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THE ACOLYTE HAS A CRAZY PLOT TWIST! MAE IS ACTUALLY DEAD! (Star Wars Theory) 

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In this Star Wars explained video, The Acolyte twins Mae and Osha (Amandla Stenberg) in the Leslye Headland series are not what they seem. Jedi Master Sol might know the truth and Osha is lying. They are the same person because Mae died years later and a Force Dyad lets Mae live through her sister. We explore connections to the High Republic, the Sith, Qimir, and more!
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@StarWarsMeg
@StarWarsMeg 20 дней назад
Just a fun theory... would love to hear YOURS below! 👇🔥
@cad2988
@cad2988 20 дней назад
More left wing nonsense will be injected into the story and the force will be made female 😂.
@cad2988
@cad2988 20 дней назад
More leftist bs will be put in the story. That’s my theory.
@cad2988
@cad2988 20 дней назад
This show is just another low quality Disney show. We haven’t had anything good since Mando season 2.
@DaleESkywalker
@DaleESkywalker 20 дней назад
I'm glad you found something relatable, Cad. How's your day?
@obviouslysub-dude9082
@obviouslysub-dude9082 20 дней назад
Some people will find something they love ❤️ in The Acolyte. Others will search for things to twist into something to hate. Is it really there or does it not bother most people because they allow entertainment to be what it was meant to be.
@Aaron-br1fc
@Aaron-br1fc 20 дней назад
It’s not in her file that she’s a twin because the Jedi who were there are hiding something about what went down there.
@gabrieleguasti5503
@gabrieleguasti5503 20 дней назад
Abeloth went down . Mae at the end of Osha's dream-vision has the same dark eyes that Abeloth has and so young Torbin in the trailer
@LadyTano44
@LadyTano44 19 дней назад
@@gabrieleguasti5503 whats Abeloth?
@williamhenderson1161
@williamhenderson1161 17 дней назад
No - he SAW her die. Horrible writing.
@gabrieleguasti5503
@gabrieleguasti5503 17 дней назад
@@williamhenderson1161 like Obiwan saw Maul die
@gabrieleguasti5503
@gabrieleguasti5503 17 дней назад
@@williamhenderson1161 he say don't trus your eyes
@trap41sosa78
@trap41sosa78 20 дней назад
They are definitely 2 people I think the twist is osha was the one who started the fire (evil) but yet the Jedi took her and left the weaker (good) twin which had corrupted her
@user-zl9sh9mz6h
@user-zl9sh9mz6h 20 дней назад
Your theory resembles a leak from Star Wars Theory several weeks ago. His Lucasfilm "spy" was right about everything else that he leaked, BTW. 🤔
@trap41sosa78
@trap41sosa78 20 дней назад
@@user-zl9sh9mz6h didn’t even know that pretty crazy finna go watch and see what they talkin bout I enjoyed the show but would like more fight scenes feels like a detective Star Wars show right about now
@jamesallred460
@jamesallred460 20 дней назад
"This means that the evil twin is and always has been.... Bart! " 🤣
@darthsaragos
@darthsaragos 20 дней назад
@@jamesallred460 The Dr. Hibbert Paradox
@ui-guy-
@ui-guy- 18 дней назад
@@darthsaragos don't look so shocked
@gamerbeans7445
@gamerbeans7445 20 дней назад
Osha is in master sol's custody. When Mae 1st attacks master Torbin.
@thedarkside3899
@thedarkside3899 20 дней назад
Force projection.
@TheHerm14
@TheHerm14 20 дней назад
Also the clothing isn’t the same. I don’t think she moves as fast as Superman to change out of that chest plate so quickly….. No it’s her twin.. this video doesn’t make sense
@thedarkside3899
@thedarkside3899 20 дней назад
@@TheHerm14 while you may be right.. Why tf do they have the exact same hairstyle? 💀
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 20 дней назад
And Yord was watching Osha ever since she broke off from the group.
@legendsofabhaile
@legendsofabhaile 20 дней назад
@@thedarkside3899 eh, I want this theory to be right, but they -don't- have the exact same hairstyles. Mae's is longer especially on the fringes - but overall about an inch or two longer.
@Desertfox201
@Desertfox201 20 дней назад
What if Osha is both Mae and Osha and is using force projection to be in 2 places at once. Mae didn't actually die in the fire but is the Sith in the helmet and is horribly scarred from the fire.
@Fishrokk
@Fishrokk 18 дней назад
You both say it. Put two of Sol's lines together: "You can't trust your eyes." and "I saw her die." Those were the two dots I connected the instant I heard the second line.
@cmdrvex
@cmdrvex 11 дней назад
Also Sol states that Mae was "presumed" dead and then shortly after, states that he saw her die with his own eyes. Oddly contradictory.
@InventiveHarvest
@InventiveHarvest 20 дней назад
Okay, so one way this theory might actually work is that after Mae's death, Osha physically split her body into two people.
@MysticTroll
@MysticTroll 20 дней назад
It kinda reminds me of what happened to Revan a little bit, after his death in the Foundry, his essence split into a physical Dark side, and a spiritual Light side
@williamkrause5585
@williamkrause5585 20 дней назад
That’s the only way I’ll accept this. It’s such a big reach to assume it’s only one physical person doing everything with what we’ve been shown.
@PaletteWIngs
@PaletteWIngs 20 дней назад
@@williamkrause5585 But what we've been shown has happened mostly from Osha's perspective. The parts we see through Mae's eyes could've happened at any time. The editing made the timing of a lot of events confusing for me, and I wonder if it was confusing on purpose. If the main characters are unreliable, the validity of everything we've been shown comes into question.
