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There is evidence everywhere that there used to be a humanoid species that roamed the Minecraft world. But now, there are only zombies and skeletons. What happened? How did such a prolific species die off? Join me for a Deep Dive to find out!
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@wendek13
@wendek13 2 года назад
“Nobody knew how to craft enchanted golden apples except for them.” Old Minecrafters: *Maybe I am an Ancient Builder.*
@Vinter927
@Vinter927 2 года назад
I was thinking the same thing... Ah yes... The ancient sacred texts... I was there when they were written...
@jackbelmont4389
@jackbelmont4389 2 года назад
I managed to craft one just for the achievement. Those were the days
@xxphoenixxx5314
@xxphoenixxx5314 2 года назад
No way I just ate them as a road snack 👌🚗💨
@somerandomtouhouenjoyer4879
@somerandomtouhouenjoyer4879 2 года назад
@@xxphoenixxx5314 damn
@V.rex_10
@V.rex_10 2 года назад
@@Vinter927 same
@ArmiaKhairy
@ArmiaKhairy 2 года назад
*Ancient builders* : Enslaved piglens. *Steve* : Enslave Every living thing in Automatic Farms!
@tayemdokany6931
@tayemdokany6931 2 года назад
Very accurate
@user-do8od7eh9g
@user-do8od7eh9g 2 года назад
So, Steve is a modern builder?
@mrasooly2012
@mrasooly2012 2 года назад
I'm starting to think that we are the bad guys... 😓
@tayemdokany6931
@tayemdokany6931 2 года назад
@@mrasooly2012 we are
@cezarcatalin1406
@cezarcatalin1406 2 года назад
@@tayemdokany6931 Doesn’t matter
@drthvrdr
@drthvrdr 2 года назад
Something I just realized that goes along with this theory. When the ancient builders needed gold, they didn't just mine in the nether. They set up massive gold mines in mesas, where gold is plentiful. That's why there is so many mineshafts there, and nowhere else.
@targashsensei7900
@targashsensei7900 2 года назад
So why all gold in those mines are untouched?
@drthvrdr
@drthvrdr 2 года назад
@@targashsensei7900 I mean you could write it off as too much work to remove gold ore specifically from mineshafts in mesas, or just them not being very smart. Considering there aren't any ores of any type missing from mineshafts, its easy to wonder why and there's a lot to question about that detail alone. Also, maybe there was just more gold there that we can't see and what remains is simply what is left over. Or somehow the gold "reappeared" over time or something equally weird and a theory of its own.
@linhero797
@linhero797 2 года назад
@@targashsensei7900 This is the differemce between Game Mechanics and lore. Removing the ores would make the game harder to program and less fun to play. So they kept it. But in lore, these mines are stipped bare.
@Plantify9339
@Plantify9339 Год назад
We could say that over the course of many years, many of the ores eventually formed once more, since it can happen in real life, so why not here? However, the ores are nowhere near as plentiful as they were before.
@maglor8157
@maglor8157 Год назад
No, that was there first gold mining effort
@beanieweenie1349
@beanieweenie1349 2 года назад
Considering the Phantom is an "undead" mob, it's interesting to think what they were like before they were infected.
@mertsoup9113
@mertsoup9113 10 месяцев назад
I think he already did a video on that thing
@MyUsersDark
@MyUsersDark 9 месяцев назад
@@mertsoup9113 He did yes. They were simply pointing out that it is interesting to think about what they were like, since we only know the undead version.
@HungerGamesFan88
@HungerGamesFan88 Месяц назад
bord
@aeroblu2002
@aeroblu2002 2 года назад
I always thought that the zombie virus actually came from the builders learning to cast spells for the first time, with the magic actually consuming them, the more they possessed it. I thought of this because of how the Witches and Illagers look like they too are being consumed by the power of magic, as they indulge themselves more in it.
@gaminbros316
@gaminbros316 2 года назад
My theory for the illagers and witches having pale skin is because they stay indoors most of the time unlike the villagers who are always working and socializing outside
@heianwood6119
@heianwood6119 2 года назад
Thats possible too. But we dont have a way to create a zombie without a zombie. From the other side we dont have recipe for god apple, so still possible
@robopuppyz2873
@robopuppyz2873 2 года назад
This might fit in how experience is linked to life and experience is required for enchanting. Like maybe it's possible to enchant with zero levels just the player character doesn't have the option to, and doing so drains their own life
@flaskanbottle9250
@flaskanbottle9250 2 года назад
Who says it didn't?
@chazer4258
@chazer4258 2 года назад
I always thought it came from the first time they summoned the wither. Like “the beginning” of there end.
@Kolateak_
@Kolateak_ 2 года назад
Group of multiple highly advanced people and many endermen: *dies to dragon* Some dude with a few beds: 🧍‍♂️
@bobertthechicken3002
@bobertthechicken3002 2 года назад
bruh
@heliothrax7716
@heliothrax7716 2 года назад
kinda true tho. Thats what I never got in some of these theories. If one dude with no formal training can kill a dragon, why cant the supposed race of ancient builders?
@juliecraze9310
@juliecraze9310 2 года назад
@@heliothrax7716 Maybe they were weaker than Steve? It's not realistic that a human could fall 22 meters without dying. Maybe the builders didn't properly gear up, not anticipating that the fourth dimension would have a powerful dragon?
@oggo329
@oggo329 2 года назад
@@heliothrax7716 the player knows how to defeat it and knows its weaknesses but the builders and endermen didnt know that
@heliothrax7716
@heliothrax7716 2 года назад
@@oggo329 i mean its not too difficult to imagine how to do so though. No cryptic sort of information was really required, and im sure a hyperadvanced group of two people could figure out the crystals needed to be destroyed.
@hatbrox
@hatbrox 2 года назад
I would like to see a theory on how spawners came to be. They seem to be quite magical being able to create life.
@ironzombie3987
@ironzombie3987 2 года назад
I don't think they are cannon. The ones in Mineshafts are just used to create the effect of a Spiders Nest. Probably the same sorta thing for the other Spawners
@vlad_47
@vlad_47 2 года назад
They are a structre like every other. They also appear in woodland mansions. Definetly canon and a key to this undead plague
@majamystic256
@majamystic256 2 года назад
I think they are pocket dimensions
@Jaded_Gold
@Jaded_Gold 2 года назад
@@ironzombie3987 what about the zombie and skeleton ones
@littlechickeyhudak
@littlechickeyhudak 2 года назад
@@Jaded_Gold same thing, they could just be to make an effect of a dungeon swarming with monsters. Not saying I necessarily agree that they aren't canon to any lore though
@mightyloa5704
@mightyloa5704 2 года назад
This video gave me the idea that the ancient builders were the players on old versions - before the nether was discovered, before the endermen came to overworld, before enchanted gapples were uncraftable, before villagers came to be... we've witnessed this story and created it. So we can merge together the "zombies are ancient builders" theory with "zombies are past lives of players" one. (it has issues, like why did we meet zombified piglins before the actual piglins, but i like the self-continuous vibe it gives, like all the versions of minecraft are part of its own history)
@Anomalocaris555
@Anomalocaris555 11 месяцев назад
The zombies dont sprint because sprinting wasn't a feature in older versions of minecraft
@tanjeeschuan4999
@tanjeeschuan4999 11 месяцев назад
The old nether was a barren wasteland because the old players didn't bother to explore it. I like this theory
@eadlindobbs
@eadlindobbs 9 месяцев назад
I agree, this theory is so fun to me, I don't mind that there are some plot holes
@sakuraice22
@sakuraice22 8 месяцев назад
​@@tanjeeschuan4999And in other videos he says the Nether WAS just one biome before the builders started changing it
@syafikkira8613
@syafikkira8613 4 месяца назад
maybe coz we meet the zombified piglin first and then got infected ourselves and try to cure them and ourselves thats why they were helping at first to get gold and as one user here commented why theres sign of mining for both gold in both world.. and thats why the piglin is so crazy about gold and will trade us gold for it.. and the reason why piglin rebel probably after they realise their infected member dont attack them at all.. so they thought they can make the cure themselves but well as we can see that didnt work out..probably just my theory
@penusbutter4182
@penusbutter4182 2 года назад
"The humans were bringing more than just gold from the nether" Fucking chills
@yankmyass
@yankmyass 2 года назад
This guy is an absolute professional at storytelling.
