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The Apostle Paul | The Eastern and The Western Jewish Diasporas 

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@TorahClass
@TorahClass 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for all your comments and for supporting this channel. May God richly bless you!
@kathyjames9250
@kathyjames9250 8 месяцев назад
My eyes are opened as to how variable the “Jewish perspective” can be! Thank you and Blessings from Canada 🇨🇦
@joshuastavos4376
@joshuastavos4376 8 месяцев назад
It’s all over the place, but there is only one TRUTH.
@leenie1176
@leenie1176 8 месяцев назад
I love when God clarifies my confusion on topics and this study clarified much!
@rudybriskar5267
@rudybriskar5267 8 месяцев назад
AWESOME! I am so grateful to have found your channel, it is of God that it happened. I am ready for fresh meat! I have always supported Israel, known that Yeshua was as well as being the TRUE Messiah was fully Jewish and that the Apostles were Jewish. I pray Israel, Jerusalem, the Pastors and Messianic congregations in Israel, for Divine protection of the IDF forces and victory over hamas, hezbollah the houthis and any other group or nation that rises against Israel.
@di70mi41li69
@di70mi41li69 8 месяцев назад
Shalom Mr. Tom Bradford, I thanked God for finding your enlightening blog, it is awesome. Only a Messianic Jew could give a very good explanation about some of Paul’s teaching. Some one who knows all the civil laws and traditional laws of the Jews during the time of Jesus. Because a lot of modern Christianity is doing away of the Law, meaning the Decalogue, that it was nailed on the cross when our Lord Jesus Christ was crucified, which is a lie! I was baptized by Elder Jacob Meyer of Bethel Penn. in the 80’s, but lost my faith for a while, and God guided me back last year. I find solace on finding your Torah Class, and Rabbi Jason Sobel to guide me in solo praise at home in Canada. Elder Meyer has a wonderful Commentary on Galatians regarding the Law conundrum. Thank you and God bless, Mary.
@theosolomon8319
@theosolomon8319 8 месяцев назад
Well this answered my desire to know what was being said by Paulin Galatians concerning the word law. Many of my friends do not understand Torah law and Rabenic law. Excellent break down of the two laws. Also interesting about the Western Hebrew speaking Greek and Eastern Hebrew, speaking Aramaic. Good lesson. Thank you.❤
@irenekwagala3796
@irenekwagala3796 7 месяцев назад
Very much an eye opener for me, I have always been confused about Paul's teaching and honestly avoided reading his writings. Thank you so much for enlightening us. May God continue to bless you. Shalom!
@Truth2ber
@Truth2ber 8 месяцев назад
Tom, the difficulty and complexity that Paul introduces can not be dealt with sufficiently without his own effort to do so being addressed: -test all things to Torah (Acts17:11), and -Paul’s definition of “Judaizers” which shallow readers misapply to refer to Torah teachers…when Col 8 & 20 reveal the error of Judaizers was the lawless logic, traditions and opinions of men and other deceptions which reject Torah…such as Pharisees, Gnostics, parts of Talmud and Jewish mysticism including Kabbalah…all of which are still being taught today by the same spirit under new names like New Age, Progressive, Prosperity, “seeker friendly” and ecumenism of every sort. Shabbat Shalom bshem YHVH Eloheinu and His Son Yeshua HaMashiach tsidkenu (Jer23:6, Prov30:4, Ex31:13esv/LXX)
@luciparadise6781
@luciparadise6781 8 месяцев назад
Excellent lecture. Thank you so much! 😃✝️🙏❤️🙌
@TorahClass
@TorahClass 7 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching. Shalom!
@dehsa38
@dehsa38 6 месяцев назад
Just like everywhere else; works versus relationship.
@michaelart4878
@michaelart4878 8 месяцев назад
💘
@seamusoraghaillach6973
@seamusoraghaillach6973 8 месяцев назад
Is this new or part of an older lesson? Usually there is several lessons on one topic. Has Tom started doing individual videos?
