moving parts which will be rubbing together.
@ultimapanzer
@ultimapanzer 2 месяца назад
I fixed a Munitorum can frosting on me by just brushing on a layer of Lahmian medium straight from the pot. Restored the finish to the same satin as other citadel paints.
@scooteroo1701
@scooteroo1701 Год назад
Ive used Krylon Matte Finish spray for a while now and really love the coverage. Admittedly I haven't looked to see if it leaves a texture but I haven't noticed anything obvious. Its pretty cheap for what you get as well. I've taken some older models that have some sheen to them and recoated with the matte finish and it brought them right back down to no shine at all
@mattcurr9931
@mattcurr9931 3 месяца назад
it was my go-to but hard to find it Australia now :( it's really good
@markgnepper5636
@markgnepper5636 Год назад
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
@georgeratkowitz8023
@georgeratkowitz8023 Год назад
Key advice for varnishing, especially with rattlecans is to varnish at below room temperature 15C ideal, but humidity must be in a 50-70% range, this also goes for rattlecan priming.
@speeddemonpainting7050
@speeddemonpainting7050 Год назад
I'm just going to shout out the Windsor and Newton matt acrylic varnish. Huge bottle for not a lot of money and it really matts everything down when applied through my ultra-cheap single action external mix airbrush. Dilution is not needed with this type of airbrush.
@TheBackwoodsboy95
@TheBackwoodsboy95 5 месяцев назад
Great vid! Was curious if you've had any experience with the non spray can version of the premium top coat you'd spray through the airbrush?
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters 5 месяцев назад
Not yet!
@nerdmitbrille_miniatures
@nerdmitbrille_miniatures 6 месяцев назад
I totally agree with your choice for your favorite varnish. I'm using this one myself for some time now after i tested out many other and i'm really happy with the results. However, as you have already said, this one is quite expensive. Therefore i'm using AK Ultra Matt varnish and thin it down with some contrast medium which also gives some great results.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing!
@jasonmoon4916
@jasonmoon4916 Год назад
If using a rattle can the hands down best is Testor's Dullcote
@tartine3492
@tartine3492 Месяц назад
are there varnishes very protective or do I have to use the gloss, to Matt varnish technique
@richardokeeffe8375
@richardokeeffe8375 Год назад
Windsor and newton general purpose. Goog price, nice finish, never fogs up
@Macruelmorticody
@Macruelmorticody Год назад
I use Humbrol Matt varnish in glass bottle (not the metal pot), with an airbrush. Worked well for my father, work well for me.
@timothythorne9182
@timothythorne9182 Год назад
I also found the Army Painter spray can to be very satin or almost glossy. I just bought the Air version hoping it's better
@t-shirtedhistorian
@t-shirtedhistorian Год назад
I had a can of Krylon crystal clear acrylic coating I used on a lot of my miniatures. Since it left a glossy finish, I would use a bit of Testors dullcote over the top of it, and that seemed to fix the problem. But it's a little ridiculous to have to use two different sprays to get a good varnish. And truthfully, I didn't observe closely if it left any of the grainy look that you've observed in most sprays.
@sebastientrochetdajungkim1918
Useful video thanks. What would you advise to use to varnish metallics?
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
I like the Mr Topcoat Flat in the non-premium version, which is a nuance less matt than the premium version, I use it for my Silver Skulls, see the end of the video :)
@UntiltedName
@UntiltedName Год назад
For rattle can I like krylon gallery series matte, this stuff is great and easily available in the US. In ideal spray conditions I too have had Citadel Munitorum ruin miniatures before.
@InnuendoOutTheOther
@InnuendoOutTheOther Год назад
VMS is hands down the best varnish, specifically the matt
@ikillyouu2
@ikillyouu2 Год назад
Great video. Testors Dullcoat is the best matt spray can I have found.
@maxbrandt6
@maxbrandt6 Год назад
In a few years that Testors Dullcoat will yellow up badly, you can't even get Testors products now since the company went out of business.