@thesandwich7151
@thesandwich7151 2 года назад
dude, the suspension is intense. My man had to have written at least a good story in his lifetime. This guy is so good.
@sock4991
@sock4991 2 года назад
fr ngl but shiver my fuckin timber’s
@deadlypotato3924
@deadlypotato3924 2 года назад
ikr
@cyberlemon9840
@cyberlemon9840 2 года назад
Ikr?
@cossakrose
@cossakrose 2 года назад
Ancient Builders: "We're awesome." RGN: "No, you guys were just pretty evil and selfish."
@oreo-postraphe
@oreo-postraphe 2 года назад
Earnestly its survival so I fucks wit wm
@mf6610
@mf6610 2 года назад
That why everyone hates your descendant
@jaredmizzell869
@jaredmizzell869 2 года назад
Ths is the fate of every intelligent being
@juliecraze9310
@juliecraze9310 2 года назад
@@jaredmizzell869 Except the piglins, who knew nothing but mining because they were manipulated.
@jaredmizzell869
@jaredmizzell869 2 года назад
@@juliecraze9310 well if they know nothing but mining I'm pretty sure they can not be considered a intelligent people if you know what I'm saying
@perrytheplatypus4937
@perrytheplatypus4937 2 года назад
A Steve and Alex, and end credits need a theory, feel like the two are connected some how. Like the Gods resurrected a ancient-builder to undo the sins of their ancestors. Would be pretty neat.
@christianedwards9025
@christianedwards9025 Год назад
Ferb I know what we are going to do today. Where's Perry? Oh there you are Perry.
@RingoDixie
@RingoDixie Год назад
Could they be Time Travelers maybe? Or something else?
@nolimit3281
@nolimit3281 10 месяцев назад
And they proceed to abuse every living being for their own benefit, constructing massive automated farms and enslaving everything in their quest for more riches
@timvanhoeck7018
@timvanhoeck7018 2 года назад
Hopefully soon, once 1.19 is released, we'll get a Deep Dive discussing the Warden.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 2 года назад
Did he just made-up baselessly the idea that 'Ancient Builders tamed and used Phantoms'? Also, the Gold in the Monuments makes no sense. The amount of Gold is clearly and obviously not showing a Storage-Place.
@batscove
@batscove 2 года назад
@@slevinchannel7589 Have you even watched the other videos??????????????????? Like the one this theory is based upon. The phantom one made sense and though it was a leap, he already said that and it would explain phantom behaviour. In the temple video he said that they didn't have time to fill up the temples. You need to understand what a theory is and do research before trying to say that someone is outright wrong bruh.
@semidecent4395
@semidecent4395 2 года назад
@@slevinchannel7589 this is why Retro recommends to watch the other theories first
@katlikescats27
@katlikescats27 Год назад
@@slevinchannel7589 my brother in christ nobody said that these theories are canon, hense why theyre theories
@zena2239
@zena2239 Год назад
Wish granted
@alanr353
@alanr353 2 года назад
This guy's narrative is awesome AF It made me more excited about this lore than any other movie available right now
@RetroGamingNow
@RetroGamingNow 2 года назад
Thank you!
@chazer4258
@chazer4258 2 года назад
True true
@Surfboarder4
@Surfboarder4 2 года назад
such a well-thought-out story
@svijj_
@svijj_ 2 года назад
Agreed. I presonally belive this version of Minecraft's lore to be better than MatPat's
@bbgamesbb3151
@bbgamesbb3151 2 года назад
@@RetroGamingNowI have a theory what if minecraft is going back in time I have a little proof if you watch the 1.16 trailer the one we're the pigment are dancing u will see a sheep in the nether but why we'll go to the 1.17 trailer and u see that the goat hit the sheep in the nether and I have more proof but to tired to type rn
@RADARMYBRAT32
@RADARMYBRAT32 2 года назад
You've talked about the ancient builders through out the series but now we're looking at them entirely
@nocturnaliism
@nocturnaliism 2 года назад
f o r e s h a d o w i n g
@srhotty
@srhotty 2 года назад
but we dont know how they look so we are just looking at what we think they were
@abdallahsawalha8835
@abdallahsawalha8835 2 года назад
@@srhotty ahh they look like Steve?
@Kxy2x
@Kxy2x 2 года назад
No fucking shit
@caseyr1434
@caseyr1434 Год назад
Theory: Steve is one of the last ancient builders and the only reason he isn't undead is because the ancient builders started building a tolerance to the virus like how europeans got used to their diseases but the native americans didn't because their bodies weren't used to it.
@LemonArsonist
@LemonArsonist 2 года назад
my theory is that the player was a zombie momements before booting up the game, who was cured by sheer luck, but ina way that now means they're immune,a nd effectivly imortal. As the magic that cured them binds them to the place they were cured
@littlechickeyhudak
@littlechickeyhudak 2 года назад
this has always kind of been my idea, at least that the player is immune. The fact that you don't become a zombie even when killed by one is pretty noteworthy
@lordbonney9779
@lordbonney9779 2 года назад
I like to think that a strain of the Ancient Builders are alive and Steve is the last one, on the run from the monsters that wish his death. Hence why he can do so much that the Ancient Builders could do.
@ashfaqalidarooga8798
@ashfaqalidarooga8798 2 года назад
@@lordbonney9779 maybe this has some connection with the disk 11? Maybe the recording is by steve itself and the disk broke when he was attacked at the end of the recording. He somehow fends off the attacker (which could be an infected ancient builder) and he hides it around the world. Just a possible proof considering your theory was true.
@mayonnaiseeee
@mayonnaiseeee Год назад
I love this take on it
@jujoya
@jujoya Год назад
​@Little Chickey Hudak he don't know that I guess it makes more sense if you approach it as Hardcore more, you can't respawn. That's just a game mechanic. We can't add to lore the fact you can change to creative and fly around right?
@Wifies
@Wifies 2 года назад
I very much enjoyed the narrative you presented! Super well made and entertaining as usual. Especially the convincing and smooth connection to the creation of the dragon 10/10 would be wiped out again
@graceliang2227
@graceliang2227 2 года назад
Hi wifies
@ejensprivatechannel8397
@ejensprivatechannel8397 2 года назад
Ngl your theories are very connected and well researched, you are the champ of theories.
@1_90C
@1_90C 2 года назад
hi
@itzdripcelotyt7145
@itzdripcelotyt7145 2 года назад
lol
@crossingcraft1192
@crossingcraft1192 2 года назад
Hi
@AdistuffRBX
@AdistuffRBX 2 года назад
Personally I thought the pigs turned into piglins because they were eating food from the nether like nether warts and stuff. Maybe that combined with the heat made them turn into piglins.
@createstadler
@createstadler 2 года назад
true, although when a pig is struck with lightning it turns into a zombie piglin so the heat probably did the most, RGN covered this in his piglin vid. Although maybe the absence of the nether food with the lightning maybe made it a zombie? He noticed the zombie part as a flaw in his theory but maybe this fixes the theory. Well done ig
@GMYSTERYICTNF
@GMYSTERYICTNF 2 года назад
I like to think Pigs became hoglins, and Piglins are due to ancient builder experiments to adapt to the nether to escape the over world zombie virus
@sergeantsainsburys9181
@sergeantsainsburys9181 2 года назад
Same cause the wapred fungus warps people
@GMYSTERYICTNF
@GMYSTERYICTNF 2 года назад
@@sergeantsainsburys9181 I like the theory that Warped fungus came due to enderman teleporting into the nether
@sergeantsainsburys9181
@sergeantsainsburys9181 2 года назад
Makes sence that buildiers hadnt developed antibodies i think matpat did a theory like this
@Miss_Palindrome
@Miss_Palindrome 2 года назад
This is honestly one of the more underrated Deep Dives. I actually really liked this one, and it's one of my favorites that I've seen so far!
