after research, i found a real great web for getting top dobes...once you research its web, you too will say these are great dobes...i should of bought one instead family wanted a lab which is also good too...
Back in the late 70's while in the Navy I started looking into Dobermans and the first kennel I found was Kimbertal in PA, they had some impressive large Dobe's. We finally got our first in 1990, through a breeder in NC, Scudamore Kennels. Rachael was a beautiful black and rust and super smart and protective of my wife when I was away travelling. She had a litter of 11 pups in 1993 and we kept the only red male, Thor who was so much different than Rachael. He was 28" and usually weighed around 92 lbs and he lived to a good age of 13 1/2 years. My avatar is a picture of Thor when he was around 5 or 6 years old. We do miss our Dobe's, the are the best breed ever!!!
Thanks so much for sharing part of your story with us, Stephen. Thor was such a handsome boy! It sounds like he lived a long, happy life with you and your wife. Rachael must have been so dearly missed when she passed away. We know they both were!
Wow holy crap, my first Dobie I got was from Kimbertal PA!! Wonder if it was the same breeder you found. Best dog I’ve ever had and possibly will have.
i owned a heavy warlock female about 1976. she was about the size of a 8-9 month old female doberman. she was extremely smart &gentle. i have had several dobermans since she passed away. none have been even close to her intelligence. still looking .
Thank you! A lot of time and research was spent to make sure all the facts were straight (as with all our videos, though : ). We are glad you liked it!
Our male that just passed away was 30in at the withers and weighed 125 lbs. He was full blooded doberman. I never really saw him as being huge. But he left a huge hole in my heart. I am having a hard time finding a breeder and I miss my baby boy so much😞
Doberman's in my opinion are in a class all their own. What great companions and so smart. I had two and both died much to young of cardiomyopathy. One sudden death the other more prolonged but had some quality time after putting him on heart meds. My last dog Zeus was the epitome of a Dobie. I couldn't possibly replace him and didn't even try. I miss him everyday.
My first Dobe was of the Warlock line. She was the finest Dobe I ever had of the 5 I've owned. I've also had one from the Red General line. That dog was bat-shit crazy.
i know what you mean about your warlock female. mine was much smaller than any mature dobermans i have ever seen. she was smarter than any doberman i have owned since. she was smarter & better behaved than any dog i have ever seen. she went out of her way to kill snakes. i miss her.
OMG I live in Greenville SC!!! To think that it happened here amazes me. Have never heard about that before. I am glad you addressed the "warlock" issue. Same thing applies to "teacup" poodles. I imagine the "warlocks" have the multitude of health problems that any breed has from being bred down to a tiny size. I know people that have gone out of their way and paid more for the smaller sized pet. Then the vet bill normally start rolling in at some point. You CAN NOT explain this to someone who has already decided this is going to be what they do. I feel like people need to beware of ANYONE that ships their puppies also. If you love the breed then you want your puppies to take precedent over money from selling them. Lost a long time client when I tried to explain this to her when she had already decided that was what she was going to do. Every single client I have had that bought a dog on-line and had it shipped ended up with a dog with life long health problems. That particular client had done the same thing with 2 Shar Peis. I loved the client and didn't want her to go through same expenses and heartbreak. Instead I made her mad and she dumped me. Plus, she asked me what I thought. I only replied to her questions otherwise I probably would have kept my thoughts to myself since it wasn't my business. Buyer BEWARE and do some homework about such big decisions.
Definitely agree, Starla! Just make sure research is done and that you're as well-informed as you can be about what dog you're going to bring home to your family. It makes a big difference in the long-run!
This was really interesting topic🙏🏻 Our European Dobbie Sirius weighted a whopping 65kg and was very athletic. Vets here in Finland were confused about his size as he wasn't a mixed breed individual
That’s about 135 lbs ? I’ve seen two a guy had we’re about 160 lbs. but as.are kind host mentioned Doberdanes. And for the first few generations you can see that there muzzle is boxed shape more and their eyes are smaller but after about ten or I’m sure less they start to look like a big Doberman. I’m not a breaded or a vet. I’m just passing on info I have learned from my breader and my vet I’m sure that that was very impressive though. My last one was 100 lbs when he passed and he was very agile as well
I had a Doberman female that weighed around 115 lbs. She lived almost 14 years. There were many so called warlocks in her line. Her brothers weighed closer to 130 to 140 lbs. She did develop hip dysplacia. The first time I took her to her last vet, he had a male Doberman there that was average weight. She dwarfed him. The vet was just so impressed with her .
