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@YeahTheMitchs 2 месяца назад

Luke, the MacBook Air got updated. Would you volunteer to go and get into credit card debt again for us please…? Just one more time. 👉👈

@joshuakolton9955 2 месяца назад

I thought you were kidding so I checked. Not kidding.

@DBLCreations 2 месяца назад

@@joshuakolton9955 If i have it correct, Apple will release new products every day of this week. 🙂

@goldmaste78 2 месяца назад

ikr

@bobweiram6321 2 месяца назад

The new MacBook Air isn't worth it based on the specs.

@lukemiani 2 месяца назад

Idk maybe 🥺👉👈

@Bigbookietookie 2 месяца назад

As professionals we just wanted the Apple silicon to support GPUs. Adding AMD 6800 series or Nvidia 4000 series card support would’ve made this an amazing product. Apple hates us tho.

@rightwingsafetysquad9872 2 месяца назад

I get that the Apple GPU wouldn't be able to work with AMD or NVIDIA as a graphics card, but it could still be used as a compute card. As good as Apple Silicon is, if you just need a lot of compute power no one is more efficient than NVIDIA and no one is more performant than AMD.

@MegaRyan123456 2 месяца назад

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 of corse it could work ..... they just dont want to bother to make it work

@rightwingsafetysquad9872 2 месяца назад

@MegaRyan123456 That may require hardware changes. Not allowing them as compute cards is purely software and they probably had to do more work to make it that way.

@tristanpaulpestano544 2 месяца назад

Depends. The field I am entering is more about CPU and RAM and not GPU. We have GB/core as the measurement needed. The files my field that I will work in will literally output big terabytes file. Crunching it will need a lot of CPU cores and RAM. M2 Mac Pro is almost perfect but it’s better for us to wait for a 1TB RAM Mac Pro with a possible 30+ CPU cores in the future. Imagine the capabilities of that.

@hakanyucel1639 2 месяца назад

Meehh You don't need AMD 5700 serie ore Nvidia 4000 series when M4 coming up M5 will change totally the market!

@MrCooper83 2 месяца назад

This is the reason why Im keeping my Intel Mac Pro. I got tons of memory, I can add almost unlimited amount of storage AND upgrade my GPU! Sounds like a much better deal to me.

@BrowneyFolf 2 месяца назад

That's just depressing.

@MoChuang343 2 месяца назад

lol upgradable storage. Exclusive premium feature on Mac. Standard across the rest of the industry.

@Steakkiller 2 месяца назад

With the $3k difference between the Mac Studio and Pro you could build a HUGE redundant 10 Gig NAS with a sizeable and fast NVME cache. I spent less than a grand on an Intel i5 powered NAS with two 14TB drives and a 500GB NVME cache SSD. In my opinion a fast storage server is the most sensible and future-proof option.

@dgw4049 2 месяца назад

you gotta believe Apple is gonna figure out how to glue together 2x m3 Ultra chips and create some differentiation for this machine. That's all it needs really to justify its price.

@lukemiani 2 месяца назад

Problem is when they do that they’ll tack another 4K to the price I bet 😢

@thewiirocks 2 месяца назад

No they don't. Apple wants this machine dead. It's too expensive to develop & maintain for a small subset of customers with specialized needs. They'll tax those users until they all convert off to other products like Mac Studio so they can finally kill the Mac Pro.

@JohnSmith-pn2vl 2 месяца назад

that is basically a given imo, it will happen for sure

@sjgrall 2 месяца назад

I suspect there were too many leftover Mac Pro chassis, and Apple had to find a way to fill them. 😂 All without reeeeally giving us expansion.

@TheKrisKing 2 месяца назад

They need a reason to charge double the studio, thats why this machine exists

@tamalchakraborty5346 2 месяца назад

They needed to show on paper that the transition is complete. The original planned Apple Silicon Mac Pro was discontinued before it hit the production.

@StaceyAyodele 2 месяца назад

THIS! XD

@lmauro 2 месяца назад

My dream was that Apple somehow created a modular compute unit that could be user-replaced, something like what Intel did on the nuc 9. That way you could keep the pcei lanes, and the case, but could upgrade the cpu/gpu/ram down the line.

