The Acolyte 1x2: Revenge / Justice | Rewatch And Discussion 

Re-watch when Osha talks to the "apothecary". He says "you look exactly like her." Kyle's gut (force intuition) is spot on. That guy is Sith.

I love this because it’s so positive with a few genuine criticism, makes me feel like I’m not insane. So many other reviews are just so negative or mid about it.

Turbin took the poison rather than fight her and/or confess his "crime" to the Jedi Council. I can't picture something horrendous enough to kill myself, other than literally being the one(s) that deliberately started a fire to deliberately kill many people to cover something up. The fact that it doesn't make perfect sense is what i really like about this show. Thank you, guys, for the positive, upbeat reactions!

Yord reminds me so much of Anakin. He acts like a Jedi, trying to be stoic and level-headed, but as soon as any issue occurs, he pulls out his saber and seems quick to temper. He’s ready to attack and ready to intimidate and question a witness in order to get their information. On the other hand, Sol seems like the perfect Jedi. He is calm and patient, and shows how he believes that peace and talking can help others, as opposed to fighting. Heck, even his fighting style seems to be solely based around defensiveness. He blocks and dodges, and uses his opponents momentum to spin them around and move them out of the way. It really shows the difference between the times of Jedi, with Sol representing the Jedi of the High Republic, as he never draws his saber, and he’s calm and collected and doesn’t want to fight. Meanwhile, Yord represents who the Jedi will become, as he immediately pulls out his saber and he’s always the first person to suggest just diving head-first into conflict.

I love that Mae is trying so hard to end a Jedis life without a weapon to shatter the illusion that the Jedi are untouchable

I just noticed that when Qimir pinned her against the wall she totally did the 👁👄👁thing for a few frames. Could chalk it up to just the actors doing whatever but makes it feel like, in Universe, she didnt know he wasnt just some lanky weirdo

I’m really enjoying Sol he’s such an amazing Jedi and actor Lee Jung-Jae his performance is awesome

Qimir gives me Palpatine vibes for sure. He's too knowledgeable, too skilled, and too slippery, this is exactly how the Sith survived so long under the noses of the Jedi. He's Rule of Two for sure.

This show is nowhere near as bad as everyone says! It's weird in some places, but people hate it too much! So far, I'm gonna give it a solid 8/10!

Also, the reason "I believe" that the Neimoidians went with a mechnic instead of droids is because the mechnics will do work and modifications that defy regulation, hence when Osha says "I'm more flexible."

Can always count on you guys for great reactions and discussions after! Thank you :]

I love how Master Torbin was participating in the Barash Vow, we only see it a few times in star wars media. Most known from The Darth Vader comics with Jedi Master Kirak Infil'a who survived order 66 because he was disconnected from the order when participating. It's sort of like a therapy for Jedi to find their inner-peace while also making themselves separate from others.

Calling it now: Qimir is totally the Sith. Maybe he's not even the one in the suit, but he's been goading Mae along, nonchalantly indoctrinating her with lines from the Sith code, and you're absolutely right that his whole everything is an act. Fun fact: A "chimere" is the name of a Bishop's ceremonial outer garment. Also, one of the meanings of "chimera" is a person possessing tissues or genetic components from more than one individual. Pretty heavy that after ten years of meditation seeking atonement, Master Torbin DOES NOT hesitate the moment he's offered an end to his guilt by Mae (does he think it's Osha?), who he thinks he wronged 16 years prior. I love that, again, just when you think they're about to sow drama and doubt amongst the characters regarding Osha's innocence, they put it to bed and get on with the story instead.

How profoundly frustrating show us an awesome Jedi Wookiee then roll credits that was just cruel😭

"I have a bad feeling about this" and "It's a trap"

Thanks again to Kyle, Bendu and Nerd Chronic! 🌑

The Trade Federation can pay their mekneks (?) a probably not too high salary and be done. Or they can buy expensive Astromechs, pay upkeep on them, hired mechanics to maintain them, buy a new droid whenever one gets trashed or lost working outside...