@arnavnandan
@arnavnandan 2 года назад
Maybe the builders tried to make a powerful beast for digging at extreme rates aka the wither, but the wither turned hostile towards them and killed many builders and rest were infected with wither disease making them into wither skeletons, however some wither skeletons escaped the nether by nether portals and infected everyone in the overworld, however the environment being different made the builders zombies and skeletons
@fernandoportal5422
@fernandoportal5422 Год назад
I like this version
@cosmiccrafter6611
@cosmiccrafter6611 2 года назад
Alt theory: the undead are all the player, or at least the character the player controls; having lived before in an endless cycle, the previous bodies were reanimated, potentially by a lightning strike: pigs struck by lightning become zombie pigmen, after all.
@createstadler
@createstadler 2 года назад
thats a good theory
@stiw91
@stiw91 2 года назад
I like it, do you think the player loses their memory each loop, and what do you think makes the loop when we start playing suddenly different than all the previous one?
@cosmiccrafter6611
@cosmiccrafter6611 2 года назад
@@stiw91 Perhaps it's less that the player loses memory each loop, but more that they were retained until we gain control. Or maybe the End void still holds the previous incarnation of the player, not quite dead, not quite alive, but somehow retaining all of his memories. After all, it seems a little strange that plunging into the void can cause such a quick death.
@stiw91
@stiw91 2 года назад
True, plus it wouldn't make much sense for the desert and jungle temples across the world to all have the same designs if the player lost their memory
@sergeantsainsburys9181
@sergeantsainsburys9181 2 года назад
it can also explain how he knows to get wood and make a crafting table and that probably buried in his mind as instinct
@CelesProxy
@CelesProxy 2 года назад
What if steve spawned in because the Illagers and the Enderman had somehow made contact, and the Illagers created steve to help the endermen and free the end? That would explain the steve room in the mansions, but also Steve's immunity to the plague, maybe steve isn't even immune, but whenever he dies they create a new steve. This goes back to the golem video as well, the illagers made a simulated living being, then found a way to cheat death, but maybe the next step after that is the creation of life. And the question asked at the end of the golem video, (are there any golems who have turned on their creators/masters that we have overlooked) maybe the golem who turned on his master was Steve.
@harrymanocha4533
@harrymanocha4533 2 года назад
I considered this too, but it doesn't explain why the illagers attack the player on sight
@CelesProxy
@CelesProxy 2 года назад
@@harrymanocha4533 yeah that is a good question. Maybe steve was an experiment gone wrong? Maybe they were trying to make something and accidentally created an ancient builder instead? Maybe they made him on purpose, but somehow lost track of him and he escaped and now they are trying to capture him, or just kill him because they arent willing to take any chances.
@theconspiracytheorists2719
@theconspiracytheorists2719 2 года назад
My guess is Steve is a boss mob Think about how much the player can achieve: -a pocket dimension that contains all his items -immortality or respawn -conquered the overworld, nether and end Maybe he is a God. Maybe he represents human kind's rage - their will to persevere, to overcome that which would threaten our survival. He is uncompromising, a relentless being of violence that knows no mention of the hesitation shown by our many leaders and politicians during our time of judgement.
@varunjoshi7887
@varunjoshi7887 2 года назад
Maybe Steve isn't a golem.... I partly agree with your theory. Maybe the Illagers were trying to recreate a being as powerful as the builders, along with the immunities that the builders lacked. And maybe they were trying to make this creation with the intention of making it a puppet or a slave. Someone that could do their bidding. But bcoz Steve was so smart and now also sentient after being successfully brought to life, he learnt the opposite of what the Illagers taught him. He saw the evil in their ways, but also realised the mistakes of his own "ancestors". Which is why he rebels and escapes the Illagers.... This would explain why they want to kill him. He's kinda like a rogue agent, a threat to them if he gets powerful enough... And this explains why the minecraft "story" comes to a finish only by freeing the end. Maybe during his learning process, Steve felt guilty for what his "ancestors" did, and decides to make it his mission to undo their biggest mistake. Note:- I made a lot of leaps while writing this theory, so please take it with a grain of salt. 😅
@malinatof
@malinatof 2 года назад
i think in the end poem it says whenever you die it was just a dream and that is why you spawn next to your bed when you respawn although the poem isnt really cannon i think
@lordbonney9779
@lordbonney9779 2 года назад
I feel that, like many great civilisations, the Ancient Builders were FAR too over extended. By this, I mean they were somewhat like the British Empire, they controlled land in each corner of the 3 realms and due to this great swath of land they weren’t able to properly mobilise a military. They would’ve had to keep garrisons in Bastions and Villages, and wouldn’t have been able to respond to the undead outbreak. I believe that if the Ancient Builders did one of two things they could’ve survived as a species: 1) Not push their boundaries as much. If they expanded slower they would’ve been more secure, an empire is nothing without foundations. 2) Expanded far more in the End and Nether. If they established far greater holds over the Nether and End they might have been able to cut off all contact with the Overworld until a proper “counter attack” and cure could be enacted.
@agustinberto6138
@agustinberto6138 4 месяца назад
Basically, "no half measures, Waltuh"
@bulletghost3452
@bulletghost3452 2 месяца назад
They were also probably not as population dense as we dont see many giant cities and crumbling homestead like singular houses and temples. Similar to mongols/native American's, they only built buildings when they see it as meaningful. Then this means that not only were they overextended but simply a ruling caste which didnt have enough manpower to defeat the wither/zombie army and thus were destroyed except for Steve, the prophetic hero.
@hordescum35
@hordescum35 2 года назад
I love these interpretations of the Minecraft lore. I’ve always thought there was some sort of meaning behind the mobs and structures as they seemed bizarre.
@Cooom
@Cooom 2 года назад
My theory is the player is an ancient builder. And the "chosen one" of them. Given immortality
@sebchambers7140
@sebchambers7140 2 года назад
*hardcore intensifys*
@kyanoang3l0_old
@kyanoang3l0_old 2 года назад
It would be interesting to see RGN's take on the Player's ability to respawn.
@sebchambers7140
@sebchambers7140 2 года назад
@@kyanoang3l0_old I believe hes already mentioned in a video that the respawn mechanic is a "game" mechanic, so its nessercery for the game, not a lore mechanic, such as ruins and temples.
@Cooom
@Cooom 2 года назад
@@sebchambers7140 Hadcore spectator intensifies even more
@GMYSTERYICTNF
@GMYSTERYICTNF 2 года назад
As the chosen one that'd explain how the player is able to hop between universes, aka creating new worlds to explore
@heyimjay7144
@heyimjay7144 2 года назад
It’s finally time! Been waiting for this episode since the start of the series!
@luistheugliestdude1909
@luistheugliestdude1909 2 года назад
joe mama
@flandyc4513
@flandyc4513 2 года назад
I think we all have. It was important we get other topics outta the way but now it's here
@supervideos1795
@supervideos1795 2 года назад
Me to
@mf6610
@mf6610 2 года назад
Maybe many ender dragons came through that portal, and only one was left because the others were either hunted by both the enderman and builders or they simply all died of age and the sole survivor, Jean, was kept alive by the end crystals. Until the descendant, Steve, comes to the end and slays it once and for all.