@thomassoane4302
@thomassoane4302 20 дней назад
I was thinking self-cloning... or triplets lol But whos the Sith? Maybe thats Osha, after she left the jedi order. Doesnt make sense she just became a mechanic unless thats her split personality.
@InventiveHarvest
@InventiveHarvest 20 дней назад
@@thomassoane4302 yeah, that checks out. Osha clones herself after she leaves the order. She convinced the clone that it is Osha and it becomes a meckanic. The real Osha then joins the darkside and plots her revenge...
@craigmoffitt2374
@craigmoffitt2374 20 дней назад
Anyone who has seen Russian Doll, Leslye Headland's previous work, is aware that what seems like a straight forward premise isn't.
@Fedaygin
@Fedaygin 20 дней назад
Yes. Such a good content Russian Doll is & so is The Acolyte so far after 2x episodes. I love especially S01E02 ^^ Soon via D+ i'll restream S01E01 & second tomorrow evening 🙂
@ZeroP.E.-2
@ZeroP.E.-2 19 дней назад
After Meg made the Russian Doll comment at the end, I had to look it up to see if Headland was involved with that show and sure enough she was and that show was a definite head trip! So good on Disney for tripping people up and doing a show that goes in this direction! The trippy aspect of the force on display is something that’s been long overdue imo lol
@user-kz5gw7xe4o
@user-kz5gw7xe4o 18 дней назад
@@ZeroP.E.-2 That may be, but writers and directors don't always make the same kind of story, and Leslye Headland talked a lot about 'Frozen' and wanting to make a movie like that (sisterly-love-conquers-all). Also, this is Disney, we're talking about. I think they are far more interested in 'Frozen meets Kill Bill' than in 'Kill Bill meets Mullholand Drive' (though that does sound kinda cool).
@0_P.E.
@0_P.E. 18 дней назад
@@user-kz5gw7xe4omaybe it’s both lol why not?
@ZeroP.E.-2
@ZeroP.E.-2 18 дней назад
@@user-kz5gw7xe4omaybe it’s both, I mean why not both? Lol
@saywise1106
@saywise1106 20 дней назад
The twist is that the Jedi are the bad guys who have killed her entire village and because of guilt tried to raise the surviving child but because of her trauma kicked her out, not realizing that her sister lives on through her. By the way one personality can use the force, Mae because of her hatred and the other can't because the Jedi blocked her ability.
@markkuykendall5475
@markkuykendall5475 20 дней назад
Both of Osha's wake-ups are in the same place, they're just shot from a bit of a different angle.
@roberts_archive
@roberts_archive 20 дней назад
-I’ve felt like something bizarre going on with Mae, Sol says to Vanestra that the twin was presumed dead, while telling the others he saw the twin die. -Is an Unreliable narrator at play here? Or is it possible Mae died and brought back via how the witch coven used the force? Could the witch coven have a connection to the Master or Apprentice at the time, with them having used their abilities to save Mae? -Were the Twins predisposition to the light & the dark each, so Sol took Osha. Also the Jedi master who took the silence vow inside the mediation shield said to Mae “we thought what we were doing was right” before he took the poison which was very interesting.
@caucajunsaint1474
@caucajunsaint1474 11 дней назад
I share this theory, so here are my notes: Osha is Mae - other prisoners say Jedi Killer is crazy, and she planned the escape - blocks of time missing from Osha - Osha’s mexnek partner asked where she went the night the Jedi was killed - Osha can’t use the force, Mae can - quote during flashback of the two girls, “you’re with me, I’m with you, always one, born as two” - the Light and Dark “O”s in the title card - The show seems to set up audience tricks - OSHA was never in the same room as Mae and witnesses - Sol says your eyes can deceive you, do not trust them. Then says he saw Mae die - “You look exactly like her” Qimir - “It’s not going to stay safe if OSHA keeps running away” Not OSHA and Mae - Only one girl blocks during training, other girl stands behind. Other trainees block side by side - ‘Ascension’ is the power of many over One - The girls argue, “we are not the same” then “of course we are”. Hair braiders behind them are shook by this - OSHA and Mae are always dressed the same as children - “What the thread has tied together, no one can separate”. Is that what the Jedi tried to do? Separate? - Only Mae is Ascendant - Only OSHA comes out to meet Jedi - As kids they are not identical, in the future they are. So this split personality theory could start after the fire. Because of Ascension? - Sol keeps asking who trained Mae, it was him
@philosophical.traveler
@philosophical.traveler 20 дней назад
Maybe she was force projecting with master Torbin, not really there but he could see her in his mind. She arrives as the conversation ends just in time to hand him the vial right before Yord walks in. Also, maybe, as others have said, Yord is the sith, he knows Mae/Osha has a split personality and he plays along.
@adrianbello6710
@adrianbello6710 20 дней назад
he clearly said she was with me while the Jedi temple was being attacked
@Onasaki
@Onasaki 20 дней назад
Unreliable Narrator seems like a really good theory. I think we're on to something here. We know from TOR that the Jedi don't shy away from murdering entire colonies of sentients who are disrupting their stuff on their home planet. We know the Jedi don't help unless they absolutely think they should. On top of that, we know the Jedi wipe memories. It was even referenced in one of the episodes. It's a reference to Revan.
@artiemedley9369
@artiemedley9369 20 дней назад
Can she teleport? After Indara's death, Osha's next character interaction is with a coworker that she tells, "What I do on my days off is none of your business". Sol is convinced that Mae is dead, but turns right around and tells Osha, "I believe you", after SHE says that Mae is alive. He's placating her, like a mental patient. Maybe they memory wiped her, but it never quite worked fully. You're not insane, Meg. Great theory!
