I think Crosshair helping Ventress into the ship after the beast encounter was because, much like with himself, Omega asked others to trust a 'bad' person. He's been a benefactor of her faith, so when Omega says "trust her" it means something a little deeper to him than it would to Hunter or Wrecker.
“We were pawns in the same war and we all lost.” Sums up the Clone Wars. Palpatine is a more successful Littlefinger. Palpatine started a war, got more emergency powers over time and controlled both sides. No matter what happened, he was going to win. Only the Sith won the Clone Wars.
Ventress being a teacher to Omega, and not a bad one at that... man, remembering what she used to be like when we first watchrd the movie all those years ago? I feel old lol
As Hemlock mentioned earlier on in this season, a Force User's Midichlorian count cannot be cloned with the same level without a relatively high level doner's DNA to replicate/fill in the missing pieces. With Ventress, at the end of the novel Dark Disciple Obi-wan Kenobi and Quinlan Voss take her to Dathomir and put her in a dark pool outside a village the water of which begins to glow green (Nightsister Magick). In short, she was restored to life, like but also unlike the way shown in the Clone Wars episode, "Massacre".
I avoided the trailer this season after regretting watching last season's one seeing Gungi. However too many people have been spouting about Ventress that I heard she was going to be in this second hand.
There were some episodes of ‘The Clone Wars’ where Anakin and Kit Fisto used their lightsabers under water when they were helping to fight with the Prince on the planet Mon Cala. You are right, though. The water would instantly boil around the blade when ignited in the water.
Not necessarily. The outside of the blade may be perfectly temperate, with the inside being the part that boils as it cuts. Else we'd see significant heat given off lightsabres when activated.
You forget the whole arc in Clone Wars that was set underwater. I can only assure you that you actually have seen underwater lightsaber action in the past. :)
I believe that line about having more lives is a nod to the little bit of controversy regarding her return. According to the supposedly canon book “Dark Disciple,” she died prior to the events of the bad batch. Many expected some sort of explanation of how or why she didn’t die in this episode and that’s what we got. I don’t know that if there’s going to be an explanation sometime in the future or if it’s just a retcon and that’s the way it is? LOL
I never expect explanations to anything. That's just Star Wars. We may get them or not. I certainly didn't expect one right away. It'll probably be explained in a Tales series or future show.
@@dirtyhawkstv1575 that’s my guess. Dave Filoni usually has those sorts of things planned out. I personally liked that line she gave. It was sort a stuck out tongue to everyone demanding answers…lol! I will be curious to see what comes next as I’ve really been enjoying this season of Bad Batch! I want more…haha!
I agree with you about Tech. We all love him, but his death came out of the blue and it was so well done that we really felt it. To bring him back would feel cheap as you say. I don't know how this theory has come around anyway, and there is no evidence at all it is a recognisible clone, so its just wishful thinking from some. On this episode, I love where Ventress is at now in terms of her mindset. She is over all that happened to her, and who she was, and is finding some balance too. Great stuff. We also get her being Yoda to Omega's Luke in Empire Strikes Back; its almost the same scenes to the film, just some of the wording is different. She lies at the end I feel to protect Omega and her crew, as she knows about abandonment and being on her own, and she sees how much Omega means to CF99, and how her leaving them, would cause a lot of pain now.
See, story arcs like this one are both brave and fresh. Omega does NOT, btw, have a high M-count. She is M-count compatible. Her Force ability, however, is a mystery still. Her uncanny ability to communicate with Batcher is just one of her many unexplained talents. I love this version of Ventress, too.
Oh agreed, and Nika Futterman, her VA has said this is only the beginning and they have a plan for her, which I'm excited about as Ventress should never have "died" in that rubbish book anyway.
While other people have told you about how it’s true lightsabers work underwater, they aren’t mentioning that you have to prepare your lightsaber for underwater. That is why in phantom menace near the beginning obiwan couldn’t use his lightsaber at first when they landed on Naboo because he didn’t prep it and was in water for a bit and that is why he ran to qui gon being chased by the droid on the speeder
Hey there, I just don't feel anybody else pointed out. Omega does not have a high m count. She's a clean clone like bofet was unaltered, so they could use her dna to clone the emperor with his account without any degradation.
It would take some doing even for a strong trained force user to do that. Even if Omega is strong in the force, its doubtful she'd be able to do something like that off the cuff.
I'm really sorry if I've missed an announcement or statement and you've already addressed this, but can I ask if you're planning to finish the Bad Batch? I'm really enjoying your reactions to the show, but it seems to have just stopped. Big fan of the channel in either case, and I hope everything's okay.
@@funnylilgalreacts Oof. Very sorry to hear that, but I completely understand, and I've been there (in very different context, of course). I'm on board for whatever you need to do to keep the joy and enthusiasm in this.
Ventress coming back was so cool! Also it’s interesting that if Omega could learn the force or not? I really liked this episode I’m intrigued on where they take this story 🤔
I would assume both Fennic and Ventress being bounty hunters run in the same circles. Thats how people meet. You never know how people attain knowledge. You know what you know.
A lot of years ago, I was at a Star Trek convention where Michael Okuda was a guest. As always happens with sci-fi fandom, there was someone at his talk who had a question about how something seen in a particular episode "actually worked". Okuda replied that it worked "because it was in the script". I've never forgotten that, and as a very amateur writer, I'm always mindful that characters and situations in fiction will behave as they do for one reason only: they are written that way. And this can (and always does) eventually result in "weirdnesses", like a laser sword capable of cutting through armor plate *not* causing water to instantly sublimate. Which, by the way, the resulting steam explosion would have been... "energetic".