@not-him-I-swear
@not-him-I-swear Год назад
I just imagined a vast portal opening and literally thousands of Ender Dragons spilling into the End
@Droobie03
@Droobie03 2 года назад
A theory I have is that the builders probably try to genetically modify themselves to be immune and create the player but the player didn’t come alive or wake up until centuries later.
@guystudios
@guystudios 2 года назад
I can't believe you do your own music... just amazing!
@RetroGamingNow
@RetroGamingNow 2 года назад
This one was different, too: I wrote the music first, and then added the script on top!
@acememetics7947
@acememetics7947 2 года назад
@@RetroGamingNow here me out. What if the larger monuments were super weapons designed to destroy the zombie outbreak but if failed. And the player must reach a certain level to use all of the old tech. And the mining and crafting was imprinted into the players mind when the player was designed as a last ditch effort to save their race.
@-Hexag0n
@-Hexag0n 2 года назад
@@acememetics7947 You might be right, and btw, I thought Steve could be actually a cyborg, weapons implemented from the builders to destroy the dangers of the world and might be why Steve is immune to the virus.
@acememetics7947
@acememetics7947 2 года назад
@@-Hexag0n yeah that could be true too. I do admit I borrowed some concepts from Halo Lore. Like the super weapon to destroy the out break. And the imprinting ideas into peoples heads so they can use your tech. Here is a link to the specific section of Halo Lore I got it from ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZPmuX2jd2ZU.html
@alexisareia1226
@alexisareia1226 2 года назад
I genuinely wish Mojang would hire you to write this stuff officially, and even add on to it.
@poggin
@poggin 2 года назад
I think part of what makes Minecraft feel so special is the mystery that enshrouds its universe's history. Having an official "canon" history would remove some of that mysteriousness and could make the exploration and adventure feel much less exciting.
@lifeboat6284
@lifeboat6284 2 года назад
@@poggin honestly. this is the game that’s renowned for being able to basically do whatever you want it in - whether it’s building, farming, fishing, mining, etc. it’s so fitting to have a sandbox that gives you a great amount of pieces to create a story that may or may not be right. it would feel so out of character of such a freedom heavy game to have something that huge set in stone.
@cyb3rklev872
@cyb3rklev872 2 года назад
@@poggin you would still be able to do everything you did before regardless of whether or not there is a pre-game lore
@weilaiyvn_DEACTIVATED
@weilaiyvn_DEACTIVATED 2 года назад
@@poggin I even agree, even if (assuming) the story of the video was official, it would make sense not to know the story since we arrived in a desolate world without knowing what happened there.
@Cool_Kid95
@Cool_Kid95 2 года назад
I don’t, the magic is it being up to you. Just cause I like his idea doesn’t mean I want it official
@Danielathan
@Danielathan 2 года назад
This is a very cool theory. I love the choregraphy and the music that comes with it; it's all so well done! I also like how different it is from MatPat's theory.
@tdawgg6561
@tdawgg6561 Год назад
I believe the cure for zombification is just the golden apple, I think the potion of weakness is just applied to get the apple into the zombie's mouth without getting bitten
@penginhaloguru
@penginhaloguru 2 года назад
this video got me to realize that assuming the part at the end dragon is true where it was summoned accidentally. in a panicked fit to undo what they had just done they scrambled to construct something similar to what we would call a faraday cage on at least 2 of the pillars. only to find it wasn't having an effect and that magical energy just didn't work like electrical energy
@lookatmyzombies9377
@lookatmyzombies9377 2 года назад
I like it
@leek.3671
@leek.3671 2 года назад
Ooo that’s a good theory!!
@CianHue
@CianHue 2 года назад
How about the end ship dragon heads?
@leek.3671
@leek.3671 2 года назад
@@CianHue could be fake or could be that they previously attempted to kill the dragon through other means only to have it come back shortly later and the heads are from the times they managed to kill it. But it always left behind an egg that would quickly grow back into the beast, so eventually they gave up and groups of the Endermen trapped there with it turned to worshiping it.
@penginhaloguru
@penginhaloguru 2 года назад
@@CianHue fossils?
@thewanderer4564
@thewanderer4564 2 года назад
A devoloper: *releases a game with a small unintended feature* RetroGamingNow: So, I will tell you how this extra pixel implies that there is a super multiverse with a lot of aliens! This is just a joke, not hating.
@RetroGamingNow
@RetroGamingNow 2 года назад
Crazy to think how much of this goes back to random additions by notch. However, after the Microsoft acquisition, I feel like they’ve been much more intentional about the lore. At the very least, they want people to make stuff up to a certain extent
@thewanderer4564
@thewanderer4564 2 года назад
@@hyperdreamer9307 My guy. Its a joke. But your right tho
@thewanderer4564
@thewanderer4564 2 года назад
@@RetroGamingNow dang. DANG. I actually got a comment from this guy.
@thewanderer4564
@thewanderer4564 2 года назад
@@hyperdreamer9307 Oh of course not, I was just making the point of the comment clear. and thank you.
@FriedEgg101
@FriedEgg101 2 года назад
This is a really wholesome channel. If I had kids I'd be happy for them to watch this channel.
@gifflebunk7272
@gifflebunk7272 Год назад
The potential portal in the new Deep Dark Cities potentially adds to the theory that the Ancient Builders wanted to find a way out, but there was something back there that made it uninhabitable (Skulk and the Warden) which, as implied by Disc 5, followed through the portal and eventually took over the lower levels of the Minecraft world.
@wortwortwort117
@wortwortwort117 2 года назад
While i dont agree with large important parts of the theory such as there being more then one dragon as evidence by the dragon heads put on end ships or Piglins miraculously appearing rather then slowly evolving from pigs left behind when the ancient builders were already long gone. I love the production of this video very much
@wortwortwort117
@wortwortwort117 2 года назад
​@notsureofausername Not necessarily.. i mean you're right, it does do that IRL but there's not evidence in game that that would be true. Remember this is also a world where food never rots. The only thing close i would say to blocks decaying would be copper
@aricreech498
@aricreech498 2 года назад
idea,what if the dragon heads on the end ships were artificial,and they attracted the dragon due to him thinking they were real and wanting to avenge the dragons which he thought were real, he used his mightiest power to manipulate the end crystals while the portal was opened causing the portal to summon him?
@wortwortwort117
@wortwortwort117 2 года назад
@@aricreech498 The dragon heads being fake would be cool but the method of obtaining the other mob heads (from the mob themself) would make it consistent to think that these mob heads did come from the dragon itself
@jacobleu5520
@jacobleu5520 2 года назад
Actually, in regard to piglins, I believe that they came about by lightning strike. Since it would have happened before the infection the pigs would have turned into normal piglins rather than the zombified ones
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 2 года назад
The dragon heads on End Ships don't really make sense. Are they just decorative figureheads? Do the endermen believe they can scare away the dragon with them? Are they real heads from other dragons? Also, why does the Ender Dragon bear such a close resemblance to the Enderman if they supposedly came from different dimensions?
@waitthatscopyrighted3198
@waitthatscopyrighted3198 2 года назад
RGN: The Ancient Builders tried to make themselves a great and prospering civilization, but in the end, that was there downfall. Roman Empire: welcome to the club
@Superfan109
@Superfan109 2 года назад
And all it took was an unstoppable undead virus. 🦠
@DragonMaster360
@DragonMaster360 2 года назад
Lol
@priyankahazarika2858
@priyankahazarika2858 2 года назад
@@Superfan109 *cough* corona *cough*
@waitthatscopyrighted3198
@waitthatscopyrighted3198 2 года назад
Imagine actually having your massive empire spanning between 3 continents get defeated by a bunch of literal barbarians .
@MeepChangeling
@MeepChangeling 2 года назад
@@priyankahazarika2858 If you think that Corona will be the end of our species, or even civilization, you know nothing of your history. We've survived so much worse than Covid that frankly, the fact we call it a pandemic is only on technicality. See the Spanish Flu, Black Death, and many many many more.