Hey Kyle! I work for a fairly large reaction channel and just wanted to let you know that the "10 minute fair use" is a myth. There are no legal definitions anywhere that reference a 10 minute time limit. I also did the VFX on that Vader: Pull to the light video and was so glad you checked it out!

You two are hands down the best! Love your authenticity and love for this. So excited for more! ❤ x

It’s really nice to watch you guys react. With all the hate out there it’s nice to see others enjoying the same show I enjoy. So thank u.

i am really enjoying this show, our actor who plays Master Sol he is doing it so well. also he is like our new Qui-Gon Jinn

It's so funny to me that everyone seems to get hung up on early reveals like who the murderer is but can't accept there's still 6 more episodes to explain more on it..

I have been looking forward for this

I'm loving it so far. New era, new characters, new dynamics. Sol is an awesome addition.

I didn't realize on my first watch, but I'm pretty sure Qimir another acolyte or like Kyle said he's the secret sith. Didn't hear it the first time, but when they meet she asks "What are you wearing?" and he says "I took it off the owner. Wanted to blend in." So he killed the "Usual guy" referenced later by the padawans keeping watch and maybe he's usually dressed more like Mae.

I spy with my little eye... Parallel to the Taris padawan massacre from KoToR. The three Masters had a vision, got freaked out, decided to prevent it happening and thus they inadvertedly set things in motion. Sol was not involved and witnessed only the end. Jedi Order covered up everything and will cover up everything that is going to happen further on.

Mae and Indara "Jedi only draw their blade to kill" Yord: Glowy sword go woosh. Genuinely though I'm loving the emphasis on the difference in style for the High Republic Jedi here - to note the two masters and their dodge only style is reminding me of The Grand Inquisitor and later Barriss, having just rewarched Tales of the Empire. Lastly, thanks again for bringing such a positive vibe, even when you have critiques it's still in a loving way and the fandom really needs more of this energy ❤️ see you in the third one.

Kyle I watched this show and I have some thoughts that have me thinking. 1. Osha's tattoo. This will be important and Sol will have an edge because of it. 2. Osha and Mae did not start the fire. Sol talked to Osha about her revenge on her sister who every one says started the fire. Osha believed what she was told. As for Mae, I bet we will find out that she didn't either and her thoughts about it. I think someone started the fire to get the twins. They wanted both of them but things got out of hand. 3. What if....what if Sol is not one of the 4 she wants to kill? I just have a feeling that he is not. (or I don't want him involved in whatever those Jedi did). Also, when I saw Mae offer that poison to Master Torbin, I got into my Sherlock Holmes feels (the book "A Study in Scarlet"). With that said, what really happened that awful day? He took poison instead of going to the Jedi Council. Something had to happen besides the fire. I need to watch 1 &2 again.

My guess is that astromechs are expensive. If the ship is running on a thin enough margin it might just be out of their price range to make it worth it in the short term. Businesses arent always good at long term planning.

Seriously cannot wait for the next episode! ❤

Yord is the most Paladin character I've ever met! @17:23 this scene is THE MOST Dark Crystal energy Star Wars has gotten, with the long shot of the funky practical effects swamp...

I didn't know Leslye Headland took some inspiration from Mike Flanagan; that's super cool! Now I want an episode with a really long tracking shot. And Michael Abels has scored for at least a few horror films.

Maybe the apothecary is like Obito Uchiha… seems like a comic relief at first but he’s actually bad ass.

V 4 Vendetta comparison is Spot. On. Love it

8:25 ironic that they cast the actor who played Tommen in GoT to play a Jedi who kills himself in this show

You know what I like most about this series, that the Acolyte is infinitely inferior to the Jedi and wins by cheating. HK-47 would be proud