@ikillyouu2
@ikillyouu2 Год назад
@@maxbrandt6 I have used Testors Dullcoat many times over the years and have never had a problem. No yellowing at all.
@MiniCountry-zu9yl
@MiniCountry-zu9yl 4 месяца назад
I use testors dullcoat all the time (you can still get it online) never had a problem with yellowing. I think it's great.
@DefaultProphet
@DefaultProphet Год назад
That AK Ultra Matte 3:1 with AK Satin is a really nice finish.
@WilliamChoochootrain
@WilliamChoochootrain 8 месяцев назад
I just _KNEW_ the no.1 choice in the video was gonna be a Mr. Hobby varnish. I've been using their Mr. Super Smooth Clear Matt for a few years and haven't found any other better spray can alternatives.
@brendanarmstrong7802
@brendanarmstrong7802 4 месяца назад
Now, I'm not saying everyone should switch over, but I've been using Mr Hobby Mr Super Clear flat for years on my acrylic minis with absolutely fantastic results. I really should pick up some of their topcoat to see if it's the same. I will say that the Mr Super Clear has an ultramatte finish from what I can tell. It's pretty much indistinguishable to my eyes to a layer of AK Ultra-Matte through the airbrush.
@danielbaxter3902
@danielbaxter3902 Год назад
For those who don't want to use lacquer varnish then I would highly recommend VMS products varnishes. They are pretty much the go to product in scale modelling for gloss, satin or flat
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Excuse me, what does VMS stand for?
@georgeratkowitz8023
@georgeratkowitz8023 Год назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters Vallejo Model Color
@georgeratkowitz8023
@georgeratkowitz8023 Год назад
I am a huge fan of all their rattlecan variants - Gloss, Satin and Matt.
@danielbaxter3902
@danielbaxter3902 Год назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters vantage model solutions, great products all round
@danielbaxter3902
@danielbaxter3902 Год назад
@George Ratkowitz no not vallejo, VMS is Vantage model solutions
@ribofen
@ribofen 3 месяца назад
Yesssss Mr Hobby!
@gomezzara_art
@gomezzara_art Год назад
Excellent video! I really wasn't expecting a varnish review. It's a whole little world I've been exploring as well. Currently I have been using Vallejo's premium varnish line (from the Premium Airbrush Color line) and it has been the one I have had the best results with in conjunction with VMS Supplies. At least as far as Matte is concerned. But Ultra-Matte, I'm starting a paranoid conspiracy. Has it happened to you after a while that the varnish "disappears"? I have many miniatures with the varnish and that have not been exposed to the sun or similar, but over time have lost the varnish and have become either Matte / satin to even Glossy. I don't know if there is something I'm doing wrong, or the ultra-matte varnish is much more delicate than any other brand and requires something more. Will something like this happen with other brands, or does Mig Jimenez have this tendency? On the other hand, Premium Top Flat is wonderful, but it's really a shame not to be able to find stock. The limitations of bringing sprays to Latin America is quite difficult... Have you seen Mr.Hobby acrylic varnishes in use? I've been exploring that alternative for airbrushing for example. Once again, excellent video my friend.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
No, not yet... weird. I'll keep my eyes open. I don't think Mr Hobby has an acrylic airbrush varnish, the varnishes in their Mr Color range are solvent-based.
@escapebeyond7078
@escapebeyond7078 Год назад
thx
@maxbrandt6
@maxbrandt6 Год назад
I remember how good Model Masters matt clear coat was, a step or two above the Testors stuff and it doesn't leave a yellow discoloration to your models after a few years. Sadly, Model Masters line of paints and glue is now long gone. Mr. Hobby matt varnish is decent, though.
@TexMechsRobot
@TexMechsRobot Год назад
I've still got my bottle of acrylic Model Masters and it's relatively full. I love it through the airbrush.
@MiniatureMasterClass
@MiniatureMasterClass Год назад
Testors Dullcote is the best matt varnish by leaps and bounds, but I don't think you can get it in Europe.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Unfortunately not :(
@rpiazza72
@rpiazza72 5 месяцев назад
Love it this has been my good to since a can of army painters frosted me.
