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The ABANDONED 1970's "Dune" - An ABSURD 14-hour film 

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Director Jodororsky's film was ABANDONED in the 1970s but is credited with inspiring sci-fi epics from Alien to Star Wars. Is that true? Or is it a good thing that Jordorowsky's Dune never saw the light of day?
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0:00 The movie that changed sci-fi?
0:29 Who is Alejandro Jodorowsky and why is he into drugs?
1:18 Jodorowsky spiritual connection to Dune
2:07 Jodorowsky has a "fun" relationship with the truth
2:43 Jodorowsky and Fran Herbert's connection over exploitation
3:10 Jodorowsky did not intend to respect "Dune"
3:55 The Seven Samurai
4:26 The Artists and France
5:32 Pink Floyd
6:18 Pink Floyd's Time Machine
7:00 Salvador Dali and his dolphin toilet throne
9:36 The Script...12-20 hours? Which version?
10:58 The immense amount of artwork
11:56 Jodorowsky's DUNE ABANDONED
12:36 CONTENT WARNING SECTION
14:40 Lack of respect for the original material
15:09 Rights taken away from Jodorowsky and given to Ridley Scott
15:26 The DUNE artists on to bigger and better things
15:51 A lost manuscript found in the salt mines
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@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Would you like to have seen this Dune film made?
@JohnInTheShelter
@JohnInTheShelter 4 месяца назад
I'd like to see it, but it looks utterly ridiculous. He has a great imagination, but so many of his ideas are just silly. I prefer Holy Mountain and Sante Sangre to El Topo, but he's a long way from those days.
@DylanPank71
@DylanPank71 4 месяца назад
It would have been bad. It would have been Zardoz/Final Programme/Starcrash bad.
@Unus1Mundus
@Unus1Mundus 3 месяца назад
Yes, it would have been a classic.
@Ihavenoname711
@Ihavenoname711 3 месяца назад
No, as I will not be what we think it would be!
@hannibalburgers477
@hannibalburgers477 3 месяца назад
I just watched the documentary. It is basically an unimaginative persons imagination supported by actually talented people. It is absurdist for the sake of absurdist. He thinks he is "le-smart" and has a strong message, but never understood the ACTUALLY INTELLIGENT message of the book because HE NEVER READ IT. TO QUOTE HIMSELF "HE (r worded) FRANK HERBERT" why do you ask? To make his story "actually good", of course. T'ed his own son too.
@toedrag-release
@toedrag-release 3 месяца назад
As a dune fan...im super glad it never got made. It was a literal pipe dream. Sounded utter ridiculous, it wasnt "Dune" it was a director tripping balls on LSD in the 70s being inspired by dune to try to capture his hallucinations.
@jonrahproductions
@jonrahproductions 3 месяца назад
After watching the full length documentary about the film he would have made, we lost big and I really really wish it was made.
@johnmichinock752
@johnmichinock752 3 месяца назад
@@jonrahproductionsIncorrect. This wasn’t Dune. This was some pretentious douchebag thinking he’s better than everyone else, tripping balls on all kinds of drugs. Jodorowsky isn’t the talent, the artists were.
@user-gz1nv6nw3q
@user-gz1nv6nw3q 3 месяца назад
I think you're very boring. It would've been an interesting and surreal adaptation. An adaptation doesn't have to be 1:1, to be good. Have a look at Blade Runner, and the book it was originally based off. Very different, but still a great movie
@o-wolf
@o-wolf 3 месяца назад
As a cinema fan it would've been an interesting car crash and certainly a better prospect than what David lynch cooked up Would it be on any way faithful to dune? Who knows probably not, but it'd be a complete trip and spectacle and that's always worth your time even if from only a curiosity aspect
@a.t.c.3862
@a.t.c.3862 3 месяца назад
Well said. It would have nothing more than insufferable, pretentious kack - like the rest of his work.
@Ghost-27X
@Ghost-27X 3 месяца назад
Imagine this guy playing the Emperor instead of Christopher Walken🤯
@user-gz1nv6nw3q
@user-gz1nv6nw3q 3 месяца назад
He *barely* speaks English
@Ghost-27X
@Ghost-27X 3 месяца назад
@@user-gz1nv6nw3q Yea..🤯 but he's legitimately crazy😂
@kaneda7368
@kaneda7368 3 месяца назад
@@user-gz1nv6nw3q That doesn't matter lol. You give a guy who barely speaks english a script made by someone who does and you'll just have an accent to it. Which, in a story that takes place across the galaxy, an accent is not totally unimaginable.
@user-gz1nv6nw3q
@user-gz1nv6nw3q 3 месяца назад
@@kaneda7368 A heavy, heavy Chilean accent would definitely pull people out of the story. Im sorry to tell you.