@pizzalover1525
@pizzalover1525 2 года назад
Heres a theory: The endermen actually planned to create the dragon and knew that it would kill the builders but not them.
@targashsensei7900
@targashsensei7900 2 года назад
But... It didn't kill builders, plague did. Dragon created mess in end dimension and cut off only way to overworld😐 Not the best theory But maybe endermens are not very smart
@eadlindobbs
@eadlindobbs 9 месяцев назад
I personally love the idea that the ancient builders were people playing earlier versions of the game before hostile mobs and things. I know it's a theory with so many plot holes but it feels wonderfully nostalgic and meta to me
@MakinamiPhYT
@MakinamiPhYT 2 года назад
This theory is giving me some "Adventure Time" vibes, a vibrant world with magic yet it was the remnant of an old world that is years after an apocalyptic event.
@autisticbluesloth5244
@autisticbluesloth5244 Год назад
thought the same thing
@noahbriggs6331
@noahbriggs6331 Год назад
Like minecraft is set far into the future
@jarlbalgruuf7701
@jarlbalgruuf7701 2 месяца назад
Always felt like that to me
@PelinalDidNothingWrong
@PelinalDidNothingWrong 2 года назад
I absolutley love this series! Taking something as basic as Minecraft and connecting the little details to make a cohesive narritive lore is really impressive
@GUmbolyaa5112
@GUmbolyaa5112 Год назад
This was a very interesting theory. I always thought that the builder's use of magic caused it to corrupt them turning into zombies and skeletons, it also kind of explains why undead mobs drop experience.
@smokingsnake8276
@smokingsnake8276 2 года назад
Mojang should make a Minecraft series exposing its lore, and they should hire RetroGamingNow to narrate it *change my mind, I dare you*
@thewanderers97
@thewanderers97 2 года назад
I love this, but there's a few things I feel poke holes into this otherwise sound theory: Dragon heads. How would the builders and endermen have acquired dragon heads to place onto the end ships before the dragon was summoned? (Edit: I forgot about the part in your endermen video where you mention the dragon continually dies of old age and is reborn from its egg, and so endermen could scavenge the remains while it's dead and temporarily travel to the overworld) Ancient debris. Smelting them produces netherite scraps, and it's implied these are all that remains of netherite, with it having all been harvested. However, the term debris implies it's ejecta from a single catastrophic event. Perhaps an experiment with netherite produced the plague? Again, great theory, but I feel these do poke at it a bit
@juliecraze9310
@juliecraze9310 2 года назад
Maybe that catastrophic event was the eruption of the basalt deltas? If the end is space, overworld crust and nether mantle, the fourth dimension they were looking for could be the core, where the virus came from in the eruption and dragon was teleported from. That could also explain why ONLY the basalt deltas have no bastions, whereas all four other nether biomes have them.
@rafexrafexowski4754
@rafexrafexowski4754 2 года назад
I think the term "ancient" is more important. It implies that the debris is really old, but it is confirmed that netherite ore existed, but it was all mined by the piglin, which confirmes the piglin abuse theory. But how did the debris appear? It might be destroyed netherite, but 1. It requires gold to turn into netherite and 2. It's only found inside netherack. That means that it's something natural. The only possible way for both of them to exist I can think of is that the debris is a netherite ore that was somehow separated from the gold inside of it, but I have no idea what could have caused it. Edit: After reading the comment above this one it might be associated with that basalt delta cataclysm that also unleashed the virus and came from the dragon's dimension.
@basedimperialism
@basedimperialism 2 года назад
"Debris" does not inply ejecta. It simply means it was a piece of something that has either broken off or degraded to the point of being split off from the original body.
@Highlight_mania-._1
@Highlight_mania-._1 2 года назад
He covered the dragon head part in a different video
@halfpace1462
@halfpace1462 2 года назад
@@rafexrafexowski4754 maybe its just impure netherite that overtime got more and more corroded? just like in real life most of the gold is impure
@user-qb9vk7nl3w
@user-qb9vk7nl3w 2 года назад
"join me for a dive benit the waves" That never gets old for this seres arent I right?
@Krauser8882
@Krauser8882 2 года назад
I love how much the editing feels like an older campy horror movie. It sets the mood really well.
@sgt.future7134
@sgt.future7134 2 года назад
I like to imagine the illagers were Messing with magic and thats why you suddenly appear, that special room in the mansion with all the colored wool that matches the player, some magical effect put onto it can create the long lost ancient builder, but due to magic not being perfected, you spawn randomly into the world
@redmantle8784
@redmantle8784 2 года назад
We’ve always asked who are these ancient builders and where are they now… But when did they first start off…? What is the proper flow of Timeline for Minecraft…?
@HillBilly_Urbex
@HillBilly_Urbex 2 года назад
everyone asks where are the ancient builders... but nobody asks how are the ancient builders )_:
@gaminbros316
@gaminbros316 2 года назад
@@HillBilly_Urbex oh ya know 6 feet under
@heianwood6119
@heianwood6119 2 года назад
Acievement get: open inventory
@HillBilly_Urbex
@HillBilly_Urbex 2 года назад
@@gaminbros316 not if i got anything to say about it!!!! they are bound to have loot XD
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 2 года назад
They most likely evolved from something but there is no evolution dynamic in Minecraft so we may never know
@romanpackham8471
@romanpackham8471 2 года назад
i want to see a unbiased battle of the theories between game theory and retro gaming now, they're both good and go about things differently and i feel like a comparison should help with ascertaining the lore
@Punished_Trump
@Punished_Trump 2 года назад
Retro is still young and his ideas are fun and interesting, while I get more of a hollow, disingenuous vibe from GT these days. I dunno, probably just me. I think GT is past their prime. They used to have great ideas, but I think FNAF ruined them
@romanpackham8471
@romanpackham8471 2 года назад
@@Punished_Trump that's not the point! both of these theories are very good, i just want to find the lynchpin that proves which one is most accurate!
@bubblybubbles09
@bubblybubbles09 2 года назад
@@romanpackham8471 no idea why but i read that in Hermione's voice.
@bubblybubbles09
@bubblybubbles09 2 года назад
@@Punished_Trump yeah I do agree that GT is a bit hollow now, but it would be fun nonetheless, plus it might bring something new to the table that neither noticed the first couple times.
@StreakedSilver
@StreakedSilver 2 года назад
Late comment I know, but Game Theory is ran by a guy who asked why in Halo Spartans can kill with one punch to the back of the head in MP but forgot that Spartans can flip vehicles and PUNCH TANKS TO DEATH. and tried to come up with some other bullcrap way. He's not that smart.
@ComicSquareyaR
@ComicSquareyaR 2 года назад
I think crying obsidian from the nether portals is just the power of the portal itself "soaked" up in the obsidian, giving it its purple glow.
@AdditionalAndrew5916
@AdditionalAndrew5916 2 года назад
All of this is very plausible in my opinion. Not too long ago I came up with the same theory, but yours is much more indepth. I explained to my friends that Minecraft is an apocalyptic time line too. Many of my own thoughts were like yours with the over world. But yours extends to all dimensions. Awesome job.
@memelordmarcus
@memelordmarcus 2 года назад
Minecraft was already an unnerving "liminal space," but this makes it even creepier. Great Theory
@Cichyhub
@Cichyhub 2 года назад
i dont think minecraft is an liminal space tbh
@memelordmarcus
@memelordmarcus 2 года назад
@@Cichyhub I just think It just has a similar vibe (in singleplayer survival mode) as a very empty, isolated world where it seems like there should be people, but the only intelligent creatures are distinctly not human.
@salam-peace5519
@salam-peace5519 2 года назад
Especially caves, abandoned mineshafts, strongholds and nether fortresses can have a very liminal vibe to them because they are all very maze-like.