@MrCooper83 2 месяца назад

Mac Pro 2019

@mendodsoregonbackroads6632 2 месяца назад

Yea that would have been good

@eliebouraad4361 2 месяца назад

Nice video format! Finally no more dynamic island intrusion !

@johnconniffe5234 2 месяца назад

Yep, the best thing about the current Mac Pro is the case. I can't rid of the feeling that Apple missed a huge opportunity here - if they had gone back to the "classic Mac Pro" concept of having a separate, replaceable CPU tray, they could have put the M* SoC on a card/module that slots into the backplane, and suddenly the extra cost of the Mac Pro over the Studio make more sense - you'd have to buy a new SoC module from Apple, and it wouldn't be cheap, but it'd give upgradability and justify the Mac Pro price as a longer-term investment.

@mendodave Месяц назад

Even if you had to take it to Apple to do that upgrade it would be cool. For that matter they should have an upgrade available for the 2019 Intel Mac Pro to upgrade to Apple silicon.

@griponreality254 2 месяца назад

The sad thing here is that you haven’t even seen what happens when you try to update when there’s pcie storage added. You have to manually unplug all non system drive storage from the mac pro to install upgrades (and possibly updates of significance as well). MacOs will basically tell you that it the drive isn’t a valid target because the macOS devs are so blind to this product that they didn’t account for it being used this way. The pro is that getting into the system physically isn’t as painful, but it still is awful knowing you have their halo product and it is treated like that. Also, not that it’s worth the cost, but no one ever talks about how much easier it is to de-dust the mac pro vs. mac mini or studio. If you live in hotter climates with greater humidity dust removal is a significant maintenance activity.

@EmeraldRook 2 месяца назад

This last year I replaced my 5,1 that I used as a home server (that was maxed out thanks to this channel) with a Studio and a Thunderbay 8 for the storage. Definitely overkill but fun and I generally keep devices a long time. As SSD prices come down and density goes up I'm looking forward to when I could combine everything back into one power efficient chassis. I expect I'll be waiting a bit.

@jimwebber7516 2 месяца назад

Luke, I think I agree with your potentially good assessment of the Mac Pro. In 2006, when I was running a prepress department (yes, printing presses!) I worked with the first Mac Pros and loved them for their serious design and expandability. Then in 2016, after retiring, when I was involved in a film documentary, I anticipated and drooled over getting back into a Pro-at the time it was the trashcan model. I could never afford it. And I didn't need to since MacBook Pros got continuously better. Now I'm in a place where my storage needs are expanding drastically with DAM from video and film digitizing. So I'm drooling again. It's about money as always. I'm more than three times your age but I don't have your resources. External nvme drives are where I'm at now, but I very much appreciate your efforts at coming up against Apple's class divide. You at least allow us a glimpse past the privileged walls of the palace.

@youngscoping7696 2 месяца назад

back in the day when storage upgradeability is obviously to all the Macs, I mean even the Macbook Air or Pro really can do that but now storage upgradeability on a Mac Pro, yes, the Mac Pro is a pleasure.

@MrCoords 2 месяца назад

Those things are too damn expensive!!

@cjadams7434 2 месяца назад

i built out the sandisk Blade SSDs and their 4 bay and single transport system setup. love them you can even raid them. great for the mac studio!

@BAADSessions 2 месяца назад

You wouldn’t even need PCIe slots in the “Mac Prudio” imho. Just some M.2 slots An m.2 slot in a MacBook Pro is the dream

@AttilaKozma 2 месяца назад

I like how your videos and character are developing. Keep up the good work!

@thelorax9622 2 месяца назад

Hey Luke - Just FYI, if you're going with Ernie, then it's Bert, not Burt. I still wish they'd made an iMac using the Pro Display XDR shell as a case - now that would be a good compromise between a Mac Pro and the Mac Studio (which I have)

@shapelessed 2 месяца назад

The Mac Pro "overflowing" with PCIe? Excuse me? I'm sorry, but this literally made me laugh. Don't get me wrong, don't think I'm a hater or whatever, but the M2 Max that's in there only has about 24 actual PCIe lanes (might be wrong by 2-4 lanes), which is literally what most 200$ Ryzen CPUs have had for years. All the slots you're seeing inside, except for I think just one or two, are wired through PCIe switches and share bandwidth. This is effectively like connecting two SSDs through the same thunderbolt connection. They will share bandwidth of that port.

