The Ancient Minoans-The Inspiration for Atlantis 

The first portrait looked rather like me when much younger!!

Well... If they say that at the University, must be true then.

@@panagiotisconstantinou would you like me to link a source?

Yes, that's also the way I understood it too. A similar style for younger people can be seen in Egyptian frescoes, and Chinese and Japanese illustrations. What's up with the channel author being so defensive?

It might have been to prevent lice in the hair..

So women had fully shaved heads with just pony tails and a little weird front bang unicorn thing? Damn lol. And yeah, they were very defensive, but they put a lot of work into this, & I'm sure they felt maybe bad about not seeing it? Idk. Be kind.

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Minoan culture should have been called Afro-Meditranean culture

@@moorishsociety7339 why? There is actually a lot of blonde cretans too in south of crete.

​@@moorishsociety7339Why???

@@janeslater8004 They are recent immigrants from the north

Thank you for your kind words 🙂! I hope they like my observation about the blue knot cap.

@@panagiotisconstantinou sory but minoans was sea peoples from north africa phoenicians sanskriitic brothher of hitites aryans turkhis mix mitan brownie peoples not very white brownie is depicted even in wall of knosos palace

@@panagiotisconstantinou minoans phoenicians formed italy sicily rome french spain british island the bull is in spain and birmingham to new york sea peoples and other hittite phoenician on horses scityians iranians mix turcic and persians your greek sea people to from liban hitite egyptiian to north africa legacy

@@wolfhordes3841 the Turks arrived many many centuries later in the area. If the Minoans were Phoenicians, they'd have used the Phoenician writing system, but they didn't.

@@wolfhordes3841 you need to read history from the start

Well, the other people apparently didn't know about it. Maybe the Minoans didn't allow traders/potential military spies on their island. The appear to have ventured to Egypt, to Greece, Cyprus, maybe to pre Phoenicia Syria, the time of Ugarit, and Western Asia Minor, trading with places like Troy. Those folks would have had difficulty even reaching Crete in 1500 B.C. The Egyptians had the capability, maybe not the inclination to fight a major Naval war with the mighty Minoans. Pharoahs didn't want to lose battles and wars, it could lead to their undoing, they were supposed to be invincible divinities. The other people just didn't have the military strength, nor Naval power. So it might never have been known to anyone until the Mycenean's conquest. By then, maybe they thought it was UNNECESSARY. Just like the Romans had Steam power, and the tech to create steam machines, and the Ancient Egyptians apparently knew how to make chemical based batteries, yet the Romans did not have an "Industrial Revolution" Nor did the Egyptians create copper wiring and develop light bulbs with their tech, and have battery powered electric lighting, and develop the battery tech further. They may have just said, "impractical", "unnecessary". Then the individuals who knew how to construct the unique water piping system died off, and the knowledge was lost. The Romans developed the modern style of plumbing and sewer system because of Rome's unusual population, since their Empire had access to very talented people, the Ancient Greeks, the Middle Easterner's as well. Possibly the Minoan piping system was actually known in the Great Library if Alexandra, maybe that of the Indus Civilization as well. I have a terrible feeling that The Great Library had knowledge of the Minoans, maybe the Indus, and Elamite Civilizations that would make them understood today, language and culture alike, gone, with it's careless destruction by invaders. I'm almost certain such information about the Elamites, and Indus Civilization was in the great library of the last great Assyrian ruler Assurbanipal. He apparently had been raised to be a scholar, wasn't the designated heir, then the father died, the heir did also. When the dust lifted his brothers were dead and he was King. He apparently remained devoted to knowledge as he collected the written works of Mesopotamia of all the.previous millenia that he could find and put it in a great library in Nineveh. The Mesopotamians traded with and knew the Indus people, so too maybe knew about the Minoans as they were an important people in the Middle Bronze Age. We actually have a name for them other than "Minoan", the Ancient Egyptians called them "Keftiu". It's clear they traded with them, so, it's clear they had diplomatic relations with them. However, the Minoan state seems to have fallen before the time of Amenophis III, and his son Ahkenaten, the time when a lot more is known of the interactions between countries. It seems though, the great mainland Empires/states didn't view the Minoans or Myceneans as equals nor even on a par with Cyprus. Maybe that's because the Minoans allowed no outsiders to their Island or territories under their control. The mainland realms would have considered such an insult, and thus has less dealings with them. Cyprus wasn't under their control. That could have led to the Minoans undoing, when the Volcanic explosion happened, no one would lift a finger to help them, they had no allies to help them when the Myceneans recovered faster from the Natural Disaster and began military operations. Maybe the clue that explains why so little is known about them and how they fell so quickly was that they were unfriendly, had no allies, and had no help in the wake of the disaster, and were conquered by people who didn't like them either. Ancient Egypt, on the other hand, was also on the list of Civilizations who's language was unknown as recently as 200 years ago. However, they were repeatedly conquered by people who admired them and their culture, the Greeks and the Romans at the top of that list. So there was a Rosetta stone out there, since then other discoveries have been made that could have achieved a similar result. So Egyptian Civilization is more well known today.