@maryraider4720
@maryraider4720 8 месяцев назад
Tom is now doing topical studies. Not books .. we’ll see where God takes him!
@seamusoraghaillach6973
@seamusoraghaillach6973 8 месяцев назад
thanks@@maryraider4720
@seamusoraghaillach6973
@seamusoraghaillach6973 7 месяцев назад
@@maryraider4720 It seems that the new videos are just past lessons.
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 8 месяцев назад
Paul introduced me to who he was: 1 Corinthians 15:9 - For I am THE LEAST OF THE APOSTLES and am UNWORTHY TO BE CALLED AN APOSTLE, because I persecuted the church of God. Acts 21:39 - But Paul answered, “I AM A JEW FROM TARSUS IN CILICIA, a citizen of no ordinary city. Now I beg you to allow me to speak to the people.” Acts 22:3 - “I AM A JEW, BORN IN TARSUS OF CILICIA, but raised in this city. I WAS EDUCATED AT THE FEET OF GAMALIEL IN STRICT CONFORMITY TO THE LAW OF OUR FATHERS. I am just as zealous for God as any of you here today. Philippians 3:5 - CIRCUMCISED ON THE EIGHTH DAY, OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, OF THE TRIBE OF BENJAMIN; A HEBREW OF HEBREWS; AS TO THE LAW, A PHARISEE; Acts 23:6 - Then Paul, knowing that some of them were Sadducees and others Pharisees, called out in the Sanhedrin, “BROTHERS, I AM A PHARISEE, THE SON OF A PHARISEE. It is because of my hope in the resurrection of the dead that I am on trial.” Acts 24:5 - We have found this man to be a pestilence, stirring up dissension among the Jews all over the world. HE IS A RINGLEADER OF THE SECT OF THE NAZARENES, Acts 24:14 - I do confess to you, however, that I WORSHIP THE GOD OF OUR FATHERS ACCORDING TO THE WAY, which they call a sect. I BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT IS LAID DOWN BY THE LAW AND WRITTEN IN THE PROPHETS, Because I believe what Paul told ALL OF US about himself... I know he DID NOT did not speak against the Torah... I know he DID NOT tell people to ignore the Laws of GOD because "now they were under Grace"... I am not like the Pharisees and Sadducees who FALSELY accused Paul of doing these things...
@JamesWilliams-sk3qj
@JamesWilliams-sk3qj 8 месяцев назад
That's really good research and assessment thank you! So just let the Apostle Paul explain who he is himself in the scriptures that he wrote. Paul knew Torah, preached Torah and lived Torah! Yeshua is the only one that lived the Torah perfectly because he is the Torah which is the word of God that was shouted down from heaven to Moses. Yeshua said that whatever Moses said to do that you must do. Yeshua said that if you love me then you'll keep my Torah..... Shalom friends
@charlesphillips5723
@charlesphillips5723 Месяц назад
QUESTION" Is this the explanation of the difference in Sephardi and Ashkenazi Jews?
@ChrisMusante
@ChrisMusante 8 месяцев назад
Professor? Can we now maybe chat about what we are allowed to eat... as spritual food? Waiting. Waiting. Waiting... 😔
@observer3090
@observer3090 7 месяцев назад
Leviticus 11 sets out what are clean and unclean animals, with unclean animals being creatures which are prohibited. Prohibited foods that may not be consumed in any form include all animals-and the products of animals-that do not chew the cud and do not have cloven hoofs (e.g., pigs and horses); fish without fins and scales; the blood of any animal; shellfish (e.g., clams, oysters, shrimp, crabs) and all other living creatures. This law has not changed. Talmudic prohibitions add to what is set out in Leviticus 11. Spiritual food includes but is not limited to establishing and enhancing your personal relationship with your Creator and Messiah through prayer, concerted Bible study to know Elohim on a deep level, fasting.
