The Battle for Edson's Ridge with special guest Dave Holland-Episode 116

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This week Seth and Bill welcome back Guadalcanal historian Dave Holland to talk about the pivotal September 12-14 Battle of Edson's Ridge on Guadalcanal. The trio dive deep into the hellish nights on the ridge that the Raiders named in honor of their commanding officer, Merritt "Red Mike" Edson. The battle that raged for two consecutive nights is often viewed as the most pivotal, and crucial, battle on the land side of the campaign for Guadalcanal. Tune in to see if the trio believes that statement to be true.
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@mikelamberth9975 Год назад

Dave's knowledge of Guadalcanal is unsurpassed.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

It’s mind blowing.

@FlukeTog Год назад

I get a haunted feeling when he talks about Guadalcanal. Like literally the hair stands up on my arms and neck. He is the right Marine for this. Man all the pacific veterans in my family woulda loved him. I00%

@rtqii Год назад

Guadalcanal - Walking a Battlefield

@rickkephartactual7706 Год назад

@@rtqii Thank you, I was search for his channel.

@rtqii Год назад

@@rickkephartactual7706 It's pretty fascinating. They have recovered tons of artifacts. He walks along the front line positions and there are loaded clips laying about on the ground still.

@karinchaney101 11 месяцев назад

My Uncle "Gunny Bob" fought at Edson's Ridge and was awarded the silver star for his service. I miss him every day of my life. It breaks my heart that nobody under the age of 40 knows anything about this country and they have no gratitude for the sacrifice that what my Uncle's generation made.

@scottmcburney8938 6 месяцев назад

Not everybody, most of them for sure. My youngest is a fan of history, loves military history, currently a E-5, tip of the spear. I give thanks for your uncles service, and thanks for your reverence of him and his generation.

@perrylockhartiv8003 Месяц назад

@@karinchaney101 definitely not everybody, I'm 35 and consider myself a huge WWII buff. And I'm sure my 1 & 2 year olds will follow :)

@kevinrussell1144 4 месяца назад

Who wants movies and Hollywood BS when you can hear real stories of actual living people like this? Thanks to all three of you. You all (+JP) combine in a wonderful way to bring history alive.

@dave3156 Месяц назад

You guys do a great job of bringing the Pacific War to life. Dave is a walking encyclopedia on Guadalcanal--great to have him join you. Thanks Seth and Bill!

@dankilpatrick3910 2 месяца назад

Dave’s depth of knowledge is amazing. He’s definitely the premier SME

@krill3333 28 дней назад

Nothing but praise. Excellent detail, with feeling. And deepest respect for the people who put it on the line for their friends, unit mates, and country. 🇺🇸

@SaundersE5 Год назад

Edson was everything a fighting Marine leader should be. God rest his soul.

@jayjohnson9996 Год назад

This is one of the best channels that I found by accident because I’m hooked!!!

@rtqii Год назад

I am looking at Captain Toti on the Unauthorized History of the Pacific War Podcast on RU-vid. I found Dave Holland because he participates in, and supports, this podcast. Jon Parshall also participates and supports. As well as Drachinifel. These are all second to none sources.

@yes_head Год назад

Great comment from Dave at the end about how Guadalcanal and New Guinea were two sides of the same campaign, and how interesting it was that the Japanese understood this better than the allies.

@larrytischler570 Год назад

Well I for one understood it. And when our down under allies complain about not getting enough help in defending them in their fight in New Guinae, I point to all the Japanese landed in the Solomons to drive a wedge between supplies from Hawaii and them, and the cost the US paid. And remember the US Navy lost more men than the Marines did there just trying to keep that operation from getting shut down.

@kensvay4561 7 месяцев назад

Australians and New Zealanders contributed so much but McArthur denigrated us. The Americans did not want us or the British involved further north. The Americans did not want us to have any claim to the Marshalls or the Marianis because the US wanted all those islands to become US possessions after the war. We suffered terrible losses mopping up when we should have left the Japanese to starve. There were huge bad feelings about unnecessary loss of life. You neec to read more.

@ronaldmcmullen9934 Год назад

Great podcast… enjoyed them very much….. keep them coming

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

We hope to keep it up!