I enjoyed the discussions! Two things I heard from you that did not occur to me while watching the episodes are: 1. Qimir might be Mae's master and only pretending to be someone lesser assisting her, and 2. That maybe Mae did not start the fire. I think you may be right about the first. It probably makes sense that this dark master prefers to keep all this between just the two of them instead of recruiting a third person to help. Could also somewhat explain why the voice at the end of the last episode sounded weird, like robotic, as if it's cloaked deliberately so no one would recognize the voice. I wonder if throughout the years the master was training her, it was from afar like that? As for the second, I'm not so sure. I think Mae did start the fire... In any case, they (the 4 Jedi targets) seem to have done something that they tried to cover up. The question is what is it? Initially, when I was watching the episodes, I thought maybe they were fully aware that Mae was alive but they left her for dead. I wonder if this is something anyone else (i.e., the Council) was aware of, or if it's a secret among just the 4 of them. That Mae had a twin was not in the records, so perhaps it's the latter. And it really does seem they knew she was alive, because why would Torbin have been waiting for her if he thought she was dead? This brings me to something you pointed out in episode 1 regarding why would Indara not be able to sense that 2nd blade attack from the left hand that killed her. Well, maybe it's not that she didn't sense it. It's just that, in addition to choosing to save that bartender instead, she already recognized (or sensed/knew it was) Mae at that point and, much like Torbin, thought that somehow she deserved to die as some sort of penance for what they did 16 years ago. Which means that when Sol instantly believed Osha when she said her sister was alive, it's not really because he had faith in her or anything, it's because he already knew all along, and in fact kept it hidden from her all these years that her sister's alive. One last thing before something that might be spoilery... I do think Mae started the fire. I'm not sure but, my impression was that this was a magically started fire. I don't know if all (or any) Force users can start fires, but the thought that came to me when it was said that Mae started a fire that killed her family, was that she started it magically, as opposed to playing with matches or something. And maybe this somehow connects with that little girl in class who said she saw fire, and Sol kind of reacted to that. His reaction to me was like surprise or shock as if fire is something negative (compared to what the other 2 students mentioned earlier), but he caught himself and said something positive. Finally, the thing that MIGHT BE SPOILERY... Maybe it isn't, I'm not sure. I never saw the trailer, maybe it was mentioned there. But as I was writing this long-ass novel, I took a quick look at the wikipedia page just to check the spelling of Qimir's name (I couldn't find it in the end credits) and I saw something... Osha and Mae's mother is supposed to be a force witch or something? I don't even know what a force witch is, but from the word witch, I imagine it's more a dark side thing? Maybe? So maybe the bad thing that the 4 jedi did was... maybe they killed the parents? Maybe the family didn't die in the fire. Maybe they were killed before the fire was started. Maybe Mae saw her parents killed and because of that, somehow she started a fire? And Sol said he tried to save them both, but maybe Mae did not want to go with them because she saw them kill her parents. And so they left her... for dead... And they only took Osha and told her that her sister started the fire that killed them all... Btw: another thing I saw in the wiki page is the twins kind of represent yin and yang, so... light and dark?

Torbin's force bubble is akin to the Force Bubble used by Grogu when he contacted Luke. The "fire' Was created by the Jedi to Separate the Force Dyad of Mae and Osha. The Jedi had an Old Luke/Young Ben Solo moment with Mae.

Loved the long discussion, it's great that we get a show set in a different time period, it really bring interesting new topics of conversation

11:24 so this sound effect, I'm pretty sure I heard in the animated LOTR when Gandalf disarms Aragorn and Gimli

Master Torbin's bubble seems to be the same thing Grogu did when ForceTiming with Luke.

Episode 5 flashback prediction, just like Ashoka 👍 Love your work as always gents!

Now that Mae has seen her sister alive and well, i hope the thirst for revenge dries up and she switches sides At the same time though, i fear that Osha will switch to the other side because her faith in the Jedi may dry up as well soon enough; plus she may want to make sure Osha never loses Mae again so she'd want to be as close to Mae as possible I read the philosophical elements of good and evil (jedi and sith) will be explored and the twins will definitely be the at the forefront Relationships will be tested here, no doubt about it Qimir is definitely hiding something; he may well be the shady figure behind all this, just like Palpatine hiding in plain sight He's about the same height as the figure and that dodging he did was too precise for a random peasant-like survivor/smuggler to just be good at coincidentally And knowing how to make Bunta so effortlessly is sus too I give the premiere episodes an aggregate score of 8/10, losing points because of how short they are Can't wait for next week!

