These pedals stimulate what a brake feels like in the pits, not while racing. Real race care drivers have spoken about the brakes feeling like a brick in the pits but when driving the brake feels a lot softer because of the inertia pushing on your leg which helps to load the pedal. Sometimes replicating realistic numbers can create an unrealistic environment.
Can you please provide measurements and formulas for that rubbish claim? If you believe the g-force pushes a drivers brake I don't know what else to say. Maybe they also hold on to the steering wheel so they don't get thrown out the window during cornering then? Maybe some of those drivers should've taken a physics class instead. If inertia pushes the break for them, strapped into full frame carbon seats, maybe they can also generate electricity from looking into the mirror. But fine, so in other words: buying full frame carbon seats for sim rigs is ok. Buying stupid fire proof FIA licensed racing gloves is ok. Buying racing shoes is okay. Some very respected members even sitting there in full suits is okay. Brands hyping their "true to real" equipment or even advertising with "real driver" crap is also fine. But buying pedals that are a bit harder to push is not fine anymore. Gotcha. It's funny how the simracing community can't make any sense at all.
Love the review! Yeah using shoes with the Asetek Invicta is almost a must imo. Tried myself to not use socks when i got used to them, but quickly switched over to shoes. Have also seen people use sandles, tho havent tried that yet, but that could help with the summer heat 😄
Interesting view, but here is my hot take: I think if you are the kind of person to actually spend big bucks on Hydraulic Pedals, then you are probably the kind of person that usually wears racing boots when simracing. I used to get holes in my socks with just Logitech pedals... I'm very much just a hobbyist simmer and I use the MOZA CRP set now and I personally found just socks un-drivable. Instead, I got a pair of Sparco Karting boots and they do the trick, what ever the weather. I understand Champion Joe's issues, I just don't think they align with someone paying cash money for them.
Asetek can get a bit of criticism but they have catered for people who complained about the stiffness. Long travel kit, face plates, elastomers and splitting the pedals
Whenever I race, I use the shoes, but definitely not on a casual drive / learning the track / dusting off... these pedals are hardcore. Appeals a lot to the ones who love to race, and looks to me the most realistic pedals you can get out of a real race car... but eh, with my Moza SR-P with the stiffest springs, I am happy, but I definitely want to try the load-cell throttles.
Not hydraulic but I’ve juste received my Venym pedals and they are just amazing out of the box ! You should give a look once :) These Asetek looks great but its stiffness made me decide to go with Venym.
I agree on the part that the pedals are not friendly towards sock drivers. But I managed to customize them to be perfectly driveable with socks. 1. Softest elastomer 2. Long travel kit 3. HRS pedal face pads, because of their size, these are much more comfortable than the Forte pedal pads. Then I calibrated them to be at 67bar pressure at 100% of my brake force. Could go more, but this feels right to me. This way at around 60-70% brake force the THORP system enters the second stage. So I can use this for non-ABS cars to better feel when lockup might be imminent. Works like a charm. But with quite some extra money. Mind you, I've got the Invicta S pedals, the seperate version. But aside from this the pedals are technically the same as the "standard" Invictas. Love 'em. But if you want more than 15mm pedal travel, probably go for the other brands, VRS for example.
I need help setting these up, ugh I am not smart w these things. I have them and they are kind of holding me 9ack. which color is the softest one? i also just ordered the love travel kit. did it come w instructions?
Love Asetek products period! They nailed it..got to test the La Prima and Invicta both absolutely brilliant and think that's how a direct drive should feel now..I game on PC/console because of my son he races but console only so I buy products that are PC/console comp. it's a shame that Asetek has ignored the console players as well as Thrustmaster, I have A LOT of Thrustmaster gear that I have over the years Ferrari SF1000 T-LCM pedals etc... That just went to the way side when I went Fanatec F1 podium well now thrust came out with a DD but of course no console support, why does console get looked over so much?
I'm very new to sim racing, i got the la prima bundle as my first set. The brake is essentially the forte brake and face plate. I can use it with socks, slippers and even barefoot and it feels fine to me, no discomfort. Using the standard elastomer sent with it fitted. Only caveat would be I've been wearing barefoot shoes for a while and do martial arts which involves a fair amount of kicking.
I went for the long travel kit and changed to the Forte face plate only at the throttle pedal. I wanted to change the pedal face because I like some slip at the throttle not because of pain on my feet. Driving with shoes is fine for me because it is a sim ;)
The one problem I have with my Forte's is that they're sooo angled forwards, and I have them all the way backwards with the pedalplate all the way tilted back too. Makes it uncomfy sometimes
"the brake can withstand 396 pounds, which for normal people is 880 kilograms" This is a very simple mistake that should have been caught: you did the conversion backwards. 396kg would be 880lbs. The 396lb weight limit actually equates to 180kg.
From my own experience, I can confirm that you have to get used to the stiffness (depending on what pedalset you came from) but in the end, it helped me at least to be able to be way finer with the brake input than before. But I also have to admit that I always race with shoes, so the plate etc. aren´t really an issue for me - Rene
I have these and they are the best pedals I have ever used, after fine tuning them to get the perfect position and then get muscle memory built up I ended up wining 3 races on iRacing in one week, all tracks that require good trail braking in the Gen 4 and Arca car. so to me these are 100% worth purchasing. I alos love how they feel exactly like brakes feel in a real car when you have manual brakes (No Vacuum boost)
It is down to preference probably. Jonas had some valid points here but I currently use the Invicta (as Jonas didn´t liked them) and I agree with you, they are absolutely amazing and gave me a good feel straight from the get go. But I am also always racing with the same shoes that I use for rL races, so I don´t have the issue with the footrest - Rene
@@LIRGECACORSEGT two were 1900 and 1 was 1790, but that's mostly irrelevant as I tend to run when there is only 1 split so some guys have IR of 3K some 1500. The fact I had not won in some time and then go and win 3 on tracks I have had issues with tire wear and ability to consistently trail brake on races of 80 laps is why I even mentioned it.
Why so clickbaity tho? Why so much effort to make people watch, it takes away from the entertaining factor for sure. Love the review, but please stop it with the "but there is ONE BIG ISSUE..." You sound like a google news feed, and thats not a good thing.
The channel overall is very weird. First, they didn’t really get going, then they wanted Ermin Hamidovic to take the lead, that didn’t last long, now there is this dude who respectfully I have no idea why I should rate his opinion, has anyone ever seen him race? He’s just a random guy with no special knowledge in anything
Why would you drive without shoes?!! Real races drive with racing shoes so simply do that . I always drive with sport shoes.. I can feel my hydraulic pedals much better with shoes.
What do you mean selected car types? I run the GT3, all Nascar , Pro 4 , Dirt Street stocks, Arca and Gen4 so to me I am fine with all cars, Also you can set different pedal maps to be used on different vehicles , so far I have 4 different map setups
Why people simrace in socks always shock me, you spend hundreds of bucks to get close to a real experience yet use the gear in a way you will never do in real life.
LMAO regardless of the fact you got the force calc incorrect at 800+ KG the pedals do have too many downsides in regards to set up options and ergonomic comfort, I mean how the hell are you supposed to fit that base plate into a rig or set the pedals for heel and toe, So basically they are a set of Aluminum Logitech G29 pedals with upgraded inner workings.
