The Adorkable Misogyny of The Big Bang Theory

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The Big Bang Theory provides a perfect lens through which to deconstruct a popular media trope I like to call the Adorkable Misogynist. Adorkable Misogynists are male characters whose geeky version of masculinity is framed as comically pathetic yet still endearing. Their status as nerdy “nice guys” then lets them off the hook for a wide range of creepy, entitled, and sexist behaviors.
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@CristalianaIvor 5 лет назад

"Geeky Guys can be sexist, too" well, every girl who plays online Games can agree to that.

@Hardcore_Drug_Abuse95 День назад

The kind of abuse that gets beamed at women on mics is fucking crazy.

@arianalarios6801 2 года назад

The episode where Penny finally calls him out on his sexual harassment always made me, as a woman, feel so uncomfortable. The fact that they guilt-tripped her into apologizing did not make sense to me at all.

@paolacintron6200 23 дня назад

I agree. I honestly thought that her Penny calling him out to his awful bs would finally make him see how horrible of a person he is and change!

@FlorenceBlack73 День назад

I knoooow, y todavía él es la victima y ella se tiene qué disculpar , como por???

@MissVerdine 6 лет назад

Additionally, Amy and Bernadette have PhD's as well. Rarely are they referred to as Dr. on the show as the guys are.

@phchik 2 года назад

I once saw a quote “Sheldon loves Spock, but Spock would really despise Sheldon for his prejudices” and I think that’s brilliant

@ArtemisScribe 6 лет назад

"On television men's feelings and men's egos are nearly always depicted as more important than women's comfort or women's safety" And there it is everybody, that's the kicker right there.

@Vishnuk-fe9iv 9 дней назад

Pretty sure it's the other way around.

@Bubbles603 2 дня назад

@@Vishnuk-fe9ivno it’s not

@bahahanope 6 лет назад

My best friend is an engineering major and one of 4 women in her intro to mechanical engineering lecture. First day of class, she walks in and sits down. The guy next to her says "You know this is an engineering lecture, right? Do you need help finding the right lecture hall?"... So yes, the misogyny in this show is very real and thriving. And making light of it with overdone jokes and subpar comedy is not helping anyone. TBBT has been trash since the beginning, I truly don't understand how it ever took off.

@NickonPlanetRipple 6 лет назад

It told creepy guys that their bad behavior is permissible. It told them what they wanted to hear.

@Vishnuk-fe9iv 9 дней назад

How is that mysogny? That Guy was helping her. The same goes for Men.

@foxesofautumn 2 дня назад

… he was not helping her. He was questioning why she was there, in an engineering lecture hall.

@juanarocha8629 3 года назад

If you remove the laugh track, They're very awkward and unfunny

@ot1438 Месяц назад

The show is trash, but obviously removing the laugh track would totally ruin the comedic timing and make it awkward.. there are plenty of valid critiques without resorting to cheap oh it had a laugh track nonsense

@flaviademarcos 5 лет назад

It's so nice that a man is doing a video like this, but also sad it's the only way most people would validate the criticism

@Twinkletoes7300 6 лет назад

I'm so glad a man brought attention to this issue as I think that a woman would have been criticised for being "overly-sensitive" or a "feminazi". It's a shame that when it comes to talking gender equality, men are commonly taken a lot more seriously when voicing their opinions about it. Great video!

@NickonPlanetRipple 6 лет назад

You might not see it here now that he's able to moderate comments, but there used to be loads of vicious dudebros taking over the comment sections, deeming him a "cuck" or "fag" or other bigoted language for being over-sensitive himself and daring not to fall in line with what they think a man should stand for. He is getting traction, but there was some strong resistance leading to where he is now. But maybe this was a special case, I dunno.

@Shorty_Lickens 23 дня назад

Its a very unfunny show on top of being sexist, but if you point out either failing you're going to be attacked online, by the same type of guys they were portraying ON the show, which actually makes sense.

@Vishnuk-fe9iv 9 дней назад

Wrong. No woman is shamed for showing the issues which is sexist. People calls her feminazi when she twists it and try to paint Men bad.