@jeffhale1189 2 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing. Blessings on your day.

@letiziasparks2902 2 месяца назад

🤣😂 As always....Luke delivers useful information with comedy! Thanks for the video and I wish everyone well!

@elrey7608 2 месяца назад

You can just go with Thunderbolt storage for that 32 TB - there is no need to mount them over PCI since they are cold storage files, why do you need any more than PCIE x4

@dukeseb 2 месяца назад

What’s your backup solution…? Raid is not a backup

@geddonjt 23 дня назад

I have one of these and love it. In addition to the PCI storage, many people forget about the internal SATA storage. I recently put the sonnet cage in with 2 4TB Samsung evo SSDs for under $900 and it’s perfect.

@tipoomaster 2 месяца назад

Really needs an M3/4 Extreme to make it different from the Mac Studio

@yoshikinanami7434 2 месяца назад

Immediately remembered the Airport Extreme when you mentioned that naming, I miss those so much

@Deathignator 2 месяца назад

@@yoshikinanami7434 my whole house was powered on 2 Airport extremes, super wifi

@lol-di3tf 2 месяца назад

Even then, it wont match with Mac Pro 2019's RAM. Max itself is already so expensive to manufacture because of its die size which is bigger than 4090's die. Ultra? it's not just more than twice, it's way more than that. Too expensive and yet much harder to manufacture. That's the limitation of SoC. That's why Apple needs to ditch SoC for laptop and desktop because it only meant for mobile.

@cjeelde 2 месяца назад

@@lol-di3tfSoC is a compromise where you say goodbye to flexibility and future upgrades. The main advantage is the extreme memory bandwidth. That's my point of view. SoC is a good thing for Apple's consumer Macs. Not for the pro Macs. It's sad that we got no options. I really wish Apple can split this up! But Apple is doing SoC for one main reason: it's ALL about the money. This is why Apple is having monopoly for RAM and SSD upgrades. And this is why Mac Pro 2023 starts at 7000 dollar: so customers cannot buy it to save money on PCIe based SSD solutions. The best Macs ever was probably these ones: Mac Pro 2006-2012 (Tower) MacBook Pro 2008-2012 (Unibody) These Macs had affordable base models that you could upgrade a lot after purchase. The common thing about these models: Steve Jobs. The common thing about Apple Silicon: Tim Cook. Steve Jobs cared about Apple's economy but much more about the customers than Tim Cook is doing. Let's hope for a better future no matter if Tim Cook is CEO if another person is CEO.

@tipoomaster 2 месяца назад

@@lol-di3tf I'd wager their future is tiles/chiplets, as M3 Max doesn't have an UltraFusion bridge to make an Ultra

@matt_kelly 2 месяца назад

To be fair PCIE is a lot more reliable than Thunderbolt, Dave's Garage has a pretty decent video on why you might want to use a Mac Pro if you are planning to expand storage.

@jdsbkotevjk 2 месяца назад

luke lets do another retro bulk rebuild like the 2g iphones!!! polycarbonate macs??

@lorensims4846 2 месяца назад

Nice! You spend the money so we don't have to. Thanks!! Dave's Garage said pretty much the same thing, but he appreciated the ability to add high-speed networking cards. And extra storage that doesn't cost as much.

@Jarek. 2 месяца назад

3:02 - Harddrive cage for 200 USD, from ebay?!

@ImagineAS 2 месяца назад

I love my Mac Pro. I did the same upgrades as you, but have it maxed out besides the storage. Not sure if I will buy the new 2024 Mac Pro or stay on this. I will be tempted if its the new model.