@kevincarter2020
@kevincarter2020 20 дней назад
It would be a bullshit "twist" tho since jedi have the ability to pull her thoughts and had her in custody halfway through 1st episode
@persephone342
@persephone342 20 дней назад
@@kevincarter2020he could be afraid of awakening “Mae” and damaging any psyche patch placed on her mind by the Order. He may be trying to assess first, then gather the most powerful force users to help. Sith power is extremely strong due to the Rule of Two. By activating her dark side, many younglings, new Jedi, their knowledge, the people, and their prestige could be endangered. They may lose younglings to the dark side, or grey Jedi like Baleon Skull. New schools of Force Users emerge during this time too.
@uberrod
@uberrod 20 дней назад
Except that the way events played out on Olega it had to be two people. No way one person could be doing all that. The first time Torbin was attacked, Osha was with the jedi on their ship in hyperspace. The second time Yord was watching her the entire time. No way one person could do all that.
@opin74creative
@opin74creative 20 дней назад
Yes I also thought it's weird they made it a point to have characters conflict what they said in a previous scene in a different context.
@scottn2046
@scottn2046 19 дней назад
Crazy thought - just doing a rewatch and at a couple of points, particularly when Sol was talking about Osha and Mae something felt off to me. Is there a possible reading where he is the secret Sith and he is protecting Osha/Mae against the Jedi. He saves her, he's very quick to believe her, and doesn't put her in handcuffs much to the discomfort of everyone else.... he does though seem to be in the battle against the masked Sith from the Trailer. ... my feeling is the reason the Dark Sith user has the mask, is there will be a big reveal and it's OMG it was him/her all along. I think QImir is too obvious. And so unless it's a character we haven't met, like their mother, then there are very few characters it might be.
@BrentStewart
@BrentStewart 19 дней назад
The only way this theory could work is if she's subconsciously force projecting Mae when she sleeps as a means of dealing with the trauma of loosing her. Maybe she knew this was starting to happen when she was a padawan, it freaked her out, and she left the order.
@TheeKrix
@TheeKrix 20 дней назад
Leslye Headland states, everything you think the Acolyte is, it’s not. So for those who actually think this show is good, it’s not.
@daranphilipson1025
@daranphilipson1025 17 дней назад
It is
@metalfest02
@metalfest02 20 дней назад
Theory might hold some weight. Between filming from a POV stand point and inconsistency in time between scenes Mae being an alter ego of Osha (or vice versa) is possible. Jail breakers were caught way to quick from one scene to the next. And the bar tender being there on the ship to accuse Osha of wreaking his bar was also out of place. They're playing with time between scenes. Also Osha and Mae are almost in the same location when sleepy jedi un-alvies himself. Yord vouches for Osha's innocence in that scene, appearing as a standup guy. But if Osha and Mae are one and the same, Yord is covering for her crimes. Might he be the sith in disguise then? The show is asking the audience to think. They are too many little inconsistencies in how things are presented in this show. Assassins just don't roll up on their target and say "fight me bro" while taking a dueling stance.
@thomassoane4302
@thomassoane4302 20 дней назад
Actually i think theres a clue in that 'attack me with all your might' line. Its so out of place and weird, must have some significance to whats happening
@stefano8846
@stefano8846 20 дней назад
Great theory but I just saw in a random video about the acolyte a leaked photo of the last episodes with Yord fighting the sith... so he's a real jedi. but I think osha and mae could still be the same person.
@matthewpopovich3917
@matthewpopovich3917 19 дней назад
@@stefano8846 there's always two Sith
@metalfest02
@metalfest02 18 дней назад
@@stefano8846 Dang spoiled already. Yord does come off as a arrogant, so he might get better as the story goes. Its one less point in favor of the theory, but there is a lot of things still out of place.
@M1kke78
@M1kke78 20 дней назад
Good points and there's something to it, BUT they are not the same person. It's something else.
@stefano8846
@stefano8846 19 дней назад
they are a force dyad, like rey and kylo ren, this is the twist
@thgrimlord
@thgrimlord 16 дней назад
The Jedi 100% slaughtered that that coven. I wonder if they made OSHA think she saw her sister, of even controlled her sisters actions?
@wigglemd
@wigglemd 20 дней назад
Thanks Meg! May The Force Be With You...Always
@jermaineneal1946
@jermaineneal1946 20 дней назад
I think Mae is Osha. She went to the dark side mourning her sister. She brought her sister back with help from the sith and/or mothers and she is placed or given a “life” as a Mekmek. Osha knows what the Jedi did and wants revenge.
@marquis2339
@marquis2339 20 дней назад
They were literally both in the same scene at 1 time
@JustinClarke27
@JustinClarke27 18 дней назад
You ever watched Fight Club?
@empireofengland6039
@empireofengland6039 20 дней назад
Very entertaining, really. But Osha was with Sol and others on ship in hyperspace, while May attacked Torbin.
@Movielad76
@Movielad76 20 дней назад
Force projection? Though doesn't mean that Mae would have a blue glow around her and thus giving the game away? I don't know. *shrugs*
@empireofengland6039
@empireofengland6039 20 дней назад
@@Movielad76 I see what you tell me. Even being clear one like Luke in the Last Jedi, I didn't gave her that credit, because she was unexperienced . She studied in Order like 10 years out of 16. 6 years ago she left order. 10 years of study, not good student ,can't really use force ,understands it,yes,not uses much. So I'm still thinking that she is separate being
@Movielad76
@Movielad76 20 дней назад
@@empireofengland6039 True - but the Force is still a mysterious thing (a bit like nature itself) that even the Jedi and Sith don't understand completely. Could be something. Could be nothing. At this point I'm as confused as everybody and hopefully we'll find out soon enough as to what's been going on.