@g8way818
@g8way818 2 года назад
Alright, I’ve watched all the other theories on this channel, I’m ready
@theogamer_2462
@theogamer_2462 2 года назад
Me to😊
@multime6021
@multime6021 Год назад
Personally, I always thought that the sickness might've been because of the builders' travels through dimensions, similar to how piglins turn to zombie piglins, because the overworld's air became toxic to them over time. If that were true, i believe the builders might've gone to too many different worlds at a time which might've turned them into zombies, or perhaps a mix of different components from the 3 dimensions made them sick over time, and when they all discovered it, there was no time to stop it anymore
@mf6610
@mf6610 2 года назад
This is a tale of tragedy. Their ambitions were their righteous downfall and the player is treated as evil by the piglins and enderman
@shivanshjhaiv1365
@shivanshjhaiv1365 2 года назад
When the world needed him most he came back
@RogueK
@RogueK 2 года назад
I adore the editing, commentary, and music choice in this series. Really sets the tone and immediately grabs my attention and interests. Great work as always
@GoldenSpoon109
@GoldenSpoon109 2 года назад
Just binged every single Minecraft lore video from your channel! They were excellent and well-researched. The overbearing mystery of the game has always been mystifying, and you seem to have the most thorough and thought-provoking theories on what the deepest MC lore could actually be. Thanks so much for working so tirelessly on these awesome theories.
@Punished_Trump
@Punished_Trump 2 года назад
I always felt like the Zombies and the skeletons were supposed to signify two different kingdoms that at one point were at war with each other, and perhaps, that war was the catalyst, or part of one, that caused the zombie outbreak. It would make sense and explain why it's possible to get them to fight eachother when a skeleton shoots a zombie when trying to attack you. The impact jostles the Zombies brain and causes them to remember who their true and ancient foe is.
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 2 года назад
This would be complete if in the future they added a new aether dimension made using obsidian and materials you can only find after fighting the Ender Dragon and Wither
@t00nedd00d
@t00nedd00d 2 года назад
Yeah like maybe an obsidian frame like the nether but horizontal, and you threw a chorus fruit into the frame, something along those lines
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 2 года назад
@@t00nedd00d I’m thinking it’s a very endgame dimension. Like you need multiple nether stars and netherite to make it and you make it in a similar fashion to how you summon the ender dragon which not many people even know how to do.
@littlechickeyhudak
@littlechickeyhudak 2 года назад
@@therealspeedwagon1451 it could maybe even incorporate dragon egg(s), and possibly a new ore local to the end, basically its equivalent of netherite. So to build this portal you'd have to establish dominion over all dimensions and defeat both the respective bosses. Maybe you need to build some sort of construct in each dimension that link to one another and open the portal itself somewhere in the overworld or something. Really I'm just spitballing ways to escalate the complexity and difficulty
@has2give
@has2give 2 года назад
@@littlechickeyhudak like a block from every dimension. glowstone, end stone, maybe netherite or a new block made with glowstone and end stone that you need netherite bars and nether stars to power
@multifan6679
@multifan6679 2 года назад
@@has2give isn't there something like a portal in ancieny cities (1.19 snapshot)? Maybe that is going to function as a new portal in 1.20/1.21?
@matyera2508
@matyera2508 2 года назад
Wow! I didn’t know you were also responsible for making the music until now! I should say, they fit the atmosphere. Nice work!
@samuelthecamel
@samuelthecamel 2 года назад
Whoa, he actually makes the music himself? WHAT? This dude deserves a billion subscribers!
@Uncle.Randal
@Uncle.Randal 2 года назад
Yeah same I just noticed that in the intro and appreciated the video even more
@botilever
@botilever 2 года назад
I think the player’s character is the creation of the ancient builders. Like how can you not die from a 22 meter fall? And so how can you “remember” a craftibg recipie even if you have just only one of the elements of the item? I think they died somehow but before, we’re just left in the world. Or somehow our character can’t die? Anyways I love your stuff man, keep up the great work!:)
@crimsonfur369
@crimsonfur369 2 года назад
This feels a lot more plausible than matpat’s theory and inspired me to think about what else happened.
@ponteirodorato
@ponteirodorato 2 года назад
I always wondered a thing in these theories regarding the End Portal… Ender pearls has a chance to drop from endermen once they are *killed* So, nine endermen had to sacrife themselves to return to the End? Or the pearl is more like an object endermen carry with them?
@CelesProxy
@CelesProxy 2 года назад
In the enderman video he explains how it works. Basically it's an ender *pearl* key word there. Shulkers are designed very similarly to oysters, as well end cities look like oyster farms. This is where the theory comes in the shulkers have pearls inside them like an oyster, and that the endermen harvest them and use them to teleport.
@ponteirodorato
@ponteirodorato 2 года назад
@@CelesProxy Oh, thanks! Now that's explain a lot. For some reason I skipped that video, or I forgot if I already watched it. I will see it later, thanks!
@CelesProxy
@CelesProxy 2 года назад
@@ponteirodorato happy to be of service : )
@RetroGamingNow
@RetroGamingNow 2 года назад
Yea, I’ve always though of it as the pearls are the device they use
@SkeletonAngel_
@SkeletonAngel_ 2 года назад
Finally we got to know why I expected it this episode to be early in the Minecraft Lore but I can see why it was difficult
@doodle_bear291
@doodle_bear291 2 года назад
This is an AMAZING theory. A lot of it makes sense!! I have a personal head cannon that the builders, excited at meeting possible allies in the Piglins, wanted to share the overworks with them and brought a bunch over. After the Piglins emerged into the toxic atmosphere though, they started attacking people, scared and in pain as they deteriorated. The builders pushed them back through the portal as quickly as possible, but the damage was done. Pushing them back into the nether just spread it more, though the disease couldn't thrive there in the heat. This scare escalated into the builders and piglins hating each other, only associating to trade. The builders, (eventually) went extinct from the deadly virus combined with the dangers of the nether. Feel free to add on and present your own head cannons!
@lurientheenjoyer6711
@lurientheenjoyer6711 Год назад
I'd like to think that the villagers are what became of the last remaining builders. A fitting end to a group of such hubris, to eventually become unable to even move blocks or wield any weapons, their craftsmanship the only remnant of a glorious past.
@justusP9101
@justusP9101 11 месяцев назад
Literally GT
@lurientheenjoyer6711
@lurientheenjoyer6711 11 месяцев назад
@@justusP9101 Yeah, pretty much. Mat's new theories aren't as good (and kinda cringy) but I like his old Minecraft ones. I'm no lore expert, and I haven't watched them since their release back in 2019, so maybe it's complete bollocks. Wouldn't be the first time they pulled theories out of their asses, like with the hollow knight one.
@justusP9101
@justusP9101 11 месяцев назад
@@lurientheenjoyer6711 but but but you see, the knight is the pale king because.... They are both the same colour!
@lurientheenjoyer6711
@lurientheenjoyer6711 11 месяцев назад
@@justusP9101 but that's just a theory... A SHITTY THEORY
@aaronrivera2511
@aaronrivera2511 2 года назад
Also, for some reason, that newcomer is immune to the zombie plague, since they do not turn upon death by a zombie in-game.
@GMYSTERYICTNF
@GMYSTERYICTNF 2 года назад
I like to think the players body isnt exactly physical, more spiritual in nature
@AdaTheWatcher
@AdaTheWatcher 2 года назад
I think the player is artificial in nature, possibly made by the illagers. The player can respawn and is immune to the plague. Where else do we see items capable of cheating death? The totems of undying. The illagers also have rooms with the matching wool for steve.
@GMYSTERYICTNF
@GMYSTERYICTNF 2 года назад
@@AdaTheWatcher well Zombies have steves skin so it could just be that the ancient builders looked like Steve
@lrrrruleroftheplanetomicro7221
@lrrrruleroftheplanetomicro7221 2 года назад
Nah guys, the player’s just up to date with their vaccines.