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 8 месяцев назад
Is this verse also indicative of the Western Diaspora? 3 Jon 1:9 - I have written to the church about this, but Diotrephes, who loves to be first, will not accept our instruction. 10So if I come, I will call attention to his malicious slander against us. And unsatisfied with that, he refuses to welcome the brothers and forbids those who want to do so, even putting them out of the church. People who apparently had one foot in Paganism and one foot in the belief of the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in additional to the Messiah Yeshua? These same people wouldn't even receive one of the ORIGINAL Apostles because he was "too Jewish"?
@stevenmcfarland3884
@stevenmcfarland3884 8 месяцев назад
Rabbi In 1524 the letter j was invented and added to the alphabet.If the letter j was invented.What was the original word for Jew..It comes from the word Judah a tribe.What year did;the tribe of Judah change into the term Jew? Also, Is it possible to be from 2 tribes at the same time?
@joshuastavos4376
@joshuastavos4376 8 месяцев назад
You are on the right track. In Hebrew, there is the tribe of Yahuda ( which means those who praise Yah/Yahweh) and where the word Yahudim is derived from ( of those who praise Yahweh). At the time of Yahshua ( meaning Yahweh’s Salvation), it was assumed that most surviving Israelites were from the Tribe of Yahuda and the collective word for Israelites became Yahudim. The other words use collectively throughout the Hebrew Bible ( Tanahk) are Israelites/ Bnai YisraEl, and Ivrim / Ivrit ( Hebrews from the Egyptian word Hebaru ( those who crossed over). The word Jew doesn’t exist in neither Biblical Hebrew nor modern Israeli Hebrew. It is a Vatican invention from ‘J’udah. Very sadly, most people calling themselves ‘Jews’ have no idea of the truth and the fake adapted word ‘Jew’ is reinforced by ‘Jewish’ leadership that works closely with Vatican interests. Neither this ‘Jewish’ leadership nor the Vatican wants ‘Jews’ to study the Tanahk nor the Gospel and works of the Apostles because this would put the Vatican and ‘Jewish’ leadership out of business if the TRUTH in the Bible were understood ( ex: the warnings of the prophets, the hundreds of commandments, the absence of Talmudic rules in the Bible, and the commandment to spread the Tanahk to the world ).
@joshuastavos4376
@joshuastavos4376 8 месяцев назад
My reply was removed by the censors. Yahudim was the collective word for Hebrew/ Bnai Israel in the time of Yahshua ( meaning Yahweh’s Salvation) because that was the main surviving tribe. Israelites and Hebrews are the accurate translations of what is used in the Hebrew Bible as well as the tribal affiliations. The word ‘Jew’ is a Vatican invention taken from the fake pronunciation ‘Ju’dah. The real title of this tribe is Yahuda ( meaning praise Yahweh and Yahudim means of those who praise Yahweh). I suppose my anger about how this deception of Israelites is allowed to continue is why my initial reply was deleted. Never underestimate the Inquisition.
@glenmiller6025
@glenmiller6025 8 месяцев назад
The same with the invented name Jesus which was spelled Iesous until 1611 in the bible. I don’t agree with changing the Messiah’s name from Yeshua to anything else.
@michaelart4878
@michaelart4878 8 месяцев назад
The Jordan, Euphrates, Bow and EL-bow are all rivers (H²O, waters) 🙌 ALLELUIA 🙌 Habakkuk 3:9 A-men' 🌿
@joshuastavos4376
@joshuastavos4376 8 месяцев назад
@@michaelart4878 HalleluYah!
@georgemooyman7155
@georgemooyman7155 3 месяца назад
When Paul speaks of the Gentiles, are they non Jewish or are they unbelieving Jews I.E. non practicing Jews?
@Jerald-o2d
@Jerald-o2d 7 месяцев назад
Maybe you can help me? I get the old testament is the history of the Jewish people, stories of there war god But the new testament I see as false doctrine, can you clear up who jesus's father is? And who is god the father I don't see either one of these in the Bible. Thank you look forward to understanding this
@TorahClass
@TorahClass 7 месяцев назад
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@TimKollat
@TimKollat 8 месяцев назад
I have an off topic question. If and when Israel builds a 3rd temple and reinstates the Levitical priesthood/Mosaic Law with all the temple rites and animal sacrifices, will all the Hebrew roots/messianic Jews take part in animal sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins and reject the sacrifice of Jesus since they want to be under the law? They take part in everything of the Mosaic/Levitical law that they can except for these things since there is no temple or priesthood otherwise you know they would all be there sacrifice goats and bulls for the forgiveness of their sins which would be rejecting Yeshua and his blood.