@@victorterrierrr no she was not. She was huge. Our veterinarian even was shocked at her size. Her brothers were even larger than her. Her father was huge. Her mother was over 95lbs. Many people commented that she was a horse. She was beautiful though.
Great video! I can't believe people would still be using warlock to market their dogs. I was working for a veterinarian in the mid 80s who showed and bred dobermans. He was known for being fantastic at ear cropping. Back then, everyone cropped their doberman's ears. So show breeders of dobies came from several hours away to have him crop their puppies' ears. Back then I learned from show breeders that while the original warlock was just a bloodline, by the 70s and 80s they were mixing great danes in the genepool and so Warlock meant overized doberman just as you said. Though no breeder would admit their dogs were mixed. They just claimed to have oversized dobies. Now with dog DNA tests available to the public, it's easy to see when a dog has some kind of mix in their bloodline. Had DNA been available back then, owners of warlock dobies would have seen great danes in their mix, likely a great grandparent. There is always so much controversy around different lines or types of dog of any breed. And there will always be people who claim a bloodline when their dog may have none. A breeder can say their puppies are of X bloodline, when you'd have to go back generations to actually see it, if it's even there. Kind of like a person saying they are related to George Washington, lol. A doberman is a working dog, so when you are getting over 100lbs you are going to get a dog that is more cumbersome plus prone to the health problems and shorter lifespans of giant breeds. I don't know why anyone would want that.
Very interesting video. I had never heard of the Warlock before your channel. I do hear people brag about how big their Doberman is and I just listen. My boy is only 85 lbs as an American Dobe. In my head, I am thinking....120 lbs is NOT Doberman standard. Plus, as strong as my boy is....whew! I would not want him any bigger.
I'm glad that you are educating people about the fact that Dobermans these dangerous animals that people should fear. They are beautiful gentle animals that need to be raised properly just like any dog and they will act accordingly. Myself and other Doberman owners have no behavioral issues that would be a concern. Place's that ban the breed outright are just misinformed. They are just like any other breed. If they are raised well they are a great addition to one's family
Yes, you're right, Hannah! The breed standard is there so they can be the best kind of dog they can be health-wise and do the work they were intended to do without injury, within their given weight and height range.
My Rotterman is recovering from emergency neurosurgery on her cervical vertebrae. She collapsed and we brought her to UC Davis for the best possible chance for recovery. She is still down a month after her surgery but she’s getting stronger every day, making attempts to stand on her own and taking a few steps unassisted.
@@DobermanPlanet No he had papers and pedigree. He looked like he stepped out of a Dobermann book. He had good dogs in his background. Beautiful wedge shaped head 85 pounds 28in at the shoulders.
My boy is Kimbertal bloodline power boy grandson/ sant Kreal .Around 125lbs 4 years old. You are correct there is no such definition as (warlock) the genetics and bloodline make the size of the dog
Love this channel man! Love dogs, mini pins, Doberman & German Pinschers wish someone made a min pin channel like this. But still what an amazing channel this is, greetings from Costa Rica 🇨🇷
I had a Doberman who was a descendant of Warlock through her father. She was red from her mother, she was the 11th of 11 born and several stayed in our neighborhood. I was surprised you didn’t mention the cowlicks that appear a lot in his bloodline. All the dogs that stayed around were wonderful and needless to say our neighborhood was very safe lol
My mother had a "warlock" Doberman(AKC) back in the early 80s named Midnight Black Satin. These Dobermans have also been known to have a lot of European in their genetics. Several years ago, she bought her 2nd Dobie(AKC) and he topped out at 126lbs. I have never seen a more beautiful dog in my life. I am currently heading to hopefully put a deposit down on a red Dobie puppy. I'm super stoked!!! These puppies have an "X" in their lineage as well which means European 🇪🇺. Thank you for taking the time to make extremely informative and helpful videos! 😊🐾🐕
We took our dogs for a walk yesterday and saw the cutest Doberman puppy in the neighborhood. It was a big puppy... we could tell he was going to be a big boi!
I have a boxerman pincher she is 4 months old and all ready 30 pounds. Her mom was a huge brown Doberman and her dad was a huge boxer. I forget the type of boxer type but its the biggest boxer. They are rowdy dogs. High energy.