@roguecodes 6 лет назад

To add to your list of nerdy male characters who aren't sexist- Tom Holland's Spider-Man was a really good depiction of a movie character like that

@Eilowyn 6 лет назад

Excellent addition to the list! I think Jonathan was working on this before Homecoming came out, but Holland's Peter Parker is right up there with Abed and Ben Wyatt in my book.

@Supernaturlisch 6 лет назад

Could you elaborate? Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Tom Holland's take on Peter Parker, so I'd just like to add a bit more to love about the movie!

@TheNetherlandDwarf 6 лет назад

I dunno, I had someone who hated it because of that one bit at the start where they're crushing on the girl and talking about her sweater.

@Emma-iy8nn 4 года назад

“On television men’s feelings and bruised egos are nearly always depicted as more important than women’s comfort or women’s safety.” just had to reiterate that

@fishbonesinc 6 лет назад

I feel sorry for you. Based on the clips you used, it seems like you actually had to sit through multiple seasons of this show. I hope you made it out okay. Get well soon.

@PopCultureDetective 6 лет назад

I watched all 230 episodes....twice. It was not fun.

@Fanimati0n 5 лет назад

Okay, I never saw that clip of him calling Marie Curie an "honorary man" before. That was... That was something.

@ollivergalaxy6785 6 лет назад

"nerds" are just as hyper-masculine as "jocks". They actively make a point of excluding women from typically nerdy activities and women are constantly being told to "prove" that they're a "real nerd/fan" . Why can't we just let people enjoy things?

@prettyfuldancingirl 6 лет назад

I personally never saw the "Heart of gold" in Howard. He's just creepy.

@yilvoxe4017 6 лет назад

This is so wonderful. There's no way a woman doing this video wouldn't have been dismissed for being a "feminazi" or told to "shut up". It almost makes me cry that there really are men out there who care enough to say these things. I've been a girl in the geek world since I was very little and I've seen all of this. Casual misogyny cannot be allowed to stand and we need men like you to say it. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

@hannahsweens5829 6 лет назад

I feel bad for Mayim Bialik, she's a part of the backbone of the show. She's a neuroscientist and fact checks all of the formulas etc written on white boards in the show but her character is completely bashed all the time. The show acknowledges Sheldon turning down Amy because he "doesn't know how relationships work" but when Amy says no to Sheldon or she needs space he stalks her. Seriously what the ever loving fuck is wrong with this show.

@owend9050 2 года назад

women on this show are ONLY there to be viewed romantically. as soon as a women arrives, whoever they are, they automatically have to be a love interest to one of the guys and I found that to be a problem. like, women aren't just objects made to be beautiful for men, they can contribute to society just as much as men can. also, when sheldon said that madam curie was an "honorary man" it was almost as like they had to consider her male to respect her. disgusting. now I'm 12 years old, and I know better than that.

@minnie6598 6 лет назад

I used to love TBBT. But all of this is correct. And I can’t believe I had felt sorry for Howard when Penny called him out for being ’pathetic and creepy’. And then SHE apologised?!! The whole show is yucky...

@glenmurie 6 лет назад

As a father of girls who share my passion for video games, comics, and science fiction who felt themselves pushed away from the lunchroom 'nerd table' as the boys started getting 'creepy' (their word) this whole video filled me with rage at the toxic way women are portrayed in media. I never bothered watching more than bits and pieces of that show, and all of them were awful. Thank you for pouring that filth into your brain, Pop Culture Detective, so that we don't have to.

@melaniepedersen3750 6 лет назад

i stopped watching this show when penny finally called out howard's creepy behavior and then he got depressed the entire episode, until penny apologised to him

@JulianneFreytag 3 года назад

"honorary man". That makes me so sad. The struggle that women had to go through. What a shitty thing to say :(

@fizzfizzbang 6 лет назад

As a female who was or is frequently the only one present in a comic store, magic tournament, d&d campaign, board game night at a cafe, or any online gaming group...I heartily agree with all of this. I especially love how nerd boys still try to make me prove my credentials when I've literally been gaming longer than they've been alive (I'm 35). You should hear it on Overwatch voice coms when I make callouts. Everything stops and you hear "Grill? Is that a grill??"