@persephone342
@persephone342 20 дней назад
@@empireofengland6039I think she’s extremely powerful in the force. I believe her powers are affected by her trauma. If she’s two souls in one body, perhaps Mae is the stronger force user since she’s a dark side ussr.
@stefano8846
@stefano8846 19 дней назад
@@Movielad76 bro i understand it but literally luke skywalker died when he created a force projection (for the effort) and then a random girl start doing this without any problem. Even if she was born with a force dyad and all that shit I think fans would be mad
@SwaggerLikeUz
@SwaggerLikeUz 20 дней назад
Great theory Meg! This kinda reminds me of seeing “The 6th Sense” in theaters. Most didn’t didn’t pick up the subtle fact “Bruce Willis” character was deceased on the initial watch.
@shiverinthedistance
@shiverinthedistance 20 дней назад
Spoiler alert
@LogicBlaster
@LogicBlaster 18 дней назад
Hey, Star Wars Meg, I don't know if anyone has suggested this, but what if Osha is the twin who died, and she is just a projection? Have you noticed that her droid is always close to her, even when she was taken prisoner in the first episode, he is always there. The only time he seemed missing is when she had her "vision" interacting with her sister. Is her droid projecting Osha? I feel like Sol knows.
@IsaacKuo
@IsaacKuo 17 дней назад
I agree that it feels more likely that Mae is the one who survived. Perhaps when Mae survived, she suffered from a split personality syndrome, and Sol decided to suppress her original Mae personality in favor of Osha so she could join the Jedi Order. According to my crack theory, Master Indara disagreed with this course of action, while their padawans were wracked with guilt. Or maybe they never were twins to begin with. It's just ... their reports to the Jedi Order did not include the fact that Osha had a twin sister. Why not? Why not include that information? Maybe because it was never true? Maybe Osha never had an actual twin sister? I don't know ... but something's going on here more than just long lost twin sister ...
@sergioaccioly5219
@sergioaccioly5219 19 дней назад
SinceOsha was in Jedi custody at the beginning of ep 02, and in another star system, to boot, I was prepared torejectthis theory, until I remembered that Luke used a similar hability to project himself though star systems in TLJ.
@heathermackenzie7670
@heathermackenzie7670 20 дней назад
Definitely a compelling theory. I could see Mae dying and accidentally using Osha as her vessel (as Palpatine intended to do with Rey). The more I think of it there's another plot point from the Sequels (Luke projecting himself from Ach-To to Crait) that could explain the holes, especially Mae's first attempt on Torbin's life while Osha is on Carlac.
@bobobo2224
@bobobo2224 19 дней назад
It is weird that her twin has the identical hair style and color even though they havent seen one another since kids. She could be force projecting like luke did.
@usudo2021
@usudo2021 День назад
I had the same thought. I told a friend that Mae was a "Tyler Durden" so to speak. It's wild that you found that Fight Club connection. The wake-up scenes where Osha gasps and sits bolt upright reinforced that theory for me. After 5 episodes, I'm less convinced this will pan out. That bring said, I still think there will be some twist surrounding the twins.
@ArthurCallahan389
@ArthurCallahan389 17 дней назад
Hedlund has plagiarized so much already that I had decided a few days ago that they’d pull a Fight Club Tyler Durden kind of thing & one is dead while the other developed a split personality because of the trauma. They’ve never been seen by anyone else interacting with each other. There’s a difference in influences and copying.
@kostas_a_1924
@kostas_a_1924 18 дней назад
Mae isnt dead. But Indara is probably alive and a Sith
@jax1449
@jax1449 20 дней назад
i think there is a dark force user who is manipulating her grief as a youngling to believe her sister lives meanwhile the sith maybe is using some ability to take control of osha? maybe temporarily control her mind as the alter ego rather than having a twin still? maybe the dark force user thinks the way to defeat the jedi is to use other jedi… similarly to how palpatine learned to groom jedi anakin into vader?
@MLCOH23
@MLCOH23 20 дней назад
Maybe she is able to Force project her alternate ego, and maybe that's why she was not able to touch the meditating Jedi cause her conscious was also focused on the hear and now. With the Jedi who found her.