Some of the reasons Dobermans are so good as protection dogs is that they are fast, agile, and have a fairly long life. Breeding larger Dobermans reduces these qualities.
from what i have found the original "warlock" doberman was a doberman bred with a black great dane to give the dobermans a larger size. from there the first breeders began breeding the larger dobermans in the litters to create a specific line of doberman dane crosses and called them "warlock" dobermans. not that there is anything wrong with that other than they are not truly full dobermans. both dogs are great family dogs, great guard dogs( my doberman guards her couch and kennel at all cost, especially her couch) and are intelligent. still these dogs can be high drive and defense and are really not meant for first time dog owners. research any dog breed or mix of dog breed before you adopt or purchase a pup. it can save you a world of headaches and heartbreaks.
This is very interesting! This is the first I've seen this video and the first I've ever heard of a "Warlock" Doberman. However, when I was a Navy SEAL in the late 1970s, I adopted an 11 day old Dobie from a guy who fed his pregnant bitch raw pork causing her to contract worms, thus, giving them to her puppies, and the only way I could figure saving at least one of them was to take him ASAP!!! So I did. Unfortunately, he became very sick within the first couple days, so I took him to the vet and he said his outlook was very grim and that the next 48 hours would tell the story. On the way home from the vet's, as I drove, my then girlfriend was holding him and as I drove I kept watching him and he looked weaker and weaker with every passing moment until soon his head drooped and he went completely limp. I was sure he was dead. I, a Navy SEAL, started crying and pulled the car over and took him in my arms and stroked him until I found the life in him return. My girlfriend drove the rest of the way home with me constantly stroking and kissing him and we got him home still barely living. I called into my team and took a weeks leave immediately to care for him. I stayed up all that night laying with him in bed with us and watched him sleep. I guess I eventually dropped of and when I awoke, the little guy was licking my face, cuddled under my chin. He just kept getting stronger from then on. That day I gave him a name "Warlock," for I felt it magic that he had recovered so quickly. He grew to be about 76 pounds (small for a male Dobie) and, unfortunately had hip dysplasia due to the worms infestation, but other than that, he never had a major medical issue and lived to be 11 years old and had to be put to sleep because he could not stand, for his back legs gave out. He was the greatest of the five Dobies I've raised in my lifetime, gentle, athletic for more than half of his life, running and swimming with me regularly. I now live in South Korea as an English professor and current have a 6 month old Dobie I rescued from a idiot Korean who kept the sire and bitch in the back of battery and tire shop (the grounds filthy and littered with waste from the shop). I named my boy "Guinness" because I always wanted to since moving to Korea and discovering I love the stout, Guinness, and since Dobermans have the coloring of a freshly poured Guinness, what the hell!!!
Dobermans are the best I have had 6 in my time I just lost my 7 year old due to a massive heart attack Before you get a Doberman please check with the breeder on heart history
Thank you for explaining the TRUE meaning of the "Warlock" Dobie. I have heard of them for many years, as being larger, more , powerful, etc. I never actually saw one and wouldn't know if I did. So now I know ~~thank you, once again.
Never heard the Originally story of Warlock! Sounds exactly like theb"Roman" Rottweiler, which is the same marketing term for XL Rotts! Basis comes from original Roman mastiffs that were taken to Rottweil Germany to eventually become the modern German Rott! I am a AKC German Rottweiler breeder expanding my kennel to Dobermans with a 6month old red male A/E hybrid. So excited to have Rottermans in future for specific costomers!
That's so interesting, D.J.! Definitely hadn't heard about that before with the Rottweilers. Thanks for sharing that story! Best of luck to you as you start breeding Dobermans!
We always look forward to seeing Arlo in ur videos. We never get tired of seeing him playfully being ur BUDDY or focused at completing a task. Kudos to u for being a responsible Dobie owner.
in the army in 1966, we took our red doberman named "Watchdog" to the West Point Veterinarian and they all came out to see our Warlock bred who they thought was a deer.
We adopted a boy that was surrendered with papers (cousin did his intake). He was a huge black and rust 130lbs boy but we feel his size (poor breeding) cut his life short. We just adopted a standard size red girl that was clearly abused and maybe was only around to breed. She's anxious but getting better every day and such a sweetheart.
I have 100% "Warlock" Dobermann amazingly enough I rescued him from dobie rescue. I used embark like you suggested and he came back 100% European Dobermann!! He is a gentle giant he's beautiful 😍 ❤ love your channel thank you for helping me find my perfect family member.
I have a 100 lbs doberman 62,5% riesenschnauzer 25% german drahthaar 12,5% a very clever active and loving dog. He behaves as a doberman but looks most like a oversized german drahthaar.