@Errcyco 2 месяца назад

I wonder what their cost is to produce that case though.. that's gotta be like $700-$1,000 of that additional cost. From what I hear they are kinda bulletproof though at-least.. and gorgeous. I think mainly film studios are buying these.. never met a regular person with a modern one anyways. Neat video.. crazy howe cheap you can upgrade SSD yourself with name brand stuff versus what apple is charging.

@omarseneriz5577 2 месяца назад

After over 20 years with Apple, I decide to build my first custom PC for animation with two GPU. I will still keep my M2 studio for other task but not for animation. Apple is no longer a computer one could upgrade and difficult. I will be testing my new PC in the coming days.

@QWERTYQwertz852 2 месяца назад

Careful with the Raid Config. If one dies maybe all data is gone

@RichardFASmith 2 месяца назад

If they let you swap out the SoC it might be more appealing. Keep the case, power supply, etc… but when the MX comes out you could buy that. Also if they introduced support for non-integrated RAM as a back-up that would help as well. And finally if they sold GPU expansion cards that let you add more GPU cores as needed that would help. Then you have SoC for core components, but option to upgrade and expand over time.

@rightwingsafetysquad9872 2 месяца назад

Someone should make one of those stand/dock things that stacks with a Mac Mini/Studio with 4 x m.2 drives and maybe one with 2 HDD. I searched and found some that do 1 HDD and 1 m.2, but that's rather lacking. Storage just seems like a really bad reason to spend $3,000 for an empty box. QNAP just released a 5 * m.2 / ES1 box. It looks nice and I'm sure you could put a Studio on top of it, but it wouldn't be quite as neat of a stack. Works as either Thunderbolt or NAS which is nice.

@deffhaus 2 месяца назад

Have you tried the Sonnettech add-on chassis options for the Mac Studio? Like to hear your opinion on the performance comparison between the Mac Pro and Mac Studio SSD performance.

@cjadams7434 2 месяца назад

also slots are good for fiber channel cards or 10GB nas connections..and a blackmagic decklink card for color grading to a pro monitor

@titogreggy 2 месяца назад

Wouldn’t it be cheaper doing a MacBook Pro m3 pro connected to a 2.5 or 10 gig file server?

@KennethBDone 2 месяца назад

Hey Luke, last year i sold my 4th and last Mac Pro (a 2019 Intel 24 core) and got a Studio M2 Ultra. What a relief. After twenty years of super expensive Mac towers i'm not going back, not even for PCI lanes. Now i'm totally depending on TB3/4 ports, luckily the M2 Ultra has -just- about enough of them. My nvme raids aren't as fast as the PCI-card they were on in the 2019 MP, as you concluded. It turns out i don't need the extra speed. 2,7 GB/s is more than plenty for many layers of 4K in FCP. Plus, it does not heat up my room, electricity bill is much lower and i like the small form factor. So long, Mac Pro

@claytonberg721 2 месяца назад

As you're aware PCI lanes are possible through enclosures, should you need. I nearly bought a 5,1 in 2019, I'm so glad I didn't, the amount of real estate they take up, not to mention they are essentially large space heaters.

@KennethBDone 2 месяца назад

@@claytonberg721 ..and these enclosures also connect via TB, so speedwise, what's the point. Plus i no longer need dedicated capture cards or specific dsp hardware.

@definingslawek4731 2 месяца назад

You are running your ssds in raid0? Is apples 8tb ssd in Macs also raid0? I’m kinda scared to do raid0 but I’d love to have an 8tb main drive

@Denuwu 2 месяца назад

200 bucks for 1 dollar worth of metal and 1 dollar worth of cable just to connect a hdd/ssd thats crazy

@JohnSmith-pn2vl 2 месяца назад

then make it for that money and become a millionaire, srsly ppl have no idea about machining, manufacturing, cost and basically anything

@Denuwu 2 месяца назад

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl 💀💀💀

@TonyLasagna 2 месяца назад

The only thing I kinda hate about the nvme setup in my Mac Pro (2019) is the nvme drives being removable storage. Great card from sonnet and some nice Samsung drives, but man is that annoying. I gotta see if anyone has found a solution to that yet. Highly recommend the sonnet card if it works with the m series chips, four nvme per card. The lack of external gpu support is why I’m keeping this version, though it clearly smokes mine.

