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The 7 Cheapest Tricks Pulled By Fighting Game Bosses 

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Ask any fighting game boss and they’ll tell you that you get to the top by being a total jerk, screwing over everyone else, and cheating everyone with the cheapest tactics imaginable, as you’ll see from these cheapest tricks pulled by fighting game bosses that really should be illegal. Enjoy, and subscribe for more videos like this from Outside Xbox!
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@Megadoomer3
@Megadoomer3 Год назад
Surprisingly, King of Fighters '95 doesn't weaken its boss characters once you unlock them, so Rugal's Genocide Cutter is still insanely powerful even when he's playable in that game.
@blastmole299
@blastmole299 Год назад
I think all of the bosses in KOF are still broken if they're unlockable, the only exceptions are regular Rugal in '98(just a mini boss here tho) and Rugal in 15. They're all banned in tournaments for a reason
@amwoodco3049
@amwoodco3049 Год назад
Street Fighter III 3rd Strike did thensame with Gil. Want a really easy time? Play as the guy who can go down and recover his HP.
@Shadoboy
@Shadoboy Год назад
That's why, in Mexico, where kids always gathered around the arcade machines in the local grocery stores, you'll be considered THAT KID if you picked Rugal.
@blackchibisan8116
@blackchibisan8116 Год назад
@@blastmole299 Geese in Neowave wasn’t broken anymore either. I can absolutely tell his move set in that game was designed towards his boss buffs because he is bottom tier trash without it.
@randomnoobonyoutube7463
@randomnoobonyoutube7463 Год назад
@@Shadoboy lmao same in Mozambique, there's always that one kid that spams rugals supers
@riksweeney
@riksweeney Год назад
SNK's bosses were so notorious back in the day that it coined the phrase "SNK Boss Syndrome", which outlined pretty much everything you mentioned in this video.
@thedrewdog
@thedrewdog Год назад
I always found it hilarious that Ryo flat out tells Geese that he thinks his methods are honestly pretty cool, I've never seen a hero give props to the villain like that, not in a fighting game. It'd be like Ken randomly complimenting M. Bison's drip.
@WhiteFangofWar
@WhiteFangofWar Год назад
Sometimes happens when the player's character is evil too, like Juri meeting Seth.
@thedrewdog
@thedrewdog Год назад
@@WhiteFangofWar I'm talking "face" characters, the good guy basically saying "I like your style you meglomaniac" is so strange.
@CraigSmithII
@CraigSmithII Год назад
That's an example of bad writing. Fighting games back then didn't care about storylines until KOF changed that
@thedrewdog
@thedrewdog Год назад
@@CraigSmithII Oh I remember all the bad translations, but I still can't think of any other way to take it. Especially since we know how bad Geese is, and that makes it even weirder, because it also goes against Ryo's character. I could see Robert Garcia saying that MAYBE.
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior Год назад
Two more: many bosses simply don't take knockback or hitstun from most moves, which is common enough as to be expected. However, some bosses also have the ability to teleport or dodge mid-combo, while they should be taking hitstun, instantly stopping any combo and forcing you to fight for position again. Devil Kazumi from Tekken 7, for example, uses this frequently.
@lugismansion2400
@lugismansion2400 Год назад
I don’t know if this counts since Super Smash Bros is not your typical fighting game but in Ultimate Dracula can teleport around a fighters attacks and not only that, in his first phase ONLY you have to go for the head otherwise your attacks does NOTHING
@user-jw2it4qf2r
@user-jw2it4qf2r Год назад
@@lugismansion2400 Dracula's from an action platformer and directly takes his mechanics from his source genre so he's entirely fair. His attacks are telegraphed and slow, and he doesn't take hitstun but he doesn't do fighting game combos either. If he was instead just a Ridley copy that ignored rules of the game he'd be one of these.
@lugismansion2400
@lugismansion2400 Год назад
@@user-jw2it4qf2r yea, everyone except for Galeem, Darkhan, Master and Crazy hand, that boss from Brawl and Giga Bowser take their entire move pools from their respective games, I say Dracula is one of the more unfair to fight against because he has 2 phases when none of the other bosses even HAS 2 phases, for some of the fighters he’s nearly impossible to take down on their own sine Dracula is a tall character who whom you can only damage via the head in the first phase, becomes invincible when he transforms into bats, I can go on forever but I’ve ranted long enough(no I am not a Little Mac main)
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Год назад
I think maybe Frieza from the DBZ games had this issue. His side-step was an instant transmission, instead of a proper side-step, allowing him to vanish a step back during combos. Frieza wasn't exactly a boss, not in the sense of a final boss of the game, but still.
@usernameluis305
@usernameluis305 Год назад
​@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Frieza, not a final boss? Pff
@TheRealCodeBlack
@TheRealCodeBlack Год назад
I'm surprised "screen filling attacks" wasn't a section unto itself. Once Gill showed up I was sure we'd get a segment devoted just to how teeth grindingly evil Seraphic Wing was.
@TheBlackSeraph
@TheBlackSeraph Год назад
THIS is what makes Gill "cheap" in Third Strike - having access to not one, but two OP supers in a game where characters are limited to one (except Akuma).
@MagmaMKII
@MagmaMKII Год назад
Orochi was the first boss to use a screen filling hyper, with many subsequent KoF bosses also getting their own as well (both Zeros, Mukai, Magaki and Saiki).
@budgetcoinhunter
@budgetcoinhunter Год назад
@@TheBlackSeraph _Three_ supers. He can even drop Meteor Strike on you at times. If he hits with that, you're taking a massive chunk of damage. At least this is his 'bad' Super, so you can block and eat little chip if he does it.