You have seen multiple lightsabers under water in the Mon Calamari arc in Clone Wars… the one with back then Captain Ackbar and the Prince and the civil war between their people and the Quarren! Anakin, Ahsoka and I believe Kit Fisto all use their lightsabers there under the ocean
I can only assume that the night sisters are given or born with a number of lives or can only be brought back to life a certain number of times. Ventress hasn't used all of hers yet. Just a notion on my part.
People love jumping on reactors who think Omega is force sensitive however she absolutely could be and they are hinting at it, have been since season 1. Yes they want her blood for the bonding and not for its inherent M count, but you know that doesn’t prove she doesn’t have a sensitivity.
@@funnylilgalreacts Yeah at this moment its still up in the air. And I like that we didn't get a definitive answer here, as it leaves things open for future. If we were told she is force sensitive, then that probably means she'll have to leave the Bad Batch with either them getting killed or something else, to go off with Ventress. On the other hand, it could be just about the binding properties of her blood thats important which leaves it open for her to continue with the remainder of the Bad Batch.
@@funnylilgalreactsand we really shouldn’t be 😔 I’ve been a Star Wars fan since as long as i could begin remembering things and to me being a fan of it was always about fun and journey and discussion and lessons and so much more. Yea I was a kid and yea there was no internet and I definitely got bullied for loving it but I never imagined at the time that the fans would be the ones to turn on other fans as much as ended up happening.
@@funnylilgalreactsI’m a deep diver into Star Wars lore and just love learning it and witnessing it and I’m always happy to answer questions and all, but there’s no way I’d never expect anyone else to be as well lol. That just seems ridiculous to me.
I get that you don’t have enough time to react to the rest of the season, but why start on new reactions such as Fallout, Gen V, One Piece, Farscape, Doctor Who, and Fullmetal Alchemist, before finishing the rest of The Bad Batch? Especially when you only have 6 episodes left. It doesn’t seem fair for The Bad Batch fans.
I don't know what's going to happen with the operative. I don't know if it's Tech. Would I be upset? Well... it depends on how they did it. If they were controlling him, and he could be redeemed, I don't think you'd be angry. Well... maybe with the Empire, instead of the heavy hand of the writers. It all depends on how they do it. It was cool seeing Ventris again, and she wasn't evil. Well... not like she was before. I don't know how the rest of the season is going to go, but I am looking forward to the journey with you. Thank you, as always, for the watch, and I'll look forward to whatever comes next!
We actually don't know if Omega is force sensitive or not. Ventress saw the connection Omega has with the batch and to me decided to say no, she doesn't have a high M-count. Crosshair knew she was lying but doesn't know why.
Hi may I know what your upload schedule is like ? I don’t watch every show you are currently watching so I would like to know what days to tune in CHEERS !
How to piss off book fans: Well, you don't know, but Ventress died in the canonical book "Dark Disciple." It was a beautiful story, and now it's lost its meaning because Ventress faced no consequences; she simply got up. The option of resurrection would make sense (She was buried in the Waters of Life on Dathomir), but that make entire story meaningless. Ventress sacrifices herself for her loved one to return to the light, and she herself rejects the darkness and dies at the hands of Dooku. Now her sacrifice is noble but shallow. (I recommend familiarizing yourself with that story because it's one of the best books.) And this is only because Filoni couldn't show it in the Clone Wars due to Disney, so now he wants to lead Ventress's story in a different way and he doesn't care about books. When that episode came out, I was discussing with many people in the comments what would be the best solution. My conclusion at the time: replace Ventress's character with Barriss. In this case, the symbolism and interactions would be identical.
youtube.com/@hehu4025 As someone who was reading the books when Zahn kicked off the Expanded Universe back in the day, I can only say welcome to the hierarchy of Star Wars content...
I’ll never understand why people call the self-sacrificial play “meaningless” if the person doesn’t actually perish. _Choosing_ to willingly sacrifice yourself for the greater good (or even just to save another) is the heroic thing. Not the dying part. And people who choose to risk their lives, even to the point of little chance of survival, every day in real life should not have their choices be deemed meaningless. Is the person who runs into a burning building to save a child _less_ heroic because they survived the ordeal? What’s the math on that?
@@AngeloBarovierSD This is about the symbolism and significance of the book and its consequences. Ventress sacrificed her own life for Vos to return to the light. Vos did so and didn't kill Dooku only because he loved Ventress. The death itself is a huge emphasis and symbolism of this tragic situation, almost telling the reader: "This is the end, there's no other option because the character has made the final decision" (that's why I said her sacrifice is noble but shallow). Comparing fictional characters to the real world is quite odd, but I understand what you're trying to say. As a counterargument, we can discuss Episode 9 because the situation with Ventress, in my opinion, is very similar, especially in terms of meaning and symbolism. And I don't care how both characters did it; I care that they died, and now it loses its meaning. I have nothing against resurrecting characters, but it has to be situations like Maul's - death was insignificant, and resurrection is entirely justified.
This is probably not the best way to suggest something to you, but have you watched Shogun? It's a beautiful show, has samurai's a good plot and great acting. Hope you would consider it for a reaction.
@@funnylilgalreacts ah that's a bummer we won't get to see your reactions or hear your thoughts on the show, but hopefully you enjoy the show Regardless.
@@funnylilgalreacts it was unbearable to watch, so i went and watched your Doctor Who reaction, which was awesome. Now, after your reply to my comment i went back to this video, and it looks good now, "normal" instead of every 12 seconds.
Smoke IS Omega-3 her body, anyway. Yes, Omega dies at the end of The Bad Batch and Papaltine animated her corpse by using the dark side of the Force. That's my darkest prediction.