@cyberc0l0mbiana
@cyberc0l0mbiana Год назад
Thanks for making this! Awesome stuff. Could Mr. Hobby’s Premium Top Coat yellow over time? If wanting a semi-gloss finish, do you still recommend using a gloss finish first and then semi? Also, does it attract more dust than others?
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Haven't experienced any yellowing yet. For a semi-gloss finish, I'd say just go for a satin varnish (which are usually quite glossy). AK also has a semi-gloss varnish spray. And yes, glossy paints will attract more dust.
@cyberc0l0mbiana
@cyberc0l0mbiana Год назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters Thank you! I appreciate the response
@OldManb1981
@OldManb1981 5 месяцев назад
Can you show do a video where you show off your new best airbrush varnish. Seem to recall a it’s 2 parks AK ultra Matt with 1 part Vallejo mech Matte?
@TimTheGrim
@TimTheGrim Год назад
I used the premium topcoat as you suggested for my Black Templars. Sadly I really heave problems with whitening/mild frosting on all black or dark paints with this spray. Do you have any recommendations against that? I followed the usual instructions (right weather/humidity, warming, shaking, distance and movement...)...
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Really? Oh no. This should be a premium topcoat for a reason. Never had any issues. Maybe try a different can? The more matt the spray though, the more it will knock off the intensity of dark paints though.
@TimTheGrim
@TimTheGrim Год назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters Ich schreib Mal auf deutsch 😁 also danke für deine Antwort. Ich bin echt ein bisschen am verzweifeln...ich hab den Premium Topcoat auf deine Empfehlung hin gekauft nachdem man an meinen eigentlichen Favoriten (Testor's Dullcoat) hier in Deutschland anscheinend leider überhaupt nicht mehr ran kommt. Muss auch sagen es ist definitiv die beste Alternative die ich bisher probiert habe. Aber während ich mit dem Dullcoat so ziemlich machen konnte was ich wollte und der mir immer ein super cleanes mattes Finish geliefert hat ist der Topcoat bei dunklen Farben und speziell schwarz (Black Templars) immer ein bisschen körnig, aufhellend und frosty. Ich versuche eigentlich die üblichen Tips zu befolgen....Dose schütteln und aufwärmen, nur bei passendem Wetter, 30cm Abstand, eher nebeln statt sprühen, 2 dünne Schichten statt dick auftragen....aber trotzdem. Naja...falls du keinen Tipp hast woran es liegen könnte muss ich es nochmal mit einer anderen Charge versuchen vllt hatte ich Pech. Irgendwas besonderes ist ja auch bei dem Topcoat nicht zu beachten oder? Danke schonmal für die Antwort
@gdmunn83
@gdmunn83 Год назад
Army painter anti shine Matt spray is the ONLY varnish that has ever frosted up on me
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Ah damn :(
@rpiazza72
@rpiazza72 5 месяцев назад
Yup me too
@Wijkert
@Wijkert 4 месяца назад
Maybe something that could have been added to this video is that airbrushing on ultra matt varnishes is mainly to change the finish, not to protect the mini. You did mention that aerosol varnishes protect more, but I would go one step further and say that airbrush varnishes protect as much as an extra layer of paint does.
@FB-rf5ry
@FB-rf5ry Год назад
Interesting that you has several cans (and replacement cans) of Army Painter varnish come out glossy. I had a similar thing happen with multiple bottles (and replacements) of their washes, which let to me giving up on them entirely. AK Ultra Matte seems to have a (relatively) short shelf-life, after which it starts to aggregate in the bottle and apply more grainy, so perhaps that's what happened here.
@naphaneal
@naphaneal Год назад
Montana Cans varnishes are my goto seal. Then a touch up of gloss, matte, or satin to restore effects on selected parts...
@sweatilaa5325
@sweatilaa5325 Год назад
100% agree with that. They are pretty good while not being too expensive. More people should give graffiti products a try at least once, in this hobby we buy a lot of stuff we only end up using once or twice anyways.