@Gael_AG 2 месяца назад

Actually you have an intermediate solution with the sonnettech duomodo modules that can be actually plugged to a Mac Studio

@harrysmbdgs 2 месяца назад

Be careful with those RAID configurations... If either drive fails, you lose ALL the data!

@manveersingh3241 2 месяца назад

fellow linus tech tips watcher i see

@peterwan7945 2 месяца назад

yea, one of colleague told me that he have heard a IT fellow forgot to backup their hdd data regularly with RAID 0. One Day, a drive failed, he lost 12 drive worth of data and is busy as hell just to recover that. my colleague said, before entering the IT industry, he find that funny, but now 🤯🤯🤯🤣🤣🤣

@harrysmbdgs 2 месяца назад

@@manveersingh3241 Affirmative! 😂 also a frequent user of RAID arrays, but never RAID 0

@harrysmbdgs 2 месяца назад

@@peterwan7945 Exactly, It’s fine as long as you backup, I think some people assume that’s what RAID does until something goes wrong!

@dukeseb 2 месяца назад

I’d like to know his backup solution

@fadeddave 2 месяца назад

Silly question, what do you use your hard drives for? Is it as simple as, edit and export on SSD? Store on hard drive?

@document6 2 месяца назад

Wow that’s impressive speeds from Ernie! 😮

@vinicio1089 2 месяца назад

If near SOC ram is so important, couldn't apple tap into something like dell's camm? Keep latency and speeds but also allow for repairability and upgradeability and support pci-e gpus aswell for heavier workloads

@gingerelvis 2 месяца назад

My problem with the Mac Pro (besides the price) is how much super fast storage do most workflows really need? A well speced Mac studio with a server or NAS for bulk storage and keeping on top of your file management is a much more logical and cost effective solution. When it comes to replacing the Mac you'll still have perfectly good server/NAS/DAS that most likely will be fully upgradeable if it needs it. The Mac Pro has become even more niche than ever appealing to a very small group of professionals where the OG cheesegrater was so flexible it could warrant a high price.

@technicallyme 2 месяца назад

Aw this reminds me I did the indie gogo for the dune pro case and I never got it 😢😅

@ladeluff_ 2 месяца назад

sweet vid Luke. nothing really new in here for me. but still enjoyable to watch :D

@alnicospeaker 2 месяца назад

On macOS it's still possible to create a "Fusion-RAID" where the SSDs buffer the slower hard drive RAID

@dmug 2 месяца назад

The observation you had that it's expandable and not upgradable in your first video is something I've certainly quoted many times. I really hope this is a weird stepping stone for something better and not as egregiously badly priced. Gotta get an ASM2824 controller or otherwise for multiple PCIe drives, like the Sonnet but who cares, just two PCIe slots instead of one.

@fabiankoller9739 2 месяца назад

You should look into the new usb4 nvme cases they can give you speeds upward of 3000mb/s...

@DBLCreations 2 месяца назад

Hi Luke, i completely agree with you! I have bought the 2019 Mac Pro. And on one hand, i'm still very happy with it. But if i want to get a "newer" GPU. Like the W6800XT (instead of my currently W5700XT.) I can't! Apple has discontinued these MPX modules all together! That really sucks. Also, i live in Belgium, so getting a decent MPX module somewhere is really difficult for me. The same goes with the RAM btw. Can't buy that anymore from the Apple store. And even if that does cost a lot of money, again, from where i am, there aren't much other options. This Mac Pro was truly the perfect Mac Pro! A beautiful machine, but it has nothing left to do anymore. Hopefully i will be able to buy some of these modules some day on ebay or something. With hopefully a working MPX module. I agree with you that Apple should make a little tower with one or two PCI-E slots in it and be done with it. Or just "forget" about Apple Silicon for the Mac Pro (everything on one die) and make it possible to have RAM & GPU's.

@shanemckenzie3862 2 месяца назад

It doesn’t have to be an mpx module. Any AMD 6800 or 6900xt will work. So if you have the stock mpx in there you could add the 2nd gpu in slot 3. Or you could add them via an eGPU connected via TB to the current mpx. I have 2 6800x duos in mine with 2 6900xt’s connected via TB. I could still get another full size gpu in slot 7 if I wanted.