@jsm.216
@jsm.216 3 месяца назад
​@@user-gz1nv6nw3q Christopher Walken already took me out of the film with his voice, one of the lesser casting choices of the villeneuve films
@endergade3183
@endergade3183 3 месяца назад
I watched the documentary on his Dune and at first I thought, ‘what a creative mind’. But the more I watched it, the more I was disturbed by his behaviour.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
That exactly was my process while making this video haha
@RoachDaDoggJr
@RoachDaDoggJr 2 месяца назад
weak
@clifb.3521
@clifb.3521 2 месяца назад
i agree, on the surface its a fascinating idea, the deeper you dig the more his "madness or passion" is less interesting
@mrcrapucinno
@mrcrapucinno 3 месяца назад
i’ve seen the documentary and read the studio book for Jodorowsky’s Dune and honestly, in my opinion, it would’ve been such a bad film; the ideas it incorporated worked well on its own but to have called it a “dune” movie would’ve been an affront
@bobsbigboy_
@bobsbigboy_ 3 месяца назад
Okay NPC
@mrcrapucinno
@mrcrapucinno 3 месяца назад
@@bobsbigboy_ 👍
@neo-filthyfrank1347
@neo-filthyfrank1347 3 месяца назад
all arguments against jodorowsky's dune are second hand justifications for being inherently dull and dim
@DanielLopez-ob9jz
@DanielLopez-ob9jz 2 месяца назад
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 No... Jodorowsky misunderstood Dune, he was not making the movie to make a Dune movie, he was making a movie to fuel his cool ideas, not the book's. While I believe it'd be a good movie, it just wouldn't be Dune and I'd rather it not be called that.
@xFuzzyxPicklesx
@xFuzzyxPicklesx 2 месяца назад
@@bobsbigboy_ same opinion copy and pasted. i wonder what youtube video / tweet they saw for that opinion
@darwincity
@darwincity 3 месяца назад
Michel Seydoux, whose career would then drift towards sport team management, being the great uncle of Lea Seydoux, who plays Lady Margot in Dune Part Two.
@greenman6141
@greenman6141 2 месяца назад
Nepotism lives !
@metal6948
@metal6948 4 месяца назад
Just saying, a 14-hour "movie" can be cut into a 14-episode streaming series
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Today for sure! Maybe not back in the 1970's. Kubrick had a similar issue with his "Napoleon" film
@shefalichow7917
@shefalichow7917 3 месяца назад
I would've been down with a day long showing, split in four with some breaks to get up and walk around.
@poppers7317
@poppers7317 3 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager there was also a 5 hour mini series for "Das Boot" in 1981 which expanded the movie.
@neo-filthyfrank1347
@neo-filthyfrank1347 3 месяца назад
cringe, that would've ruined it completely. It needs to be one, a single whole, to be watched in a single sitting, the mainstream be damned
@metal6948
@metal6948 3 месяца назад
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 Most sane people can't watch something 14 hours long no break.
@zukacs
@zukacs 4 месяца назад
There is a really cool full lenght documentary about this story, fun watch before the Dune2 comes out
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Yeah! Great documentary, though we do push back a bit on how they portray Jordorowsky and the impact the film actually had.
@huliniswhoiam
@huliniswhoiam 3 месяца назад
What's the name of the doc? And where can we watch it?
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
@@huliniswhoiam you can watch it on Amazon prime I think
@huliniswhoiam
@huliniswhoiam 3 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager and what's it called?
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
@@huliniswhoiam Jodorowsky's dune lol
@WTFisTingispingis
@WTFisTingispingis 3 месяца назад
It's pretty obvious that H.R. Giger's influence was blatant with the Dune movies we DID GET, at least with the Denis Villeneuve movie. Geidi Prime looks like a planet Giger would design.
@Dularr
@Dularr 18 дней назад
Funny they claim Geidi Prime was based on septic tanks.
@CC______
@CC______ 4 месяца назад
I don’t see how you can say it was solely the work of the artists. It was Jodorowsky’s vision that brought it all together.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
It's not that he didn't have a part to play, but the affecting part of this all seems to be around the artwork. Which he did well in getting talented artists, but my premise was the Dune film itself didn't inspire sci-fi it was the artists from this project that were extremely talented and went on to make movies in science fiction namely "Star Wars, Alien, The Terminator, Flash Gordon and Raiders of the Lost Ark" that they mention among others. I just find this a bit absurd and see it as a usual tactic of his throughout his career of adding importance to his projects, that while may have been great, were not these industry changing spiritual revelations that he makes them all out to be. That's all. Nothing against this version of Dune, I just think he over embellishes a lot and we showed that throughout the video.
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 3 месяца назад
Huff glue much?, Frank Herberts' work was poddys?