@rpiazza72
@rpiazza72 5 месяцев назад
I dabble with these too and have found them to be really good
@docremington1589
@docremington1589 Год назад
If you can find it in Germany, Winsor and Newton professional Matt varnish spray is ultra Matt and has never frosted on me. It’s a pain to find though.
@travelminipainter
@travelminipainter Год назад
AK Ultra Matte Varnish is my go to with the airbrush. Needs to be well shaken and slightly thinned out with airbrush thinner and applied in very THIN coats, preferably over a gloss varnish that seals the minis in. hen it is the mattest of matts out there. So matt in fact, that you really do need to go over TMM with another coat of gloss varnish to bring back the shine.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
If you like AK Ultra Matt, maybe give the Lucky Varnish Ultra Matt from Ammo MIG a try, I found it much easier to get an even finish with that :)
@nomusenopaint
@nomusenopaint Год назад
Funny how the experiences differ when the same product is used. Lucky Varnish by MIG completely went mad on me. It was matte but went disgustingly sticky to the touch even after days of drying. What works best for me is the Vallejo Premium Varnish or their Mecha Line :)
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Yeah this varnish really needs 24 hours to cure as they say on the label, before that it will rub off easily. Ultra matt varnishes are quite delicate!
@hav6301
@hav6301 Год назад
I've brushed both vallejo matt varnish from the standard range and the mecha ranged and they made the miniature really gloss! I don't know if airbrushing them would change the results. I've used AK ultramat by brush and it made the mini so matt and desaturated that kinda ruined the paintjob. Might try the ak standard matt, or the new vallejo game color matt, by airbrush, specially for metal made gaming minis. It'd be super helpful to tone down the gloss from the washes (army painter or citadel) whilst not ruining your metallics like the ak ultra matt does
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
If you want a matt but not super matt, than the brush-on Anti-Shine from The Army Painter is not too bad, there is also an airbrush matt varnish in their Air range, or try the the Lucky Varnish from Ammo MIG in the regular matt version. The new Game Color varnishes are all polyurethane-based, I'm not a fan of that.
@HeadHunterSix
@HeadHunterSix 2 месяца назад
It sounds like you're not shaking the bottle well enough. Be sure you have a bead or mixing ball in it and shake it a lot. You need to re-distribute the matting agents, which naturally settle to the bottom.
@hav6301
@hav6301 2 месяца назад
@@HeadHunterSix looking back in time, it might be this... however I tried Vallejo Polyurethane Matt Varnish 72.651 and it does a great job so Im using that one now
@alessiodecarolis
@alessiodecarolis Год назад
I use Valleijo's matt polyurethane varnish, applied with brush, never had any issues, before I used Humbrol enamel varnish, but Valleijo's are surely better.
@georgeratkowitz8023
@georgeratkowitz8023 Год назад
I have had issues, it forms bubbles when applied with brush. Does it happen to you too?
@alessiodecarolis
@alessiodecarolis Год назад
@@georgeratkowitz8023 Nope, as I said never had any issue with Vallejio's varnishes, either gloss, matt or satin, they also helps to "cancel" CA's icing on minis, I use them exclusively with brushes.
@victord3867
@victord3867 Год назад
How'd you get the lettering on the rim of the base?
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Self-printed decals on decal paper :)
@victord3867
@victord3867 Год назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters would you ever consider a short tutorial on how you did it?
@aldarisunseelie
@aldarisunseelie Год назад
Is there an airbrush variant of the Mr Hobby varnish?
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
They have some varnishes and clear coats in their Mr Color range, but from what I've seen, they're all solvent based, so for me it'd be too risky to give them a try.
@Bunyip_Studios
@Bunyip_Studios Год назад
Instar Paints Varnish+, best matt varnish and reasonably priced
@marq0992
@marq0992 Год назад
I love the Premium Topcoat but have you ever notice that after spraying sometimes that metallic looking specs sometimes gather in the recesses? Only happens sometimes.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Mmh, maybe you're spraying on too much so that the varnish pools in the recesses? A single spray burst from each side at around 15 to 20 cm is usually enough, better spray two thin coats than a single thick one.