The world that followed them, alas, was full of s--t in more ways than one.

@@jonathancummings6400 Thank you for putting your time and expertise into your post. Most interesting and educational I really enjoyed it !!!

@@marieheyes1911 Thank you maam. In the realms of Archaeology, Anthropology, Sociology, and History, the time of the Neolithic, Bronze Age Middle East, Eastern Mediterranean, and India, then the Iron Age period of the same, plus China and the Americas, Finally into the Late Antiquity, the Roman Empire, Middle East, India, China, their contemporaries in the Americas, and Africa, such as the Kingdom of Kush, Axum/Ethiopia, early Mali, I find more interesting than the more recent history of the past 1500 Years or so. I think it's because those people were "setting up", were building the foundations of our modern world. The Bronze Age peoples are especially interesting to me, I think because, they could have all collapsed like the Indus did, and they would have been like the legend of Atlantis, and there would be NO TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED CIVILIZATIONS. Think about it, both the Indus and Minoans had superior civic planning elements to their peers even the Mesopotamians and Egyptians were behind them in this area. With their collapse and the other peoples not learning or in the case of the Aryans with the Indus, and the Myceneans with the Minoans, apparently choosing to ignore the superior plumbing and city planning, as well as other architectural ideas, it could have disappeared. Only with the Romans with their cosmopolitan empire, which meant many brilliant peoples of different ethnicities could flourish in their realm, and they controlled places like the Library of Alexandria, were they able to city plan and create plumbing to equal the Indus people and Minoans. I mentioned the Library specifically for a reason, I believe in there was information regarding both the Minoans and Indus Civilization, that was lost with the destruction of that place. How so? Well, for a time the Hellenistic realms, after Alexander's amazing campaign, controlled territory that connected India to Western Europe. This was the Greeks "Golden Age", It was the best time in all of world history to be a literate high class Greek individual. If you could read and write the Greek language, all of the variants that existed at that time, and were wealthy and well connected, especially in Alexandria with it's library that your high status enabled you to have access to, all that power of knowledge of those peoples that had been written down since 3500 B.C. was accessible. This was almost certainly one reason why the Ptolemaic Egypt Greeks such as Hero of Alexandria were such successful inventors, when such a genius mind hit a sticking point, and he finds where some other genius actually in their quest solved that problem while attempting some other endeavor. That's the importance of a place like that. The last great King of Assyria, Assurbanipal had been raised to be a scholar not a king, so when he was king he used this power to gather up the thousands of years of Mesopotamian literature and other writings, and created a library at Nineveh, archaeologists found it's ruins and his efforts were not in vain, as modern fellow scholars know more about Ancient Mesopotamian culture directly due to his efforts. Well, here's my suspicion about the Indus peoples, the Sumerians and Akkadians were their contemporaries, and not only knew about them, they KNEW THEM, actively traded and presumably had ruler to ruler correspondence with them, since, along with the also contemporaneous Ancient Egyptians, and apparently Elamite Kingdom, they literally INVENTED diplomacy between nation/states as we know it, just like the POTUS conducting a diplomatic communication with the British Prime Minister, the Pharoah of Egypt would exhange letters with the rulers of Assyria, for example, the "Armana Letters", Ramses II's known communications with the Hittites, the Assyrians communications with the Hittites, are interesting examples. I still hold out hope, that somewhere buried in Iraq is a "Rosetta Stone" of some Sumerian King, like Ur Nammu, communicating to some Indus Civilization ruler, and the Sumerian is translated into their language, or even just a description of one of those great Indus cities and their culture and organization so that some diplomat or trader knew what they were traveling into, the Ancients invented that as well, travel brochures. It would be the discovery that made some unknown obscure Archaeologist a legend, a name that goes into history books, if they found a cuneiform clay tablet travel brochure describing in detail one of the Indus cities that is best to travel to for good trade deals, giving it's real name, the government structure, describing the culture of the people so as to not make a mistake and end up in trouble. Sorry, I've gone on too long, but in my opinion, such a discovery would be PRICELESS, worth more than a large room filled with gold.

