Question I'm at this part in ac odyssey I like kyra but I respect Thaletas what happens if I keep it in my pants and don't romance anyone do both of them live
I dont think so. Gutting them all and then hiring random Polemarchs from fortresses and nation leaders is far stronger. The only bonus is if you are boarding a lot that youll get Deimos with his insane hero powers just demolishing enemies when you board the ship.
@@littlejeka Idk why but as soonas I saw the priest he attacked me. So I didn't have a choice sadly. If I've seen the cutscene perhaps I would have thought otherwise...
I never forget the quote of this one guy in a side quest. "You killed his real mother and slept with his father? How could you?" Thats AC Odyssey for you
Prashanth Ganasan Well, yes it follows history but not very accurately. I just am pissed they wasted a good character like Brasidas. They could’ve done so much more with him. I would of cared less if they at least let you have some dialogue with him while he’s dying but, yeah lol. Nothing in that scene felt right either. He was introduced as your friend and kassasndra and alexios said nothing after he died like that, there was no emotion at all, except mine being angry lol
Prashanth Ganasan this game had so much potential, it’s a great game don’t get me wrong but it could be a lot better. It’s got an amazing RPG system I’ll say that much.
The saddest death in the game to me is Brasidas. Sure Phoebe was your biggest fan and friend, but Brasidas was just too cool to die. He died in battle as a spartan like he was supposed to, but somehow that makes it sad for me.
@@scottxiao4089 -- I thought the final battle in-game for him takes place at Pylos-Sphacteria. I'm no expert on Brasidas, but I always thought he died a few years later in battle around the Chalcidices [Way up North]
@@czdaniel1 I see the confusion here. [Spoiler Alert!] Battle at Pylos-Sphacteria (as the battleground of Messenia in-game) is just the first encounter of Brasidas and Deimos. In this battle, Brasidas was defeated but not killed. You and Deimos both passed out in the battle and after waking up you found yourself in prison, where Cleon would show himself as a cultist. Socrates broke you out and gave you missions to destroy Cleon's reputation. After those missions, you would receive a letter from Brasidas. You met Brasidas(recovered from the last battle) at Amphipolis/battleground of Makedonia(roughly Chalcidice nowadays) and soon joined him in a very sudden attack on the Athenian army led by Cleon. Brasidas got killed by Deimos, Cleon shot Deimos on the back and you killed Cleon.
yeaa, threeway doesn't happen. There IS a way for both Kyra and Thaletas to die at the end, but the closest you get to sleeping with both is telling Thaletas "I want both you and Kyra"
@@Mark-bl6pq Yea if you choose to kill the wolf then stentor will confront you and will attack you. Thankfully it happens next to a cliff and if you have the amazing sparten kick ability then there is only one way this should go.
if you kill stentor you wont be able to save deimos at the end, either both your mother and deimos die or only deimos depending on what you pick. Only way to save deimos is by sparing nikolaos and telling him to be a good father to stentor aswell as being nice to him so he would interfere between you and stentor and stop it. You also have to promise your mother that you will save deimos and always be nice to deimos aswell as make him/her doubt kleon while in prison.(dont forget to try saving deimos from the burning tree. And in prison choose the options where you explain to demos that you didnt throw him/her off the cliff but tried to save him/her instead. Thats the only way to have an ending with everyone alive. And as a bonus you will get the step brother,deimos,nikolaos, and myrrine as lieutenants for your ship
@@ryanrassi8943 That's not true. I killed The Wolf and I was still able to save Deimos. You just need to make sure that you pick the right options. The only thing you can't do is save Stentor if you kill Nikolaos. I was able to finish the game with both Deimos and Myrrine both alive.
Number 4 wasn't a difficult choice at all. The moment it happened I was "BABY!". It wasn't until later I realised that I could have gone after the cultist.
I know this is off topic from your Comment, but I was wondering if I'm still able to kill all the cultists of cosmos if though I chose Anthousa's path of killing the Monger.
Brasidas was doomed by history, though his fate in the game differs from real life. IRL, he was mortally wounded but lived long enough to see the battle won.