@cocos.9730 6 лет назад

I thought I was too sensitive when I thought they are all creepy. Especially in the case of Sheldon who seems to despise women to a point I am surprised that he is in a relationship.

@afragilebird6209 6 лет назад

It's so nice to hear men standing up for women

@addangel 6 лет назад

Thank you! I'm so tired of the "nice guy" stereotype, endlessly complaining about being friend zoned as though women owed them something in return for not being assholes.

@SarahC-lb9ux 3 года назад

As a woman in STEM I feel this every day from my colleagues.

@latentspacex 6 лет назад

i always felt strangely repelled by this tv show's humour, and you made me realise what I couldn't

@ot1438 Месяц назад

You should try thinking about things

@jazwaz112 6 лет назад

"acknowledging bigotry is not the same thing as critiquing bigotry" PUT THIS ON A BILLBOARD

@Fusilier7 2 года назад

I have autism, and I frequently get compared to Sheldon. Unlike Sheldon, I am bad at math, but I am good at history and literature; I do not say inappropriate things to people, in fact I do not say anything at all; I may have immature behaviour, but I do not display this behaviour to anyone; Sheldon is aloof to his own actions and words, but I am very aware of how actions and words affect people, and Sheldon does not appear to have sensory overload, which happens to me all the time. But people still believe Sheldon is a good example of how neurodivergents are, so I just want to say, if you think Big Bang Theory can teach you about the basics of neurodivergent people, turn off the TV and try meeting real us as people.

@kirstiecampbell4000 4 года назад

Come to think of it, the guy who essentially sexually assaulted me always threw pity parties about how he wasn't like "other guys."

@knogne5073 Год назад

I just know that the writers thought that that Marie Curie line was throwing us women a bone, when all it essentially tells women is that the only way you can be respected by men is to be considered a man. I know I've had that feeling in my life since I was 4 years old, it's the reason why "pick me girls" exist.

@elfwineeomerson 6 лет назад

when a nerdy guy gets rejected they always think its because theyre nerdy but most of the time it's because they're like these guys^^^ and don't think sexism is that bad

@genneth4986 6 лет назад

God i hate that laugh track

@9_in_the_afternoon 6 лет назад

Genneth It's a live audience, not a track. Still annoying though.

@morganward2361 5 лет назад

The most eye opening part of this video for me was your analysis of Leonard. I realized that I know so many Leonards. So many people who won’t challenge the misogyny I experience in life. So many “nice guys”. What’s even worse is realizing that *I* can be a Leonard. It’s so easy to roll my eyes and to just play off jokes as just that. It can be exhausting. I guess I just have to do better. Call out what I see and challenge what I experience.

@TheDude90100 3 года назад

I actually threw up in my mouth when he called Marie Curie an "honorary man". What a fascinating insight into the vile mind of Chuck Lorre, who basically does this stuff in all of his shows.

@Pippis78 3 года назад

Even without the sexism the show's humour is constantly really mean. They just say mean oneliners to each other and that's the whole show. Even the geek culture references are really superficial.

@ashestodust9483 3 года назад

They also never apologize. They state that it's racist or sexist but never apologize.

@l.pietrobon3925 4 года назад

For a video that has the word "Misogyny" in the title, it has a surprisingly tame comment section.