@jasonsadowski1070
@jasonsadowski1070 20 дней назад
I rewatched the first 2 episodes trying to see if this theory could be possible. Honestly the only way I see this working or being possible is through the use of Force Projection. In the Last Jedi Luke used it to fool Kylo so that everyone else could escape. While using Force Projection he was able to fool everyone into thinking he was there. He even was able to hand Leia the dice from the Millennium Falcon. Yet when it came to fighting Luke is unable to interact with the physical world so unlike other lightsaber duels the blades never have contact. For Luke to keep up the illusion he only plays defense. However once his powers ceased the dice disappeared. Now there are a few problems with Luke's form of Force Projection being key to this theory. The first being it is a Lightside ability. Second in order to use it to the extent Luke did it meant him sacrificing his life because of how draining it was. Third Mae clear fights & interacts with Master Indara, she gives Torbin the poison he used to die neither should be possible with this power even if Darkside user could weild it. The fourth issue is when Luke used it he was in a deep state of mediation so the possibility of Osha using it while sleeping maybe works however when Mae is trying to escape Osha is shown clearly awake. The final issue is if Mae/Osha were able to be capable of this ability I doubt they would only be an acolyte trying to become an apprentice to a master. However since this theory could be really cool I did a little deeper dive. There are 2 other forms of force projection that could work as a solution but they only have existed in Legends material. Now given the show has already pulled from extended Star Wars content by introducing the Barash Vows into live action I definitely think they could use something from Legends and make it canon. The first alternative force projection ability is Doppelganger. With this ability computer scans, Droids and everyone else could be fooled into believing the projection was real. With this ability the user could interact with the physical world. Now with the Doppelganger ability the illusion was an exact copy projection meaning it wouldn't be possible for Osha & Mae to appear dressed differently or be distinguishable from each other. It also was a Lightside ability. The second possibility is Force Phantom. It was a darkside ability and the projection could be anything but the user's own image. So while they are twins I think it is possible that the Tattoo might be enough of variation to fit how the ability works. Force Phantoms can interact with the physical world and they can inflict injury &/or death on someone. Which to me means if force projection is how they are manipulating events Force Phantom makes the most sense. In legends the person would have to be a significant force user to use this power however unlike Luke's version it wasn't as taxing in terms of life force. There is also a non Force Projection option that is talked about in Star Wars Myths & Fables which for a lack of better way of putting it involves a Jekyll and Hyde like factor. However I dont think that is an option because Mae has been seen by others while Osha's presence can be accounted for. Now what is unclear is the proximity limits of this ability it is not clear if it works over great distances. Given the two places at once issues I think the Jekyll & Hyde, Sixth Sense and Tyler Durden (Fight Club) explanations do not work. The only way for Osha not to be aware of her activity or for Osha/Mae to pull off the two places at once ruse you would need an accomplice in the style of the Tony Clifton ruse Andy Kaufman used in real life. If you aren't familiar this concept here is quick explanation. The actor/ comedienne Andy Kaufman created a foul-mouthed, loud & obnoxious alter ego Tony Clifton. He would show up on set or in public and just piss people off. Andy would blame Tony for things and act like he was unaware of what Tony was doing. While Andy & Tony looked totally different those close to Andy wouldn't buy into Andy denying to be Tony or Tony denying to be Andy. However one day while in full view of the public Tony showed up at an event with Andy clearly being present. How this was accomplished was by having Andy's friend Bob Zmuda appear as Tony. In the grand scheme people figured out the whole thing was a giant bit but briefly some actually believed the two people existed separately. Which mean that if this style explanation is possible there would need to be a third party pretending to be Mae to be an alibi for Osha. I think the biggest question that has to be answered for the only one Twin is actually alive theory to work is why go to this extreme to seek revenge? Why would you need to pretend your dead twin is alive if all you are after is revenge? Whether you kill as Mae or as Osha the result is the same. However I think there is one explanation or motive that works. There has been a lot of focus on the concept of killing a Jedi without a weapon and killing the dream of the Jedi. Now for 3 of the four Jedi Mae has set out to kill none of those characters really would care who is trying to kill them whether it be Mae or Osha. Yet with the fourth Jedi the circumstance is very different Master Sol claims to have seen Mae die, he genuinely cares about Osha, he also may have been aware of whatever events that involved the Coven's destruction but didnt participate in the events same as the other 3. Given the other 3 Jedi are living in solidarity isolated from the day to day events of the Jedi it likely stemmed from great shame & guilt making them believe they needed to remove themselves believing themselves unworthy of being traditional Jedi. Whereas Sol who seems to have some regrets but largely seems content with events of the past. Therefore getting to Sol would be harder both physically and emotionally. So if he were to find out the whole time Osha was helping solve these murders she was actually playing the long game to get him and betray him. That level of pain would destroy him it would shatter his world, destroy his beliefs and like Anakin betraying Obi-Wan be a pain too great to fully comprehend. Essentially that revelation might be enough to cause his death but no weapon will be used to accomplish it.
@B.A.S.Drydock
@B.A.S.Drydock 19 дней назад
Luke, in The Last Jedi, was in 2 places at once when facing Kylo at the end of the movie. So, maybe Osha can project Maye in the same way Luke did in the TLJ. The director said she was influenced by the TLJ, so........?
@blairbrown4812
@blairbrown4812 20 дней назад
You either embrace the madness that is the Acolyte or you utterly despise it. There is no middle ground, no in-between.
@NekBodesh
@NekBodesh 18 дней назад
Upon reading the title, I'd say you are crazy but you and your guest made some very interesting points. Excited to see what happens.
@taylormadealpha
@taylormadealpha 20 дней назад
Qimir said, "you look just like HER". If he was tipping his hand to say he knows she's the other twin, wouldn't he say "You look just like Mae"? For this theory, maybe he was saying Osha looks just like her MOTHER. Maybe he's saying this bc he was there when her mom died and there's more to him. I think he's another acolyte or the Sith apprentice.
@RizNJ
@RizNJ 20 дней назад
I listened to the entire video very carefully and I think this is pretty brilliant. It would explain a lot of the clunkiness in the dialogue and pacing. I didn't even understand why Osha woke up in a such a panic to start the show! That was odd to me from the onset. Nothing had happened (in her mechanic life) and she wakes up as if something awful just happened. It also explains why Mae and Osha have the same hairstyle - which seemed like a ridiculously, lazy oversight by the directors. The odds of 2 young women who have not been around each other since being toddlers having the exact same hair is pretty dumb on its face. And I love that it makes Sol's statements logical - "I SAW HER DIE." He says it quite definitively. And he tells Osha - "I believe YOU" - that doesn't necessarily mean he believes Maw is a different person killing Jedi. It could just mean he believes Osha is being sincere that SHE (that side of her personality) did not commit the murder. Throw in the Fight Club breadcrumbs (which I was unaware of) and all it adds up. Amazing theory. Great work!