For me the hardest decision was on the quest, making friends, I know that telling the little girl that her friends weren't real was the right to do in the long run but I couldn't break her heart after all she's been through. Plus I definitely wanted that goo-werry
@@miormuhamadhafiz3862 yup. If you tell her the truth she will be upset at first, but then if you go back she will have friends and be happy playing with them. If you lie to her to make her happy, then the next time you return she will be crying because her clay "friends" washed away in the rain.
I just wanted my Kassandra to end up with Brasidas. From the first time he appeared I hoped it would be possible. But noooo, that's why we don't have nice things.
They should create an entire Brasidas DLC campaign-expansion to add in-game. Also, that Corinth cave nonsense is BS out of character for Brasidas. If @real Herodotus is remembered for writing just one line about Spartans, it's his description of the Spartans sent to Thermopylae: *They are free, but not entirely free for they serve but one master, and that master is LAW.*
It's a blessing and a curse to be familiar with this period in history, knowing the outcomes of the characters who were real historical figures. Immediately when the quest sent me to meet Brasidas in Amphipolis...I knew the dude wouldn't be coming back.
The two we couldn't save...."Bro"sidas and Testikles. I kind of wish saving Nikolaos had more of an impact than just intervening with Stentor, it would have been nice if at the end on the mountain if Nikolaos came up to Deimos and said it was his fault or something. The ship dialogue with them as your Lieutenants is definitely one of my favorite things.
@@snowmean1 Aye, her too. In the graveyard, Sokrates said I treated her as an adult. Sort of made me happy in a weird way. Sad, yeah, but happy knowing Kassandra (or Alexios) respected her as such.
No one going to mention "Making Friends" ? Do I tell the truth to poor lonely orphan girl or do I confort her in her delusion ? The only quest that made me reload an earlier save (that and Barnabas' nephew quest)
Actually, if you tell her the truth, she will have real friends when you visit her later. I know this because Alexios said "I should check on her later." after the quest ends.
@@madd3758 Really? I reloaded my game when I got that mission like Thomas did lol Couldn't leave thinking I was breaking her heart ahaha Wish I knew that. Probably when I return she's making tea with her clay friends...sigh...
Getting Myrrine, Nicolaus, Alexios, and Stentor as a reward for the good ending, and having them work as lieutenants on the Adrestia, is fun for the banter at the beginning.
Bruh-sidas was a true bro and I would marry him no matter what. He deserved a better death, hell even more mention of him instead of the way they brushed it off.
Nah, this is Assassins Creed, not Game of Thrones, giving you the option to romance Brasidas and then kill him off later in the game would have been even more heartbreaking then it already is.
I actually got really upset when Brasidas died, even though I knew he was going to die at Amphipolis historically. I always sided with him, on the Monger and Lagos. I was screaming when Deimos and Brasidas were duelling, and I was hoping my Kassandra would run in and save him. But alas, she did not. He was the best character in the entire game. Brasidas should’ve been romanceable and it should’ve been possible to save him. If you romanced and saved him, you should marry him at the end of the game. That would’ve been the best ending.
@DeusVault Hang on let me do a Sockrates: But isn't the fact that you felt deep emotion the best ending? What's better: a sad Greek tragedy or an ending where some minor characters perished who the audience barely miss at all?
I killed every cultist except deimos and managed to get the ending where my whole family lived (step dad and brother, mom and sister) I never did that love triangle quest but my favorite love related quest was the one where you meet this woman training on an island for a 100 person battle royale. So you help train with her and get to know her *wink* and when it comes to do the battle, you and her become the last contenders. And if you convince her to help you kill the game promoter you can get her to join your crew and have a legendary ship lieutenant
I got the family all together with my own decisions after that I searched on YT for another endings. The plague decision was hard but when I returned to the khefalonia and saw my mistake, well that was even harder.