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 Год назад
​@@MagmaMKII Yeah SNK turned that into a kind of trend with their bosses funnily. Capcom only did it once.
@panetoneninjacanal2692
@panetoneninjacanal2692 Год назад
​@@budgetcoinhunter some peopla actually say that this is his best super for competitive play, sadly this isnt gonna happen anytime soon
@CyberDragon10K
@CyberDragon10K Год назад
I think the funniest part of KoF is that Krizalid from '99 was supposedly an attempt at making a _balanced_ final boss. Can't really say how that panned out since I was on the Capcom side of the fence back in the day.
@davidboatwright8688
@davidboatwright8688 Год назад
Honestly I personally found him to be the worst of the lot when it came to SNKs rock hard bosses. Gave me more trouble than Geese, Rugal, ect. Still. Aint no boss like an SNK boss. Samurai Showdown had some strong ones as well
@Krizalid3YE
@Krizalid3YE Год назад
At least, i tried. On KOF UM 2002 i am more balanced. XD
@MikeDeeJackson
@MikeDeeJackson Год назад
I had KOF 99 when I was a kid... Krizalid was not fair at all in that game. Not the worst but he's up there when it comes to cheap
@MikeDeeJackson
@MikeDeeJackson Год назад
@@Krizalid3YE OLD NAVY!
@CasualRemy
@CasualRemy Год назад
I love how most attempts to get in close usually end with you getting knocked back full screen by his Typhoon Rage, turning that fight into a frustrating game of Red Light Green Light
@hououzashintai7421
@hououzashintai7421 Год назад
What’s interesting is, you can actually use the screen filling version of Bison’s Psycho Crusher, but only with a special, secret version of the character. Like Shin Akuma with the double air fireballs.
@emwbjr
@emwbjr Год назад
Isn't there a trade-off with Shin Akuma and Shin Bison where they have either less health or less defense?
@sadowolf
@sadowolf Год назад
@@emwbjr I forget whether it was specifically the case in SFA3, but typically they do have less health as a trade off. I remember Shin Akuma in Capcom vs SNK 2 being the worst case of it; he was awesome offensively, but once you got hit, it HURT. Certain super moves can outright kill him. And of course it's only when you use him haha.
@LainKaplan
@LainKaplan Год назад
There was a version of Bison/Vega in Zero 3 with the full screen Crusher, they had three modes of how to use your super bar. You get the full animation. The damage, not so much. I have Z3 for the Saturn and the World Tour mode where you take on two fighters at once is so hype. Except for Juni and Juli, who are much harder than they were in the regular ladder.
@Yggxiii
@Yggxiii Год назад
You can use that version of super in SFA3 on the Sega Dreamcast when you play 2 v 1 mode.
@omegadragoon1544
@omegadragoon1544 Год назад
@@Yggxiii and Street Fighter Alpha anthology and the PSP version of alpha 3
@jekebe4858
@jekebe4858 Год назад
Ah, another of Andy's fighting game lists, he has an entire mine of salt built up from all the sweat and tears he's spent on the genre apparently lol
@rogerstewart5525
@rogerstewart5525 Год назад
The final boss of skullgirls, didn't suffer hitstun and honestly felt more like a platform game boss but without the benefit of platform game controls to fight her with
@evilded2
@evilded2 Год назад
Hyper armor is pretty goofy
@TheFirstAifos
@TheFirstAifos Год назад
Well, she can be stunlocked to death with Parasoul, so I think it’s more that she has her own rules rather than not suffering hitstun at all.
@jdhidalgo9445
@jdhidalgo9445 Год назад
There's also bosses that you cannot unlock and you're left with suffering. For example, in Tekken 7, there's a chance to play against Devil Kazumi, which is very hard to attack, but it's not available in the game after you beat her.
@Saibanaito
@Saibanaito Год назад
I wanna add Mortal Kombat as an example, more specifically MKX and MK11 (as it's the most recent titles I have played), where ultimate Shinnok and Kronika are not even playable at all (except in MKX on pc you could mess with the game files to play as Rain and ultimate Shinnok)
@omegadragoon1544
@omegadragoon1544 Год назад
Don't forget Shin King Lion (NGBC). He's unplayable unless you somehow mess with the game files
@cruelwraith2games926
@cruelwraith2games926 Год назад
Tekken 7 was not that hard I beat him
@XegaK
@XegaK Год назад
That Richard Branson joke is pure comedic gold
@Charredasperity
@Charredasperity Год назад
The infinite super meter thing is why Goddess Athena in SNK vs. Capcom Chaos is nearly impossible to beat without learning exploits, her mermaid tail super can just wipe your health bar instantly if every hit lands and she does it over and over.
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 Год назад
Yeah Goddess Athena should have been a better example of infinite meter boss to mention, even though Igniz is also hard. But that is balanced by the large amount of KOF mechanics, not to mention it being a team game with assists. You don't have all that stuff in SVC.
@anarky1765
@anarky1765 Год назад
What about when the boss is immune to special moves, or worse, your supers? Kronika basically having armor made her immune to any moves that involved knock back, knock down, or any kind of special animation, such as grab attacks. And not being able to finish her with my character’s Fatal Blow like I could with Shao Kahn and Shinnok pissed me off so much.
@sinteleon
@sinteleon Год назад
That is more of permanent super armour than ignoring super moves; making some supermoves pointless is just a side benefit.
@anarky1765
@anarky1765 Год назад
@@sinteleon Yeah, that’s what I meant
@sergentboucherie
@sergentboucherie Год назад
Getting a powerup after losing a round, making them even more resistant and dealing more damage, like Dio drinking Joseph's blood 6:11 oh yeah that fight was insane
@EducatedBrute
@EducatedBrute Год назад
Nothing like being disrespected by a sprite. If I wanted to be embarrassed I would play a Souls game.
