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The arms race between air attack and air defence 

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The course of warfare throughout the 20th century has been dominated by air power. From the early biplanes of the First World War to the massed bomber formations of the Second, air power has been used to scout and attack enemy forces, dominating the theatre of war. This has led to an arms and technology race between air attack, and air defence.
Following the Second World War, and later into the Vietnam War, a new concept of aerial warfare was developed - the Suppression of Enemy Air Defences. SEAD would see the integration of technologically advanced systems to destroy the enemy’s ability to defend itself from the air.
In this video, Robert Rumble takes a look at two pivotal conflicts of the 20th Century, and how they were key in the development and evolution of SEAD.
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@pjbth
@pjbth Месяц назад
2:58 Thank you for using the proper wording
@flybeep1661
@flybeep1661 Месяц назад
hear hear!
@jacksonwood229
@jacksonwood229 29 дней назад
I was not expecting it and greatly appreciate that he didn't even hesitate.
@benbristow8412
@benbristow8412 29 дней назад
@@jacksonwood229 hell yeah
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 28 дней назад
@@jacksonwood229He's British, swearing is one of our national pastimes.
@jacksonwood229
@jacksonwood229 28 дней назад
@@owensmith7530 I wondered where Australians got it from
@colonelblastpack169
@colonelblastpack169 28 дней назад
the way he explains BUFF with his proper British accent and deapan university lecturing voice is pure gold.
@gojithecringe
@gojithecringe Месяц назад
B-52s nickname is a treasure
@Samuftie
@Samuftie Месяц назад
2:58
@andrewemery4272
@andrewemery4272 Месяц назад
The Baby Killer
@pyro1047
@pyro1047 29 дней назад
I prefer the C-5 Galaxys of "Linda Lovelace", if you know you know, especially if you know why/which features and abilities got it that nickname and how it correlates. But for your BUFF fix, the C-5's alternate nickname is simply "FRED" or "F**king Ridiculous Economic Disaster" due to its severe and constant cost overruns when initially introduced. At least it's not as insulting as the SLUF (Vought/LTV A-7 Corsair II).
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 29 дней назад
I'm pretty sure it didn't end in "-er." Just saying.
@martinbrode7131
@martinbrode7131 26 дней назад
A treasure? Are you nuts, man?
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 Месяц назад
Y'all deserve a like just for saying what BUFF stood for without chuching up.
@jonathan_careless
@jonathan_careless Месяц назад
5:20 This was unbelievably dangerous and Wild Weasel Pilots referred to this as "Hunting elephant guns with elephants." 😕
@bushidotenshi
@bushidotenshi 29 дней назад
Very funny! But these elephants are equipped with electronic countermeasures and long range missiles!
@willcutty
@willcutty Месяц назад
b52 =buff........love it
@RingoBars
@RingoBars 29 дней назад
Just here to add my voice to the chorus of: “thanks for using the proper naming for the BUFF” lol
@MadMatt13
@MadMatt13 28 дней назад
Maxim respect for using the full namet crews used. History like that should always be remembered. Thank you.
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 29 дней назад
My visit to Duxford was one of the highlights of my trip to the UK two years ago. Still have fond memories.
@MaxPower-11
@MaxPower-11 26 дней назад
Unfortunately, this video completely skipped over the most pivotal SEAD campaign of the 20th century: Operation Mole Cricket 19, which the Israeli Air Force carried out in 1982 - halfway between the Vietnam War and the Gulf War. It set the standard for SEAD campaigns worldwide that followed. The Israelis developed the comprehensive SEAD strategy that was carried out during that operation over the span of a decade following their almost total failure to destroy soviet-supplied AA systems from the air during the 1973 Yom Kippur War (and the resulting degradation of the IAF’s capabilities during the 1973 war due to this failure).
@mynorsdiscord
@mynorsdiscord Месяц назад
Never thought I’d hear swearing on this Chanel 😂
@bloke755
@bloke755 Месяц назад
Fook yeah !! 😆
@GNRtommy
@GNRtommy 28 дней назад
It certainly elicited a giggle from me.
@I8ASUPRAforLUNCH
@I8ASUPRAforLUNCH 26 дней назад
Curiously refreshing.
@Aeronaut1975
@Aeronaut1975 Месяц назад
"SEAD" is usually pronounced as "seed", as opposed to "S-e-a-d" (for brevity). Hats off for not bleeping out what the acrony of "BUFF" stands for. Also, no mention of the F-111 Raven?!