@marq0992
@marq0992 Год назад
@@stahly_taleofpaintersWill do. Thanks.
@TheTintinjb
@TheTintinjb 3 месяца назад
I was thinking on doing brushing. Any reason why you did not review as an option?
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters 2 месяца назад
It's tedious as hell and hard to get an even finish
@TheTintinjb
@TheTintinjb 2 месяца назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters Thanks for the quick answer!
@HeadHunterSix
@HeadHunterSix 2 месяца назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters sadly, it's the only option for some painters. I live in a small apartment with nowhere to spray, and insufficient ventilation for airbrushing.
@DaThingOnTheDoorstep
@DaThingOnTheDoorstep Год назад
When the alternative is brush on, I guess I'll have to stick with the AP matt spray. It's relatively inexpensive and is readily available from my FLGS. Next cool trick these hobby companies could do is figuring out an airbrush solution to those forced to live in human resource storage units, or studio apartments as they're branded.
@Jason-gq8fo
@Jason-gq8fo Год назад
Do you have a solution to the fact that matte varnish ruins red paint? It’s driving me crazy haha. I really want a proper matte varnish but my normal method of brush painting on ak ultra matte with a bit of satin mixed in makes red look crap. Other colours are fine
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Can't say I had this problem before. Post some pictures on our Discord and I'll have a look: discord.gg/zSrehpqDTV :)
@LegionaireSiggi
@LegionaireSiggi Год назад
Thanks for including AMMO by Mig in your review. I much prefer them for airbrushing as at this point as AK is a non-starter and I'm still surprised so many people still recommend them.
@SteveForteGMR
@SteveForteGMR Год назад
I've seen Mr Super used over water based acrylics. You need to make sure the paints are properly cured; not just dry. Little correction too. It's Ammo by Mig not M I G. If you want to keep metallics shiny... don't matt varnish them. And matt on black turns it grayish due to the way a matt finish is rougher for a less reflective finish.
@brianabela4533
@brianabela4533 Год назад
I have been using a lot of Mr. Super Clear Matt without any problem on acrylics. It works really well, no frosting effect. It specifically states it is for use on acrylics and has an acrylic resin with an organic solvent. I think Stahly must be mistaken in his warning. The organic solvent used should not affect the acrylic paint.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Mr Super Clear's product description says it's not suitable for water-based paints and that it could damage decals. I didn't try it myself though and got Mr Topcoat instead. Good to hear that it works for you, but I cannot recommend it if the manufacturer himself issues a warning.
@toferkrz946
@toferkrz946 Год назад
I've been using Vallejo Matt Varnish, the one in the white spray can. I've had no issues and I'm quite satisfied with it. I'm curious why you didn't mention it. You haven't tried it, there's something wrong with it or just nothing interesting to say about it?
@swaaahtome
@swaaahtome Год назад
Same, only thing is the smell.. smells kinda like gone off lamb.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Got a can of that a couple of years ago. It was quite matt, but for me, it went on unbelievably thick so it quickly pooled in the recesses and dried cloudy there. Since then I avoid it. Maybe I got a bad can? What are your experiences in this regard?
@toferkrz946
@toferkrz946 Год назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters Interesting. Like I mentiones I've had no technical issue with it myself, but I don't have a point of reference regarding the finish since prior to this I only used satin varnishes. Looks matt enough for me. I use it to even out the glossy finish you sometimes get with washes and contrast-style paints.
@mrgunn2726
@mrgunn2726 Год назад
Testors used to have a good matt varnish, also Krylon had a good matt varnish.
@Klickor
@Klickor Год назад
Munitorium isn't really matt though. It's satin or half matt. I love it for most 40k models or models in a lot of armour but it is just too shiny for models with a lot of skin or more organic materials found in the middle earth range. I use Vallejo matt varnish on can for those instead.