@rtqii Год назад

@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar I hope I catch up... This is some awesome material. I have seen many photos and even film footage I have never seen before

@mollybell5779 Год назад

I discovered this podcast a few months ago, and what an absolute gem. Thank you so much for your work and passion regarding the Pacific theater of WW2. I know it takes a lot to put it together, and I can't describe how very much I appreciate the education. 😁❤️

@lagoodman3349 Год назад

Thank you, love learning from people who have been there.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Thanks much

@BarberBobDetecting 4 месяца назад

Thanks for this excellent oral history of the Battle of Edson’s Ridge.

@SaundersE5 4 месяца назад

Awesome

@josephairoso8013 Год назад

Outstanding boys!

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Thanks Joseph

@garyhill2740 6 месяцев назад

I really can't get enough of these deep dives into history !

@bryanfields5563 Год назад

Always a great show when Mr Holland is on board sharing his local expertise!

@westsonrises Год назад

I'm so glad I found this channel! What a great reservoir of information on The PTO. Hope to see this more and more moving forward and maybe one day a podcast on Korea? =)

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Thanks for watching.

@ELOestimates 9 месяцев назад

Dave is a great guest

@jameshannagan4256 Год назад

Another great video.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Thanks again!

@jimwatts914 Год назад

Outstanding presentation on the early part of the Battle of Guadalcanal by Dave Holland a true expert. Great show and a great series commanded by a an impressive team.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@georgezagger487 27 дней назад

Most Excellent!!

@kensvay4561 7 месяцев назад

Dave is the best. He lived there while working for the Australian Federal Police.

@hazchemel Год назад

Fantastic, thank you. Still smiling at Dave's brilliant stories like, the Marine in the dark of night who joined in with a squad of advancing Japanese.

@joeavery6344 2 месяца назад

Thank you.

@robertmoffitt1336 Год назад

This is the best podcast ever! The last few days I've been binge watching, and Seth & Captain (Commodore) Toti are simply a super terrific team! I can't say enough good things about this podcast! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

@FlukeTog Год назад

Well done. I can almost recognize every book by the color and width. My 1st Guadalcanal Veteran’s sister must have bought every book from the first to publish and just kept going since the war. If I could only finish reading them all I’d get more answers maybe. Boy would I love an afternoon to go through some papers and documents with you guys one day. Once again Dave adjusted another timeline in my head. Thank you always. Sure wish I asked my grand more about ichiki’s last moments, and a thousand other questions now that it’s too late. I just didn’t know in time and they just didn’t talk about it unless it was to the list of names by the phone until the end. E.F.C talked to about 15 old Marines until the end. And the look he could stare at you if you asked about the list could cut through 3” steel. Brrrr. RIP

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

What was your grandfathers name?

@FlukeTog Год назад

@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar E.F.C G-2-1

@FlukeTog Год назад

@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Ed Claffey

@FlukeTog Год назад

@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar At the end - “ ichiki was too “yella” to commit hari Kari so we did it for him.” Take care

@victorydaydeepstate 2 месяца назад

You guys are beyond awesome.

@SaundersE5 2 месяца назад

Riveting history

@marv7601 8 месяцев назад

This Video Podcast is the most detailed analysis and logical explanation of the Naval War in the Pacific which I have discovered to Date. Excellent Analysis. A++. LMM LCDR USCG '72, Sr. Port Engineer, COMNAVSURFPAC, (Ret.) 1984-2006.

@tomhutchins7495 Год назад

I noticed the Kokoda Trail was mentioned a couple of times. Are you planning on doing an episode on it at some point?

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

At some point, yes. I would like to get into the New Guinea area fighting. It’s not my area of expertise but that’s what would make it fun for me. SP

@kpdubbs7117 Год назад

Well done. The U.S.S. Edson DD-946 is currently a museum ship docked about 3 miles from where I am typing this now. It's always cool to hear more about it's namesake.

@lajinmark2084 Год назад

Another solid show! Thought you guys gave a us a good understanding what it was like on Edsons Ridge, dark night tucked in a foxhole with swords, bayonets, rifles and the Japanese Rebel Yell rolling right over you. No wonder young Marines made a business decision to attack to the rear at the Height of the Action! Dave Hollands inciteful point about Kawaguichi turning down an additional Battalion that could have made a critical difference in spite of the tremendous artillery that rained down on the Ridge. Another critical decision/moment that happens to affect the outcome before the Battle even starts. As you guys made abundantly clear, The Battle was on a knifes edge that first night and a Banzai charge by that additional Battalion at the proper time had they had it could have put the airfield in Japanese hands. Kawaguichi ignoring intelligence to fight the battle he wanted instead of what was really there!