@gaiusflaminius4861
@gaiusflaminius4861 3 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager 1. "but my premise was the Dune film itself didn't inspire sci-fi it was the artists from this project that were extremely talented and..." - it was Jodorowsky who assembled these talents, and based on the revelations of these talents you cite yourself, he created a highly inspirational atmosphere that induced all kinds of creative ideas. You're treating this part mechanically, separating Jodorowsky from his team as if people are wooden figures endowed with certain qualities that show under any circumstances. They don't. I have experiensed that myself. The role of a spiritual figure, a mentor, a father, a sage, a maharishi and so on has been the perpetual topic throughout the perceived history of humankind. Your premise is shaky. 2. "I just find this a bit absurd and see it as a usual tactic of his throughout his career of adding importance to his projects" - It's not as much him supposedly adding importance to his projects as other people views of those. However, it has nothing to do with importance. It's about attitude, a subjective matter in itself. His brutally eccentric manner and obsession, sweeping away obstacles with little willingness to compromise, sent ripples in the water. I am neither for nor against that. I remain indifferent to one’s personality unless it leads to a prosecutable offense. Even in such instances, I prefer to distinguish between these two aspects. Why do you not? 3. Do I think Jodorowsky movie would flop or not? There's no way to know. Do I wish Jodorowsky made it? Absolutely.
@onstr
@onstr 2 месяца назад
Holy Mountain changed my perspective on what movies could be when I saw it as a kid. Seeing him interpret Dune would have really been... something. I think even as a "bad film" it would have at least been worth watching.
@NithinJune
@NithinJune 3 месяца назад
2:35 listening to him speak french with a spanish accent is throwing me off 😅
@willmfrank
@willmfrank 3 месяца назад
Frank Herbert: "Jodorowsky's script would have been ten hours or more..." George. R. R. Martin: "Umm..."
@Lxx00Jxx00
@Lxx00Jxx00 3 месяца назад
When considering who'd be the artist to the Final Fantasy franchise, Square originally wanted Möbius instead of Yoshitaka Amano. I never imagined how would that be until the 11:53 illustration on this video.
@DerekSaysTink
@DerekSaysTink Месяц назад
The Holy Mountain and every Jodo work changes you. Pure art.
@leeprew
@leeprew 4 месяца назад
Even if the film itself didn't get made the amount of creativity and other projects this helped spawn is justification enough for it almost being made.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
For sure! But I think the creativity belongs to the artists like H.R Giger, Dan O'bannon, Moebius, and others that actually went on to work on all of the sci-fi films it's credited in inspiring. A lot of the projects that it supposedly "inspired" are not really direct connections. Like with Star Wars, "George Lucas probably saw the Dune script." Is a usual line we've seen. So to me, it's more that the right creative talent got brought together at the right time and because of this project that failed, they now could go on together to make films like Alien or Blade Runner. You don't really see Jodorowsky follow.
@Aldo.flores
@Aldo.flores 3 месяца назад
This “absurd” movie it’s actúa the most important movie on history, because of all that could be and specially the team Jodorowsky reunited were responsible of all sci-fi (and other genders) movies from the 80’s, 90’s and 2000. Actually the storyboard its still used by the studios as example to make the ones for new productions.
@rameshdevasi6720
@rameshdevasi6720 4 месяца назад
spiritual wisdom of jodorowsky is beyond even the original dune, hope his official film remake of incal comic complete before he died. most hardworking creator ever, his book "The Spiritual Journey of Alejandro Jodorowsky" is my favorite
@rameshdevasi6720
@rameshdevasi6720 4 месяца назад
just found out that Alejandro Jodorowsky, 94, Working on A New Film!, look at the dedication.
@zelo3238
@zelo3238 3 месяца назад
ah yes, a movie that thousands of people would want to watch, but only 8 would actually end up watching.
@neo-filthyfrank1347
@neo-filthyfrank1347 3 месяца назад
that's why it would've been the best film ever made
@tivrobobo
@tivrobobo 3 месяца назад
I’m the one of those eight 😂
@chiwhiner
@chiwhiner 2 месяца назад
Kind of like that Terry Gilliam Don Quijote movie that finally saw the light of day. Far more people probably saw the documentary about it.
@spaceriot23
@spaceriot23 2 месяца назад
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 stop glazing bro
@user-ee6xt8gu9l
@user-ee6xt8gu9l 2 месяца назад
Jodorowsky's Dune, The Great Film that will never be.
@corpseweed
@corpseweed 3 месяца назад
No one: Jodorowsky: Work exceeds the artist and to some extent kills it because humanity, by receiving the impact of the Myth has a major need to erase the individual who received it and transmitted.
@ElRadioDJ913
@ElRadioDJ913 2 месяца назад
It would be great if it were translating into an animated miniseries of Jodorowsky's Dune.
@paulhunter6742
@paulhunter6742 2 месяца назад
Who in their right mind would sit through a 14 hours movie? The longest ever event l had seen was 8 hours stage production of Nicholas Nikoby at University of Kansas in 1980s. And that required two days since split into two parts.
@CNC-Time-Lapse
@CNC-Time-Lapse 4 месяца назад
Great video. Also, I love your random transition into the Squarespace ad. I feel that was is a plausible scenario. lol
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
I legit had no better ideas for it haha. Felt just as likely Pink Floyd did that as Jodorowsky talking to diving beings
@EVIL9000
@EVIL9000 3 месяца назад
It's pronounced fremen, not freemen
@GonadTheBarbarian666
@GonadTheBarbarian666 3 месяца назад
Rhymes with semen?
@gerardleveque3568
@gerardleveque3568 2 месяца назад
The teem of artistes that Jodorowski put together for Dune, is what made the success of Aliens!