@Khrist75
@Khrist75 Год назад
I'm a 50 yo miniatures painter (35 years of experience) and my sole advise is : Stay away from Army Painter products...They're cheaper than the other brands but their qualities are drastically far below as well. I used their paint, base coats, varnishes, etc... and i experienced everytime some various issues with their different stuffs. Indeed, Japanese brands are obviously the finest stuff and deserve their fame despite their (very) high prices. IMHO, spanish brands (GSW, AK, Vallejo, Ammo, etc...) are the best compromise (i was a long time a Citadel user before to swap to them...) . Good video as usual...👍.
@maxbrandt6
@maxbrandt6 Год назад
Much agreed!
@a.k.summers5633
@a.k.summers5633 Год назад
So much this. The only stuff I use from them nowadays are Speed Paints
@Khrist75
@Khrist75 Год назад
@@a.k.summers5633 Honestly i prefer to stay with my Contrast or Xpress Color sets (No reactivation and flawless application guaranteed).
@a.k.summers5633
@a.k.summers5633 Год назад
@@Khrist75 I like to play with reactivation when speed painting gritty/organic stuff, so they have a place in my tool box :) i also find they flow better
@Khrist75
@Khrist75 Год назад
@@a.k.summers5633 Indeed Contrast paints are a bit thicker, so I make my own contrast medium where i add flow aid to improve it and delay the drying time...😅
@a.k.summers5633
@a.k.summers5633 Год назад
My AP mat varnish has a horribly tendency towards glossiness. It's terrible.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Yeah it seems sometimes you get a batch that is more glossy :(
@jamparke
@jamparke Год назад
This video needed more brands tested.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Thanks for the feedback 🙇🏻 Over the years, I tried and reviewed quite a few more varnishes, but for this video I narrowed it down to the five tht I think work best.
@markconnelly1806
@markconnelly1806 3 месяца назад
Not sure why you need to use varnish unless you are trying to change the finish look. I have models I painted 30 years ago and they still look good. No varnish applied. Who stores models in direct sun or outdoors.
@HeadHunterSix
@HeadHunterSix 2 месяца назад
Because you don't play with them. Many (probably most) miniature painters use their minis and models in tabletop games, and frequent handling will result in wear pretty quickly - even with the enamels that you used on those models.
@Jomi91
@Jomi91 Год назад
Testors used to be the top G, surprised there was no verdict on this.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters Год назад
Unfortunately, Testors is not available where I live (I also heard that Dullcoat isn't as good as it used to be).
@Jomi91
@Jomi91 Год назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters I heard this too, same with Winsor 7. I will see for myself eventually I suppose.
@miniaturefun-guy
@miniaturefun-guy 11 месяцев назад
Genuine question. Why are you varnishing plastic miniatures especially if you are intending to photograph them. I’ve only ever varnished metal minis to avoid chipping.
@stahly_taleofpainters
@stahly_taleofpainters 11 месяцев назад
To protect them from handling (and, every now and then, I have a game of Kill Team). When I spend hours on a model I want to know the paint job is protected. On my models, paint tends to rub off from the edges super quickly, especially thin edge highlights. Maybe because I got sweaty fingers, don't know.
@miniaturefun-guy
@miniaturefun-guy 11 месяцев назад
@@stahly_taleofpainters fair enough. Maybe I should varnish my plastics. I hold everything by the base and ask my appointments to do the same. I play a lot of blood bowl, which can be rough on minis, and I’ve never noticed and of the paint wear off.
@simplesmile6984
@simplesmile6984 Месяц назад
GW varnish ruined my model i worked weeks at, wont EVER buy it again
@Ravenorxx80
@Ravenorxx80 21 день назад
Me too ... I applied a new coat with the AK matt spray and recovered my figurines. The olive oil trick is not for me
@puzzlejinx
@puzzlejinx 7 месяцев назад
It's MATTE. With an E.
@HeadHunterSix
@HeadHunterSix 2 месяца назад
Welcome to the rest of the world, where we omit unnecessary silent vowels.
@markpr73
@markpr73 7 месяцев назад
This guy sounds like Rammstein’s Richard Kruspe.
@HeadHunterSix
@HeadHunterSix 2 месяца назад
Maybe he is - have you ever seen them both at the same place?
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