@Zoso14892
@Zoso14892 Год назад
Heh, I was just thinking that these are some bull**** moves. At least in souls games, they make bosses tough but largely fair. There are a few nonsense fights but for the most part you can learn the bosses and dodge / counter everything. The day FromSoft resort to reading your input is the day I stop playing them!
@naiiin6949
@naiiin6949 Год назад
​@@Zoso14892 well, you should have stopped playing in 2016 (?) then lol, cause champion gundyr in ds3 reacts to you trying to heal. There are a lot more examples of this in elden ring as well
@Zoso14892
@Zoso14892 Год назад
@naiiin6949 Reacting to what you are doing isn't really the same as the nonsense shown here, though. I never completed 3 but did beat him. While he was tough, he never felt unfair in any way. I've also completed Elden Ring and beating that spinny cow just after they nerfed the companion so badly that they were useless as a caster was the closest I got to quitting. I enjoyed every other boss in the game. Except for the final thing. That was a waste.
@ghostderazgriz
@ghostderazgriz Год назад
​​@@naiiin6949 It's been proven that the bosses aren't reading your inputs when heal punishing but instead a raycast system lets them react to animations when they see them activate. While it may look like input reading, it isn't, and the key difference is that bosses that input read can activate an attack before your animation plays as well as punish you for any button press at any time. Gundyr's heal punish only works if he's facing the player when the heal occurs, and he's not in the middle of an attack. Also the Fume Knight in Darksouls 2 did it first. If you want more info: Search Zullie The Witch Input reading
@Gakulon
@Gakulon Год назад
@@ghostderazgriz Yup, depending on the tolerances of that system it can be just as bullshit as genuine input reading, but I don't think it's that bad in From Software games. Hell, it's a decent tactic to abuse the attack that Sekiro's final boss does when you heal.
@JeedyJay
@JeedyJay Год назад
It's not always a boss, but the "MK Walker" is a notoriously difficult computer-controlled fighting game adversary, named for its prominence in old Mortal Kombat games. Not only does this specimen read your button inputs, but it fights safely and oppressively (the name comes from the fact that it just walks at you instead of jumping in or using advancing attacks, so that it can keep its defenses up and respond to anything you do).
@alinalee91
@alinalee91 Год назад
Oddly enough, a lot of SNK bosses have the same weakness: leg sweeps. The AI barely knows how to defend against just getting it's leg swept out from under it over and over again.
@xstarsystemsx
@xstarsystemsx Год назад
"A bowling shoe who got a job modeling for romance book covers" is such a brutal and accurate burn. 😂
@Sunprism
@Sunprism Год назад
The final boss in Skullgirls that's just...constantly levitating higher then you are tall
@AntiR2525
@AntiR2525 Год назад
Regarsing Galactus: MvC 3 has the advancing guard mechanic which allows you to spam guard your way out of the instant kill lazers. Of course, you need to guard it first however
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Год назад
yeah a lot of these cheap tricks... only exist because the AI can't actually win if it really fights fair. :/ It just can't work the same way as a real player. MvC2 bosses tried to fight fair... sort of. They're cheap only in that they have a different concept of fighting than playable characters, and would probably be completely impossible to control properly. Stage 1: some big robot thing. It hits hard... if it can land a single hit, since it's telegraphed all the way to Eastern Mongolia. Stage 2: green goo, now we get into what makes these guys weird.... their character models don't work like players. the green goo can melt into the floor. But... it's never completely untouchable, but figuring out how to affect it is.... difficult. A lot of the time it's not where a normal attack will even hit it, and only pops up to attack, then drops out of sight after attacking. Which is... about the worst it can do in the cheese department. like the golem it's attacks are all telegraphed. But with a somewhat shorter window. This one takes longest to kill because of the hiding, and... only then. Stage 3: Lava dog. this guy is when you first fight him seemingly the worst. He's seemingly all the way off screen most of the fight, and hits you with attacks you can't see coming as he's not even on screen doing them. Thing is... he has a MASSIVE weak point. The orb thingy that was the middle part of the golem is now floating above the stage... just high enough you need to jump to see it. It's part of the boss's hit box. you can just beat the ---- out of the orb instead of touching the actual boss. The tell for the random flame jets is.... he's not on screen, if you can't see him, he's prepping the flame jets. Worst though is.... the player can utterly destroy this boss by nailing it with a 3-man team hyper combo as soon as the match starts. Certain very carefully put together teams can actually own him in less than 1 second.
@MagmaMKII
@MagmaMKII Год назад
The thing with Galactus is, depending on where in the screen you are, you'll simply have no way of avoiding the attack, because he will hit you from three different angles.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Год назад
@@MagmaMKII Well, that game also has the annoyance of getting double-teamed by his heralds, and that can also put you in a situation where blocking is impossible. :/
@sinteleon
@sinteleon Год назад
Though Galactus does have a favourable mention of actually being playable as the op being himself.
@NGMonocrom
@NGMonocrom Год назад
So if we play as Mike.... We can never actually go Full Mike. 😖
@James-gj8rn
@James-gj8rn Год назад
The worst part about old school fighting games (Mortal Kombat II had it) is when it seems like the game in the code can determine what move your going to do and react to it without a second thought, it can pull moves that a player can't with their reaction time and it can do it way faster than you
@Shininji
@Shininji Год назад
That's exactly what input reading is...
@HisVirusness
@HisVirusness Год назад
The MK2 arcade game was designed to cheat.
