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THE ACOLYTE EPISODE 3 - Why it didn’t EXACTLY break canon 

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The Acolyte Episode 3 may have been terrible, but it didn’t exactly break the canon the way a lot of people are saying it did.
(This video is about the Force, not about the twins and how they were made or about how the Jedi were portrayed in this episode - enough has been said about that online already that I don’t need to add to the cacophony of criticism for it)
This is my first video doing a voiceover so forgive the quality.
Also forgive the clickbait title and thumbnail but a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do.
Clips belong to Disney and Lucasfilm respectively.
Audio at the end belongs to the Alan Watts Organization
Music: Bogano - Stephen Barton from the 'Jedi: Fallen Order' soundtrack

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@bmarshy
@bmarshy 13 дней назад
Hey guys! I know everyone’s going to have their own opinions on this but let’s try to keep comments respectful to one another. Remember, it’s just a tv show. I personally don’t even consider it canon to Star Wars, but let’s not forget that the experience is always far more important than the story. Debating the details of the lore should always just be a bit of fun, so don’t take it too seriously and don’t get upset if somebody disagrees with your opinion! We’re all Star Wars fans here, let’s just have fun with it! Thanks for watching and may the Force be with you all!
@notabannedaccount8362
@notabannedaccount8362 14 дней назад
The cope is strong with this one.
@negativenergy6878
@negativenergy6878 14 дней назад
Learn to accept when you actually might be wrong. You won't feel like an anti-woke bad ass everyday but you will gain real life wisdom.
@xylerian
@xylerian 13 дней назад
@@negativenergy6878Take your own advice.
@94Cobra123
@94Cobra123 13 дней назад
@@negativenergy6878 Thanks Disney bot.
@davmatt941
@davmatt941 12 дней назад
I think you’re missing the guys point. He’s not defending the show in any way. He’s simply picking apart what seems to be a common, poor critique of it. Unless there were an episode released of someone like Luke saying, “the Jedi were wrong and these witches were right” then this is just a shit story about some witches that no one will bother to remember in 5 years because it’s so shite.
@Thor847200
@Thor847200 14 дней назад
I understand what you are saying but the problem with your argument is that the people that actually wrote and directed this series said they were changing the way the Force works. So this isn't just "another interpretation" this is them actually trying change the way the Force works. This is not us saying it, this is the people who made the series say it. All this means to me is that this is yet another example of some new person in the spotlight that thinks they can do better than 40+ years of already established and loved writing and Billions of Dollars made and completely failing at it because they don't actually care about the established lore or the franchise at all, it is just their newest way of trying to inject their idiotic ideologies into the fans escapism where it was never wanted or asked for to begin with.
@bmarshy
@bmarshy 13 дней назад
100% agree
@emilsinclair4190
@emilsinclair4190 13 дней назад
Remember. Everything people say is not canon. Only what is stated in official material is. Also we don't rly have a lot of canon lore regarding the force itself.
@conscientiousobjector5988
@conscientiousobjector5988 3 дня назад
The whole audience every episode: Wake up, Oshi...
@Somagerg
@Somagerg 14 дней назад
Bro… give it up
@JonDoe-uq1mk
@JonDoe-uq1mk 14 дней назад
The witches are framed as being correct about the force. What they say must be true, because they can do things that no other Jedi or Sith could do, and they do it with such ease that it's laughable. It's obvious that it isn't just their interpretation.
@colewilliams6623
@colewilliams6623 3 дня назад
I think people, based on the like and dislike ratio are taking WAY to much out on this guy. All he is doing is explaining how it might be possible that the force/thread part of the show isn't breaking canon. Now do I agree, not 100% no, but it is simply one view on it. Again, he even says he is not advocating for the show, its quality, or the writing, just this singular aspect. I think the most damaging part of the show is how the twins are created using the force. That undermines the importance of Anakin's birth
@ConorChaos
@ConorChaos 14 дней назад
The Force is to be interpreted in the way that George Lucas intended - not by every writer/director Disney hires to write their atricious shows. You're in some serious denial. The Zepho, and many other races have different names for the Force because language is a thing, not because it's different depending on species, or what part of the Galaxy you come from. It's always been a constant in what it was until George sold his IP.
@bmarshy
@bmarshy 14 дней назад
I think “denial” is a strong word in this context, we’re talking about a fictional tv show not some important political or philosophical topic. But yes I get what you mean, i don’t personally consider much outside of George Lucas’ saga to be canon but in this instance I think a lot of people were misinterpreting what was said in the episode. That’s all.
@emilsinclair4190
@emilsinclair4190 13 дней назад
Sorry but you are wrong. Already in legends there were many groups of force users with different techniques, ideologies and interpretations. Jason was kinda famous for traveling to all of them and comparing them to each other.
@ConorChaos
@ConorChaos 13 дней назад
@@emilsinclair4190 and George acknowledged that the novels kind of went off the rails and wanted to start from scratch. Terrible example.
@emilsinclair4190
@emilsinclair4190 13 дней назад
@ConorChaos ... bad example? There are like countless cases. And tbh different groups with different approaches and ideologies makes just logical sense.