@stuartdollar9912 Год назад

The quality of the guests on this series never ceases to amaze me. I already knew of Jon Parshall courtesy of Shattered Sword, but I now find myself wanting to familiarize myself with Mr. Holland's work. Great job, gentlemen.

@Mag_Aoidh Год назад

Dave! Fitting, I just watched tonight a documentary on the USS Indianapolis and Bill was in it

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Michael, it was my honor to take part in those documentaries

@steel5791 9 месяцев назад

Once again, this episode leaves me breathless about how good you guys are at getting 'into the weeds and beneath the myths. I, without any service history, have learned so much about. The interplay and interdependence of trigger fingers, artillery and forge integration, along with 'dumb luck' and nail-biting reality. WOW! And THANKS!

@nicholasmattesi7799 Год назад

One soldier referred to as burak was my uncle he was edson's runner he was shot down and killed after accomplishing his mission on the way back and received the Navy Cross.

@johnnyg3166 Год назад

Yes. Dave is thee foremost expert

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

He is indeed

@mitchelnorton2692 Год назад

Watched several of your videos and you are my favorite. Lately I've dispaired of finding anything interesting on YT, then I found this and am very happy.

@stevemolina8801 Год назад

Thanks for sharing your knowledge Dave!

@jspringe7 Год назад

Capt. Toti, interesting you mentioned an uncle who was an army engineer on Guadalcanal. My father was also an army engineer on the island, although I’ve never been able to pin down his exact unit. Hence my interest in this subject. Thoroughly enjoy these programs. Thank you.

@jeffreymartin8448 Год назад

Absolutely mesmerizing.

@getoffenit7827 Год назад

Im happy you guys are getting down to the nuts and bolts,My ship visited Guadalcanal in 1992,I didnt get to see as much as i would have liked to But i did tour Edsons Ridge and i got dozens of pictures of Edsons Ridge and also from japanese positions and i had since forgotten what the guide told me about the areas i photographed but now watching this video i can follow along using them

@Fulcrum205 Год назад

I think American artillery was vastly underrated in WW2. Ive read accounts by combatants of every Axis nation. All of them mention how terrible it was to face US artillery during the war. Our FDC system gave any soldier with a radio and a map the ability to bring devastating firepower down at moments notice.

@henryburby6077 Год назад

This podcast is a gift to the internet. As this episode shows, the USMC didnt win this fight simply because they were "harder" man for man than the Japanese Army troops they faced. There was valor on both sides, but the US marines fought smarter, were better prepared, equipped, and organized. In fact, the japanese culture of the time, which was built on the idea that they would always triumph because they were the SUPERIOR warriors, was one of the reasons they did so badly. What could be braver, or stupider, than charging again and again into killing zones and being crushed? What could be "harder" than killing yourself after a failure instead of swallowing your pride and learning from your mistakes? Surely, it is best to send your elite troops in to fight until they die instead of sending them home to train their successors? And the result of this superiority complex was ultimately a total defeat. In total war, everyone, including those in non combat roles, contribute to victory. America's factory workers, truck drivers, cooks, teachers, typists, farmers, journalists etc won the war too under full mobilization, while the fascists were too afraid of their own people to call them into the war effort until they were already losing because they were afraid they would be too weak to take the strain. This falacy that only the strongest, toughest, bestest troops can be relied upon guided the fascists throughout the war and, though they often won early victories, they were all eventually crushed by mass citizen armies of better trained, equipped, coordinated, supplied, and led soldiers. Of course individual valor matters, but without artillary support, food, and training, it doesnt do the job, as the Japanese found out. If you are certain you are already the best, you can't learn from mistakes and instead take refuge in denial. Good luck with that.

@johnf8064 Год назад

Hello Oz, NEVER FORGET!

@mikeat2637 Год назад

Whenever I see pictures of the marines on Guadalcanal after the invasion with their Springfield 03's, I think of the general public always thinking of the semi-automatic M1 Garand as the weapon they used, as that is the predominant battle rifle of US forces in WW II. But the Marines at the outset of the war used the Springfield M1903 rifle, which had a 5 round capacity that had to be reloaded with stripper clips and had to be fired singly as it was a bolt-fed rifle similar to the British Lee Enfield. In fact, when the first US Army troops came to Guadalcanal, the 164th Infantry Regiment, they were split up when they went to the front and soldiers were dropped off in each fighting position with the marines already there, and the Marines appropriated the Garands, with their 8 shot monobloc clip, and give the Japanese a surprise they didn't like.