@arcvideo
@arcvideo 3 месяца назад
He was ahead of time , predicting serials in the style of game of thrones
@rachel_rexxx
@rachel_rexxx 4 месяца назад
This was interesting, I vote for more lost Hollywood films
@hvitekristesdod
@hvitekristesdod 3 месяца назад
Denis managed to make it psychedelic without overdoing it IMO
@HeribertoEstolano
@HeribertoEstolano 4 месяца назад
I've known a lot of small country town artist that make terrible art and tough themselves great genius that the world wasn't ready to understand yet. And they all sounded exactly like Jodorowski on that Documentary.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Could be my cynicism, but yeah that kind of stuff immediately makes me think it's all bs and just for show. To me it's just a way to make your art look more self important than it really is. Which with Jodorowsky, from all of our research every story had to be this massive ordeal or some holy mission, which half of it you couldn't tell if it was truth, hyperbole, or just an act.
@AGamingEntity
@AGamingEntity 2 месяца назад
​@@FrameVoyagerdude you went into his career wrong, if you had discovered The Holy Mountain on its own you'd realise this guy's a genius
@anthonythorne8708
@anthonythorne8708 4 месяца назад
Whether or not Jodorowsky's film was faithful to the book or not, his planned film would have been of interest. His earlier works certainly were, and his subsequent graphic novels have been as well.
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 3 месяца назад
The precursor of all fools everywhere. To change a story is to tell a different story altogether. Twits like this should not be allowed to touch someone else's work.
@milton1448
@milton1448 3 месяца назад
Dune needs a 14 hour high budget series treatment. These move just leave too much content out
@antun88
@antun88 3 месяца назад
It's so sad how many people are applauding that this film didn't get made. I bet every Kubrick movie looked crazy on paper, especially 2001 space oddity. And the Shinning was completely unfaithful to the source material, yet it created a genre of horror.
@kg7219
@kg7219 3 месяца назад
how are u extolling the virtues of kubrick but u cant even spell the name of his movies correctly??? this would have been a disaster like the lynch version hahahah and jodorowsky was a hack and a freak
@antun88
@antun88 3 месяца назад
@@kg7219 You don't have to listen to me. Watch an interview with Dan O'Bannon and what he says about Jodorowsky. And Dan is a great artist, unlike you, so he gets it. You saying he's just a freak is really not understanding art and how it is created. It would be like saying Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd is just a freak. He made Pink Floyd and forever changed other band members minds, led them into this new realm of ideas and artistic beauty. Later he completely lost his mind and developed mental issues. I also think this movie would be a disaster, at least in the box office. Jodorowsky lacked discipline and technical ability to make such an ambitious project for the mainstream audience.
@ProfessorChocolateCake
@ProfessorChocolateCake 4 месяца назад
I hope you covered the band Magma scoring the music in the film.
@devomk
@devomk 4 месяца назад
I was thinking the same, just wanted to check the comments;)
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Meant too, but there were soooo many different elements to this one we didn't really stick around in the music part of it for very long. More just used that Pink Floyd story to show how each encounter was monumental in Jodorowksy's mind
@ProfessorChocolateCake
@ProfessorChocolateCake 4 месяца назад
​@@FrameVoyagerIf you play the opening of the 2019 album 'Zess' over the animatic of the intended opening sequence for the film which appears in the documentary, it matches up perfectly. Also the song 'Hhai' lyrically fits with the Spice Melange concept since it's about the discovery of eternal life and was coincidentally written around the same time pre-production of the film would have started.
@TheGoddon
@TheGoddon 4 месяца назад
But I am not at all sure about the ending of Jodrofsky’s Dune tho.
@Themagiciangr
@Themagiciangr 4 месяца назад
Is there any way to read the copy jodorowsky sell because i heard before that they were similar to fake script but i havent found any source
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Well they were and then he released one himself that was the same thing essentially. I have that somewhere in our notes but I had to use the waback machine to view it. There is a lot floating around out there though
@BigBossMan257
@BigBossMan257 3 месяца назад
woulve been cool if it was done not as Dune, but as its own thing
@troubadour723
@troubadour723 4 месяца назад
There are basically three types of sci-fi/fantasy: 1) Fandom -- utilitarian, reactionary, RPG-based, militaristic. 2) Grounded -- basically a gentrification of the genre. Made for critics and award committees. 3) Visionary, surreal, unfettered, psychedelic -- Jodorowsky, Metal Hurlant, lots of 70s sci-fi. Niche, sadly dormant, but with lots of terrain left unexplored before receding in the blockbuster era. A more open-minded public would embrace or at least support ideas like Jodorowsky's. But the general public has been successfully conditioned to embrace monetary-based spectacle over art. Exploratory artists are perpetually out of favor. It's hard to light a spark in a vacuum.
@newworldman2112
@newworldman2112 3 месяца назад
Crap is still crap even if it scratches that anti-middle class pretensious itch.
@johnernest5843
@johnernest5843 2 месяца назад
Have you considered that maybe some of that stuff from category might be a bit shit to a lot of people?