My 110 lb Doberman was 30" at the shoulder, and just an amazing strong fast agile animal. Probably a good limit in size, any bigger and you get a much higher chance of hip and joint problems, and a lot of heartbreak...
Ahhhh! This reminded me that the registered name of my first Dobie was Warlock Vom Artel or something. He was born January 1980. I’d never thought of his “real” name prior to watching this video. He was black and red/rust. Very striking fella with a deep chest but quite large for a Doberman and tall weighing in his prime between 100 and 110 lbs - and that may have been partly because we may have been a little over generous with treats. One breeder ascertained it was because we fed liver a fair bit. Who knows? He was the recipient of treats often too. And, heck, we have no kids so the dogs and cat joined us at the table. I once counted he helped himself to no fewer than 13 apples one evening. Didn’t harm him any though. Probably shouldn’t have let him have that many. Or ditto on the roast he was carrying when he met me at the front door as I returned from work.
@@DobermanPlanet : sadly he passed away at only 7 of cancer. My female was as 2 days shy of her 15 birthday and my little blue male (90 lbs) died in my arms at 12. Not a day goes by that I don’t think of them even now. We planned to build on a larger property where I could keep my horses and buried Amie on that property. We just never got around to building there and had an offer for the land which we sold. My husband brought her coffin back here and she’s under the apple tree with the rest of the gang. I think we are now likely too old to adopt a pup as we have no one to step in to care for him/her should something happen to us in these chaotic times. More on Amie: she was amazingly smart to the point her vets wanted he sent to a veterinary facility in Guelph, ON to have her brain waves tested. She was able to reason solutions to problems. Not just being a proud parent here. Loved them all but the boys weren’t destined to be world leaders. Amie even had the cat trained so by the time she became unable to get to the upper cupboards (to reach the butter stored there), the cat was able to get it for her.
I understand why some people would like to buy a big Doberman. I would like to promote to stick with the American standard or the German standard because there is a reason why it became a Dobermann/Doberman. Looking at the Dobermann’s from Eastern Europe (show dogs) they are according to me too big chested and some have too big of heads. I wish they would look more athletic and fit so they have the ability to work as hard as they were meant to do. I have recently seen some beautiful once in the UK and Denmark. I can also say that Nordenstamm back in the days had Dobermann’s that looked powerful and fit. I sure don’t want them to start to look like a different breed. I had a German Dobermann in the 90’s and he was square, fit and powerful. He first started in schutzhund and later became a professional mildew scent detective. He had to work hard without getting tired. I don’t think he would be as good if he was too big. I would love to hear from any of you with a big working Dobermann. How many km can they run? Thanks... Have a good day with your dog.
Agree - some of the euros are becoming far too heavy to do what the breed ws originally designed for. They are meant to be a medium sized, athletic agile breed
I enjoy watching videos and Warlock sired over 50,000 pups Wilt Chamberlain can’t keep up with that. Lol I got the FI Series 3 and I love it my pup is 8 1/2 months old and in the past 18 days I’ve had him measured against all FI dogs Dobermans and dogs from PA and he breaks records every day as of two days ago he had rose to the top 9% of all the FI dogs. He’s a very beautiful red male and I’ve been raising Dobermans for about 30 years and my first was a black & rust but only red males since.
New to your channel, stumbled across it one evening, glad I did. I recently put my female blue coat Doberman down due to cancer in her back hip. Now I have only my handsome boy, eight year old red and tan Doberman. Would love to see you do something about wobbler’s syndrome. My handsome boy, red Baron, was diagnosed couple years ago, controlled with medication. He’s doing well. I pour over anything I can get my hands on related to Wobblers syndrome.
hey john!!! how are you doing ? hope you are doing good I had a few question in my mind that is 1] how can we identify that our dog is motivated by treats or attention or anything else? 2] also how can we identify our dog's favourite toy ? i hope you reply :]
I noticed with my doberman that out of all the toys, she prefers a ball on a rope, or any ball for that matter. You can figure it out by testing a variety of toys from soft toys to hard kongs. Does your dog like to chew or chase? You learn just by playing with your dog and testing different toys. And with food motivation, is your dog willing to work for food or is your dog more picky and can less about food? I recommend not free feeding your dog and have your dog on scheduled feeding routine. It'll help with food motivation. And you can figure out what your dog is willing to work for by testing different foods. Anything from kibble to string cheese or chunks of chicken. You just need to test everything to figure out what works for your dog. Hope that helps.