@YTCelt
@YTCelt 8 месяцев назад
Scripture is clear that the sacrifices WILL continue when Ezekiel's Temple is built. We also know that Paul made sacrifices when he took the Nazarite Vow. This clearly shows that it's NOT "rejecting the sacrifice of Jesus" to participate in sacrifices, otherwise that's what will be happening 24/7 in the upcoming Temple. It also would mean that Paul rejected Jesus, if you are correct.
@TimKollat
@TimKollat 8 месяцев назад
@@YTCelt so then you will disregard the blood of Jesus and replace him with animals? Where does it say Paul sacrificed any animals. I’d love to see this in scripture
@YTCelt
@YTCelt 7 месяцев назад
@@TimKollat You ignored what I said. This is not a good sign, but I'll try one more time. Ezekiel says there will be another Temple and the sacrifices will resume. I didn't write Ezekiel. It came out a few years before I was born. I'm not in charge of what it says there. You need to deal with EZEKIEL (and God who gave him the vision), and not me. Also, Paul took the Nazarite Vow. You just need to google a bit to verify this. The rules for the Nazarite Vow are in Numbers. Again, another book I did NOT write. Argue with someone named "Yahweh" and "Paul" to find out why what you believe just might not be right. Sacrifices took place before Jesus. Sacrifices will take place AFTER Jesus. NONE of this negates anything the Messiah did. If it did, God would not have told Ezekiel his plans or directed the Council to tell Paul to get the Nazarite Vow. Just put in a LITTLE effort, and control your passions. Don't simply react. The world has enough of that. Slow down. Think. Research. Don't come after me when you figure it out. I didn't do it. I'm just the messenger. 😏
@TimKollat
@TimKollat 7 месяцев назад
@@YTCelt When did Ezekiel write what he did about the temple being rebuilt? Before or after the 2nd temple was built? Think about that. Also what did Jesus and apostle say the true temple is now? So again Ill ask you. Will you go and take part in the atoning sacrifice of a bull if the temple is rebuilt and reject the atoning blood of Jesus Christ for the blood of a bull instead?
@YTCelt
@YTCelt 7 месяцев назад
@@TimKollat Wait, are you saying that Ezekiel made the actual prophesy, not God, and that therefore the prophesy has been rendered void? God didn't realize what was coming up in history? 🤔 The dimensions of the Ezekiel Temple are around three times as big as the second Temple. They're not the same Temple. Also, importantly, the Ezekiel Temple says the presence of God will be there like it was in the tabernacle and the first Temple. It was NOT there in the second Temple There's going to be another Temple. Scripture says so. GOD said so. You didn't interact with the fact that sacrifices continued after Jesus died. Paul too part in a sin sacrifice. It did not negate what Jesus did. Paul was told to do that by the same Council as appears in Acts 15.
@janetthompson3781
@janetthompson3781 8 месяцев назад
Is Tom Bradford doing any more studies of the scriptures.
@maryraider4720
@maryraider4720 8 месяцев назад
He has a plethora of studies .. go to Torah class and get ready to learn!!! 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
@janetthompson3781
@janetthompson3781 8 месяцев назад
@@maryraider4720 oh trust me I have studies them all.
@janetthompson3781
@janetthompson3781 8 месяцев назад
The question was is he doing anymore
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 3 месяца назад
All Christianity abuses Paul's epistles, decades after the Cross Paul warned of false teaching bewitching those already baptised, the false teaching is Christianity.