@DBLCreations 2 месяца назад

@@shanemckenzie3862 Yeah i know, but the thing is that i need some extra TB3 ports as well and you can only get these with the MPX module.

@DengueBurger 2 месяца назад

11:30 yeah we need a micro-ATX middle ground between the Mac Studio and Mac Pro.

@scottkuzma125 2 месяца назад

What happens when you place those PCI/NVME devices into the x16 slots into the bottom of the motherboard? Those SSD cards should be capable of 5GB each, so having them in an x16 slot location may unlock even faster performance. Kind of confused as to why someone wouldn’t max out the highest channels first before going to the lower spec channels. Let us know, that easily makes for more content to bring us. 👍🏼

@sameerakhtari9962 2 месяца назад

hey luke, which nvme enclosure do you use???

@lthomas63 2 месяца назад

I thought for sure when the Apple Silicon version of the Mac Pro came out that it would have swappable SOC‘s so next year you could easily switch out to the M3 variance by just swapping SOC cards and do that every other year or whenever you felt like doing it.

@JohnSmith-pn2vl 2 месяца назад

swappable SOC, from apple? u serious xD

@claytonberg721 2 месяца назад

Yeah, as soon as I saw you trying to do the duel NVME SSD I knew you were doomed to fail. I have an old akito thunderbolt enclosure. Since m.2 NVME SSDs have gone down in price I moved away from the big spinning hard drives to 4 4TB NVME drives. Apple doesn't provide a driver for more than one m.2 SSD per card. Since I was already half in with the four NVME drives I just got 4 slot enclosure from OWC. So I've got an M1max studio with 16 TB external SSD storage, 1TB internal storage, and a spare PCIE slot. I may add a sound card, dunno.

@pjbuma13 2 месяца назад

So basically we need a Mac Studio pro

@daveh6356 2 месяца назад

The Mac Pro is definitely a missed opportunity. If it had an upgradeable CPU module/card for single/dual/quad Mx Ultras and Apple had produced a dedicated ray tracing card - it would be a machine of legend.

@namejust6287 2 месяца назад

I really looking forward M3 based Mac Pro. it will have AV1 Acceleration, Dynamic cache, Ray-Tracing support. i think current mac pro is just filler to keep the two-year arm transit promise.

@justanotherdave. 2 месяца назад

If you could switch out the motherboard for faster future processors at a cheaper cost than a new studio machine, and keep everything else in place, it might make more sense in a “pro” setting.

@EkLektro 2 месяца назад

except Apple doesn't really care about the professional experience. When my $4000 Macbook Pro died 2 yrs ago, it took Apple 28 days to fix it! If the SSD wasn't soldered inside, i could've just replaced it myself and continued working. @FreeYourMac1 is gonna tell more of these stories soon

@davidsherman3462 2 месяца назад

When are youmgoing to add a NAS?

@taidee 2 месяца назад

I feel like the Mac Pro is a malicious compliance device, Apple doesn't want to make it but since users who want Mac Pro still want it, they make it but they make one feel the pain so that they rather choose the closed up appliance devices.

@ItsTommiii Месяц назад

I think this is very good for anyone that is doing music production with AVID HDX cards or Universal Audio's UAD Accelerator Cards. Unfortunately that is the only reason why I am considering the Mac Pro over the Studio. I already own the cards. But if you are not a music producer or an audio engineer. Luke is 100% correct about this machine. It was almost a good Mac. If they allow video producers more freedom by adding additional GPU's that support metal this thing would be incredible.

@johndurg 2 месяца назад

Just get a Mac Studio + OWC Thunderbay Flex 8. Boom, instant PCIE + Storage expansion.

@zesta77 2 месяца назад

That gets you only the equivalent of 2 PCIe gen4 lanes *combined*, which is fine for some uses cases, but the internal slots will provide for much more bandwidth for even a single SSD, let alone several.

@dimitridjuric3886 2 месяца назад

How is the HDD tray for vibration absorbtion ?