@alfobetic4397
@alfobetic4397 18 дней назад
she’s one sith and one jedi in one person .. split personality. Both fighting out of revenge for one another’s perceived death… Just a guess… Fight Club was a mind fuck as well…
@JimTempleman
@JimTempleman 20 дней назад
Best theory I've heard for the Acolyte yet! I still don't think it justifies redefining the force, but we have yet to see that.
@CrookedFiction
@CrookedFiction 20 дней назад
I noticed that May woke up the first 2 times we cut away from Osha. I wondered if there was some “force projection” going on. Like Luke from the Last Jedi but over a shorter distance.
@luisfigueroa6710
@luisfigueroa6710 18 дней назад
I think that it’s one spirit bouncing between two bodies. Because Osha split from the group and Yord followed, but how did they get to Torbin after if they took a short cut? Which adds to the mystery with Yord. If you notice, many of Mae’s scenes happen when Osha is incapacitated to a degree. Yord could’ve been observing the spirit transference happen.
@bobobo2224
@bobobo2224 19 дней назад
The poison tor the jedi was actually put there by the guy who made it.... The real sith.... She used force projection to enter the mind of the jedi. The force field she was trying to break through to get to the jedi was a mental. We see them interacting only mentally. Think about it. Why was she trying to attack him if she brought the poison for him to voluntarily take? I think she NEEDS them to attack her with all their force because she uses their own force against them or to help generate her projection stronger.
@daranphilipson1025
@daranphilipson1025 17 дней назад
What if Mae is OSHA and OSHA is Mae?
@michaelmeredith912
@michaelmeredith912 19 дней назад
If this is the case then it would be similar to a Magnum PI episode from the 80s. It was the episode where Sharon Stone played a twin however it turns out her twin sister was dead and the one sister was schizophrenic and she was talking to her evil sister in her head. This was before Sharon Stone was famous. It’s a great episode to watch. A double episode 👍🏼
@imanimoonchild
@imanimoonchild 17 дней назад
Soooo, are Osha and Mae apart of the Night Sisters from Dathomir? Is there another tribe of witches we're being introduced to?
@IsaacKuo
@IsaacKuo 17 дней назад
From what we see in episode 3, I don't think they are closely related to any of the Dathomir witches. They're definitely not native to Brendok, though.
@thomasbowen5619
@thomasbowen5619 20 дней назад
@starwarsmeg Go back to the prisoner scene. The guys she saved was In a cell and says “the Jedi killer is evil I sensed her darkness.”
@stefano8846
@stefano8846 19 дней назад
he was lying in order to make the jedi believe that she planned to escape i think, in fact when the jedi read his mind he literally says: “She saved me and I betrayed her”. I think Mae and her are like a force dyad, like kylo ren and rey.
@SonoftheredEarth
@SonoftheredEarth 20 дней назад
So, basically they're expanding off of Luke's force projection ability? Osha just doesn't know she's doing it or able to control it?
@EusebioBermea
@EusebioBermea 17 дней назад
I wanna sit at a table and be part of conversations like this ☺️
@simondyda
@simondyda 18 дней назад
I'm visually impaired so I'm a listener not a watcher. I thought the split personality thing was what they were hinting rather heavily at, to the point that I assumed it was a deliberate red herring. Öh, and that Sol is the Sith master.
@danielhollenbach539
@danielhollenbach539 20 дней назад
it might not be a bad theory, think of how Luke projected himself in the Last Jedi. Maybe there is something to this. I was thinking that Mae might kills Osha in the end without a weapon to become an Acolyte.
@Royzoner
@Royzoner 20 дней назад
This is all really interesting- it’s gotta be some kind of witch stuff not so much split personality.
@Valandhir
@Valandhir 19 дней назад
There also is the weird fact that the Miralan Master wants this case silenced quickly... I wonder what she knows.
@joeygay7115
@joeygay7115 18 дней назад
Could may be a force projection like Lukes force projection met Kylo?
@pcb462
@pcb462 20 дней назад
Maybe she died a different way initially, and then the witches reanimated her. This infuriated the Jedi, they went to kill the witches and started a fire… they thought the reanimated twin died, but she actually didn’t.
@MrGrimlock2099
@MrGrimlock2099 20 дней назад
What if the twins ARE both alive but Osha does have a split personality but isn;t Mae but zctually the Sith and is manipulating her own sister! Qirin could be the red herring and just who he says he is.
@philipguimerans
@philipguimerans 16 дней назад
I think this is a nice theory. But I think the last scene of episode 3 kills this theory - I wont spoil it for anyone who has not seen it yet.
@isaackim7675
@isaackim7675 20 дней назад
It always confuses me how one actor can play multiple characters related to each other. For example Patton Oswald playing quadruplets in AOS
@JediYutu
@JediYutu 20 дней назад
I at first thought the same thing Meg...until Master Rwoh states in Episode two that Master Torbin was attacked... Since Osha was physically on a starship with no less than four other Jedi when that happened. Osha couldnt physically have been there and done it. So Unless Mae is some sort of new "force ghost" ability or something, that cant be it.
@AndyGarcia82
@AndyGarcia82 20 дней назад
I hope this comes to fruition. Much more interesting than how it has been going so far.
@mooonpaw
@mooonpaw 20 дней назад
Ah, well, they were literally in the same scene together, right? So...Kinda hard to have that. Unless the person running out of the temple and in the getaway vehicle was someone else entirely, and Osha was just 'seeing' Mae there, then I'm skeptical. Could she have been seeing her sister when it was in fact someone else? Sure. Her master was there down the road and looked on with a worried look. *Could he have seen the 'real' person in the getaway vehicle? Possible. But it's a big stretch.