@forYAHSglory
@forYAHSglory 8 месяцев назад
Paul says 1 Corinthians 9:20 (KJV) And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; Jesus responds saying: 1 Corinthians 9:20 (KJV) And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
@forYAHSglory
@forYAHSglory 8 месяцев назад
Paul is anti-christ. Romans 8:3 (KJV) For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:1 John 4:3 (KJV) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. The likeness of flesh means not human flesh. The angels appear in the likeness of flesh. Jesus calls himself son of man that means fully human.
@forYAHSglory
@forYAHSglory 8 месяцев назад
2 Corinthians 12:7 (KJV) And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. Paul's is possessed with a demon that is torturing him. Will you follow a demon possessed liar over Jesus?
@forYAHSglory
@forYAHSglory 8 месяцев назад
Colossians 2:16 (KJV) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: GOD says to keep the Sabbath for all generations. And eating whatever Paul wants got hi a thorn in his side. Eating meat sacrificed to idols will do that to you.
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 7 месяцев назад
@@forYAHSglory I use Col 2:16 as evidence NOT to let anyone judge me in keeping the Sabbath... This is Exactly what Paul wrote... Paul was speaking to former heathens and pagans in Colossae... He was also telling them NOT to to let anyone judge me in keeping the Sabbath...
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 7 месяцев назад
@@forYAHSglory 2 Peter 3:15 through 17 - 15Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, AS THEY DO THE REST OF THE SCRIPTURES, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be CARRIED AWAY BY THE ERROR OF THE LAWLESS and fall from your secure standing.
@patriciastordahl1220
@patriciastordahl1220 8 месяцев назад
Paul was a Jew first this Aramaic was his first language. Please if he was Greek his first language would be Greek.
@joshuastavos4376
@joshuastavos4376 8 месяцев назад
Friendly Correction: Paul wasn’t of the tribe of Yahuda. He was of the tribe of Benjamin ( BenYamin…..son of the right hand….). He was a Benjamite ( BenYamim). Paul was a Hebrew. Paul was an Israelite ( Bnai Israel). Unfortunately, the Vatican has trained us to use their vocabulary and most of us live in partial darkness and ignorance because of failed ‘leadership’.
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 8 месяцев назад
@patriciastordahl1220 And yet Yeshua spoke to Paul in "Hebrew"... (Acts 26:14)
@joshuastavos4376
@joshuastavos4376 8 месяцев назад
@@bawbjusbawb6471 Amen! Amen! Amen!
@karenp.2316
@karenp.2316 8 месяцев назад
@@joshuastavos4376 Shalom, brother Joshua! I just wanted to clarify something. As a member of the tribe of Binyamin, Paul would've been of the House of Y'huda. The tribe of Binyamin was included with the House of Y'huda (1 Kings 12:21-23; 2 Chronicles 15:8, 9; 2Chronicles 34:31, 32). The remaining 10 tribes comprised the House of Yisra’ĕl, which became scattered in the Diaspora. While Paul was of the race (nation) of Yisra’ĕl, wouldn't he still be considered a Y'hudi?
@joshuastavos4376
@joshuastavos4376 8 месяцев назад
@@karenp.2316 Thank you sister Karen P.! I am sure that there is an inclusiveness as you say. I am only focusing on the falsehood of the word ‘Jew’ which has been a source of Vatican persecution and false segregation which is against Yahweh. I am so overjoyed to encounter you this way! I was late for YRM today but the service was so pertinent as usual. Shalom !
@prisciaquino4075
@prisciaquino4075 8 месяцев назад
Had the founders of the RCC chosen Paul instead of Peter as their apostle the RCC would probably turn out much differently than today, an apostate church!
@thomasmassey322
@thomasmassey322 8 месяцев назад
Are the RCC as you call it not apostate? God has his way through Peter and Paul... and the other apostles...
@joshuastavos4376
@joshuastavos4376 8 месяцев назад
The RCC would have twisted and mistranslated everything Paul wrote anyway….. they are only out for their worldly authority and to replace Yahweh and His Salvation with their false gods.
