Just got my Agpeya from the Mail today. Boy this is the ultimate prayer book, I'll use it so much this lent, even if English is not my first language, praying with this book is beautiful. Thanks for this awesome review.
Great review, the only thing I would add is what my Father Confessor told me, that if you do not have time to read all the Psalms (time wise this can be intimidating) , you can read at least three of the Psalms in each hour daily and within the week you will have moved through all The Psalms. I am not certain as to whether the Psalm translations came from The Masoretic translations or The Septuagint, but I can't wait to look into it as I try to use The Agpeya on a daily basis.
I've always wished someone somewhere would make an agpeya in the format and quality similar to New Rome Press' small prayer books (Orthodox Prayer Book, Light of The World). I would take it everywhere.
The Coptic monastic office historically required that they read through the whole psalter daily. Our Byzantine tradition is much lighter, we read through the psalter once a week.
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The maronite office oddly enough doesn't go through the psalter, neither does the mozarabic. In the maronite tradition however there is a tradition of hermits going through all the psalms as a separate thing
Cool intro! All I really know about the Agpeya is from praying it (and hearing it chanted on the app!), so it's good to have some context! I, too, am a sucker for the velvety cover of the "little brown" 😅, and -- best. icons. ever.
This channel rocks! I know it's a bit niche, but I love prayer books, books of hours, etc. I was so hoping you would do a video on the Agpeya. I've been binging and thoroughly enjoying your videos. Did you happen to go through the Book of Hours from Holy Transfiguration Monastery? I tried to follow that when I had first become Orthodox and couldn't make heads or tails out of how to use it. Which felt a little silly. Anyway, thanks for what you do. I love these videos and you are doing a wonderful thing. God bless!
@@OrthodoxReview Cool deal! What you're doing here is so informative, humble, and accessible. I love the knowledge of Western Rite. Ideally one day, I'd like to be part of that. I love the different flavors of Orthodoxy, but I am interested in experiencing liturgy, private devotions, etc., in the same way that pre schism churches in the west did it. I always loved the quote from St. John of Shanghai and San Francisco when he said you do not have to be eastern to be Orthodox. I love the East, but I am a product of the West and I'd love to be able to reclaim that knowledge and those liturgies. I've heard a Gallican liturgy all the way through and it is glorious. I'd like to be able to know that I am worshiping like my Patron Saint (Kevin of Glendalough) did. If you can't find a copy of the book or if loot is tight (with the pandemic, etc) let me know and I'll send you my copy to check out.
@@OrthodoxReview www.britannica.com/topic/divine-office Is a fine place to start. The assertion that the Orthodox and Roman offices are dependent on the modern form of the Agpeya is also just kind of a crazy claim that would actually revolutionize liturgical study if it were true. We know that the monastic practice of praying and reciting psalms at certain hours of the day has its root in Jewish temple practice - there's no reason to think that the Roman office needs to be dependent on the Coptic just to get access to that much more ancient and well-known practice. You also make this odd claim that bc the Benedictine office includes variable parts it must be more recent - St Benedict's office was not the first office in the West, his office is dependent on the Roman office which had already existed for some time, we know his office is neither original nor the most ancient office in the West. There's also an odd assumption here that the Agpeya has not changed, but you kind of describe it as a more or less direct extension of St Anthony's private rule. This is silly. We know that the Agpeya has been revised and shifted over the years (as a quick proof: they use the term Theotokos, which is a relatively modern theological word), as have the Roman, Constantinopolitan, Benedictine, etc. And this seems to be the norm. Most every monastery in antiquity (and today, tbf) would have had its own rule, and gradually certain rules became more popular, were added to, reformed, etc, until we have the modern forms. We can't trace this development precisely, but we know there's no direct dependencies (except in obvious cases like all the Western offices being dependent on the ancient Roman office, but where that came from is anyone's guess) The various forms of the office all have a common root in Jewish temple practice, and we know certain local exchanges happen (this is why the Agpeya and the Constantinopolitan office look so similar), but it's not like there's a straightforward family tree. All the forms have their own complex histories, and these already complex histories are complicated even more by crossover (eg: a monk travels to Jerusalem for a pilgrimage, and really likes what they do there, so he introduces it at his monastery)
@@jyork1001 your post is full of interesting information. I take it you are somewhat of a liturgical scholar and historian? Very good point re crossover/cross-pollination this was very common amongst all traditions long after the various schisms
@@TheCopticParabolanos If one wants a scholarly treatment on the subject, I recommend "The Liturgy of the Hours in East and West" by Robert Taft, S.J. The book is still in print, although there is no Kindle version.
Looking forward to this. My parish isn't Coptic, but being Antiochian (with a fairly strong Arab cultural history), it's sort of "next door". A couple of years ago, when I was looking for prayers of the hours to listen to and not have to read -- but more complete than the (lovely, but brief) versions on Ancient Faith, (I drive a lot!) I found an "Agpeya" phone app with full-length prayers, but no English (nor, of course, but sadly, Spanish, which I also speak 😅)! It's a great app -- I knew nothing about the schedule differences then, so I deciphered the Arabic titles by matching the script to the (multilingual) "Coptic Reader" app I had already downloaded (did I mention I am both a big Church 🤓 AND a big language 🤓?!). Your channel inspired my Lenten/Paschal quest to complete the personal prayer book library -- basically fulfilled, now. That brown title to the R on your desktop was an unexpected find in my online stay-@-home searching, but I was glad to add it to the list! Glad you are introducing Orthodox land to these guys! 😁
Right on! I've found a few Coptic apps worth looking at, since I just recently started studying the tradition. Coptic Reader is an epic app, and, so far, my favorite. I'm so glad you're enjoying the content. These comment conversations make it all worthwhile.
@@OrthodoxReview I'm glad to see people writing in! I always love seeing other comments, as well. Anyone with a lovely sleek cat should venture into Egyptian Church tradition.... Hi, Spooky.... 😽
@@yoadaadaoy1338 Eastern Orthodox. (Sounds like it should be the same as Oriental, but no....) Local church is Antioch -- "local" is relative in Orthodoxy! 🙏🕯️☦️