The cult stole Myrrhine's baby & then made it feel pain for years to forge him/her into a weapon. It's not surprising he's a bit messed up & still aligned with his kidnap family - the cult. We can't blame him
Saved Deimos, Mother lived, Step-Bro became a Mercenary because he was ashamed of losing to me. Step-Father killed because I wasn't about to forgive being thrown off a cliff!
yea, i always wanted to save deimos. then he killed brasidas and for the first time i doubted. saved him for myrrine in the end. but cant stand that guy anymore
@@PhilipTosh Same here. You can recruit Step-Bro to serve on your ship. It's a bit funny... after everything you went through... you beat him up again and hire him nonchalantly :)
I read the book before playing the game. When I played the game I had my mind set that Deimos was beyond redemption. I managed to end up with everyone except Deimos at the table. And then I found out that Deimos could have been saved. Then I felt an emptiness in my soul. I cannot remember the last time I felt like that for a game. If you want to save Deimos, make sure that you can make her/him say to Kleon that he/she is not his puppet when you will be imprisoned. If after your dialogue with Deimos he/she says that to Kleon, do not fight Deimos later on. If Deimos does not says that, you will have to fight. Otherwise you will let Myrrine hug Deimos and then Deimos will take advantage and kill her.
I’m around the bit you try to discourage kleon in athens and my previous interaction with Deimos was along the lines of, your not a puppet, we didn’t abandon you, Mater searched for you and the cult stole you, I’ve also killed around 26 cult members, any advice for future would be greatly appreciated.
@@SpaghettiEnthusiastNegan, also when you interact with Deimos you need to choose the answers that are not passive-aggressive, you need to choose the chill ones.
I couldn't believe they killed Phoebe, but Brasidas dying shocked me even more. And the way he went out...! DAMN! But I got the happy ending. Everyone lives, and is back together as a family again.
If you use paralysing arrows on stentor during the fight in boetia, and then walk away when his HP bar is empty, he becomes a mercenary that you can recruit as a lieutenant for your ship
BaaBaa Natsu-San i had a break from the game for about 5 months and when i came back i didnt know Why kephallonia lokked so dead because it looked so Nice in the beging.
I got the happy ending. I saved the entire family. but everyone that can soome hisotry here. If you playd as alexios. you should legally be the other king of sparta. sparta is ruled by 2 kings from different dinasties. and alexios is son of myrinne that is the child to Leonidas. he's the only male of that line wich means the second crown is his.
When I did my first playthrough as Kassandra, I let everyone live. Now, with my second playthrough as Alexios, I straight up murdered Nikolaos the second I could. I don't care what justifications he has; he let his own daughter get thrown off a cliff and then threw his own son off as well. As far as I'm concerned, his right to be called Alexios' father died that same day.
When you save Deimos, Nikolas and Mother after you finish the odyssey mission, You got all 3 as Lieutenants on your ship and Deimos is really powerful lieutenant.
@@electroflames you have to keep refusing to fight him throughout all the encounters in the game and keep convincing him the cult is using him, always refuse to fight him and in teh end you can convince him without having a fight and you have a big family dinner with everyone together
WAIIIT IN ARGOLIS there's a plague that can not be cured and you have to choose either the: Farmer:feeds half of argolis The sick girl Wealty woman: can take care orphans Pretty hard am I rite?
It's sad that u couldn't be with any of these romances like forever, the whole point of them was just to make the game longer and to have some "fun" while playing side quests
You actually get a small additional scene with Roxana at the end of the quest that involves Barnabas's nephew. If you recruited her to your ship and have her as a lieutenant that is. Felt that was a nice touch. Though that and Kyra quests made me really want a more indepth romance system.