Episode 3 is the flashback episode, thats why a lot of the reviews say it doesn’t fit well because we are suddenly in the past. Also Kelnacca gives Torbin the scars, you see it in the trailer.

Hey I've just subscribed I loved your reactions and reviews for this cause I love this show so far it doesn't deserve the outright hatred it's been getting ironically and I love your knowledge of Star Wars especially The High Republic

Is the Wookie Jedi the reason why the Wookies are hunted down?

I was waiting for this reaction for a year and finally I had time to watched it. Those that had read the novels, comics and/ or the middle books of the HR I can say this show is going to be the show of the year!!

They keep asking “who trained you” do you think they recognize the style In that why they filmed the fight - so they can analyze it

I think Qimir is another Acolyte like Mae. It would be cool if she's forced to fight him some time.

Its only 100 years before the Prequels not 250 😭😭 they even say it in the title card btw. That’s why people are assuming the stranger is Darth Plagueis or Darth Tenebrous. I theorize it could be Tenebrous’s apprentice before Plagueis and then he dies at the end which is why the Jedi thinks the Sith are gone

Qimir is a Sith lord, but he's not The Sith lord. Mae is the Ventress to Qimir's Dooku. Granted, I'm pretty sure the tooth helmeted guy is probably Qimir and I have no idea who the Sith Master is, or if we've even met him yet. Also, Tommen Baratheon has clearly seen some things to cause him to take the vow.

I believe that during the show we'll see Mae turn good, and Osha go bad. I think the relationship that emotions have with the force will be a theme. When Sol catches up with Osha after she's just seen Mae, i think he's disappointed she chose revenge (shooting at her sister). I believe that Osha will learn of what really happened and both characters will flip. I cant wait to see more whether i'm right or wrong tbf, this looks to be great.

37:41 Unfortunately Dooku was Yoda’s Padawan ☹️

Personally after watching the premiere a few times.. it feels like the bigger reveal is going to be why the twins are important.. going a whole season or even half a season to figure out they are twins or Mae is still alive, I feel like it would fall flat .

I feel, the masked character isn't the big bad, they are totally setting this up for a season two. I mean, LF thought the story (and High republic era) was strong, they gave this show a huge budget, it was always going 16 episodes.

Jedi Master Oppo Ranciscis is also around

I'm really fascinated by a lot of reveals and new mysteries about Mae. She's not this experienced assassin of dark, she's someone who's still figuring out things and has a lot of insecurities, while at the same time she wants to prove something. And something tells me there's still some light in her. She reminds me of Kylo in a lot of ways. I absolutely didn't expect that she had no idea Osha was alive. What the heck happened? I assumed in the first episode that she resents Osha because she thinks Osha left her to die, but apparently not. How did that fire go down? Like you guys speculated in the first episode, was the Jedi actually responsible? I'm sure the reveal about what really happened is going to be the turning point that ties everything together. What the heck is going on with those Force dreams Osha has been having? Clearly they aren't illusions made by Mae, as i initially assumed. And Mae hasn't been getting them, is it because she's along the path of the dark side? I'm really excited to learn more about them.