@James-gj8rn
@James-gj8rn Год назад
@@HisVirusness that's insane to think about
@veghesther3204
@veghesther3204 Год назад
So was the console version so though the SNES/Genesis MK 2 had a EASY mode the AI still cheats in game and the last 3 battles of Arcade mode automatically had the game bump it from easy mode to HARD mode automatically.
@KaitouKaiju
@KaitouKaiju Год назад
Input reading was the standard because there was literally no other way back then
@LordBloodySoul
@LordBloodySoul Год назад
Omg. Unfair bosses can be such a pain, right? Like Lu Bu from the Dynasty Warriors Series, who's even a cheap fighter before hitting Chaos Mode. He's getting every buff the game has to offer, a horse that's incredibly tall and fast, and such fast Musou Charge, he can almost spam his Super with only seconds for you t get out of the way.
@ShiKageMaru
@ShiKageMaru Год назад
I knew what the last 2 entries were going to be right from the start. Back when I was a kid playing street fighter 2 on my SNES i experienced all of this. And it's not just Bison. Guile can do flash kicks and sonic booms instantly and on repeat, but they decided that players wouldn't be able to do that. Sometimes I found that if I purposefully lost round 2 really badly, the boss a.i. would have its difficulty turned down in round 3, making it much easier to win than struggling in round 2 and losing ultimately.
@JPGameStuffs
@JPGameStuffs Год назад
Y'know, it's a real testament for SNK to have multiple entries about final bosses.
@AdmiralKomodo
@AdmiralKomodo Год назад
It's been a while since any major fighting game did this but I remember some fighting games had short characters; characters so short your basic attacks just didn't hit them. I still remember fighting that a penguin in Bloody Roar (don't ask) and all my punches just wooshed right over its head
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 Год назад
Wasn't there a character in a (blegh) JoJo's fighting game who was a bird, and had a screwy hitbox because of that? I feel like they mentioned that in a previous video.
@ultralowspekken
@ultralowspekken Год назад
@@nicholasfarrell5981 not a boss and straight up banned from online play
@Houldey
@Houldey Год назад
Mortal Kombat 11 had some really bad disjointed hitboxes which is essentially what you were saying, also in dragonball fighterz up until late into season 2 (iirc) a sizeable number of attacks wouldn't connect with the small characters due to their low profile, GT Goku & Gotenks were the main offenders I think. So yeah, it still happens today lol.
@ultralowspekken
@ultralowspekken Год назад
@@Houldey nonono, not disjointed hitboxes. Straight up small characters with small hurtboxes that weren't implemented in a balanced way. Disjointed hitboxes are just hitboxes that are disjointed from the main body. Edit: read that again and figured out you just mean that MK11 has horrible hitboxes on characters lmao. MK has that one issue in any game period.
@talkinghoorse6936
@talkinghoorse6936 Год назад
I've got another one: only getting one chance to fight them, the most infamous example is Omega Rugal in KoF 2002 UM, if you lose, you can't try again until you complete arcade mode again.
@MagmaMKII
@MagmaMKII Год назад
Shin Bison in Alpha 3 and Goddess Athena and Red Arremer in SvC Chaos are also infamous for that.
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 Год назад
Bison from SFA3 is a much more famous example and from much earlier too
@lugismansion2400
@lugismansion2400 Год назад
I don’t know if this counts But in Super Smash Bros Ultimate, I think a trick Galeem and Darkhan does that is kinda dirty is sending out extra fighters to try to kill your character and after a minute or so of the fighters they create they will explode possibly dealing even more damage and possibly launching you to your doom
@unevennoble9363
@unevennoble9363 Год назад
Really? I kicked both of their asses first try.
@lugismansion2400
@lugismansion2400 Год назад
@@unevennoble9363 I never meant they was hard I was implying that them making minions that explode after a certain point is cheap
@Aozame
@Aozame Год назад
The final boss of the Samurai Shodown reboot starts the second round of battle by firing a giant laser at you the second the fight starts.
@daleketchup7434
@daleketchup7434 Год назад
Be aware, for every Genocide Cutter Rugal says, you can hear somebody in the distance shout “GODDAMMIT!”
@WolfRider2002
@WolfRider2002 Год назад
As far as I know this is something of a one off thing, but in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax the final boss, Hi-No Kagutsuchi doesn't have a health bar. That and it's kind of hard to tell what attacks are actually affecting him so you'll either beat him in seconds or get your ass handed to you
@enderhx
@enderhx Год назад
8:12 Love when Andy says "Buck Wild" 😆 Something about how he says it makes it sound so funny and cool all at once 😎
@rocklight86
@rocklight86 Год назад
Game Companies: Let's cheat to make boss battles unfair and difficult! Me with a Game Genie, Game Shark, Action Replay: Oh, ... I see you like to play dirty too!
@Krizalid3YE
@Krizalid3YE Год назад
I will make a correction here real quick: Even if when unlocked, being on the "power gauge rule to all", ALL BOSSES of NESTS ERA from KOF Still are OP as F. XD
@motbus3
@motbus3 Год назад
You get a bit more powerful version of pyscho crusher in sfz3 if you use Xmode instead of default Z
@ultralowspekken
@ultralowspekken Год назад
Boss M Bison is also unlockable in console ports. Once you beat the game, you hold a bunch of buttons before selecting M Bison. He gets something that looks like Xism but has a skull instead of the X on the meter
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior Год назад
IIRC Galactus' instant kill is very, very rare. However, both he and Unknown from Tekken Tag Tournament 2 have moves that "snapback" (force you to change your active character), forcing you to change to another fighter, and erasing all of that character's recoverable health. Unknown's also takes off about 90% of the health of the character snapped back, so if she does it twice, all that health is lost.