@Paul_LaSalle
@Paul_LaSalle 20 дней назад
It’s possible that if you’re right and May is an alter ego, that may remembers what the Jedi did and that thing has something to do with erasing OSHAs mind or messing with her memories and that’s part of her motivation for killing the Jedi.
@reallyjimreally8210
@reallyjimreally8210 20 дней назад
I caught a momentary glance at a tattoo on Mae's forehead when she was fighting the first Master (Indara). I have not seen that same tattoo on Osha's forehead. It's hard to see past those braids, but even during the prison ship escape and crash I didn't see it. Not saying that debunks your theory but food for thought. Also, Jedi Knight Yord could be the masked Sith if the trailer is of him fighting someone else not the Sith Lord. Maybe he was the Sith apprentice and killed the Master, That along with the whole Lord - Yord thing. That would also explain him vouching for Osha after Torbin. Very interesting theory Meg!
@dustincongello5802
@dustincongello5802 20 дней назад
But everyone else saw mae and fought with Mae while Osha was right there . And Osha was with the jedi when Mae was poisoning the meditating jedi
@zeropyrex6260
@zeropyrex6260 20 дней назад
I think they are a force dyad and one is naturally always gonna live a dark life and the other a light life Mae is the natural light one tho and osha is the natural dark one even tho they are on opposite sides of the force oshas destiny is to become the sith and make will die but on the light side of the force and osha continues the rule of two and bc she’s part of a dyad that’s what pushes back against the force and creates anakin skywalker bc of what the sith do in this series
@azboy0810
@azboy0810 18 дней назад
This theory makes a lot of sense. That would explain why the sisters are not aware of each other until now and it would make sense of the show to date
@stephenrodwell
@stephenrodwell 20 дней назад
Thanks Meg! 🙏🏼
@lilfinger7183
@lilfinger7183 20 дней назад
Events happened at different times, but being delivered to us sequentially
@Movielad76
@Movielad76 20 дней назад
I thought about this as well and In the first episode I thought that Mae may (ha!) very well be a Force twin that pops up whenever Osha is unconscious. But given that we have seen them together - but NOT together (if you see what I mean) still makes this theory a possibility - so definitely with you there, Meg. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I actually like the show so far, and willing to give it a chance when others will not.
@fazbrogaming7776
@fazbrogaming7776 20 дней назад
Osha and Mae look at eachother when Mae is in the speeder in ep 2, Osha tries to shoot her, so that pretty much debunks the theory.
@JimTempleman
@JimTempleman 20 дней назад
If she hit her when she shot: That would have debunked the theory. Otherwise it's just playing mind games.
@BaronesaReturns
@BaronesaReturns 20 дней назад
our eyes can deceive us, don't trust them...
@jillian4068
@jillian4068 20 дней назад
Intriguing theory! There's a chance that something like this could be happening, potentially involving a dark side application of force projection. The Last Jedi showcased Luke using this ability during his fight with Kylo Ren. Similarly, Kylo and Rey were both shown to be projecting to each other remotely since they were a force dyad. (Luke's death after using it is a whole other discussion.) Perhaps "Mae" is indeed Osha, but after leaving the Jedi Order, became the Acolyte, and is now physically pretending to be Mae, hence the physical fight scenes. However, maybe with her and her sister possibly being a dyad (despite Palpatine's claim in Episode 9 about force dyads being rare - perhaps with Mae's death, their dyad status went unnoticed). If the sisters were a dyad, and Osha is dealing with significant trauma, she might have truly tapped into the dark side and discovered a way to simultaneously force project as we see in Osha's perspective scenes. For example, Osha during the crash wasn't able to use the force to retrieve her droid, suggesting that the version of Osha we see is actually the force projection, while the "real" Osha, could be masquerading as Mae. It's also possible the real Osha, if posing as Mae, might be tapping so deeply into the dark side, she's not actually consciously aware that she's also projecting through the force to appear physically as Osha - so she could have been shocked seeing what appeared to be a real version of her sister when she was escaping on the speeder. It's definitely a stretch, but the surviving twin's anger and trauma could be amplifying her ability to utilize force projection in this unique way (unlike Luke's usage). Palpatine's quote about the dark side of the force being a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural could be an interesting layer to this theory and the force projection concept. They may have chosen to include something along this line as a potential big twist.
@johncouch6860
@johncouch6860 20 дней назад
Luke as a projection couldn’t physically interacr. He was like a hologram
@slygeebee7575
@slygeebee7575 20 дней назад
Which might be where the witches come in..?
@DreadfulUtopia
@DreadfulUtopia 20 дней назад
It is an interesting theory. That she has dissociative identity disorder due to her trauma from her childhood. With the Jedi trying to cultivate Osha and the Sith trying to cultivate Mae. Disney have done this topic before too, with Moon Knight, so I definitely wouldn't rule it out. But it would also imply that Sol is covering for her somehow when Mae attacks the Jedi master while Osha is in custody. Is Mae really powerful enough to force project for that long when it quite literally killed Luke Skywalker? I guess we'll see!
@victorsmith7567
@victorsmith7567 20 дней назад
Jedi I. The High Republic were running a quiet ‘Inquisition’ against other Force users in the galaxy. 🤔
@ivarbrouwer197
@ivarbrouwer197 20 дней назад
There’s a famous Star Wars comic book where Luke wasn’t on the millennium Falcon but made it appear as if he was, so the gang would escape, which they wouldn’t have if Luke didn’t go with them. After they escaped, the illusion was lifted. As such, there’s some precedent of Jedi faking their presence at a place they weren’t.