@@Luthies I played as Kassandra and I wanted to romance only Thaletas which broke me cuz his lines seemed legit, like his relationship is gonna last longer or something but I think Ubisoft just didn't want to waste their time on that cuz they had an idea who is gonna be ur husband/wife from the very beginning
@@topshonuff yes you have an option to save the bebe and get the cultist later or kill the cultist, let the babe die, get legendary armor. I was in a hurry and wanted that armor asap. Lol
I don't know why but I kept getting the Dimos and mother dead ending even tho I did everything good but P.s who else killed the goat that had the cyclops eye in his/her ass after they killed cyclops randomly
I was randomly killing goats and everything (dogs included) since the start of the game... In origins was a headache to loot those things so i got the achievement without even knowing
you can get around having to kill hundreds of goats by just killing that exact one immediately. at least that worked for me. first thing i did was run after that thing to get that eye back. (maybe just an unlikely coincidence through drop chance, or well programmed) i thought the eye was super valuable and there is this guy in the harbor where you can supposedly buy a ship if you have enough money and you talk to him but you dont have enough so you have to do a quest and "get" the adrestia i thought with the eye i could maybe pay for it :D doesnt work tho :(
I don’t know how but I killed Stentor in battle and like hours later after I leveled up I was battling a mercenary and Stentor whom I killed came out of nowhere. I didn’t kill him but recruited him early in my ship. 😏
I was level 28 when I saved the baby, and the “death comes to us all” quest popped immediately on the map. So I just went and followed up with that quest. So you can hunt her down immediately if you choose to save the baby. (At least at the level I was at.)
I think it would be a much cooler twist if the Cult of Kosmos were actually a pre curser to the Assassins, not the Templars, because they are supposed to represent chaos, not order. And your character even stated that he tried to kill chaos (kosmos) to establish order only to have that back fire on him and have an even worse threat emerge (templar). Anyways. that is just my thoughts. But on a serious note, I still find it sad that people are quick to demonize the templars through various forms of fiction and media. On the whole, they don't really deserve it.
Well, both Assassins and Templars are bad anyway. As Alexios/Kassandra said when he/she meets the modern time MC. Order and chaos has to be exist in balance in order to get the best result.
Nah, it happens the Cult of Kosmos was actually founded with the objective of bring order, but the members get obsessed with power and bring more chaos than order. Because of that they are the precursors of the templars (the fundamental objective of bring order).
@@vitornogara8619 Yeah... Ghost was clear that she didn't want democracy but one leader with one vision instead, who would rule above everyone else - ergo, without freedom. Its typical templar modus operandi as far i know.
My character ended up with a very hungry sexual old woman all she needed was a deer's tong and a Bears's tooth for a tonic. I thought that was the end of it but the husband denies his wife and i somehow got the option to sleep with the elderly woman. I got a laugh out of it though as the quest ended the husband pays you for the quest.
I’m normally very willing to sacrifice innocent bystanders (renegade Shepherd style) in games, but I -did- in fact save the baby. Though I admit A big part of that was because I was sure I’d be running into High Priestess Baby-Burner in the near future - after all she still had a spear upgrade piece and evidence fragment to cough up.
Honestly, in my first time playing it I had short moment to decide and I didn't know know if I was going to see her again so my thought process was "I don't know this kid screw that I'm going after this psycho!" I just saw red and went for her.
alphablood119 yeah idrk how, but nikaloas is alive and I killed stentor. I don’t remember what I said the second time I confronted Nik, but he never came to stop me kill stentor.