@TheyRiseBand Месяц назад

"What am I paying for here, exactly?" --Every customer since the debut of the Macintosh platform.

@alienrefugee51 2 месяца назад

I mean, a smaller form-factor with a few PCIe lanes was what everyone was expecting from the beginning for the Apple Silicon Mac Pro, or was that the speculation for the 2019 model?

@mikewright2858 2 месяца назад

Only Apple could make upgrading SSD storage a state-of-the-art feature. My Gigabyte Z790 board has FIVE M2 slots .. and two internal SATA headers.

@InimitaPaul 2 месяца назад

Any updates on your Vision Pro? I was listening to MKBHD’s podcast and he was saying he doesn’t use it much now due to the lack of apps, I don’t see an upgraded VP being released for a few years as you guys with the gen 1 will be piiiiissed if the tech improves and you’ve barely had the chance to properly enjoy the gen 1. I assume we’d all know by now if your VP’s front glass had cracked down the centre like others have.

@ghost-user559 2 месяца назад

Realistically the internet is the app at this point. Like using your desktop and iPad apps that already exist. Sad but still useful.

@olorin11 2 месяца назад

Luke tell us what is going on with your Porsche cayman with Apple CarPlay ?

@q43z 2 месяца назад

RAID 0!! You absolute lunatic 😂

@bonafontciel 2 месяца назад

Order one and returned. Still using my 2019🎉

@svenisaksson3970 2 месяца назад

Or buy a Mac Studio and a Sonnet xMac Studio Echo III chassis. You'll save a lot of money, and you get to rack mount your Mac as well. That's what I plan to do, when the M3 Mac Studio comes out.

@ghost-user559 2 месяца назад

You dont get the pcie though do you?

@svenisaksson3970 2 месяца назад

@@ghost-user559 Yes, you do. You get 3 PCIe slots. That's what the Echo III part is. There are also 1 & 2 PCIe slot options avaialble. Getting access to PCIe slots is the whole point of the product.

@realmatthewch 2 месяца назад

So what you are saying is for $500 more than a Mac Studio with 8TB, you can get a Mac Pro that also has 8TB (3rd party) but then also has room to expand into the dozens of TBs without any sacrifice in storage speed. Plus has dual 10GBe ethernet, supports pro audio and encoder cards. Its almost like its designed for people who work on TBs of AV files and need the absolute top performance locally and over a network.

@tonytech5520 2 месяца назад

Another advantage of the Mac Pro over the Mac Studio is the convenient access to its interior, allowing for easy removal of accumulated dust.

@Thatsmantas 2 месяца назад

Why not OWC Accelsior for expansion? it has 8x m2 slots, and can hold up to 64TB

@shanemckenzie3862 2 месяца назад

Agreed. Plus that and the Sonnettech one will boost the speed for each nvme via an onboard switch.

@franciscofiallos661 Месяц назад

it would be great if you could upgrade the soc in the future with an M3 Ultra without having to get an entire new machine.

@ChristopherBurtraw 2 месяца назад

"We will call it Burt" Ayoooooo!

@TwanJaarsveld1 2 месяца назад

i really hope the EU makes storage replacement mandatoryon in any Computer

@King_K_Rool_ 2 месяца назад

New hairstyle looks cool!

@Itsraminstech 2 месяца назад

Woah that’s a big RAID

@sklynexd 2 месяца назад

How to get the black magic speed test on windows?

@HiFiInsider 2 месяца назад

I wish Apple makes a smaller box with the same design.

@edharris6452 2 месяца назад

I know others disagree, but I still think that Apple should go modular with the CPU - and make them dual. They did it with the G4, and it was a great solution since Apple have control of both hardware and OS. Most companies with Mac Pros don't want to reinstall their cards and drivers plus sell their computers whenever they want to upgrade. Instead, have a module swap program. That makes for easy upgrades with one or two M3 Ultra modules. And One More Thing.... Offer an AI card with high speed bus to the modules. Apple is leading the industry with unified memory architecture, so imagine a card with four low wattage chips, each with 4 ANUs, each of which are double the speed of the current version. Then add multiple custom MLX ASICs for accelerated training (like Google's TPU, but local) and all sharing say, 48gb of memory each with a basic M3 core for overhead. Now you could compete with A100 inference and training speeds at a fraction of the cost (say, $2,500). Hey, a guy can dream...