@danbuck11
@danbuck11 26 дней назад
Seems to have been a piece centered around the exhibits the IWM has in Duxford and sadly they don't have a F-111
@vincentearlcarteriii1296
@vincentearlcarteriii1296 13 дней назад
I'm glad someone said it!
@RuskiVodkaaaa
@RuskiVodkaaaa 17 дней назад
2:58 anyone else burst out laughing how random and unexpected this just was lmao
@54mgtf22
@54mgtf22 29 дней назад
Always interesting. Thanks IWM 👍
@markwray3905
@markwray3905 Месяц назад
Thanks for posting 😊
@timgosling6189
@timgosling6189 Месяц назад
For reference, those in the business pronounce it as in 'Seed'. No one I know ever spelled out the acronym. 'See-ad' was as close as it got. 'Radar-hunting precision munitions' are not smart bombs, although smart bombs may be used to attack radars. As far as I know all specific anti-radar weapons, such as HARM and the old ALARM and Shrike, are missiles, not bombs. Remember that the key to ARMs is to release them outside the engagement zone of the threat system; that's hard with a bomb. When mentioning radar-based defences, it's a shame you show a manually-aimed ZSU-23/2. The SA-2 warhead was not 'F-R-A-G'. The 'Frag' is a contraction of 'fragmentation', not an acronym. The damage mechanism, as far as I remember, was expanding rod with a lethal radius of 100+ metres. But it would not detonate 'a blast of shrapnel forward of the aircraft'; that would be what we call a miss. The fragments actually follow an expanding conical path ahead of and around the missile, fusing timed so that this cone will intersect the target. On the use of HARM, making the enemy shut down to avoid destruction is suppression, but only temporary. If possible DEAD is always better. In Gulf War 1 the Iraqis certainly did not have the latest Soviet equipment. We were very fortunate that we were up against an IADS largely comprised of relics from 20 or 30 years earlier, with only the odd Roland thrown in. SA-10, for instance, could have made a massive difference due to its ability to put missiles in the air without exhibiting tracking modes, and HOJ terminal guidance that would have made the then conventional ECM ineffective. And that leads on to my main point: SEAD does not make enemy air defences useless'. Against a peer or near-peer adversary it can give local/temporary air superiority and, as with other military domains, there is a constant swing between weapons, tactics and countermeasures. Modern SAMs can be highly mobile and the unexpected 'SAM trap' is still a major hazard. Please stop saying 'S-E-A-D!
@john_in_phoenix
@john_in_phoenix 29 дней назад
Rumor has it that JDAMs are being sent to Ukraine with seek on jam guidance. May just be a rumor. I was under the impression that expanding ring warheads were implemented in the past 30 years.
@Tinderchaff
@Tinderchaff 22 дня назад
Like you I am rather disappointed with the videos coming out of Duxford. They contain several errors; some visual, some verbal. Unfortunately this isn't the first I have seen and has put me off them. Considering their use of language, which many people have picked up on, it could have gotten them a warning from YT at the very least as they don't like swearing. Talking of bad language, the motto of the earliest 'Wild Weasels' was shortened to YGBSM or 'You Gotta Be Sh*ttin' Me!'. Apparently one of the first phrases they said when they heard about the mission for the very first time. Back then they did not have missiles and solely used dumb bombs and rocket pods to engage the radar sites.
@pancho1993
@pancho1993 25 дней назад
Much appreciated the buff nickname, explanation. You have my respect! 😂
@rolandvoss3600
@rolandvoss3600 28 дней назад
Very educational 👍 Thank you!
@natheriver8910
@natheriver8910 13 дней назад
Very interesting 👏 👏 👏
@r2crowseye
@r2crowseye 29 дней назад
6:08 i love that the Thud is mentioned. 😍
@LmgWarThunder
@LmgWarThunder Месяц назад
Never even thought about the potential for anti-radar missiles to exist let alone be employed
@dedwoodgaming6119
@dedwoodgaming6119 Месяц назад
I love your museum
@PP266
@PP266 29 дней назад
One of the greatest history channels there is. No quacks working for unknown universities in China and selling Wikipedia facts.
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 15 дней назад
Phantoms are fine looking planes.
@Bobby-fj8mk
@Bobby-fj8mk 22 дня назад
The doco misses an obvious question - why weren't the Wild Weasel aircraft shot down by the SAM sites? It seems a bit dangerous to be flying around a SAM site in a war.