@metaloverlord99
@metaloverlord99 Год назад
Unknown's actually kinda bad with this, due to the fact that her snapback move is nowhere near as powerful if you're playing as her.
@Macrochenia
@Macrochenia Год назад
If your character had anything less than full health, her double snap was an instant kill.
@Azurada23rd
@Azurada23rd Год назад
Seth from Street Fighter IV just kinda derps around and does a few annoying but punishable moves, but once you get a round on him, he has you “Witness his limitless power” and goes nuts. He even teleports two or three times in a row after knocking you down to make you guess which way he’s going to attack you from.
@gavcrayton
@gavcrayton Год назад
This! Lol Seth was an absolute nightmare on the 2nd round
@ryanahr2267
@ryanahr2267 Год назад
Yup. The original Street Fighter IV was my first proper SF game. Before that I'd only played SFII with a friend on his Genesis back in the day and that was it. My fighting game experience otherwise was Tekken, Soul Calibur and MvC games. I had a hard enough adjusting to the heavier and more precise mechanics of SF IV as it was but I couldn't actually beat Seth that first time I got to him despite several tries. It made me so angry that I actually traded it in the day after I bought it. I came back to the series a year or two later with Ultra Street Fighter IV and spent a lot more time practicing before jumping into Arcade and the online modes. Helped a lot and now SF is one of my favorite franchises.
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 Год назад
Games from that generation aren't hard as the 90s games
@Azurada23rd
@Azurada23rd Год назад
@@carlosaugusto9821 neat.
@natsusatsujinki8342
@natsusatsujinki8342 Год назад
Hated this guy with a passion.
@akumuryuu
@akumuryuu Год назад
A final boss of Gears of Destiny had an odd mechanic that you could "NO U" to win. She started off somewhat weak, slightly harder than a normal fight. After you beat her, she fully heals and becomes immune to stun, and just a menace to deal with... but the biggest problem, it happens within the same round timer. So if you fight her normally, you'll most likely lose to a timer, because you took damage, while she recovered it. But you can just hit her a bunch and then chill in the safe distance until timer reaches 0. Then, she will lose by the same timer, never entering her awakened mode.
@eryvac0074
@eryvac0074 Год назад
How about when the boss has a mechanic that keeps them in check, like Nagoriyuki's blood rage meter in guilty gear strive, which causes him to lose half his health if he over extends, which the boss version just doesn't have to worry about
@DiMono
@DiMono Год назад
Vega from SF2 would do this thing where he climbs the fence in the background, becoming invulnerable, and then just hang out there until you let your guard down. Then he would do a big dive at you that was incredibly difficult to block without lots of practice. That temporary invulnerability has got to be a trend, right?
@EnforcerX71
@EnforcerX71 Год назад
The thing is, Vega/Balrog/Claw has an easy exploit, if you back him into a corner and jump kick towards him, he'll do his backflip dodge, leaving him vulnerable to a throw when he lands every time. Also with the move you mentioned, if he does his diving claw, with timing it can be countered with a Sho-Ryu-Ken or Tiger Uppercut, but yeah it's a pain to master.
@DiMono
@DiMono Год назад
@@EnforcerX71 Being counterable doesn't make it any less of a dick move though.
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 Год назад
Not many games used that kind of gimmick. Their cheapness is more straightforward.
@charliethemagpie523
@charliethemagpie523 Год назад
That chest-face-flame-breath wasn't even the worst thing about Jinpachi - it was the incredibly quick stomp attack that stuns you, putting you in a position where you can't even dodge whatever comes next. Which, yes, might well be the flame-breath. Deep sigh.
@MasterZebulin
@MasterZebulin Год назад
Jinpachi sounds like a real asshole, lol.
@randoguypassword5433
@randoguypassword5433 Год назад
This happened to me more than once. In fact he often beat me three times in a row with this strategy. Two perfects then one post continue victory, he also has a move that regains his health while taking yours too so thats fun.
@BiyikFrostDiaz
@BiyikFrostDiaz Год назад
Let's not forget he also uses a life siphoning unblockable that he also tends to use when said stun happens
@metaloverlord99
@metaloverlord99 Год назад
If it helps, I recently found out you can actually block Jinpachi's stomp if you crouch... though you do need to be able to predict it first.
@ultralowspekken
@ultralowspekken Год назад
You can "block" it with forward. Which is even more evil since holding forward will make you eat any followup attack if you didn't realize you dodged it.
@ArkaneStephanie
@ArkaneStephanie Год назад
I love Andys fighting game lists. I don't really play any but I like hearing about how weird or unfair they are
@BOABModels
@BOABModels Год назад
I knew that Jinpachi would be in this list - you have to do the stupid crab walk sidestep to avoid his laser attack.
@aaronmurrayvazquez
@aaronmurrayvazquez Год назад
so glad you mentioned Bison. That was basically like can i survive two of these pyscho things in 3 rounds fo fighting
@kamikage9420
@kamikage9420 Год назад
I feel like Outside Xbox has done like 5 of these "cheapest fighting game bosses" videos but there's so many examples that they could fill a dozen more lists with them.
@phitowns
@phitowns Год назад
Speaking of SNK boss syndrome white from fatal fury real bout makes you think that you won the match but then he throws a projectile and if you don't jump it, you instantly lose
@VonBlade
@VonBlade Год назад
Perhaps a future list needs Otoma=Raga from KOFXV. Infinite meter, regeneration, screen-filling nonsense, they've got all the SNK boss tricks. Or Seth in the 2nd round from USFIV. Or Annie (all rounds) from Skullgirls. Or Unlimited Rachel from Blazblue Calamity Trigger. But good luck with that last one. Now where is my GG I-No...