@writethepath8354
@writethepath8354 4 месяца назад
I'm a fan of William Hurt's SciFi channel Dune and Children of Dune
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
I need to check those out. Realized doing this project I'd never watched them before
@writethepath8354
@writethepath8354 4 месяца назад
@FrameVoyager that's too bad, you can search the birth* scene from Children of Dune, and even though that mini series clearly had a lower budget, that sequence captures a lot of threads coming to their climax
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Nice! Yeah, I got to see some of those scenes while researching for this one. Plan to go watch it here at some point!
@Sk4M_.RangeroftheNorth
@Sk4M_.RangeroftheNorth 4 месяца назад
So is this a documentary about the documentary about Jodorowsky's mental attempt at Dune in the 70's? Cool, ill settle in coz he had some ludacris but quite clever ideas. I love Dune so id have took a 14hr long movie.🤯
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
It's sort of side by side with it but we don't cover Jodorowsky with as rosy a lens towards the end as the documentary did. So we have similar info, even some clips from the doc , but a very different outlook on the whole thing
@IanZainea1990
@IanZainea1990 2 месяца назад
9:27 dali was insane. I don't like that guy.
@ryanvandalinda12345
@ryanvandalinda12345 4 месяца назад
Anyone know where one could read Jodorowsky's DUNE script online?
@theconcreteshamans
@theconcreteshamans 3 месяца назад
Cant wait to put all this information into AI and finally get to see the 14 hour movie
@huliniswhoiam
@huliniswhoiam 3 месяца назад
Are you going to pay the creator to use that's the whole argument with AI and why people are upset
@AGamingEntity
@AGamingEntity 2 месяца назад
It won't be his though it'll be what pretentious teenagers think his idea would have been
@payasita01
@payasita01 3 месяца назад
it could have been one of the movies of all time
@johnernest5843
@johnernest5843 2 месяца назад
"Oh hi Baron"
@Matthias129
@Matthias129 3 месяца назад
Saying you have to assault your wife to have a child but than being upset that a foreign country assaults* yours for resources is pretty contradictory. I'm sure there's more to the man, though it's a very rough first impression. *I'm using the dictionary definition of the word Jodororsky used here, that I can't use because of YT's well-intentioned, but messy, policies.
@hrr597
@hrr597 3 месяца назад
🤓🤓
@Matthias129
@Matthias129 3 месяца назад
​@@hrr597 Sorry I didn't make a tiktok for you to understand. Or would a crayon drawing be more your speed? I made sure to get you flavored ones. 😊
@amdi8966
@amdi8966 3 месяца назад
@@Matthias129just shut up, dork 😂
@DavidLeidy
@DavidLeidy 3 месяца назад
The events that followed Jodorowsky’s Dune project had nothing at all to do with Jodorowsky? It was his team he put together haha That’s the most ridiculous claim ever
@Calypso694
@Calypso694 2 месяца назад
I honestly really hope we get his dune someday. Yes yes we have his Jodoverse comics that are basically his Dune repurposed but it’s not “dune” ya know? It would have been a total trip sure but an insane fun one no doubt that I think fans are too hard on.
@swaslaukinonome
@swaslaukinonome 3 месяца назад
Slight disagreement: Dali was mostly an actor. Also a Fascist and a chauvinist.
@davehandelman2832
@davehandelman2832 4 месяца назад
The greatest movie never made. Someone needs to make an animated version of this word for word. Like NOW.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Like the spice DAO crypto bros? 😂😂😂
@electricforkshobbes4823
@electricforkshobbes4823 2 месяца назад
I thought he was onto something until that bride part, utter quack
@SuzanneYoungblood-lj3eb
@SuzanneYoungblood-lj3eb 4 месяца назад
Absurd!!!!!!!! 14 hours sounds like a good start, why not double that!
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
It's not the 14 hours that's absurd 😉
@SuzanneYoungblood-lj3eb
@SuzanneYoungblood-lj3eb 4 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager LoL
@Kaden10
@Kaden10 3 месяца назад
This movie would've been f***ing bonkers, Jodorowsky is a mad man but the best kind of mad.
@davida.rosales6025
@davida.rosales6025 Месяц назад
Absurd? Only a 14-hour movie would make it worth it.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager Месяц назад
It's not absurd because it's 14 hours
@sirfrancois8888
@sirfrancois8888 3 месяца назад
I'm a huge fan of Alejandro and my one wish is that someone gives him an unlimited budget for one last epic project to make a film version of incal.. how amazing would that be?
@IcarusLhooq-bc7uq
@IcarusLhooq-bc7uq 3 месяца назад
How many of the books did it cover and how much sid they get correct? They can be dnese in action and plots and metaphor and phislosphy. Joderowsky? Yeah the old sci one is so much better rtahn any other next to the original frank series of books. Dali helpe dmak eyhe sets though i thinj for that even older one that goes nuts way off story
@ThePatrikable
@ThePatrikable 2 месяца назад
Since the current two version 5 hour total mess is still uncrophendial for anyone new to the universe it couldve been a great idea.