Great reaction and very insightful comments . Two episodes in and I am really enjoying Acolyte , its not to the high bar level of Andor but it is no way to the low bar of Boba Fett either , at the moment is is in between . I have read so many hater comments that Acolyte is the worst show ever and that Star Wars is dead etc , criticisms that you cannot physically have fire in space which is true but by that thinking the Tie Fighters would not make their fly by scream and all space battles would be in total silence as there is no sound in a vacuum , other criticisms are about Osha surviving the crashing prison ship , well if you don't like that did you not like Penguins car flipping over multiple times in The Batman and Oz surviving maybe they could have added a bruise , broken arm etc to Osha but you have to suspend a certain amount of belief , other haters did not like Indara dying personally I think it just reinforces that fact that while Jedi are powerful they are not unkillable or immortals . Your reaction was great and very positive and I have watched a handful of reactors react well to this show but for the most part reactions and reviews have been very negative , I think that it has now become fashionable to bash Star Wars these days . Both eps were well paced and well acted Lee Jung Jae is fantastic as Sol he brings so much to the character and his performance just as Liam did with Qui Gon , Amandla is terrific as Osha , Mae giving very little differences and subtle nuances in her dual role , in fact the only performance I find a bit muted is Daphne Keen but I think that is more my expectations after Daphne was so great as X 23 . The effects , ship and droid design are very well done with the Ships , Craft being familiar but not so sleek and slimline as they are later on , the creature effects are great too and way better being practical than CGI , the costumes are great and very imaginative and the location shooting looks way better than using the volume . I like the story structure being very much a mystery and the implications that the Jedi were involved in some shady acts and covered it up . Personally I think all the Disney Star Wars shows have ranged from Amazing - Andor to disappointing but still perfectly watchable like Boba Fett and Obi Wan the two weakest entries but neither of those shows are to the level of awfulness that the Batgirl show was I tuned in for the first two episodes of Batgirl and that and then dumped it . My ranking of all the shows so far is thus . 1. Andor . 2. The Mandalorian . 3 . Ahsoka . 4. Obi Wan Kenobi . 5 . The book of Boba Fett . If Acolyte carries on like this I would probably place it 4th place after Ahsoka and before Obi Wan , but we shall see .

The tattoo will come into play as a way to identify the difference between the two of then. A bit to on the nose of a setup.

Love the reaction, don't think this show can be compared to Andor in any way.

Wouldn't the Sith lord (not the apprentice) at this time be Darth Tenebrous as he is listed as Plaguies master? By the way, wookiepedia got like next to zero info on Darth Tenebrous.

Isn’t Sith Alchemy a big thing among dark side users? His poison making abilities makes me think he could be the mysterious villain

Good Review. I think a lot of people who have issue w/show have more issues w/show runner action/lack of action and actors comments off screen. Just taking the show as presented, while different, not bad. Not Andor/Mando level, pero solid so far

So far it looking very good. 👍

Another banger reaction to another banger ep. Thanks boys!

What if Osha is the sith? Why is she out of the Jedi order? Remember the twin rhyme they did in episode one? Kinda reminds of the sith rule of 2.

Why didn't Sol use his mind- reading ability on Qimir? Sol use his mind-reading ability before, on Ep 1..

Yoda trained Dooku so no connection to Sol.

I like Master Sol, both the character and the actor. When you need rescuing. “Better Call Sol”. I understand the actor does not speak English. That reminds of Gert Frobe, the actor who portrayed Goldfinger. He could not understand English, but should seem to speak if fluently on film.

SW FINALLY has a Force field

LETS KRIFFING GO!!!!! Waiting for another day for Kyle/Bendu's reaction was worth it, and the way Sol blocked and dodged Mae's attacks is once again Matrix/Crouching Tiger vibes in it. The Barash Vow being mentioned from the comics to live action is a beautiful refence to when Darth Vader fought a Jedi who took the same vow after Order 66. Tis episode definitely feels like an assassins creed to it.

어린 메이의 환영이 오샤에게 자꾸 나타나는 이유는 메이의 세뇌 당하지 않은 무의식이 쌍둥이 자매 의식에 감응하기 때문인 것 같아요. 그래서 토빈이 독약을 마시려하자 오샤 앞에 나타나 자길 따라오라고 유도하죠. 메이는 제다이들을 죽이고 싶어하는데 어린 메이는 반대로 행동하고 오샤에게 힌트를 주고 싶어합니다.

That’s cool beans! Instead of a bar or cantina full of aliens, we get an outdoor open marketplace full of aliens. 💯

I didn’t think of Qimir being the Sith Lord until watching your reaction. I was thinking though, wouldn’t Sol be able to sense his force abilities or the dark side in his presence? I know they couldn’t sense Palpatine but I thought that was maybe a unique case.

F any reactors who hate this show and they can stop watching the rest of the season also no one is force choking them to watch the rest of the season if they wanted to. I’m enjoying this show also this is a murder mystery type of Star Wars that is very new to us. I would like to know what are the 4 Jedi responsible for that made Mae decide to get revenge on them also who is her Master which is keeping me intrigued and interested.