@theycallmemagic 6 лет назад

Jesus christ the "honorary man/penis made of science" is the most objectively sexist and offensive joke ive heard in awhile

@NickonPlanetRipple 6 лет назад

"The trouble isn't with me, it's with your gender." That line says it all, doesn't it? These garbage movies and sitcoms push this idea that the reason these guys can't catch a break isn't because they're total clods with bad (yes, BAD) personalities, but because the women rejecting them are just being unreasonable. Surely, if only these women knew well enough to "get off their high horse" they'd lower their "impossible" standards and settle for these chums because they deserve it somehow. "Nonono, HEEEE shouldn't have to change his behavior at all! He shouldn't be expected to improve himself! It's those nasty women being too demanding! They should be happy just to get the attention!" It paints a hopeless future for geeks by portraying them as incapable of ever "getting the girl" through less than nefarious means. Like there's just NO WAY they could ever get someone interested in them without having to TRICK the girl by appearing to be someone they're not, so $%#& it, right? Then she'll see what she's been missing out on! Blegh. As an autistic person, it also pisses me off that people try to blame the more harmful aspects of characters like Sheldon on his autism, as if he just can't help himself so he should get a free pass. Because hey, if he wasn't autistic he wouldn't act this way, right? I'm sure that's the entire cause of all his many many problems. It just makes people like me look bad. And now they're making an entire series dedicated to his childhood, and whatever made him the way he is. DEAR GOD PLEASE NO.

@dragonetafireball 6 лет назад

Nick on Planet Ripple I have Asperger's but since I'm female no one believes me. And I'm asexual but people think I'm picky and it might be a religious thing.

@alarcon99 6 лет назад

Hey Nick? Thank you for your words and restoring a bit of my hope in humanity.

@NickonPlanetRipple 6 лет назад

"it's okay to be asexual as long as you still have sex and aren't sex-repulsed" Yeah, that line was clearly written by someone who isn't ace. It just panders to non-ace peoples' insecurities. Nobody likes the idea of a partner being physically "repulsed" by them. It's a reversal of "You just want me for my body." In this case it's like "You only like me for my mind!" I'm not ace, so I... don't feel I have the standing to say any more about ace peoples' experiences. But I will say autistic characters being ace a lot of the time is just creating another stereotype that autists are inherently asexual beings with no physical desires. It's just used as another way to make us sound like defective, unfeeling robots, to dehumanize us and justify treating us badly. I'm not saying that doesn't happen to ace people, just to be clear, but it's so easy to compound it with autism as if they're two symptoms of the same "sickness." A lot of the time we might just not be open about our sexuality because we don't know how to go about it or if potential partners would even accept us that way, and that anxiety makes it awkward.

@Blakmagic88 6 лет назад

Nick on Planet Ripple This was a brilliant post!!

@NickonPlanetRipple 6 лет назад

I think it's because most humans are terrified of being alone and the idea of never getting physically intimate is a form of loneliness, like it's a requirement to do it or "You haven't really lived." I think it's mostly an evolutionary thing, that mammals are built to seek physical contact in various forms. It's why animals love being petted or nuzzling each other. It's not strictly a sexual thing, just something that incentivizes some mammals to form groups, and we're very social animals. But us humans... we just have weird hangups those other animals don't. And ooooohhh you bet we are infantilized. I'm sure you've noticed in most of these stories, there's ONE SPECIAL THING the character is really good at or knowledgeable of, but they're completely incapable when it comes to everything else. It's a cute basic story where they get to show everyone what they're made of, but it's so played out and overdone it's become the face of autism. People expect us to have some secret super power and act disappointed when they find out we don't. It's like "Oh sure, Timmy may be a screw up in general, but at least he can count faster than a computer! THAT'S where his value comes from! It's his redeeming quality!" basically it makes it look like that's all we're good for, and if we don't have a talent or quirk like that to make us stand out, we're worthless to society. Just a useless lump that can't even do the one special magic trick right. Another thing is we're usually portrayed as... weirdly angelic. It's not very often you see an autistic character who's realistically capable of being an asshole, and the times you DO see an autistic jerk, it's someone like Sheldon. Clumsy portrayals such as these just make it look like those bad qualities come from the autism, like he's only a jerk because he's atypical.

@ToyKnives 6 лет назад

In the end video, Jonathan looks like he had a mental breakdown after watching hours of BBT

@Eilowyn 6 лет назад

I wouldn't blame him if he did. Thank you, good sir, for watching all that crap so we don't have to.

@Madallen2002 16 дней назад

I love that show.