@@jonathancummings6400 Thank you !! And your not too long could read it all day !! Write a book I’d buy it tomorrow!! they were truly marvellous in their contemporary way of life and let’s hope one day archeology will find more hidden treasures of their superbly advanced knowledge

Thank you very much!

@@panagiotisconstantinou PLEASE ANSWER TO THIS MY QUESTION: Panagiotis, in your opinion were Minoans of northem semite (white people) or caucasian origins?

@@sicilian845 they were aliens 😉

@@panagiotisconstantinou Hahahahha, nice words, but it wasn't what i wanted adelfos!😂 c'mon tell me the truth, even if it isn't what i think i could take It in consideration one day too

Same ! 😃

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I'd love to see that, done in the same style as this. I've visited Mycene and didn't want to leave..!! Although Hector was my hero I thought Achilles rather arrogant.

@@Cynisca I guess Homer did a good job. No doubt about it Hector was a tragic hero. But so was Achilleus. He had a valid reason to hate dogfaced Agamemnon and Hector. The both took the most important people in his life from him. Paris was the real villain but his stupidity in getting involved in a contest between three powerful goddesses was the source of his undoing. ( I would have picked grey-eyed Athena. A beautiful woman with weapons always attracts me.😊) I don't think Achilleus was any more arrogant than the average successful warrior of the age. You had be very self assured for that sort of warfare. The whole story is very well crafted as a great tragedy.

@@thomaszaccone3960 I didnt like Agamemnon at all, I didn't blame Clytemnestra for killing him after what he did..I preferred Melenaus. Incidentially, I did ancient Greek reenactment,(along with some other) with a weapon, now its a mature Hellenic matron! I would still love to do some Mycenean though. ..!!

People do actually wear caps-bandanas to get protection from head parasites even today ( hippies, rock concerts). It's quite obvious they were wearing caps, you can even see the painted wool texture if you zoom enough.

@@panagiotisconstantinou Couldn't that texture be shorter hair? They have found numerous razors from that time. I don't think caps are a slam dunk. There are similar frescoes found elsewhere, in Ancient times with areas that look like shaved blue areas. For a people who seem to have been so clean, inviting the scourges of lice and fleas which were prevelent at that time seems counter intuitive. What folks do today doesn't necessarily extrapolate back in to the past.

Also to take into consideration is how did they get the blue dye to dye the material? What did they use? Plants, minerals, decomposing animal material. We often see clothing shown in white, red, and yellows - all colors fairly easy to access via dyes obtained from natural materials in the area at that time, and found in the Archaeological record. What would they have used to get that deep dark blue?

@@themadmythologist4121 Indigo from Asia ?Egyptian blue, maybe woad?.Probably Egypt as that is the closet time wise.

@@themadmythologist4121 they were known for their blue/purple dye, are you serious??? That's like... Their thing, from those sea snails. They provided Egypt/Greece/Asia minor/the entire way down to Ethiopia with that, all the Royal families. I'm thinking if that's what these are, that's where they got it.

Nice to hear!🙂

@@panagiotisconstantinou Похоже что это лица современных людей, но это не они люди Древней Греции воссозданые лица древних греков.

@@АлександрНазаров-щ1д Вы ошибаетесь. Люди всегда выглядели одинаково.

@@user-ru1ki Возможно выглядели и одинаково. Но с другой стороны древние греки или минойцы в Древнем Мире могли выглядеть чуть по другому, их цвет кожи, глаз, волос, и другое.

@@АлександрНазаров-щ1д Это вы правы. Конечно присутствуют разные нюансы которые невозможно воплотить в жизнь после нескольких тысяч лет...

Just don't think about any new theories, believe what you were told by the experts.

These people come Egypt and colonized the Aegean

And i would love to se the ancient indo europeans or the white tribes of tarim basin.

I wonder if the Etruscan were related to the Minoan.

@@wednesdayschild3627 I also wonder this. Since they too appear to have had a unique language.

@@jonathancummings6400 the bust of Nefertiti has the oval eyes too. It must be a preindoeuropen trait.

@@wednesdayschild3627 OH, you mean the ancient "Mediterranean Race" Pelagian, I think they are called. Probably so. I think they heavily mixed with the Indo European invaders and this mix created the historical Mediterranean peoples such as the Minoans, Greeks, Latins, Etruscans, Delta region Egyptians, Cyprians, etc. Some adopted the Indo European Language like the Greeks and Latins, others kept their own like the Minoans and Etruscans.

I was thinking the curls look like waves.