@ajcrisologo2995
@ajcrisologo2995 29 дней назад
Are forgetting something like the f100 and f105 used the first anti radiation missle called the AGM-45 Shrike and the AGM-78 Standard ARM
@orionred2489
@orionred2489 Месяц назад
i remember an interview with a weasel pilot, and they said when they turned on the ecm, the plane would crackle and your hair would stand up.
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 15 дней назад
“Buff” - I literally, not figuratively, lol’d at that.
@bilalabdi9148
@bilalabdi9148 18 дней назад
That thumbnail was somalia before Civil War, what a great nation 😊
@OZOZOZ968
@OZOZOZ968 Месяц назад
Love these videos from the IMW!
@dean42bean
@dean42bean Месяц назад
imperial mar wuseum
@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 9 дней назад
Some conflict in the Middle East 67, 73 and 82 at least.
@houm7571
@houm7571 19 дней назад
Yeah, the good old days. A quarter of a century ago, I could bench press 200 pounds.
@N_Wheeler
@N_Wheeler 29 дней назад
1:50 that B-52 is carrying the X-15 (?)
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 28 дней назад
I thought that too.
@shlomomark2275
@shlomomark2275 Месяц назад
You failed to mention 2 other conflicts that were essential for the creation of an efficient anti - anti aircraft missiles: The 1973 Yom Kippur war and the 1982 First Lebanese war. Operation Mole Cricket 19 on June 9th 1982 was the model used later in 1991 to destroy the Iraqi SEED
@ianbell5611
@ianbell5611 25 дней назад
God Damn....
@ivanstepanovic1327
@ivanstepanovic1327 27 дней назад
Rendering it useless... That's an overstatement... Once the US tactics to counter air defense were known, counter tactics were developed. And while the air defense wasn't able to function with impunity, it pretty much remained functional... For example, NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, after the Iraq war... Yugo forces knew how long the radar was to be turned on, made false radar positions and radiation... So HARM missiles in most cases went for decoys. And in the middle of all that SEAD, a semi-mobile SAM system S-125 (SA-3) managed to shoot down an F-117. Also, several other planes were either downed or damaged and Yugoslav air defense remained functional through the entire war...
@russchadwell
@russchadwell 28 дней назад
Call sign? ... Bob.
@tomfu9909
@tomfu9909 15 дней назад
Well, Iraq was not eqiupped with latest Soviet technology. Ukraine in 2022 is closer to what USSR had in late 1980s and as we see, they were able to deny air sapce to much advanced Russian Air Force
@terrysparrow2180
@terrysparrow2180 4 дня назад
"If one element is missing, the whole concept of SEAD comes apart" Russians are like "Cyka Blyat dat too complicated, we just fly planes. Why we cannot suppress SAMs?!?" 😂
@chadimirputin2282
@chadimirputin2282 Месяц назад
The hypersonic shovel has created a problem for modern day AA defence platforms and systems which can't be countered currently.
@occamraiser
@occamraiser 24 дня назад
Interesting insight into the impact the Gulf War had on the end of the Soviet Union. Let us hope that the failure of the 'second best army in the world' to become the 'best army in Ukraine' will have similar consequences.
@hantykje3005
@hantykje3005 Месяц назад
@Imperial War Museum: Im surprised the parallell between ww2 era bomber streams and and 21st century missile and drone swarms are not mentioned. The idea is the same send enough weapon systems through an area and rend any fighter and gun/missile defences insufficient to deal with the attack.
@juusotee4340
@juusotee4340 Месяц назад
Hi
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 Месяц назад
I can't remember if it was Operation Linebacker or Rolling Thunder, but bc of the massive bombing runs, the North was days away from surrender, we just didn't know it.
@owensmith7530
@owensmith7530 28 дней назад
I doubt that, do you have a reference?
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 28 дней назад
@@owensmith7530 I honestly don't. I can't support it with references or any of the such. But it the one that was constant bombardment for weeks and weeks around the clock with B-52s along the Hochi Minh trail. They were super close but we let up too soon and abandoned the concept bc we didn't think it was having the effect we were looking for.
@garylane9775
@garylane9775 15 дней назад
Ukraine's current offensive against Russian air defense (SEAD) will help achieve a renewed Ukrainian offensive using advanced aerial weapons provided by the West.