Hi, Pratyush! Great question! For the toys, lay them all out in a row. Whichever one he or she continually goes to is the favorite! :) As for treats vs. toys, when your dog does a command correctly, you can hold one in each hand as a reward and see which one he or she chooses first! We'd recommend always giving lots of love and attention either way! Some dogs respond more to praise than treats or toys, but most just like it all!
My baby sarge was a collie Dobie. Dobie black and tan with a touch of white on his chest. He loved everyone, feared my big black Tom cat, enjoyed chasing down coyotes and was so very smart. I would love to have another one like him.
Plenty of full blooded Dobermans weigh 120 or 125 pounds and stand 29 or 30 inches at the withers. I had a pure bred Dobe who was that large and even fit as hell he stood 30 inches and weighed 120-125.. He was just a large dog and he could trace back to Euro parents. He was also incredibly strong. My other Dobes have all been large but all between 90 and 100 pounds. I loved them all and love the one I still have, and I have also owned other working breeds.
My dad got my Doberman but he got it from a non repeatable (I hope I spelled that right) breeder and he said that he had a warlock Doberman even know I told him there is no such thing he still got it I’m not complaining because I love my puppy but to be honest he does look a tad bigger than other puppies I even introduced him to my friends Doberman puppy (they were the same age and gender ) and my Puppy was bigger
Could you do a video about Doberman Mohawks? I resent just saw my puppy put up his Mohawk while watching a scary movie. I also love your videos you do a great job!
my last Doberman was a warlock I think, he was huge and so sweet and cuddly. He used to sit on my lab (crushing me slightly as he was 9 stone and his head was as long as my arm from wrist to elbow and his muzzle was about as thick too)
So I watched many of your videos. Love them thank you! So I have been using an E-collar I only use the beep she comes right back to me buuut not to me she runs right past me but breaks contact. What can I do to have her stop at me? She cares nothing about treats. Also loves to chase a ball but will not drop it back off.
I had a badass red doberman, most expensive dog i ever had , $750 for the dog akc pedigree, $600 for the ears, then he got sick, would of died, and it cost me $3800 for surgery , 6 months to yr later same thing happend again and it cost $3500 , surgery worked , I loved that dog so much , i broke my hip, lost my buisness, my house, but i gave me to my neighbor that had a female dobie
I had an albino that was 26" and 93 lbs. A breeder (not the seller) told me he was a Warlock because my dog had a cowlick on the back of his neck. Personally I didn't care about his breeding, he was going to be a pet.
Some breeders do say the Warlock is "just in a look"! But yes, Arlo is a family pet as well, and I know yours was dearly loved, too! Cowlick or no cowlick!
My Doberman boy in his prime was 120lbs, very muscular and tall (never measured his height exactly). He had a good AKC pedigree/bloodline, never any hip issues related to size and very fast. I wouldn’t consider 120lbs to be oversized by any means, 140-150lbs however I could see being very cumbersome for a Doberman.
I have an American Doberman. When he was born he was over a pound. Much bigger then his brothers and sisters. 11 lb at 6 weeks ! At about 10 lb a month he is well over 90. But his brother from last years litter hit the same numbers. He was less the 100, at a year, 98. My boy is defiantly all legs with just enough padding. He runs around the farm like a greyhound.
I didn't know this story. We had a warlock in the 70s as a kid. I am born and raised from Miami. It was a female. She was amazing.My mom kept a book of her line.I am pretty sure he was was in it.
Man, based in what you said these measures of height and weight? You should have the FCI standard as your source. Female: weight: 32 - 35kg, height: 63 -68cm.
WOW. This is definitely a first for me. I've never heard of this breed before. I had a completely black Doberman Weimaraner cross some years back. Best dog I ever had. Unfortunately due to life events I had to put him down. His name was "Warlock".
Your videos are informative. Thanks for sharing! I’ve had German Shepherd for 32 years. I’d like to have a Doberman. They are smaller, so I was surprised to hear that some can be 100 lbs! I wanted smaller than that. Are they barkers? Shepherd’s drove me crazy, with the high pitched bark. My last dog was actually a Shepkita and he rarely barked. When he did, it was low and quite intimidating! He was perfect, but Akita’s are aggressive and I’m finished with that. Any info is appreciated!
Interesting bit of information my first dobe was pure breed w papers. A black a tan female that just barely fit into the male standard . Best family dog ever