@BobTheBarbarian
@BobTheBarbarian 12 дней назад
I very much hate how this show is trying to rework and change already established things (like the force). I will confidently say that I do like Lee Jung-jae's character. I think that he is really doing a great job in the show even with the bad story and plot.
@isolationnationn
@isolationnationn 13 дней назад
I think you missed what everyone is mad at… *cough cough virgin births*
@bmarshy
@bmarshy 13 дней назад
Don’t worry I definitely didn’t miss that, and that is obviously the big problem with the episode. My video isn’t about that though, it’s about the witches and their view of the Force. I’d have a lot more to say if I was making a video about the twins because trust me i don’t like it anymore than anybody else does.
@emilsinclair4190
@emilsinclair4190 13 дней назад
Okay but like it is not a problem? They used the force to create them. Like we would use in vitro fertilisation. So I just don't see the problem?
@marcsonic01
@marcsonic01 12 дней назад
@@emilsinclair4190 Because Anakin Skywalker is the chosen ONE. He was birthed from the FORCE. So now 2 random FORCE SENSITIVE TWINS are also birthed from the force??? I don't even like the sequel trilogy but even Palpatine's goal was to create FORCE SENSITIVE beings, which was obviously difficult. Essentially the Acolyte really disrespects much of the Star Wars content that came before it.
@emilsinclair4190
@emilsinclair4190 11 дней назад
@marcsonic01 except that nothing you said is true. Anikain was most likely (not completely clear in current canon) created by the force itself. Those twins were created using the force. Yes. And do you see why a group of force users experimenting since generation might have more success than palps? Especially since we don't know how difficult it was?
@Rich_828
@Rich_828 11 дней назад
@@emilsinclair4190it undermines the goal of what Palpatine and his Master were trying to accomplish for years. Which is creating life by bending the force to your own will. Creating life seemingly out of nothing but the force was to be a highly unattainable ability, and now it makes Palpatine and Plagues look like two dingus’ because they could’ve just learned it, or forcibly taken it, or even exploit the Witches regarding this knowledge. We don’t know how the show ends yet so we’ll see.
@mycelia_ow
@mycelia_ow 14 дней назад
Good video. Mic quality isn't too bad/
@jaxsonlambert9750
@jaxsonlambert9750 14 дней назад
Yeah they didn’t change the force. Like you said, the way they explain it is basically a different way of how we usually explain it. It connects us like it always has, it has a will of its own like it always has, and you can go against it. If this is such a big deal to people why was no one upset that Sol said the force was like a ocean in episode one, I do not understand these people. Also Anakin was born by the force ITSELF, while the twins were born with the force. Anakin is still special.
@joak9992
@joak9992 14 дней назад
Anakin was born from an experiment by Darth Plagius. That's my problem with the twins. Anakin took a Sith Lord decades of study into a specialized field of force manipulation to make.
@jaxsonlambert9750
@jaxsonlambert9750 14 дней назад
@@joak9992 Well both options on how Anakin was made are valid. But do you think this coven of witches just learned how to do this over a short period of time? I would think they spent generations trying to create life and this was when it finally worked. If the sith can do it so can others.
@AJ-gt6ts
@AJ-gt6ts 14 дней назад
​@@jaxsonlambert9750 Maybe, but it makes Anakin less special and more just plain unusual. I don't think it should've happened at all, but if it had to, Anakin should've been the first. Like it or not, we humans care about who did something first, and having a coven create life 100 years before Anakin makes Plagueis's efforts seem like old news. It also makes Anakin as 'the chosen one' feel kind of arbitrary, since 'if the sith can do it so can [anyone]'.
@jaxsonlambert9750
@jaxsonlambert9750 14 дней назад
@@AJ-gt6ts Well personally I believe the force made Anakin but I can understand how you feel. I still think Anakin is very special because he is the chosen one and how he brought balance to the force. Also remember how powerful Anakin was, the twins in comparison are not close to his level. Anakin is way more special then the twins and that’s what makes him not old news.
@nathangraham2276
@nathangraham2276 13 дней назад
​@joak9992 The Force creating Anakin was caused by Plagueis and Palpatine, yes. They tried to manipulate the midichlorians to create life, but the Force didn't like this so they created Anakin and this eventually lead to a rebalancing between light and dark sides of the Force
@halasyamv3190
@halasyamv3190 14 дней назад
yes you are right about the force being interpretted in many ways and infact i dont think that is a major problem, but what the issues i have is unless is was meant to be a delebrite character flaw, but first calling the force not to be used and then teloing to bend the "thread" force to your will is very hypcritcal , then you have the child thingy , jedi dont go after full children anakin was the only expection and due to the chosen one profecy and the fact he had no father , then how the twins were born , is very ridiculus , your telling me these sect of witches did what m plagiues could do with years of mastery with just thread , thats just vial disprect
@emilsinclair4190
@emilsinclair4190 13 дней назад
Plagius is not rly canon anymore. Also yes. A group of force users experimenting fir generations might achieve results a single force user experimenting for his live might not. I mean whiches can also create zombies.