Qmir knows waaaaaaay too much to be a mere fixer. Bro leads off with the Sith Code to lecture Mae. ⛩️👀⛩️ If Mae wanted to prove herself to "The Master" she would have gone full Hannibal Lechter on Torben and had him turn his lightsabre on himself (killing the dream) rather than resorting to the poison.🤔 *Breaking HoloNewsNet Update* Unregulated Force User used [Pocket Sand] on Jedi investigators... it was super effective.🤘😏

Very impressed with the new costume and ship designs. Have fun with that cosplayers!

Could Yord be the Sith Lord? Seems eager to draw his saber

Could one of the Twins be a force projection of the other and it's being done subconsciously?

they are right to distrust that twin she let her get away

I think Yorde is the Sith Apprentice. And I think Osha, is like possessed by May's force ghost kinda thing. So her body is the one committing the murders, but it's actually May. And Osha has no memory of any of it.

Mae didn't start the fire!

Is Gungi from Bad Batch related to Kelnacca?

@KyleKatarn I heard that the producer leyslie wants to make a live action kotor show and even put a legend or a kotor character villain or hero in a show idk how to feel about it

Bendu with the Billy Joel reference.❤

Whatever happened with Mae and Osha's family has to be very bad because Mae wants her revenge. The 4 Jedi involved all took very different paths afterwards. One went to the Outer Rim as a form of exile. One went into a trance for 10 fucking years as a penance! One lives in the wreckage of a ship in the woods. And the last took a teaching job with younglings instead field work. So it has to be heinous.

So much compassion and humility but not tied down by the Jedi rules

Force-Fu.

Good talks & good times with new beautiful Star Wars Telly show 🙂 I have Forever Sub to Disney+. I sincerely give 8/10 to The Acolyte after first 2x episodes. Later i'll add them via couple websites & to blog post 🙂 Gonna restream both episodes before third one lands. I wish good streaming times to you everyone & share el good word 🙂

Possibly…. There parents where the ones who started the fire and the SITH Jedi and using there kids to START A WAR.

I also think that Mae's (sp?) contact is more than he seems. His "stupid" act is pretty good, but is just an act. I wonder if the one with the mask is just another Acolyte and the guy is the true master. There's no reason they wouldn't go against the Rule of Two.

Very interesting episodes. They didn't wasted time on going right to the action. With the mystery of what happened on Osha's homeworld only being brought later in episode 2. Why both sisters were thinking the other was dead? And what "sin" those 4 Jedi(Indara, Torbin, Kelnacca and Sol) commited that Torbin accepted killing himself when confronted by Mae? Master Sol wears his emotions on the sleeve, which is kinda nice. A lot better than being stuck up like Yord who is always talking regulations while being really trigger happy with his lightsaber. Much better than acting like Master Vernestra. They literally know where Mae is going but she wants to stop to debate. Debate what? You know where the killer is going to be. Whoever that "Darth Shark" is i believe he/she has more than one acolyte. Qimir knows way too much about the 4 Jedi targets Mae needs to kill to prove herself. Plus he is quoting the Sith code and clearly has some fighting skill. So i get the feeling he is also another acolyte. By the way nice touch with the Barash Vow. That was right out of the Darth Vader comics books. And there was a selkath too at the Jedi temple. Plus the Jedi temple outpost, i quite like the idea Jedi still aren't so centralized a century before Sidious started his machinations.

Pocket Sand 😅 I'm glad I watched that episode recently, or I would have missed it.

Apparently Jason Mendoza never actually made it out of the Bad Place

Kyle, who is Eugene Cordero in SW?

YES twins in star wars has a strong connection with each other so thats where this story doesn't make sense. I can understand if they were at the far ends of the galaxy and can't detect each other, but being on the same planet and in the same vicinity and still cannot feel that the other one is still alive? I don't buy it

I think they either (thought they) killed Mae or left her for dead for the greater good. So, they're living with the guilt of the choice they made and covered up. Maybe they started the fire in the cover up.

After 2 episodes im thinking ok, Im gonna save my opinion until i watch the complete series.

I agree the drug dealer is the Sith!