@deeptootie 6 лет назад

it’s interesting to me how mayim bialik is an advocate for feminism and a very intelligent woman but still supports and works for a show that’s so blatantly misogynistic

@harrypotterfantng 6 лет назад

YES! You hit the nail right on the head with this video. Another thing about BBT that bothers me and wasn't really touched on in this video is its incorrect assumption that all women are uninterested in "nerd stuff." Whenever one of the girls walks into a comic store it's like the men in there have never seen a woman before in their lives. Whenever the guys talk about Star Trek, Doctor Who, Star Wars or something similar the girls are always completely disinterested and dismissive. It's fine to have a couple female characters be uninterested in nerdy things, but to present every woman in the world as being clueless to, say, the difference between Star Trek and Star Wars is absurd and ridiculous.

@KrazyKain 6 лет назад

really goes to show how our culture feeds the "nice guy" syndrome so many guys have where they feel a woman owes them a relationship after they've been friends for so long. You can't be a 'Chad' if you're a nerd right?

@gweng3858 6 лет назад

One of my old friends was a nerdy guy, and he tried to date me multiple times. At one point he asked me for nudes while I had a boyfriend then tried to rape me. But when I was angry at him and stopped being friends with him everyone was mad at me cause he didn't know what he was doing. Now whenever any guy tries to touch me in any way I flinch because of him. But everyone said I should have just let him cause he doesn't get much

@minervajeanlupin8755 6 лет назад

This is disgusting, I can't believe I never noticed this before

@miniskrrt1506 6 лет назад

Its funny cause in the Pilot episode pitching the show it actually had a girl geek in place of Rajh and Howard, which means they actively replaced her

@Carols989 6 лет назад

as a person who is majoring in a "nerdy" field i can assure you their sexism is very, very real and normalized. things are changing (half of the class is made of very open minded and chill people) but the other half is... well, let's just say our vacations just ended and we already have a racism scandal

@adamshay3767 6 лет назад

You could also add Jake Peralta from B99 to the list. He's not as nerdy as the males from BBT, and he has stuffed up, but the main difference is that B99 calls attention to it, and doesn't let him get away with his mistakes. Jake learns, and is actually a nerdy guy who's super nice, and pretty much the ideal. He calls out people for their bigotry and apologises when he is called out himself.

@pineappleagent1 6 лет назад

I got so uncomfortable while watching 16 Candles for the first time. My mom had talked me into watching it with her and she only realized how creepy it was when I pointed it out.

@jizzystardust9456 3 года назад

It just doesn't hurt women, it hurts us all. Sexism, like all isms are detrimental to the whole society. Btw thanks for making this video.

@the21stturtle 6 лет назад

As an autistic woman, Sheldon's behaviour bothers me the most; you can't use social disabilities as an excuse to say bigoted things

@Elliebellisima 6 лет назад

Receipts everywhere.

@lialia2268 2 года назад

I typed in “Big Bang theory cringe” looking to laugh at the bad jokes but this was just… so much worse. As a woman, I’m kind of embarrassed that I didn’t notice the harassment and assault in these shows that star “nerds”. This was very awakening

@updown8048 6 лет назад

I literally cannot watch big bang theory because it reminds me so much of my old roommates boyfriend and his friends/roommates. They were so rude, dismissive and downright disrespectful. I remember we all watched a movie and I didn't think it was particularly funny and they all went off on how low my IQ was because I read Twilight when I was 14 and all I actually paid attention to was how nice my eyeliner looked and they constantly compared themselves to Big Bang Theory. They treated my other roommate like shit too, constantly making allusions to her intellect and her being a blonde. They only took my roommate, his gf (who mostly nerded out for HIS benefit) and our other roommate who placated them by essentially asking them to mansplain everything, seriously. It was like every time I opened my mouth they were hell-bent on proving me wrong or why I wasn't as correct as I thought I was. Anytime I brought up something remotely dealing with clothes, cosmetics, or vanity I was immediately labelled VAPID...needless to say, I didn't live with those roommates too much longer...