@annsophiefans1472 2 месяца назад

Nobody and I mean nobody loves Macs more than Luke Miani, you might say he is their biggest and best customer. And even he is getting burned out on the "triple Apple Tax" of (a) high cost of entry, three thousand dollars just to buy a machine (b) high cost of upgradability when off-the-shelf costs about one tenth the price, and (c) 30 percent Apple tax on all apps and music / movie downloads. If their very best customer is finally fed up, perhaps the bubble has finally burst and a crash is at hand. What I am saying is, SELL YOUR AAPL NOW.

@_SP259 2 месяца назад

i cent seem to find this anywhere but i would love to see a video of this machine running Windows on Arm, potentially with a graphics card installed. In my head i cant think of a reason why the apple silicon cant run a GPU natively other than the lack of drivers. Windows however Has GPU drivers for ARM. So it may work??? Ive tried looking for a video about this and havent found anything. Unless apple has a weird setup with the PCIE lanes, I feel like it should work

@JohnSmith-pn2vl 2 месяца назад

why would you wanna do that

@mk500 2 месяца назад

A studio with 2 separate thunderbolt SSD drives should be able to do 5000MB/s in RAID 0. A little slower and uses up two ports. You could add a third…

@acidtechno 2 месяца назад

there are a few options for piggy backing ssd nvme to pcie , but they do cost a bit , sonnet do a x4 piggy , and theres a 2x nvme for macpros 5,1 7,1 should work in the new 2023 pile . :[ 5,1 4ever. :]

@EElgar1857 2 месяца назад

The bifurcation issue is infuriating, and my guess is that Apple did it on purpose. I bought a perfect, used 2019 M.P. and was shocked to find out about this. Other than that, it's a nice machine. Great video, Luke!

@knows86 2 месяца назад

america is so yesterday in Australia. Where is the new M3 air review?

@HVDynamo 2 месяца назад

Apple has continuously screwed up the Mac Pro since 2013. I always wanted to get one, but when the 2013 one was introduced I was just finishing up college and couldn't afford it (and didn't like the lack of internal expansion aside from liking the overall design). Then I was excited when the 2019 was announced until I saw the price, and now with the current one the price is still steep, but it's less up-gradable than the 2019... I would have bought one if they where reasonable about it.

@adam872 2 месяца назад

Could you not buy a Studio and then an external PCI-E cage and upgrade that way?

@Folsomdsf2 2 месяца назад

No, if oyu wanted an apple device you'd buy a studio and then.. you could literally afford an entire other machine to act as a NAS with backup and tons of features that.. apple just doesn't support!

@adam872 2 месяца назад

@@Folsomdsf2 that then becomes a question of what I/O performance you're chasing. If you decide to go with a NAS or something like it, you're going to be bandwidth limited to 10GbE, assuming you're delivering the storage over Ethernet. If that's a problem then TB3/4 connectivity to an external array or the aforementioned PCI-E cage would get to a theoretical 40Gbit

@epereyralucena Месяц назад

intel mac pro may not be as fast, but its expandable. wich for pro users, its key

@wertywerrtyson5529 2 месяца назад

You used to be able to upgrade storage in a Mac Mini. The fact that you can in the Mac Pro doesn’t help people who can’t afford the €10k for the Mac Pro.

@Mooooooof 2 месяца назад

It’s nice being able to add extra storage via PCIE but comes at such a massive cost. I guess the cost doesn’t matter to most businesses or pros it’s aimed at

@annsophiefans1472 2 месяца назад

It's all a huge gigantic myth. A jar of my urine costs $10,000, because it is in high demand from businesses and professionals. However, since we are such good friends Moooof, you can buy it for only $3995.

@JohnSmith-pn2vl 2 месяца назад

no you have no idea how big business works, it's about the warranty and service, reliability. thats where the money is. jsut look at dell or hp workstation, they are not cheaper at all.@@annsophiefans1472