@aadarshroy3216
@aadarshroy3216 2 года назад
@@AdaTheWatcher One fault, Illagers attack you on sight. Why would they attempt to kill a creation that isn't the iron golem or villager? also, heard of hardcore? illagers wouldn't attack their own creation before experimenting, and you don't spawn in some sort of summoning room either!
@ryanbradley3293
@ryanbradley3293 2 года назад
Wow. That was the best deep dive I have ever watched. I loved how it all Stiched all the deep dives together into one big timeline. I also have one theory to add to it. The overworld became so enriched with the zombie virus that anyone would turn into undead if exposed to the overworld, as we see when piglins and hoglibs enter. Some of the piglins are able to survive in the less-undead inhabited nether, though there are still zombie piglins.
@createstadler
@createstadler 2 года назад
oh yeah, that explains the zombification. But how does the player not get zombified? maybe because they were the last builder and managed to find the cure just as the last other one died...
@ryanbradley3293
@ryanbradley3293 2 года назад
I think it’s because of that, the player is either a descendant of the ancient builders that has grown completely immune to the zombie virus, or it is a strange being that just formed at random and has the same qualities. The zombie bites still hurt and zombies can still kill the player, but the player cannot be infected
@Yoda_16358
@Yoda_16358 Год назад
It would be cool to add the warden somewhere to this lore theory. I’ve really enjoyed these theories, and think they make quite a bit of sense, given what we know. Maybe the big structure in the middle of the ancient city was a failed portal, the redstone under it were experiments, and the warden was a golem-like thing kinda like the guardians. Or maybe the skulk and warden was like mold and it overtook the city, forcing the inhabitants to abandon it and move on.
@Seffffffffff
@Seffffffffff 2 года назад
You're an amazing storyteller and I am absolutely in love with the scoring in the backgroudn. It's really helped set the mood and feel the urgency in the story
@marmyeater
@marmyeater 2 года назад
Endermen don't teleport using pearls, otherwise they wouldn't randomly teleport at will. The pearls they drop are probably something their bodies generate similar to bones and teeth in our bodies.
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 2 года назад
Each enderman could have a naturally-occuring pearl that enables them to teleport, just as oysters have a pearl.
@marmyeater
@marmyeater 2 года назад
@@InventorZahran Exactly, but they don't throw them or run out the way we do like the video suggests.
@PelinalDidNothingWrong
@PelinalDidNothingWrong 2 года назад
"The Builders" remind me a lot of The Forerunners from Halo. Was that one of your influences? They're both ancient civilizations that were affected by a virus/parasite at the height of their power that ultimately led to their downfall despite their best efforts
@donutlovingwerewolf8837
@donutlovingwerewolf8837 2 года назад
Ocean monuments remind me of Forerunner ruins
@PelinalDidNothingWrong
@PelinalDidNothingWrong 2 года назад
@@donutlovingwerewolf8837 Same. That and they both have constructs designed to guard them
@donutlovingwerewolf8837
@donutlovingwerewolf8837 2 года назад
@@PelinalDidNothingWrong both of which shoot lasers, all that's missing now is for the guardians to shoot at zombies
@RetroGamingNow
@RetroGamingNow 2 года назад
The connection did not even cross my mind, but now that you mention it I can totally see it
@donutlovingwerewolf8837
@donutlovingwerewolf8837 2 года назад
@@RetroGamingNow Ohhh, you can just taste that delicious clout as i eat my chicken sandwich, Jokes aside, Maybe Steve and Alex are the reclaimers aka the humans destined to inherit the Builders legacy like how Humanity are to inherit the Forerunners legacy, Who knows maybe the Ancient Builders constructed a powerful super weapon designed to wiped out the zombies... Or its food, maybe that's what caused the Builders extinction!? Maybe it wasn't the Virus or Opposing factions.. Perhaps, just perhaps the Builders built a weapon designed to wipe out all the creatures susceptible to the Virus just like the forerunners, I apologize if i sound crazier than you but the Builders and Forerunners are SO SIMILIAR! AAAGGGHH!!!
@starsilverinfinity
@starsilverinfinity 2 года назад
Really love this narrative! Though I wish Steve arriving wasn't portrayed so "Game-y", since I thought there would be a way to tie them into the lore aswell. It kinda pulls you out when it was soo good, if you get me - but that's relatively minor tbh, the whole thing was great!
@paper2000
@paper2000 Год назад
I've just started watching your Minecraft videos, and I really love how you put them together and edit them. Keep up the great work.
@smolbean8028
@smolbean8028 2 года назад
I love your videos, I love seeing people theory’s on what happened before we went on the minecraft world!
@antonio42779
@antonio42779 2 года назад
I feel that the vast amount of gold in the nether has something to do with the transformation of pig into piglins, as gold has healing properties within food, just an idea.
@createstadler
@createstadler 2 года назад
maybe… but to make the healing properties it would need to have food (eg an apple or carrot) in it.
@antonio42779
@antonio42779 2 года назад
@@createstadler true, but the food enhanced said healing properties, this could technically be different, as this was a sort of evolution. Though you are right about that. It is hard to tell.
@NekuroMC
@NekuroMC 2 года назад
its probably just mutation from strange environment since pigs arent native in nether
@Antonio-xq2hg
@Antonio-xq2hg 2 года назад
That was actually great. Seeing this culmination to the series of lore videos he's made is super satisfying. He definitely put some very compelling arguments in his other videos that make it all make sense.
@PrinzPapiertuete
@PrinzPapiertuete 10 месяцев назад
Your music choice, combined with your dramatic talking style and the video footage and editing turns this into a top tier documentary.
@cuddlecakes7153
@cuddlecakes7153 2 года назад
Good theory but there's a huge flaw: If the Nether contains the plague, then why does it not affect us the player as we play?
@artturisairinen3255
@artturisairinen3255 2 года назад
Another flaw: where did the hundreds of dragon heads come from?!!?
@artturisairinen3255
@artturisairinen3255 2 года назад
@@mondocsa Well, then that theory doesn't really fit with this. Here there's just one dragon and it doesn't die until the player comes
@heianwood6119
@heianwood6119 2 года назад
What if there was small colony of builders that gained resistance? (Still got eaten lolz) but 1 builder survived
@JessJ_698
@JessJ_698 2 года назад
@@artturisairinen3255 it does work I just have to watch the other ones to understand this one. He literally stated that before this video
@MarkChlenov
@MarkChlenov 2 года назад
It's an easy one: the player differs from ancient builders in some way
@manthannandha1095
@manthannandha1095 2 года назад
Finally, this is what we've all been waiting for since the beginning of deep dive I had chills throughout the video, your narration deserves an oscar!
@createstadler
@createstadler 2 года назад
if you had chills in this one, check out the old root one, that one is just scary… or the herobrine one, it has some jumpscares
@elgee2035
@elgee2035 2 года назад
man these videos are so well connected. I am convinced that this could very well be minecrafts lore. Well done man you‘re awesome! keep going.
@Flvfty
@Flvfty 2 года назад
I would love to see this continued into the normal game of minecraft just to see this extended because this is such a fun watch! Great job man!