@hannahsweens5829 6 лет назад

"hey guys, I'm a sexist and pretty racist too but I'm geeky and nerdy and don't know how to socialize so who cares lol" is basically the entire fucking show

@cristinar9447 6 лет назад

"On television men's feelings and bruised egos are nearly always decipted as more important than women's comfort or women's safety" -YES, thank you. I'll admit that I've been a big TBBT fan because even though there are many jokes that annoy me (every single storyline regarding Howard's unwillingness to do house chores or the human resources lady to name a few) others really make me laugh. But I'm sure that if I were in a position where I had to face that kind of behaviour in real life I wouldn't find this show funny at all. You've really made me rethink what should be condemned in movies and TV and now I'm going to stop watching. Also, this video had me thinking of that quote in The Social Network "you are going to go through life thinking girls don't like you cause you're a nerd. And I want you to know from the bottom of my heart, that that won't be true. It'll be because, you're an asshole."

@MetallicAddict15 6 лет назад

Having watched the first three seasons of TBBT without remembering seeing any blatant misogyny, I went into this video thinking "not another SJW whining about nothing". But wow, did you change my mind. I guess the sexist comments flew under my radar because they're more sprinkled in occasionally and since it's lovable nerds saying it, you don't really pay that much attention to it, but seeing it all in a row now, it's actually quite disturbing. Good job on this video!

@cloverbun2574 6 лет назад

Can this guy please make a video about the Breaking Bad community's constant hate toward the main female character because she was 'annoying', while also sympathizing with the male lead because 'he had his reasons'? I feel like he'd hit the nail right on the head.

@letsHugElefanten 6 лет назад

I always hated that Penny ended up apologising to Howard after she called him out on his behaviour, I don't watch TBBT anymore because I don't really like the characters however I never thought about the sexism in the show that much, this really was an eye-opener, thank you!

@fdj4601 6 лет назад

DRAG👏THEM👏

@ak0372 6 лет назад

Fan girls of all things geeky have learned to mask their fandom because of the way male geeks behave towards them. This is spot on.

@Sara-mg3cg 5 лет назад

The series is basically r/iamverysmart and r/niceguys combined

@stiches6749 6 лет назад

I work at a comic book store. I don't get any of the blatant sexism, or weird looks. I get more "fake gamer" comments. I am female, I can't also be a nerd... unless I am an UBER NERD who knows ALL the things!

@ene4731 6 лет назад

I know this is besides the point but now I realize why I love Ben Wyatt so much. He manages to be a complete dork with his quirks (like his affinity for calzones) WITHOUT being a creep. He respected Leslie from the moment they began to form a friendship, even poking fun at men who absolutely require their fiances to take their soon-to-be husbands name on the night of his and Leslie's wedding. He's my all time favorite character from anything I've ever seen and I wish more nerdy guy characters could be like him.

@Halberd45 6 лет назад

As a fangirl and nerd it is always disappointing to watch shows where I am automatically othered or treated as fictional.

@loonachan 6 лет назад

I would never be able to watch enough of the Big Bang Theory to put together a video like this.

@deseretgear9425 6 лет назад

I loved the analysis on how lampshading doesn't actually fix the problem. Also this kind of trope is why I hate characters like mineta from bnha

@Emily-ce7hd 6 лет назад

I hadn't really watched BBT much before, but I find it interesting that the actress who plays Amy is a very outspoken feminist, speaking about how men should refrain from referring to women as "girls" for example, yet hasn't spoken out about the show.

@boudoirmusic 6 лет назад

Summed up everything I hate about this show. I love that you show alternative ways to write this character at the end. We do need to retire these tropes.

@PopCultureDetective 6 лет назад

There've been dozens of comments left by people saying they agree with my essay but they question the inclusion of the Google Memo clip at the end. James Damore's memo is a bit of slight-of-hand but it is indeed based on sexist assumptions that are not backed up by science. The way he twists and misrepresents gender differences data is subtle to the untrained eye but the huge logical leaps and unfounded conclusions he draws are dangerous. Even the authors of the papers he cites in the memo disagree with his conclusions. You can read about the real science here: www.wired.com/story/the-pernicious-science-of-james-damores-google-memo And more here: medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so-about-this-googlers-manifesto-1e3773ed1788

@rizandro 6 лет назад

Great video, but I wish you would have included Moss from the IT Crowd in your last examples, magnificently played by Richard Ayoade. By the way, if you haven´t seen the IT Crowd, go and see it now! Straightaway!