@andrewowens4421
@andrewowens4421 Год назад
Oh God, I-no. I have nightmares about her. One mistake and she just straight demolishes you.
@tvdinner1986
@tvdinner1986 Год назад
Apparently another thing Orochi does to win, is by trying to give the *player* a seizure with rapid flashing lights @ 2:15 :X
@joejackson3091
@joejackson3091 Год назад
"...after he's arrested for your murder." LOL
@azuredragoon2054
@azuredragoon2054 Год назад
Having permanent Hyper Armor is another pain in the butt. Hyper Armor is a state where your attacks can't be interrupted. Some moves can be empowered to have this in a few fighting games, but once the move is done you lose it. Shao Khan from Mortal Kombat 9 has permanent Hyper Armor meaning his attacks will hit you if they're started and you're in range. And since bosses tend to deal more damage while also taking less... Yeah, it's annoying.
@KaitouKaiju
@KaitouKaiju Год назад
I'd beat him by keeping distance and ducking under his hammer with Liu Kang
@whatwilliwatch3405
@whatwilliwatch3405 Год назад
1:37 "You look like a bowling shoe got a job modeling for romance novel covers" has to be one of the sickest burns I've ever had the pleasure of hearing. Too bad it only applies in this very specific situation. Also, "strongerst" (7:01), lol.
@TheWindii
@TheWindii Год назад
I'm honestly amazed every time how many of those lists Andy can squeeze out of that particular genre. Not complaining though, keep at it!
@AxelKonzern
@AxelKonzern Год назад
Feral Chaos from Dissidia 012 comes to mind, Tiny arena, takes up 2/3 of floor space, moves that can hit anywhere on stage regardless of positioning and with a summon that, in normal game play, gives a random effect. But in his repeated use, is rolling the dice with only benefical results to him.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Год назад
Neat, kinda fun analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@machomusprime50
@machomusprime50 Год назад
That Geese line was GOLD!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TheBlackSeraph
@TheBlackSeraph Год назад
A couple of extras for the inevitable commenter's edition: -bringing a sword to a fist fight (chief offender: Hyo Imawano from Rival Schools) -fighting two people at the same time (chief offender: Juli and Juni from SF Alpha 3) -having access to two supers when characters are normally restricted to one (chief offender: Gill from SF 3: Third Strike, although Akuma will always have multiple supers, so it's not as cheap)
@crimsonchaos7224
@crimsonchaos7224 Год назад
Another big one I've seen is not even being allowed to fight them in the first place unless you play REALLY well, such as Akuma in Street Fighter 2 and Giga Bowser in Super Smash Bros Melee.
@romanista9776
@romanista9776 Год назад
This is really well made with classifications. Appreciated. ✨
@NetProphet76
@NetProphet76 Год назад
Bushido Blade, where everyone fights with melee weapons, except that one guy with a gun.
@1003JustinLaw
@1003JustinLaw Год назад
The Taboo fight in Super Smash Bros Wii is just full of everything on this list, especially that annoying unblockable, undodgeable, uninterruptable full-screen insta-kill. And if I recall correctly he can do that whenever the hell he wants after he's been reduced to 50% HP, in one fight (pretty sure the one that made me rage quit and never play Subspace Emissary again) I had him do that on me three times in a row, literally, and just destroying all three of my fighters instantly. I'd honestly rather fight a Deviljho IRL than to do that fight again...
@hypernovaD
@hypernovaD Год назад
God.. the PTSD is real.. I have faced some of these especially the PsycoCrusher from hell.. although i played enough to tell when he will do it.. but the moment his super meter fills up.. i lose all composure until i successfully block it (which still takes quite a chunk) or die instantly from it due to some of the hits he gave me while charging his super.. Edit: oh and if you lose, there is no continue.. you get his ending... where he puts you in a machine and uses your energy to destroy the world..
@nicholasharvey1232
@nicholasharvey1232 Год назад
Not bosses but AI characters in general-- in Mortal Kombat games, they're able to pull off certain moves on a dime that would require a human player to input a long button sequence (or hold down a button for 5 seconds). It's especially egregious when they use these moves as counters. There are other instances in the MK series where rules that apply to humans don't apply to computer-controlled fighters, but this is for me the most notable example.
@kumaquatro2406
@kumaquatro2406 Год назад
Yay I love when you guys talk fighting games!! 😍
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 Год назад
0:26 Recharging health. Gill from Street Fighter 3 & Unlimited Hazama from Continuum Shift are in this category
@gangl1234
@gangl1234 Год назад
All I can hear in my head watching this video is Arin from Game Grumps screaming *"UNAVOIDABLE CHIN MOVE!!!!!"* X'D
@alaskanativemanitou9340
@alaskanativemanitou9340 Год назад
There are bosses who can't be beat by knocking down their health bar. For example: if I remember right, Death in Time Killers has no health; you can only win by decapitation. The boss of Eternal Champions did have health, but if you knock him down to 0, he just transforms into something stronger with full health. You have to hit him till he has less health than you, then try not to get hit as you run out the clock.