@katabasis9999
@katabasis9999 2 месяца назад
Dali was a completely derranged and sick human.
@blankeon6613
@blankeon6613 3 месяца назад
The greatest Sci-Fi film never made.
@Ale-mv3gr
@Ale-mv3gr 3 месяца назад
I love Jodo so much.
@HoustonSoto
@HoustonSoto 3 месяца назад
As fascinating a film as it would have been, it would have tanked and no studio would ever support a big science fiction production again for decades. I don’t think Star Wars or Alien would have even happened.
@gawkthimm6030
@gawkthimm6030 3 месяца назад
IMO the best thing to come out of the failed 1970's Dune besides Alien is Jodororsky's Comics. the Meta Barons changed my perception on space opera scifi comics...
@Ssspaceform
@Ssspaceform 4 месяца назад
Why absurd? Isn’t something like LOTR a bit under that? And this would have been waaay better.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
For the runtime of LOTR or LOTR being absurd in of itself?
@ReneAlex
@ReneAlex 4 месяца назад
I don't know, but my bet is that a Dune movie directed or produced by this guy could easily be "The Room" of science fiction.
@Buf037
@Buf037 3 месяца назад
This man has clearly never seen holy mountain. You can call jodorowsky crazy all you like, he’s clearly very a very talented director if you’ve seen any of his work. Especially good at making things visually appealing, and with an amazing plot already written for him? I don’t see how it could be anywhere near the room.
@ReneAlex
@ReneAlex 3 месяца назад
@@Buf037 yeah the amazing plot in the book that he explicitly did not wanted to read... I mean, in LATAM there is this ilk, this stereotype of wise guy, con man, that is infamously inexplicably talented, mythical in their abilities but they never get their master pieces done, because some evil force, company, government, money man, family, tragedy or any other long list of excuses keep them to finish their "work" they live out of their mythology and usually have a cult following... I'm not saying that He is one of those... But he has that ring to it, he even have the sexual misconduct allegations and all. Idk, everyone is free to appreciate the work and ignore the man I suppose.
@Buf037
@Buf037 3 месяца назад
Having never read his script for dune im not sure what he meant when he said he was raping frank herbert. Was he going to majorly change the plot? or just make things visually interesting in a way that frank herbert definitely did not envision? I actually don't know, he said he loved the book so i would assume he wouldn't change too much about the plot. He may be one of those con men, but it doesn't change the fact that he made many great and influential films. That is my point, he is no tommy wiseau, you can criticize his character all you want, but his work is good.
@ReneAlex
@ReneAlex 3 месяца назад
@@Buf037Well, conveniently we will never know what that movie would be like, because Jodorowsky's Dune will never be; and that will make that non-existing movie a legend a myth, an infinitely potential achievement for him and his fans forever. Again, ppl are free to appreciate the work and ignore the man. At least The Room was made.
@johnernest5843
@johnernest5843 2 месяца назад
@@ReneAlex Lynch's Dune will always triumph over Jodorowsky's Dune because at least it got made
@igguilloda4383
@igguilloda4383 14 дней назад
just saying "chilean by birth" so casually comes off as rather dismissive of Jodorowski"s chileaness. As he demonstrated in his two most recent movies, being chilean was formative and is more than an accident of history for Jodorowski. but like many talented people from small countries, he went to seek his fortunes elsewhere.
@Ihavenoname711
@Ihavenoname711 3 месяца назад
RELEASE THE SCRIPT / STORY BOARD... it will make millions!!!!!
@JediKnight207
@JediKnight207 4 месяца назад
Original Dune is weird.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Very haha
@JediKnight207
@JediKnight207 4 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager I meant David Linch's version
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
@@JediKnight207 Well that's true as well haha. David Lynch had both hands tied behind his back trying to make that film.
@JediKnight207
@JediKnight207 4 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager What does it mean?
@vincemays7599
@vincemays7599 2 месяца назад
This man is a walking contradiction lmao. He wanted to evolve dune into his own vision but refused to rename it into his own project and vision. He’s a tripping plagiarist who can’t even plagiarize properly because, well, he’s tripping balls
@johnernest5843
@johnernest5843 2 месяца назад
It's the ego Bro assembled his own charismatic following by perverting the concept of the Dune story, while also living out Herbert's warning of not trusting these types of charismatic farts
@roc7880
@roc7880 3 месяца назад
I wish seen the movie even if unfinished.
@MrTVintro
@MrTVintro 4 месяца назад
9:00 Its not so much that Dali wanted to be paid well, it was that he wanted the ego boost of being the highest paid actor ever, hence the 100k for 1h compromise which technically achieved that.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Ah, nice insight into that. Which I mean is not surprising, feels like Jodorowsky met his ego match in Dali haha.