@jacobscholtissek2410
@jacobscholtissek2410 5 дней назад
@@emilsinclair4190 plagueis is more canon than anything Disney made, other than Andor and rebel one maybe.
@emilsinclair4190
@emilsinclair4190 5 дней назад
@@jacobscholtissek2410 ...except that it isn't. You can't just claim something that is not supported by lore..
@jacobscholtissek2410
@jacobscholtissek2410 5 дней назад
@@emilsinclair4190 i go with Canon Ladder 1st Orignal Creator 2nd Time of release 3rd Quality can placed above time of release willingly and logical retcons ofc are not included and Disney is at the bottom for most of the time.
@emilsinclair4190
@emilsinclair4190 4 дня назад
@jacobscholtissek2410 sure. Feel free to go with your headcabon but than don't be surprised when others don't follow it
@RGSMANIA
@RGSMANIA 12 дней назад
I just couldn't get passed the chanting ..the chanting my god the chanting 😂..
@bmarshy
@bmarshy 12 дней назад
I think I literally paused the episode and had to take a couple of deep breaths during that scene 😂
@theprobucket5699
@theprobucket5699 12 дней назад
Porg profile picture detected. Opinion rejected.
@bmarshy
@bmarshy 11 дней назад
Comment respected 🫡
@marcmichaud1643
@marcmichaud1643 14 дней назад
The issue is that this show introduces twins being born through The Force, ruining the entire premise of Anakin being The Chosen One or what I to call him: The most important character in the whole franchise. 180 Million Dollar budget and it's pretty clear that the writer either didn't understand that or didnt care. It's terrible writing.
@bmarshy
@bmarshy 14 дней назад
100% agree
@Omnipulsar
@Omnipulsar 14 дней назад
The movie was so crap I missed that part. Just last episode made a world record for being the longest flashback scene in a movie but there literally trying to make a new chosen one? These writers aren't even trying anymore
@Mr-Rinn
@Mr-Rinn 14 дней назад
Because if Anakin wasn't the only virgin birth in existence his entire character is meaningless? That's ridiculous!
@marcmichaud1643
@marcmichaud1643 14 дней назад
@Mr-Rinn It's literally the point. When Shmi recounts how Anakin was born to Qui-Gon, it immediately signaled to him that Anakin was THE CHOSEN ONE. That's why he takes him to the Jedi Council. One. Singular, not plural. It's the whole point. The Acolyte completely destroys that, that's why this show is ridiculous.
@Mr-Rinn
@Mr-Rinn 14 дней назад
@@marcmichaud1643 The wording of the Prophecy on Wookieepedia is "A Chosen One shall come, born of no father, and through him will ultimate balance in the Force be restored." The twins fit one of these categories, they were born of no Father. But they're not male and most importantly they don't bring balance to the Force by destroying the Sith. So calm down, the Jedi of the time might wrongly interpret that the twins might be part of the prophecy, but that's pretty much it.
@killert_7759
@killert_7759 11 дней назад
This is bold. I respect it. I even somewhat agree. Good luck dealing with the stupid Star Wars “fans” though, you’ll need it.
@theoutdoorslifetv3200
@theoutdoorslifetv3200 12 дней назад
No. Disney has ruined Star Wars. Long before this debacle came along.
@meyeskaysss3097
@meyeskaysss3097 13 дней назад
But still bad story to kill Anakin is chosen one, Disney try to kill Star wars as saying jadi is bad people, Acolyte series is worst star war 🤔🇮🇳
@hispanic_panic7762
@hispanic_panic7762 12 дней назад
How did they kill anakin?
@asambi69
@asambi69 12 дней назад
It aint even about the 'Force' change. Its about it being s terrible episode, I thoight I was watchkng a Star Wars Musical
@rawhead3752
@rawhead3752 14 дней назад
The thread is stolen from Wheel of time
@jacobscholtissek2410
@jacobscholtissek2410 5 дней назад
and their logo from the nazis
@akseiya
@akseiya 14 дней назад
So you don't wield the Force as a power, you just pull on the Thread to change everytihng. Two completely different things as long as you don't have more than one functional frontal lobe. Name and visualisation is not the problem, it's how self-contradictory and lame this particular interpretation is presented by the show to be.
@punchy5668
@punchy5668 12 дней назад
This shit sucks😂point blank idgaf about woke bs I care about good writing and good actor and this show has nun of it but hey🤦🏾‍♂️
@xylerian
@xylerian 13 дней назад
Couldn’t finish the video such a shit take lol
@bmarshy
@bmarshy 13 дней назад
How would you know what my take is if you didn’t finish the video? 🤔
@hehe6969
@hehe6969 13 дней назад
@@bmarshy "THE ACOLYTE EPISODE 3 - WHY YOU’RE WRONG ABOUT IT" its literally in your title dude.
@bmarshy
@bmarshy 13 дней назад
4:02
@xylerian
@xylerian 13 дней назад
@@bmarshy Because I watched most of it and your point is weak? You’re the one wrong about it. You’re entitled for your own crappy take though.
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