@xmarijeeemj 6 лет назад

Fucking love the IT crowd!

@rory5167 6 лет назад

i was going to initially disagree with what you were saying but then i started to imagine the 'jokes' without laughing at the end and now i really see where you're coming from because without the laughing it's just sexist

@Toshimi1043 6 лет назад

Even with the laugh track, at some point it starts to sound like the same sound clip is being used multiple times. It's obviously canned laughter, and you know that's the show trying to tell you that you should be laughing along instead of thinking about it and deciding for yourself whether the joke is funny.

@praiseafork4791 6 лет назад

Hana ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OjthQKzX88g.html There are compilation videos to that effect. It paints a totally different picture.

@TheNinetySecond 6 лет назад

There are, IIRC, quite a few videos of "Big Bang Theory without laugh track" on RU-vid. Those really hammer the point home. The show is not very funny, and the humor is almost completely based on things that are bigoted in some way.

@NickonPlanetRipple 6 лет назад

Oh my word, have you seen the clips people have posted on youtube with the laugh track removed? It is the most uncomfortable thing. If people made these long, forced pauses during conversation in real life, it would be unbearably tense, but they do it all these time in these dumb shows because they're not that funny at all and need to order the audience to laugh at nothing. And yeah, it pulls the wool from people's eyes and makes the sexism harder to ignore.

@HalcyonVoid 6 лет назад

Imagine a stand-up comic without the laughing. Same thing.

@algi1 6 лет назад

As someone who, as a kid, was good with computers, has been playing RPGs and video games, I always hated how geeks are depicted in TV and movies. Why can't they just behave normally? Why does expertise or being part of a fandom, or even social awkwardness has to mean they can't behave in a socially accepted way? Seriously, even being socially awkward doesn't mean that a person has to behave in scandallous manner. It mostly just means less social interactions initiated, nothing dramatic.

@divyaa4459 9 месяцев назад

The fact that they made penny apologize was disgusting.

@sara5angle Год назад

As a woman I never even noticed this which is perhaps worse than noticing it. I’ve become so accustomed to hearing these kinds of things in the real world that I’ve become blind to it.

@TheSummelBaerli 6 лет назад

Thank you so much for including Ben and Abed as counter examples to how nerds can be written without those awful underlying tones of misogyny! Ben was so supportive of Leslie and their relationship was truly beautiful. And Abed is a bit like Sheldon in the way that they seem to have some sort of autism. But with Abed it is never mean spirited and especially his relationship with Annie was just wonderfully depicted. And when he went too far, he was always called out on his behaviour. Also both Parks&Rec and Community were smart, but also laugh-out-loud comedies which can't be said about TBBT. Thank you so much for this essay!

@Cathar5i5 6 лет назад

That's the worst part of nerdy guys turned bullies, they'll always feel like they're the ones being attacked

@nishattasnim6337 2 года назад

I don't know if you all remember the time when penny had to apologise to howard because she protested against Howard's misbehaviour towards her. I really didn't understand what was the writer eating before writing this script. Lol. Total hypocrisy.

@Tianyulong 6 лет назад

Jesus, I'd heard "Revenge Of The Nerds" was bad, but I didn't realise it was that bad. Ewww

@NotAnotherKuromi 6 лет назад

I was never confused as to how Raj & Howard didn't manage to get girlfriends but how the heck they managed to get any girl to like them considering their behaviour, attitudes & apparent unwillingness to change.

@Citronid2010 6 лет назад

Is the first time I watch a video on youtube talking about Misogyny and I am agree with everything, I never had thought about the "adorable nerd" un til today and I am 100% agree. Excellent video!

@tubes17 6 лет назад

RU-vid would not leave me the fuck alone until I watched this.