@HamguyBacon
@HamguyBacon 2 месяца назад
Dali was the worst part of the movie, they should have told him to f off, he wanted a stupid giraffe on the set. over rated garbage
@JasonJrake
@JasonJrake 3 месяца назад
This is like watching the documentary about J’s Dune without having to suffer through nearly as many narcissistic rantings of J. Thank you.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
😅😅😅 you're welcome
@sylnz97
@sylnz97 3 месяца назад
I'm glad we didn't get his Dune and instead got Alien out of all this, it's a win win situation
@hdgehog6
@hdgehog6 3 месяца назад
Jodorowsky's DUNE would have been a shit-show! He said it himself - that he didn't give a fuck about Herbert or the story.
@amdi8966
@amdi8966 3 месяца назад
That doesn’t mean it would’ve been bad. I mean, bookworms like y’all would’ve shit yourselves but nobody cares 🤷🏻‍♂️
@adrianr87
@adrianr87 4 месяца назад
It's pronounced Yodoroski. 😊
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
You know, I tried to do some digging into it and everyone pronounced his name different lol. I went with the one that sounded more Chilean to my English speaking self 😅
@adrianr87
@adrianr87 4 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager after I wrote it I realized you very likely spent plenty of time researching just the pronunciation lol
@thevis5465
@thevis5465 3 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager It is a polish name, not a chilean one.
@justanotheryoutubecomment9873
@justanotheryoutubecomment9873 Месяц назад
Seems like a vintage Zach Snyder.
@snakes3425
@snakes3425 25 дней назад
LSD is one hell of a drug
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 4 месяца назад
I wonder if they'll get to God Emperor of Dune
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
In the new ones? Sounds like he's only going one more book or movie after this next one
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 4 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager I think the director said that they want to do a movie on the Benne Gesserits.
@shreddurst5397
@shreddurst5397 3 месяца назад
Max is doing a Bene Gesserit show called Dune: Prophecy. Iirc Villeneuve said he would like to do a movie for Messiah but not go past that.
@nicolasdragas
@nicolasdragas 4 месяца назад
did you read The Seven Lives of Alejandro Jodorowsky for this?
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Parts of it. Watch like over 70 interviews with Jordorowsky over the years as well. Ended up re-writing the script several time the more research we did on him.
@nicolasdragas
@nicolasdragas 4 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager I have a lot of his books and have seen him you did a great research
@SrWho1234
@SrWho1234 Месяц назад
VIVA CHILE
@phantomfire8228
@phantomfire8228 4 месяца назад
3:30
@pajazosdiego
@pajazosdiego 4 месяца назад
Yeah, crazy. XD
@junyawannabe
@junyawannabe 3 месяца назад
you would kill to be one day in jodorowskys mind. don’t disrespect the man
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
I in fact would not like to EVER be in his mind. No thanks. No disrespect given above what he has publicly declared himself.
@theconcreteshamans
@theconcreteshamans 3 месяца назад
These kids today don't know how esteemed we held artists back then. We wanted weird and shocking. And controversial. It was something to aspire to.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
@@theconcreteshamans Good for you. Not someone worth apsiring to in this case. H.R. Giger? Yes “Moebius”? Yes Dan O'bannon? Sure But Jodorowsky isn't someone worth aspiring to be. His public comments and publicity stunts in the past and present to make his art appear more "important" are not worth emulating. If that's the "shocking" us kids just don't understand anymore, you guys can keep it.
@hrr597
@hrr597 3 месяца назад
​@@FrameVoyager 🤓🤓
@johnernest5843
@johnernest5843 2 месяца назад
Bro why is every Jodorowsky defender such a dicksucker? He selling you drugs from beyond the grave or something?
@user-hg5ih6rk6t
@user-hg5ih6rk6t Месяц назад
wtf Alejandro....
@oxideking3011
@oxideking3011 4 месяца назад
It doesn't mean anything, everyone likes to have more
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
What doesn't mean anything?
@1183newman
@1183newman 3 месяца назад
there was also a later abandoned script that Ridley Scott was going to direct (before lynch) in 1979 after Alien. Main thing people take from that script though is that alia is born of incest between paul and jessica.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
Yep! Weird ideation. Glad they made Alien haha
@opensourceradionics
@opensourceradionics 3 месяца назад
why do you hype a not-made movie so much?
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
Lmao, I didn't hype the movie up, jodorowsky hypes this movie up 😂 we're probably one of the few to question this film
@kamandi1362
@kamandi1362 3 месяца назад
Shame the three hour version wasn’t made. I’d have loved to have seen Giraud’, Foss’, and Giger’s designs brought to life with Pink Floyd’s music. I also wouldn’t have minded it if Jodorovsky hadn’t directed it. There’s definitely something of the dark about him. Note how he throws up certain gang signs in the photos in this video.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
I think studios wanted to make it in some sense, but from what it seems like I think they were all very wary of working with Jodorowsky. You can't really blame them
@empyrean-jamelgreaves8034
@empyrean-jamelgreaves8034 3 месяца назад
All I hear is we could've gotten an unprecedented film in scope and scale and instead got the cramfest of Lynches Dune..... man that is SAD
@lukaANDkrosty
@lukaANDkrosty 2 месяца назад
Lmao mediocre dudes always downplaying great artists
@mordreddelavirac
@mordreddelavirac 3 месяца назад
It just occurred to me, Jodo could use AI to make his movie in a couple of years.