@@wednesdayschild3627 When I saw the child's hair and cap they made me imagine a squid, octopus, eel a lot came to mind even the ladies with long hair I can see the waves of an ocean too 🤓 Nice eye 👍

But how do we know her name? As their script has not been deciphered. I imagine some archaeologist just baptised her with this name.

@@konstantinapapaioannou4306 minoans was north Africa sea peoples Phoenicians Brother of hittites Phoenicians canaanites aramaic gypsy and Liban siryac iranic

@@venom6885 you do not make any sense.

No

After years of my private investigation on Crete, I now think that Minoans were most similar to today's Albanians O.o Fascinating but boring at the same time. Kind of artsy but not sophisticated. Mystical at first glance but then a simple and ruthless folk without any depth. Isolated, peaceful and focused mostly on wealth. Beautiful but strange and sad, with little, if any resemblance to a typical European. They show no signs of a typically European individualism - very flat and one-dimensional, community that didn't change much for millenia until they suddenly disappeared and nobody remembered them or mentioned them after as if they never existed or mattered at all. Minoans were weird indeed, I can't "click" with them like I do with Mycenaeans.

Nice 🙂! What's your opinion on my theory that the Minoans wore blue caps?

Neither his female model nor his male model would have nose shapes of that type.

I thought I am the only one who thought of that. :v

Это не древние греки, а скорее всего современные люди из нашего времени.

Me too Great minds think alike

What they don't tell you is that White men sprang out just a month ago but...shhhhh.

The Minoans were an African ethnic group.

Yes 👏

Thank you for your kind words!

My g-grandmother came from a matriarchal society. The French Gascons from the SO of France, it was abolished in early 1900 when so many from that area had emigrated which made it harder to transfer property. I don't know how it worked before 1200 but at that time the Gascons considered women in their society more important than men. Though they didn't govern, maybe bc they bowed to the king. However when the woman married her children took her last name and not their fathers. When the mother died it was the eldest daughter that inhereted everything, not her father and it was up to her to share with her sisters(first) then with brothers..nobody knew my mothers name actually came from a female ancestor. Don't know the origin of the matriarchal society but like I said law changed in early 1900

@@martagasper5880 wow, indeed fascinating. I might do some research into gascons.

@@konstantinapapaioannou4306 They are :) Look up Gascogne(French) or Gascony..many artists from there like Victor Hugo, Alexander Dumas, Tolouse-Lautrec, Daguerre(invented the daguerrotype), Alphonse Daudet etc, etc..the Gascons are best represented in The 3 Mousketters by D"Artagnan. Fictional but DArtagnan was based on an actual officer from Artagnan who told tall tales. Gascons are known as the biggest boasters in all France..many writers from there so must be true ;)

Many of the Pre-Indo European Civilizations had matriarchal traits.

I think that Afghanis are actually Caucasians, I might be mistaken.

@@panagiotisconstantinou pashtun afghan are caucasian

@@panagiotisconstantinou do you know sharbat gula an afghan girl with green eyes?

@@panagiotisconstantinou Yes, my coworker spoke pashtun. Her nephew had emerald-green eyes.

one can dream. there's a lot of full frontal nudity in that art which the video sadly ignores

Yes, i can't wait!

She's a direct descendant of them, the culture, and language was lost, but Herodotus wrote of Eteocretans still living in the highlands of Crete, were apparently still speaking their unique language. However, apparently, by Roman times, they were just speaking Greek, and had been assimilated. Since they were already genetically the same people as the Greek people, once they gave up their language and culture, the Eteocretan/Minoan remnant was no more.

@@jonathancummings6400 Yes and the Santorini vulcano outburst had to a lot to do with it as well Anyway, I loved the fact that the people live on into the present.

@@everdinestenger1548 Yes. It's really cool.

Not even close. The Modern Greece population have nothing to do with Minaons.

@@jonathancummings6400 She have no connection to them, not even a slight percentage. Modern Greeks are completely different from Minoans.

this is not true. Minoans are mostly descendants of EEF (early european farmers) who through dna basis have been found to be mostly light skinned with dark hair and eyes

Perhaps the big bodies

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I look like them with curly hair but I'm from Morocco

yeah it's awesome

Where can I get the Greek script? Took 4 years of Ancient Greek in College specifically to read the Illiad in the original.

Yeah...so did the women right? You should run for Congress you'll fit.

It's common culture all over Africa

She must be beautiful

@William Po Does not mean he was right. Graves commented on the same thing simply because the site looked like it might be used for that...which it apparently wasn't.