@asavelakuse6865
@asavelakuse6865 20 дней назад
Deny the sky
@biaduy8760
@biaduy8760 22 дня назад
I come from Vietnam And the Americans failed in my coutny skies, the US Air Force absolutely failed to defeat Vietnam
@Essah15
@Essah15 24 дня назад
Radar hunting precision munitions are Anti-Radiation missiles, not Smart bombs, and its a frag warhead, (from fragmentation) not EF AR AY GEE.
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 Месяц назад
BRUH!
@onenote6619
@onenote6619 Месяц назад
You are saying that SEAD makes Air Defence useless? You might want to mention that to all the pilots shot down in the Gulf War.
@nightjarflying
@nightjarflying 29 дней назад
He didn't say that though
@prfwrx2497
@prfwrx2497 29 дней назад
SEAD won't make for zero aircrew casualties. SEAD does enable for air supremacy. Look what happened to Saddam's vaunted army courtesy of coalition air power, brought to you by SEAD. Air defense is considered useless if it can't achieve air denial.
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh 29 дней назад
You should do some research before commenting. During the 1991 Gulf War, the coalition forces lost a total of 75 aircraft. Of these, 52 were fixed-wing aircraft, and 23 were helicopters. Interestingly, only 42 of these losses were due to Iraqi action, while the remaining 33 were lost due to accidents. Iraqi anti-aircraft defences, including man-portable air-defense systems, were surprisingly ineffective against enemy aircraft, contributing to the relatively low number of losses. An estimated 407 Iraqi aircraft were either destroyed or flown to Iran and permanently impounded there.
@lachlanchester8142
@lachlanchester8142 28 дней назад
He literally said the planes that had sead capabilities only had 1 shot down
@onenote6619
@onenote6619 26 дней назад
@@lachlanchester8142 He did. But he also said that Mirage and Tornado carried out SEAD missions. Which is untrue. JP233 (on the Tornado) and Durandal (on the Mirage) are runway denial munitions, not SEAD.
@Shinzon23
@Shinzon23 Месяц назад
Anyone kind of feel a bit weird that he actually called it by what the air crew called it and didn't censor the word at all?
@nightjarflying
@nightjarflying Месяц назад
No
@TCK71
@TCK71 27 дней назад
Not in the slightest snowflake.
@bitferret-rx5rn
@bitferret-rx5rn 19 дней назад
he said the Gulf war played a role in the fall of soviet union... its a palpable lie
@tysonator5433
@tysonator5433 29 дней назад
Ukraine needs this tech, and capability to suppress Anti Aircraft systems. In order to gain air superiority over the Russians.
@douglasjohnson4382
@douglasjohnson4382 27 дней назад
Swearing makes him feel like an adult.
@Kirk1914
@Kirk1914 29 дней назад
OMG. Did I hear the IWM say that SEAD contributed to the fall of the Soviet Union. How incredibly shallow.
@bikenavbm1229
@bikenavbm1229 29 дней назад
agreed bit silly that bit
@lachlanchester8142
@lachlanchester8142 28 дней назад
No you didn’t, he said it was a part of the loss of soviet military power, which was a part of the fall of the ussr, try listening a bit harder next time
@redjacc7581
@redjacc7581 Месяц назад
The war in Ukraine has shown that attack helicopters and CAS (close air support) are redundant due the lethality of AA systems.
@Chilly_Billy
@Chilly_Billy Месяц назад
Wrong. You're dealing with two countries using very similar if not identical equipment. All capabilities are know to both sides. Neither has a significant advantage in technology or capability over the other. Replace either side with Western tech or capability and it's game over. Case in point, Israel's total domination over Russian anti-air defenses in Syria.
@Wild_Danimal
@Wild_Danimal Месяц назад
I also have ridged opinion
@flybeep1661
@flybeep1661 Месяц назад
This is wrong.
@Ubique2927
@Ubique2927 29 дней назад
Wrong.. The useless Russian equipment, strategy and tactics are the problem.
@user-xj6rr3yv8q
@user-xj6rr3yv8q 22 дня назад
So now I am going to hear the F word from the IWM? Really? So I will not have children listen to your channel.
@margin606
@margin606 Месяц назад
Wash your mouth out with soap and water
@bjorntorlarsson
@bjorntorlarsson Месяц назад
WARNING! Content unrelated to the headline. This is a spam video.
@jimmers123
@jimmers123 Месяц назад
Try watching.
@Ubique2927
@Ubique2927 29 дней назад
Yours is a spam comment.
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