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 8 месяцев назад
What in the world are you talking about? The RCC "chose" Constantine as their "apostle"... APOSTATE from its inception... HOW would choosing Paul or Peter as "your" apostle change you? ALL of the Apostles were taught the same things... In turn, they also taught the same things...
@joshuastavos4376
@joshuastavos4376 8 месяцев назад
@@bawbjusbawb6471 Amen! Amen! Amen!
@thomasmassey322
@thomasmassey322 8 месяцев назад
@@bawbjusbawb6471 I doubt Constantine gave little choice as Emperor. I do have a bit more confidence in Peter and Paul. What am I talking about? Are you looking around?
@jeffreypogue2579
@jeffreypogue2579 8 месяцев назад
We need to understand that every word that Paul originally wrote, probably in Hebrew, was God breathed and in perfect agreement with Torah. Unlearned men without the true knowledge of Yahweh and His Torah were incapable of understanding Paul just like Peter said. Then the "early church fathers" turned misunderstanding into bad doctrines eventually giving birth to Roman Churchianity. Fast forward to today, we have false teachers like this dude still propagating the confusion and deception. When you know Yah, Yeshua, Torah and have the spirit within and you understand that we have corrupted translations of what Paul originally wrote, its pretty easy to reverse engineer what we do have so that Paul's writings become a treasure trove of truth. Having said that, I also want to say that this dude is probably the best false teacher online and a great resource for the lost knowledge of the jewish sages and historical background of Scripture.
@therighteousrighthand
@therighteousrighthand 8 месяцев назад
The Ronan Catholic church is largely based on the Gospel message and on what the apostles taught. Church structure may have been based on what Paul taught. Today's protestant church is largely baded on Pauline teachings. All of these churches have different theologies and and yet claim the know Yah, Yeshua and have His Spirit.
@jeffreypogue2579
@jeffreypogue2579 8 месяцев назад
@@therighteousrighthand Really??? What then is the gospel of Roman Churchianity🤔
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 8 месяцев назад
@jeffreypogue2579 "Having said that, I also want to say that this dude is probably the best false teacher online" Just because you say something, it does not make it true... Concerning Tom Bradford: You are DEAD WRONG! Tom Bradford is among of the BEST TRUE teachers online and NOT a false teacher!
@therighteousrighthand
@therighteousrighthand 8 месяцев назад
@@jeffreypogue2579 The sane as preached by Jesus..no variation.
@jeffreypogue2579
@jeffreypogue2579 8 месяцев назад
@@therighteousrighthand Give it to me because I don't actually remember Yeshua saying anything about the last rites🤔
@billbuyers8683
@billbuyers8683 8 месяцев назад
so try hard with your nonsense
@jlord9638
@jlord9638 8 дней назад
What are you talking about.
@msarver9771
@msarver9771 8 месяцев назад
Peter different have difficulty understanding Paul, he disagreed with it, just as Jesus disagreed withe the Pharisees and Saduccees. This was the first example of changes in doctrine and interpretation creeping into the Church. Christ founded his church upon his rock Peter. He did not establish a democracy. Paul did great work bringing the gospel to difficult populations far and wide, but he should not have argued with the Apostles.
@joshuastavos4376
@joshuastavos4376 8 месяцев назад
I disagree with certain translations and interpretations of Paul’s complex sentences removed from the entire passages where he always concluded that following Yahweh’s laws and commandments is following Yahshua. He was very concerned about motivations for following the laws and commandments and had no intention of abolishing them including circumcision on the 8th day after birth or the dietary commandments or appointed times commandments including the weekly Sabbath on the 7 th day.
@johnworby5130
@johnworby5130 8 месяцев назад
Yeshua was also a Pharisee otherwise He would not have attended Synagogues which were founded by them. Also the rock Yeshua referred to was not Peter but the ground where they were stood. You need to understand where they were at that time and why. They were in a pagan place where they used to throw babies into a cave worshipping at the gates of hell and they wert stood on this rock above it. Also not all Pharisees were bad, they tended to be too legalistic and missed the spirit of Torah but in the main He commended them and corrected their misunderstandings.