@budgetcoinhunter
@budgetcoinhunter Год назад
Death required a decapitation for the 2nd win, true, but at least he auto-stunned if you depleted his health so you could get the blow in (usually a character can only be stunned once per round). However, Death's main bullshit is in the fact he automatically teleports to the other side of you if he's in the corner. This isn't even a command. If you use cheats to control Death, just walking to the corner will do it. Eternal (and later, Dark) Champion though, dear god. No, there is no time limit. On the Genesis, you have to beat _5_ different forms in a row, on one health bar (you do get a small amount of health back after each form). You can lose two rounds, and only have to beat him like this once, but you do _not_ get a second try. Lose to the Eternal, and you get a bad ending. On the Sega CD, you fight the Eternal in an even longer match, with _9_ forms to defeat. After the first 5 forms, the match pauses, the old windows blow out, and four _new_ ones spawn in. On a high enough, difficulty, once you land the final hit, the game pauses again, and the introduction to a cinekill plays, but now you're fighting as the Eternal against the Dark Champion in _a second 9-form fight_ with no time limit.
@alaskanativemanitou9340
@alaskanativemanitou9340 Год назад
@@budgetcoinhunter It was so long ago. I probably never won Eternal Champions. I do remember getting good at Time Killers & eventually decapitating Death with every character.
@ForestFlame
@ForestFlame Год назад
Meta Ridley from Smash Brawl is definitely dirty. He has an ability where he can basically remove the stage underneath you for a second.
@ASoulphoenix
@ASoulphoenix Год назад
I'm surprised Andy didn't mention SF3 SI's Akuma in the power up segment, he starts as regular Akuma but switches to Shin Akuma upon losing the first round
@therealresetbutton
@therealresetbutton Год назад
If memory serves correctly, the only fighting game series that doesn't have these cheap ways to "make the game more challenging" was Bloody Roar. That series was amazing!
@mrsurprise2294
@mrsurprise2294 Год назад
Gaoh from samurai showdown had that mode where he would eat every attack so I had to stay away and jump to avoid his crazy chip plus had a grab that did tons, Zankorou in samurai showdown read outputs as well, king lion in kizuna encounter ridiculous counter move
@ronicstyle
@ronicstyle Год назад
Can I say that I'm just happy someone actually did this list. It's like no one wanted to bring up the nonstop bs snk games put us through.
@clockworkmonsters8590
@clockworkmonsters8590 Год назад
Andy: I can see why he's called Geese, cause he's foul (fowl) Me: Boo! XD
@CasualRemy
@CasualRemy Год назад
Another cheap thing I hate about fighting bosses is when they don't let you rematch (which is sorta fair if it's a secret bonus boss I guess).
@mappybc6097
@mappybc6097 Год назад
Better than Arcana Heart 3 Parace L'sia. Not only is she insanely difficult, but she actually takes pity on you by permanently lowering her hp bar each time you rematch her. Meaning you have *one* chance to beat her at full strength.
@Nose4a2
@Nose4a2 Год назад
What about invulnerability frames, immunity to hit stun, and immunity to ring outs?
@warrick1830
@warrick1830 Год назад
The fact that when Mai is defeated she cries out Andy Bogard’s name and it’s Andy narrating is so funny to me
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 Год назад
Pretty much everything about The General from Kaiser Knuckle (pretty sure that's the game). He's bugger-near impossible to beat without exploiting glitches, turning your arcade fighter into a Bethesda game.
@derrickhaggard
@derrickhaggard Год назад
I beat The General but yeah I had to use a exploiting glitch that kept him in a permanent state of Stun-Lock just to win after 20 to 28 losses to him
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 Год назад
He should have been included
@DrunkDudley
@DrunkDudley Год назад
Jinpachi had a even more annoying move the the chest fireball, his stomp witch would cancel any attack you did, even if you where MID AIR, and render you stunned, and it was unblockeble OFC. I don't know of a more busted boss move that that.
@nicknight1728
@nicknight1728 Год назад
Fun Fact: The name for bosses that you fight that are cheap to fight against but weak when you play them is called BUF-BUG. Which stands for "Boss You Fight, Boss You Get". I know what you're thinking "shouldn't it be BYF-BYG?". Well it was... for a very brief moment, until some stoner use lazy speak(not leet) & replaced the Y's with U's. It was gonna be corrected until someone noticed the genius in it. For you see the BUF fits perfectly with cheap bosses as they feel buffed & the BUG fits with bosses you play/use as they feel bugged as if the dev's didn't fixed it. So it was settled & the rest was history. I call any raid pokemon i captured BUFBUG if their stats are OP & bullsh!t to fight but crap to use. I've been doing this since Gen 8. But this ultimately applies to fighting games primarily. Now you know.
@AJTheGeek
@AJTheGeek Год назад
6:45 I thought was going to be another Psycho Mantis moment... "Andy, you are the host of this... RU-vid video."
@blue_ranger
@blue_ranger Год назад
Dural from Virtua Fighter having all the other players' moves, you could be close to victory so Dural then utilises Wolf Hawkfield's grab-spin throw that takes off half a bar of energy, or worse throws you out of the ring for an instant loss.
@sadowolf
@sadowolf Год назад
Solid list, and SNK bosses are notorious for almost every single entry haha. The Bison example for actually being weak is the right character, but wrong example. The reason you can't do the screen-filling Psycho Crusher is because it belongs to Shin Bison, who is a different version of the character. When you play as Bison in the game you're just playing the normal version that has the weaker Psycho Crusher, but you can actually unlock Shin Bison and do the screen-filling one in some versions of the game. Why Bison does belong on this list is because the CPU version does a lot of things you just can't do like ignoring charging for his moves, and when you use him you realize how much having to charge nerfs him. The CPU is so effective because he's always on the move, and when you're playing him it's impossible to move like that and also be able to use his specials. SNK bosses are also notorious for the initial "weak" versions of bosses that turn around and beat the crap out of you in the 2nd round haha.