@sw-gs
@sw-gs 20 дней назад
Astral projection: when Osha goes to sleep, Mae manifests herself from Force, like Luke did. When she wakes up Mae disappears. But something went wrong during episode 2 and Mae saw Osha. From teaser "Awake" I belive in this theory.
@darthfader7414
@darthfader7414 20 дней назад
Nope…….The force projection theory doesn’t hold up because the dark sider makes contact with the pooled water on the end scene of episode 1.
@chromacypher8409
@chromacypher8409 20 дней назад
Sol watched Osha shoot at Mae and miss. Wouldn't that prove they exist simultaneously? Not as a manifestation...
@IsaacKuo
@IsaacKuo 20 дней назад
We don't know for sure what Sol saw.
@Treayom
@Treayom 20 дней назад
Please, they literally run into eachother..
@agensop
@agensop 20 дней назад
one could be a force projection like luke
@carolbriscoe9337
@carolbriscoe9337 20 дней назад
Your theory would explain Sol's remark that Mae is dead. A Jedi would not be fooled. Could he have sensed Osha's split personality? And she could've easily killed Torbin while the others were watching for the apothecary to show up. The street urchin could be been told to attack the door when her party appeared. The Jedi could've died hours earlier. You've raised my curiousity to a whole other level. I'll be watching till the end now
@christophercarroll
@christophercarroll 20 дней назад
They don’t actually show Torbin die. He takes the poison and “Mae” leaves. When she comes back as “Osha” he was dead.
@ainsleyramai8311
@ainsleyramai8311 19 дней назад
There was something similar in Agents of Shield with "Leopold" being an alter ego of "Fitz"
@alibryant749
@alibryant749 16 дней назад
What about the forehead tatoo that May seems to have that Osha doesn't?
@TheeKrix
@TheeKrix 20 дней назад
I’m telling you now, OSHA is going to be the Acolyte! You heard it here first!
@loveoffilm4327
@loveoffilm4327 19 дней назад
Evidence in your favor: The tattoo is a classic narrative set up for a reveal later when you see Mae had the tattoo The whole vision where Mae says always one but split as two or whatever Qimir says you look like "her" not you look like Mae Osha and Mae never seen by anyone else together Sol caught Mae from falling the same way he caught Osha They pointed out Osha not going out with friends at the time the murder took place
@starman1222
@starman1222 20 дней назад
Is Osha doing Force Dopplganger? Like the end of TLJ? Only she is masquerading as Mae in Doppleganger form?
@agahnim0196
@agahnim0196 20 дней назад
Just wrote a comment about that! Yes! It's my thought as well! :D
@DerTaran
@DerTaran 20 дней назад
This is exactly what I think as well.
@angelasaunders3558
@angelasaunders3558 20 дней назад
I’m inclined to agree with this theory you have presented…and that we won’t get a clear answer until the end of the series. I think the mysteries will also build with things seemingly “off” where Osha is concerned, but I do believe that Master Sol knows or at least suspects the truth. This series is going to be better than I thought.
@gjcart26
@gjcart26 18 дней назад
She is one person.. great theory
@befree7041
@befree7041 11 дней назад
At first, it feels like too many clues and over-the-top twists to be comprehensible. By the third episode Osha openly rejects the coven and makes her bid for the Jedi. This is what keeps me in. Agree, it's messy.
@carlawarrick2598
@carlawarrick2598 20 дней назад
Great theory. If you are correct then Yord lied about her not killing Torbin. That leads to the theory that Yord is the Sith.
@PaletteWIngs
@PaletteWIngs 20 дней назад
I thought of this as a possibility a couple of days ago and said it jokingly during a couple of different livestreams on YT that I caught. That there aren't actually twins and it's the same person and that's the real twist. I've been thinking about it more since then, because I found the editing confusing as well. I didn't know that Headland had made everyone watch Fight Club but hearing that really makes me think it is the case even more. That and some of the other things you've pointed out, particularly the perceived clunky dialogue and Sol's reaction and behaviour around her. The weird editing during the Torbin scene is what prompted it for me, but I like that point about her waking up twice on the crashed ship. It's something we've seen in these types of psychologically fractured characters as back as Firefly when River Tam wakes up twice. Or was that Serenity? I can't remember? If it is the case, I wonder why has Mae returned now to wreak havoc among the Jedi? It's gonna be interesting to see how it plays out.
@PaletteWIngs
@PaletteWIngs 20 дней назад
Osha being one step behind Mae the entire time, like in fight club, might also explain the weird editing creating confusion about the timing of events. Mae confronted Torbin a day before Osha and the Jedi showed up. The poison didn't immediately kill him.
@Fuzzmo147
@Fuzzmo147 20 дней назад
When she tried to use the force to get Pip, she couldn’t do it.
@zeno6111753
@zeno6111753 18 дней назад
I think you're giving these fan fiction writers too much credit ;)
@stonewallstarwarslover5742
@stonewallstarwarslover5742 20 дней назад
I think you could be right. When it shows them younger speaking to each other, they are 2 different people. They don't look like the same person.
@ianhenry1031
@ianhenry1031 20 дней назад
Wow Meg, awesome news update and really interesting in how you both think that one of them is dead and an alter ego, that makes the show even more interesting to watch more than once which I have done, wow thank thank you Meg and Star Wars Theory
@uberrod
@uberrod 20 дней назад
I don't know. Olega really points to two different people. Yord was watching Osha the entire time they were there. There was no time for her to have Torbin take the poison. Nor was there an opportunity for Osha to berak into see Torbin the first time as she was with the other Jedi on their ship. That right there, in my mind, shows there are two different people rather than one with multiple personalities.
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