@edde2429
@edde2429 2 года назад
I've never watched this channel before but I'm already in love. The immersion into the Minecraft world is something I've lost more and more in my almost 10 years of playing. Thank you very much for bringing it back! ❤❤❤
@Jaded_Gold
@Jaded_Gold 2 года назад
Good for you man :)
@z4v2
@z4v2 2 года назад
Theory: what if the ship wrecks were previous boats which faught the wither but got sank by the wither's power and was also used for transportation for the builders and villagers during the zombie apocalypse (haven't finished the video) Ok last one: the nether fortress was a brewing ground of the ancient builders and also a hide out from the piglins they expiremented on piglins which created the zombie versions and found a cure for the villagers there? Wait one of my theory got deleted lol: What if the builders fled from the overworld to the nether to hide from the wither and other stuff but then the pigs they got for a food source became piglins a aggressive form and took over the nether (maybe that's the reason they are neutral to us until we hit them said zombie version of the piglins) Idk why I like writing these: what if the builders made silverfishes to guard the portal from pillagers and illagers maybe that's why the illagers are trying to make their own to get revenge from the builders (The reason silver fishes attack us maybe because it forgot the face of the builders or it was given instructions not to let anyone else in) One more: what if we were infected our and parents were scientists which tested on us. as we got un infected the zombie plague soon came and took over all of them leaving us by ourselves
@Your_Local_Chopper
@Your_Local_Chopper 2 года назад
That makes sense!
@Halalcat2012
@Halalcat2012 2 года назад
I don’t have Tim to read dis
@blitzkriegc1112
@blitzkriegc1112 2 года назад
Silverfish theory is no cuz they are still hostile to iron golem but I think the silverfish hijacked the spawner i think the original mob that supposed to be spawn (for lore not the game Wise) was the warden cuz of the similarities of sculk and wardens design being similar to the end portal frame.the warden in the deepdark was the warden that fled from the stronghold due to silverfish infestation and their hostile behavior cuz silverfish comes in swarms and makes noise which can make the warden confuse of its hearing being the only line of sight and when something is too loud they are left disabled and confused which direction the silverfish gonna attack from
@z4v2
@z4v2 2 года назад
@@blitzkriegc1112 Good theory but like maybe the silverfishes might have been instructed not to let anyone in, yet I like ur theory more!
@blitzkriegc1112
@blitzkriegc1112 2 года назад
@@z4v2 i don't think it is cuz silver is an animal not a machine and can naturally spawn in deep underground on certain biome and if the silver fish was instructed then it can't attack other hostile mob and the builder was trying to escape from overworld cuz of zombies,skeleton and etc but silver doesn't attack them
@mcmobactivist4624
@mcmobactivist4624 2 года назад
This video is absolutely amazing! Better than most movies I've seen. Keep up the great work and thank you for making this series
@kbassi777
@kbassi777 2 года назад
Wow! This was really good! You made this sound plausible. Hope to see a vid about how the player themselves came to be when they first spawned in the world.
@troywainio7405
@troywainio7405 2 года назад
Maybe the Enderman made an agreement that if a builder looks you in the eye, they are hostile. That may be way they attack us when we do
@GMYSTERYICTNF
@GMYSTERYICTNF 2 года назад
The Zombie virus seems to have some hyper evolving gene, zombies can evolve into Husks, Drowned, and Zombie piglins are fireproof, Even Skeletons can hyper evolve, into Strays and Wither Skeletons Also Skeletons are different from players which is why Music disks drop when they shoot creepers
@thetoilet9911
@thetoilet9911 Год назад
@@animo-_-animations2506 nothing is wrong, your are meant to create your own lore in Minecraft
@Cyborg_Lucas
@Cyborg_Lucas 2 года назад
This was probably one of your deepest videos. It’s so awesome.
@natashaleyva9503
@natashaleyva9503 2 года назад
Omg you definitely have some sort of background in music. Its so good and matches the video super well i cant believe you make it !
@LittleMushroomGuy
@LittleMushroomGuy 2 года назад
I always imagined that the Endermen are the "Ancient Builders" corrupted by the Ends low gravity, no sun and the End dragon later on, while the zombies and skeletons are just the dead being reanimated
@rosscalhoun3389
@rosscalhoun3389 2 года назад
I've seen the "zombie plague" theory before, and it completely overlooks the existence of SKELETONS. They suffer from sunlight in the same way, showing that they are of a common nature. But skeletons are clearly smarter, knowing to run to shade and can use vastly more complicated weaponry (bows). Its not like skeletons are just warn down zombies, because that wouldn't explain them being smarter and having bows.
@juliecraze9310
@juliecraze9310 2 года назад
@@rosscalhoun3389 Maybe there are two variants of the zombie virus? Both affect flesh and mind, but the horse virus affects mostly flesh (leaving only bone), while the pig/avian virus affects mostly mind (destroying all but the most basic instincts, except in piglins which have some resistance). Skeleton horses exist but not zombie horses, and there are no skeletal equivalents of zombified piglins, zoglins and whatever birds the phantoms were. Skeleton horses don't even attack the player, and they can still be ridden, so clearly they have some memory of their former masters. Zoglins will attack everything except creepers, and phantoms don't remember to seek shade either. I know this doesn't explain why the infected horses, hoglins and piglins don't burn. Maybe the horses and hoglins are protected by being bigger, so more volume to be burned compared to combustible surface area. Meanwhile, hoglins and piglins could be physiologically different due to being in the heat for so long, further enhanced by the virus's hellish origins.
@adikomali6657
@adikomali6657 2 года назад
Same
@awesomeness7423
@awesomeness7423 2 года назад
But why are they so tall
@CountDoDo
@CountDoDo 2 года назад
Yeah, this was a rly good video. When I watched it it seemed different to your other's though. There was more of a narrative and it was really interesting seeing how you fit all the pieces together. Although it shows I'm not the greatest theory creator, this is how I like to make my theories. See how all the evidence we have can click together and make it into a story. Great job again Retro, your videos are always high quality!
@Kucoz
@Kucoz 2 года назад
What a tremendous story. Mostly into this series just for the lore and perspective you add to my experience in Minecraft with every vid
@noammkw3770
@noammkw3770 2 года назад
after binging this playlist i sorta agree with this but i think theres more to it. i think the enderman built the fortresses, maybe so they could go back to the end, but the plague affected them too and made them become into wither skeleton. after the enderman and the builders abandoned the fortresses the piglins tried to get some of that netherwart so they can make potions of fire resistance (which they trade to palyers), and hunted alot of wither skeletons in the process. one day they decided to present the skulls they have gathered on a soulsand pedestool, and a disaster struck. the wither was summoned and destroyed the bastions, making them broken down as we can see them today. keep up the good work
@luMz0.
@luMz0. 2 года назад
another cool thing is that you can fish up things like fishing rods, bows and leather boots showing that there was once civilization.
@user-bv7zo6vd4m
@user-bv7zo6vd4m 2 года назад
as much as a cool detail this is it doesn't mmake much sence that there has passed so much time that all but the moat durable of buildings have been eradicated and yet things like tools and clothing remains completely intact chiling in the ocean
@jarlbalgruuf7701
@jarlbalgruuf7701 2 месяца назад
@@user-bv7zo6vd4mmaybe those items were more left by villagers or pillagers since they do posses those items
@beeness_
@beeness_ 2 года назад
i was so incredibly excited when i saw RGN upload this video, and i was definitely not disappointed. every time a reference from his old videos came up, for example the piglin, enderman and guardian theories, a wave of excitement just came over me. honestly, the coolest part was the camera shot above the center end island, right before the disaster named the enderdragon appears. how RGN builds up hype is so well done, this was one of my favorite yet
@Pharry_
@Pharry_ 2 года назад
I figured that the zombie virus originated in the overworld. Piglins and Hoglins are not immune, as they get infected as soon as they enter the overworld, implying its airborne. This means that the Villagers and the player are immune to the airborne strain, as we don't get infected immediately. The reason it's not that common in the Nether is because the heat kills the airborne strain. Also, I don't believe that the builders ever discovered a cure, as the weakness potion + enchanted gapple method only works on zombie villagers, not regular zombies. I do like the idea that Endermen are so betrayed by humans that seeing one sends them into a blind rage. That's a pretty cool concept.
@gaspoweredpick
@gaspoweredpick 2 года назад
I like how you combined all your theories into one. Well done!
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