@flamemdq
@flamemdq Год назад
Thanks for everytime fill w/some Fighting game content
@LordNifty
@LordNifty Год назад
Two more that come to mind: 1. Projectiles that cannot be reflected and overwhelm your projectiles. 2. Grabs that have a ludicrous range all around the boss, making strikes impossible for the most part. See Geese Howard from the original Fatal Fury for both examples.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Год назад
1 is kinda in the same vein as what Andy said about unblockable attacks. 2: the grabs are another dumb one. especially when it's an attack that does MASSIVE damage.
@JAnne_Bonne
@JAnne_Bonne Год назад
Parace L’sia of Arcana Heart fame: existing. From fast projectile normals (some of which are lows and overheads), to a nearly unstoppable healing super, to absurd meter gain and combos; the only reason you have a chance is her abysmal health (barely helpful) and unlimited continues in Score Attack (with each continue taking a portion of her starting health… which with everything else in her lack of pockets is a very small concession in the long run)
@NeonKnightOA
@NeonKnightOA Год назад
Well... There's a reason the term "SNK Boss Syndrome" exists. Many reasons, in fact.
@gruggerduggerhoose
@gruggerduggerhoose Год назад
“You look like a bowling shoe got a job modelling for romance novel covers!” Put it on a shirt Farrant! Might need to be a big shirt or teeny tiny font but i need this dammit
@ledumpsterfire6474
@ledumpsterfire6474 Год назад
You guys should do this for RPG bosses too. There's quite a selection. The final boss of Legend of the Dragoon comes to mind. He's essentially four entire boss battles in one, his basic attacks do mega damage, at least half of them inflict status effects, several affect your entire party, some incapacitate a character for several turns before usually outright killing them unless their health was at max, and several are unavoidable instant death no matter what you do.
@chimuoma390
@chimuoma390 9 месяцев назад
Chronomon DM Comes To Mind!If He Wants To,He Can Just Fire The Corona To Burn Your Whole Party Alive 3 Turns In A Row,With No Recharge Turn,Unlike Pokemon's Hyper Beam!
@TheFirstAifos
@TheFirstAifos Год назад
I love Skullgirls to death, but absolutely hate the boss version of Marie. Unlike a regular fight, Marie is completely immune to being combo’d, as she just floats there ominously, taking your attacks without so much as flinching, while peppering you with more projectiles that you can count. Well, you probably could count them, but you’ll be too busy being impaled, shot, and smacked in the face the whole time. Though, on the bright side, I can say “boss version of Marie” now, which is nice. Hopefully the coming soon player version of Marie isn’t as annoying!
@dave9020
@dave9020 Год назад
You CAN get Boss M. Bison as an unlockable character, but it's only in certain versions of Street Fighter Alpha 3(if I remember correctly, the GBA and PSP versions had him unlocked, not sure about the other home ports)
@Gang3rs
@Gang3rs Год назад
Not sure she counts as a boss since she is in Time attack mode but Parace L sia from Arcana hearts 3, girl is a nightmare and she was the first to teach me how cheap a FG boss can be, i learn about input reading from her. she did that among all the other cheap perks (high HP, a broken teleport that has next to no startup and recovery, got meter for days such like that). it was so damn bad that after losing to her a few times the game will help you by making her have less base HP on all the following fights, but that still wont help much because that just makes her more aggresive than ever.
@reishiki
@reishiki Год назад
I'm not sure I remembered right, but I think Gaoh from Samurai Shodown V will turns invincible for quite a while after he takes some damage.
@Brasc
@Brasc Год назад
Bosses with many forms or minions - such as the Eternal Champion and Dark Champion from the Eternal Champions series, or Kronika from Mortal Kombat 11 - that will suddenly regenerate their health all over again _and_ give them an entirely different fighting style to grapple with.
@sinteleon
@sinteleon Год назад
Kronika is worse for having permanent super armour, meaning practically no combos work.
@itsGeorgeAgain
@itsGeorgeAgain Год назад
That friggin Tekken 5 battle. when i beat the boss i fist bump the air so hard my back hurt. i just jumped up, sort of doing an upper cut...
@latexu9589
@latexu9589 Год назад
8:03 It's basically like the "Rubber band AI", which we usually see in racing games.
@oler777
@oler777 Год назад
Where is Darth Sion from kotor 2? He won’t die Without emotional trauma
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc 11 месяцев назад
3:16 THATS SOOOOO COOL!!!!! This new st is off the charts, they really wanted to do their best game ever
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Год назад
I feel seen that Jinpachi was in this video. Thank you...and screw that guy 😂. I always spent half the battle strafing in the side until I could get close enough to attack, and even then, he could close or widen the distance, making things a massive pain.
@theelectricgamer9889
@theelectricgamer9889 Год назад
Can you do a video titled 7 times your best friend or friend was a boss or the final boss? Eight suggestions for this list is Riku from Kingdom Hearts, Pixy from Ace Combat 0 The Belkan War, any Undertale character, Gunther from Fire Emblem Fates Revelation, Weatly from portal 2, Faize from Star Ocean: The Last Hope, Volo from Pokémon Legends Arceus, and Edelgard,Dimitri, and/or Claude (depending on the route you choice) from Fire Emblem Three Houses.
@Lastjustice
@Lastjustice Год назад
In the dreamcast version of Street Fighter Alpha 3, M Bison has infinite specials in World Tour mode. It makes beating him extremely difficult as he can just span super psycho crushers at will if he feels like it. World Tour mode was alot of fun, but this was not a fair or fun way to end it.
@Jonathon_Hennessey
@Jonathon_Hennessey Год назад
A fighting game series that I enjoyed playing is Darkstalkers I thought that most of the game's roster were supernatural creatures interesting.
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