@michaelart4878
@michaelart4878 8 месяцев назад
💘
@bawbjusbawb6471
@bawbjusbawb6471 8 месяцев назад
@msarver9771 Yeshua is the ROCK that the Assembly was founded upon... Yeshua is the "chief cornerstone" (Ephesians 2:20), HOW can you make the claim that Peter the rock that "the church" was built upon? This claim that Peter was the "rock" that "the church" was founded upon is part of the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church. That way they could make the false claim that "Peter was the first pope". It is argued by the Catholic Church that the apostle Peter is the rock that the Church is built on. This is their primary defense for the entire Papal system and indeed the authority of the Roman Catholic Church. This statement below is built on it’s own rock - this one verse in Matthew’s gospel: Matthew 16:18 - And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. What is the “rock” that Yeshua tells Peter he will build his church on? The Catholic Church says it’s Peter and this is a position they have held for a very long time. For example, way back in 445AD, Pope Leo I justified his papal authority with these words: From Pope Leo I (Letters 10:1): “[Christ] wished [Peter] who had been received into partnership in his undivided unity to be named what he himself was, when he said: "You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church", that the building of the eternal temple might rest on Peter's solid rock” And in 451AD, the Council of Chalcedon describes Peter like this: “…The thrice blessed and all-glorious Peter the apostle, who is the rock and foundation of the Catholic Church, and the foundation of the orthodox faith.” Council of Chalcedon (Acts of the Council, session 3) The rock that Yeshua is referring to is the confession that Peter spoke about who Yeshua is. The fact that Yeshua is “the Messiah, the Son of the living God” is the foundational rock that "the church" is built on. Peter is NEVER in all Scripture referred to or thought of a the foundational rock of the church. You’d think that if that’s what Yeshua meant and it was so important, that it would be repeated elsewhere. But even in the other gospel where this story is repeated (see Mark 8:27-30 & Luke 9:18-20) the whole section about the rock is not even mentioned. This seems odd, if indeed this is the key verse that establishes the entire Papal structure of the church. The foundational rock that Yeshua's "church" is built on is not Peter, it is Yeshua himself. This along with the confession that He is the Messiah. And although there is no other Scriptural support for Peter being the rock, there is LOTS of support for Yeshua being the rock. Multiple times, Yeshua and the epistle writers quote Psalm 118:22 which says: The stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone. (Psalm 118:22) The cornerstone was the foundational rock that the building was built on. In other places like Romans 9:33, they talk about Yeshua by quoting Isaiah 8:14 which says: See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame. (Isaiah 8:14) If you’re looking for what or who Scripture says is the foundation the Church is built on, it speaks of Yeshua, NOT Peter. For example 1 Corinthians 3:9-11: For we are co-workers in God's service; you are God's field, God's building. By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Yeshua Messiah. In fact, the whole chapter of 1 Corinthians 3 is worth a read, because Paul specifically refers to Peter (or Cephas) and describes him as not one that Christians should say they follow as they are just “mere human beings” (1 Cor 3:4, 21-22). What did Peter think Yeshua meant? The most compelling proof is from the words of Peter himself. His first epistle is full of this language of foundational rocks and cornerstones, and he is always talking about Yeshua and not himself. I will leave you with Peter’s words: I want you to consider, in Peter’s mind, when Yeshua said, “On this rock I will build my church”, did Peter end up thinking Yeshua was talking about Peter or Yeshua? As you come to him, the living Stone - rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him - you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Yeshua. For in Scripture it says: "See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame." Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, "The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone, and the stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall."
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@@johnworby5130 Yeshua WAS NOT a Pharisee... Otherwise He would not have told His Apostles in: Matthew 16:6 - “Watch out!” Jesus told them. “ Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees." Pharisees were a product of a religion that came from Babylon... Yeshua came as the Son of GOD who taught AGAINST ALL traditions of men that were contrary to the Father's Laws... Yeshua allowed people to call Him "Rabbi" because this word meant "master"...
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