@leahandtabi1 6 лет назад

never liked BBT in the first place and that "penis made of science" comment really solidified it for me

@steampunk5123 6 лет назад

Other than Sheldon's casual sexism, none of this ever bothered me that much. What bothered me was that they made the women all "anti geek" how they treated geeky things as stupid. As a geeky girl it bothered me that none of the women (especially the attractive ones) were interested in the same stuff as the guys and would constantly put them down for the stuff they liked. As if only geeky men exist.

@JonAddisonFilms 6 лет назад

This is so fucking on point.

@XPursuitOfEpicnessX 6 лет назад

I mean wasn't this writer also the writer of Two and a Half Men? That was pretty damn sexist too, not surprised.

@AGothNamedWednessday 6 лет назад

I am very disappointed in myself for not seeing this trope earlier, and excusing real life experiences that are like this in the past. I really wish this was talked about more.

@aiela 6 лет назад

Shit I never noticed this. How is that possible? Now I'm kinda disturbed...

@katiestolealltheunicorns9309 6 лет назад

I also hate the way the women aren't allowed to be interested in 'geeky' media in the same way. There are girls who really love Star Trek (just one tip-of-the-iceberg example) and all sorts of culture that people find nerdy; but even Amy and Bernadette roll their eyes and are like 'stop having fun guys' as though geek culture is only a male thing. I worry that the Big Bang Theory guys would have been gamergaters....

@Paulafan5 6 лет назад

Bernadette isn't a geek and Amy is a scientist. There have been other women into "geeky" media that appeared here and there, but if their love interests were exactly like them, it wouldn't be interesting. It's not "women can't be geeky", it's "opposites attract".

@NathanielJordan85 6 лет назад

This well articulates a lot of what makes me uncomfortable with and contemptuous towards this show.

@Kat-tq6tm 3 года назад

I always found howard so gross but the others aren't too much better. I mean leonard I did like because he was the best one out of the group but he would be better off with a different group of friends who can make his confidence grow enough so he feels he can say "no this is wrong" and actually have his friends listen to his advice.

@yoXneo 6 лет назад

Yes! Completely agree! I'm into geeky stuff, but I've always wondered why so many guys, who want women to like them, start calling girls "fake" for liking what they're into. I never understood it, why would you hate someone for liking the same thing you're into, especially if you're attracted to them?! Why not welcome it and have a good time? That's totally backwards....great video! 🤓

@MJ-cq6gz 6 лет назад

They also wrote in controlling mothers as the causes of their creepy behaviors. They did the same thing in Two and a Half Men.

@NickonPlanetRipple 6 лет назад

I think one of the writers also worked on Two and a Half Men. The guy must have serious issues with his own mother to keep injecting that into his work. Yikes.

@aiberlane3390 6 лет назад

Another nerd portrayed respectfully? Brick Heck on The Middle. I'm a few seasons behind, but unless things have changed, he's still a good guy who just struggles in social situations.

@aniluvswesties 6 лет назад

Oh my god. A man who understands how serious sexism is. I love this channel. Thank you so much.

@OblivionHelena 6 лет назад

Oh my God Sheldon calling Marie Curie an "honorary man" had me fucking disgusted.

@AMoniqueOcampo 6 лет назад

I hate BBT so much. There is a way to do nerdy comedy without everyone being stereotypes. Thank you for making this video.

@Zukooooooooo 6 лет назад

but like, the sexism too. like the point of this video isnt that tbbt is bad because they're stereotypical nerds, it's bad because they're raging misogynists

@youtube79z 6 лет назад

Stereotypes make the writers jobs easier. Millions tune in to lazy written show, there is no incentive for them to change.

@Greymetaphor 6 лет назад

I'm about to say Community as an example but then it's mentioned in the video itself :)

@toomuchinformation 3 года назад

I never watched the show. I caught small snippets while remote surfing, but I did gauge the racism towards the Indian guy.

@paapersen Год назад

As a younger kid, growing up I never understood why people hated the show. I enjoyed the irony but looking back I understand and disappointed about a show I grew up loving.