Brasidas was sad too, but he was a warrior and died in battle. Phoibe was just an innocent kid who looked up to Kassandra:( basically her surrogate little sister
I got the happy ending without stentor, he came after me as a mercenary so i thought he was beyond saving at that point, though now that i think about it i should have just recruited him but oh well. Still, brasidas man, i loved that guy
I think someone told me he was just a 3/3 when you recruit him. The only value given to Stentor is for Roll-Players who want to deliver a complete family for everyone at the table
I found there to be practically no choice. Gear _choice_ is really a function of Min/Max outputs. The game's narrative lies to you, and practically tells you at the beginning that it can't be trusted...even more, _that nobody in the game can be trusted_ What the player does overwhelmingly either has no consequence, or it has a game-breaking consequence _like if you seize the fort in the lake before the Help-Stentor mission, you can't complete the kill four Theban champions part._ *All of your actual in-game action seems meaningless:* the game doesn't care if your character saved an old lady and prevented her from being kidnapped, sold into slavery, or eaten by a bear. If you choose to fight alongside a spartan garrison to save them from wolves, the game doesn't see it. In fact those Spartans you chose to fight beside are likely to turn and attack you for your help. Same thing with coming to the aid of any side to help fight at sea. There is no meaningful choice outside of dialogue boxes, which overwhelmingly don't appear during playthrough to have any meaningfully connected consequence either. For 99.9% the conversation goes the same regardless of _choice_ and the .1% of dialogue options that can change anything appears on first play to be both arbitrarily selected and meaninglessly connected with the evidence presented to the player at the moment the _choice_ is given. This problem with meaninglessness is compounded by the fact that the game tells players that characters in game will lie to you, and often what the characters says is the only evidence the player has to go on. This adds to the seeming problem of randomly or arbitrarily selected-to-matter dialogue _options_ as the game's design intentionally places the player in a "Princess Bride's Poison Cup" dilemma too. The game presents you with a _choice_ but the information presented to the player to decide cannot be reliable and therefore the choice is by design an UN-informed one. For all the love that clearly went into the game, it is brought down by some rather basic game-design decisions
@@czdaniel1 Chill up man, it's the first time they try that, I think they are just testing the feature to see the reactions. It could become more interesting next time. It's not KotOR. =D
@@dragonite773 Yeah but if you don't kill her then she'll make every aracher hate you and if you cross them you're either dead or close to dead because OP af
I got the neutral ending, Nikolaos and Stentor lived but Myrrine and Kassandra died. However, I tried to convince Deimos the whole time but it was useless and I had to kill Deimos. I'm guessing that the death of Phoibe and Brasidas is not avoidable :T
To me that ending is not neutral at all. So Kassandra stabbed Myrrine in your game? And then you killed Kassandra? Sounds chaotic and far from neutral lmao
For me the Monger decision had the most impact. Because if you kill the Monger in public, you can't save Lagos even if you side with Brasidas that mission, then you don't have the proof for the Spartan king cultist, AND Brasidas will be angry with you in the last mission with him
I'm still sad about Brasidas, after the disaster that was the Thaletas quest ( he was such a good fit for the main character I can't believe he tells them he loves them and then ends up with Kyra either way ) I thought he would've been the one to make up for it. He definitely should've been a romance option and there should've been an option for him to survive.
I lost kephallonia at the plague and had the family reunion without Deimos.. saved the baby, publicly killed the monger and had to kill Lagos, had to kill the spartan king on a full bounty.. and spent an evening with Kyra alone(best romance option).. didn’t know about the three way till I saw this video
Ac Odyssey might not be realistic (spear tip wielding Demi god) but the thing they got right is the Greek Ethos and Logos and Pathos. You must rely on these three paramount points of Greek philosophy to determine the results in the game. Ethos is ethics, Logos logic, pathos is feelings.
Glad to be the one who hit the 1000 like mark. Also i got the best ending. You get your family as lieutenants which is pretty cool. Probably one of the best Assassins creed games so far.
Killed Kira father before showing her the doll. Now the quest is hanging as a dead weight: she is constantly at the altar, where the hunting quest begins and says only "I will tell him when the time is right." :(
Lucky I played enough of the game to wear none of this is a spoiler. The things I didn't know about the ending, I guessed. But ultimately this video help me decide which king I'm supposed to accuse. along with giving me some assurances that I made the right decisions going throughout the game. Thanks for the video it was helpful, funny and fun.
I did everything perfectly first time playing. I have all four family members on my ship. The plague didn’t spread. The only thing though is Phoebe. I don’t know if there is a way to save her or not if so then I messed that up. 😢😢😢
It took a long time but i fought and freed demios/kassandra from the cult spared nikolaus as there is no honor in revenge and the whole family was to gether. (Btw the family sences were really heart warming in case you needed a reason.
Clue 1: These cultists are the secret leaders of the entire cult Clue 2: This cultists are thought to be dumb Clue 3: They are actually highly intelligent Clue 4: Sometimes when you are in a fight in town these cultists will get aggressive & start fighting you as part of their cunning plan Clue 5: These cultists taste delicious Clue 6: These cultists lay eggs