@Culdune
@Culdune 3 месяца назад
Jodorowski created El Topo, and the Holy Mountain - two of the greatest films ever. The opinion presented in this video that Hollywood studio execs were justified in not trusting Jodorowski to make Dune is complete garbage. Go watch those movies and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. You'll also likely be an imaginatively enhanced person.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
The trust aspect has nothing to do with how good/bad those films were and everything to do with the things he said. Didn't call his films garbage, I just pointed out he says some crazy stuff. That could cost Hollywood's execs money if there was controversy over that.
@Culdune
@Culdune 3 месяца назад
@@FrameVoyager I didn't say that you called his films garbage. We're going to have to agree to disagree here. We all know Hollywood actors, directors, and producers are famously shown saying and even worse doing headline grabbing highly unethical things. Yet they're almost always allowed to continue with their careers after the dust settles. Jodorowski would have made artistic and pop culture triumph. It would have been psychedelic Star Wars before Star Wars. The big execs of Hollywood rejected his film because of the proposed big budget not because he was an impractical pervert.
@olliski2802
@olliski2802 2 месяца назад
Jodorowsky seems like an occultist weirdo.
@TimothyMReynolds
@TimothyMReynolds 3 месяца назад
Don’t you talk shit about Alejandro.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 3 месяца назад
Why not? Just showing examples of what he said 🤷‍♂️
@Tantraloverful
@Tantraloverful 3 месяца назад
Jodorowsky was not a very practical and palatable man for the pragamtism- bent Hollywood studios' bosses, but what is clear that while the current 'Dune' is solid and reliable - it is pedestrian, art-wise - mediocre and unimaginative, visually dreary - dull in a few shades of gray (except literally a moment with the blue 'water of life' potion, the entire flm is a goo of off-white to faded beige to asphalt gray), with every space - whether palaces or cave dwellings - looking like delapidated boxy shelters, and flat acting, all dressed like with leftovers from the Lynch's film - once you look for comparison at what the visionary designer like Iris Van Herpen creates for instance - who should be the designer for such film; instead - nothing like a galactic saga happening 20 thousands (!) years in the future ought to be; for sure - nothing psychedelic or surreal, or mind-bending or peering into the thrills space and mind travel.
@johnernest5843
@johnernest5843 2 месяца назад
Well let's wait for another 50 years for the "visionaries" that you esteem of to actually make a movie that exists in the real world and not just in the realm of fantasy
@donmagulon
@donmagulon 2 месяца назад
Yeah so after reading this comment section I come to a conclusion that you guys really rather have nothing than something. Its not like you pay for it in any way.
@currentofthesnake8486
@currentofthesnake8486 3 месяца назад
Even if this project had been created in their gigantism, it would be nothing more than a Holy Mountain on LSD. Or Holy Mountain Part 2. And in the end a product of its time. Just like all of Jodorowsky's films are a product of their time. And the adaptation would have ignored the crucial point, namely the criticism of the charismatic leader. That's why the film would be completely out of date for today.
@NintendoConsoleGamer
@NintendoConsoleGamer 3 месяца назад
Everyone swears this movie wouldve been the second coming of jesus, but after watching the documentary about it I'm incredibly glad this pervert's work never saw the light of day.
@Luke-db9fc
@Luke-db9fc 4 месяца назад
Jodorowsky should admit that he lost out on making Dune because of his sloppiness and lack of focus as an artist. He throws ideas onto the screen hoping it will amount to something, like present day Disney.
@FrameVoyager
@FrameVoyager 4 месяца назад
Exactly. And then blames film studios for not picking up this film because they were afraid or it's the corporate elite kind of deal, when really you can't blame them when Jodorowsky makes shocking statements around his film. I'd be scared to have him do it too
@troubadour723
@troubadour723 4 месяца назад
I only wish that Disney or any major movie studio would produce work as interesting, unique and idiosyncratic as Jodorwosky ever did.
@bobsbigboy_
@bobsbigboy_ 3 месяца назад
Please watch all his films and then come back with that same attitude.
@alessandrobaggi6129
@alessandrobaggi6129 3 месяца назад
The th7mbnail would be more classy and less clickbaity if you used some illustration based on the books. Yes, i'm an "old man yelling at cloud" and i don't like this newer Dune version...
@AaronLitz
@AaronLitz 3 месяца назад
It would have been a _horrible_ adaptation of _Dune._ Jodorowsky loves to do weird stuff just for the sake of being weird. And since far more people watch movies than read novels, that bizarre "adaptation" would have supplanted and buried the novel in the popular consciousness, basically ruining _Dune_ for pop culture. Even as a result of Lynch's _Dune_ how many people think that Paul Atriedes actually gained the supernatural power to make it rain on Arrakis at the end of the story, and believe that Paul actually _was_ the Chosen One savior of the Fremen, instead of the intentions of the novel as a _warning against_ charismatic leaders like Paul?
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