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Год назад

Sone Marines landed on Guadalcanal with M1 Garands on 7 Aug 42. In the minority and not the infantry regiments.

@garfieldfarkle Год назад

I had the good fortune of growing up with a number of Edson's Raiders and other Marines in the First Marine Division who were there. Everyone referred to the battle as that of Edson's Ridge and afterward that was the only name for those hills. Yes, the artillery was incredibly effective, but someone had to stop the Japanese not killed by the artillery and those Marines in the fox holes were fighting hand to hand with enemy soldiers on both sides and behind them. Edson's Raiders had an abundance of talent at the junior officer and NCO level. Walt, Antonelli, Griffith, Pettus and others were talented and inspirational. Red Mike Edson was charismatic and a driven, stone cold killer and he drove his men to be stone cold killers. In combat they hit very hard in unexpected ways that unhinge, confuse and fix the enemy in place where concentrated firepower destroys them.

@garfieldfarkle Год назад

@@francisbusa1074 I am retired.

@Wien1938 9 месяцев назад

It strikes me just how important the quality of Marine leadership was to success in this battle. If Vandergrift or Edsen had not been truly excellent leaders, if the Marines had been complacent, the attack at Edsen Ridge would have been a true disaster.

@AdamMisnik 11 месяцев назад

It's funny how the historian's accent transitions between American to Australian as he transitions from talking about Guadalcanal to New Guinea. Excellent episode.

@riftraft2015 9 месяцев назад

Another great podcast.

@Jakal-pw8yq 5 месяцев назад

I'm not up on the numbers regarding troops or divisions for both sides. Or the numbers for the Cactus Air Force. But however many planes that were serviceable with the Cactus Air Force just show the fighting spirit and skill that these Pilots had! This episode shows how dangerous and difficult it was for the Japanese to move troops and War material down the slot during the daytime. Especially on the slow barges. The Destroyers had the Speed but they didn't have the carrying capacity that they needed. Japanese must have been terrified on those daytime runs either coming or going. Seth, I think that you're completely on the money saying that Guadalcanal was the schoolhouse. We learned so many incredibly important lessons in all phases of combat on Guadalcanal. I don't really know what the Japanese learned other than they were basically fucked.💖🇺🇲⚓️💯👍

@love-tk4mf 9 месяцев назад

Evening guys, this is for Bill. My father was also at Guadalcanal with the Army “Company “C” 65th Engineer Battalion. He was wounded there. I have a Battalion photo of them in Hawaii October of 1941 if you are interested. I can get a copy made.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar 9 месяцев назад

Yes please. Please email me at william@williamtoti.com

@chiron14pl 9 месяцев назад

I agree that we should see the Guadalcanal campaign and the Kokoda Track campaign as were much interrelated

@vincentlavallee2779 Год назад

Another great video! There is so much detail, personal experiences, and more. I have studied WW II fir many decades, and own the two HBO miniseries "The band of Brothers', and "The Pacific", which in most ways was actually better and more realistic. But this video is about the Bloody Ridge battle, and in The Pacific series, it showed Basilone as the hero of this battle (excellent scene in The Pacific), but you did not mention him here at all. Was he really at this battle? I was also shocked to hear that some Marines actually panicked and ran. If you haven't seen this HBO series, you should!

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Год назад

Thanks. Basilone was at the October battle. See one of the later episodes in this series (119). During the Battle of Edson’s (Bloody) Ridge, Basilone had not arrived on Guadalcanal.

@vincentlavallee2779 Год назад

@@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Wow! That is good to know. "The Pacific" implied it was this this key battle up on the ridge, although they have to cover a lot in a short time that the video can show, so it was probably an 'example'. Have you seen 'The Pacific'? If not, I highly recommend it. It tracks 3-4 Marines through to Okinawa, and it is based on the books many wrote after the War. I have most of their books too! It has an amazing ending as well - 10 1 hour 'episodes'. I have it on DVD, where it tells you all the people they followed and the books that they wrote.

@COACHWARBLE Год назад

Does Dave live on the Island or just visit frequently. I’m looking to speak with you guys about helping to write a book. 90% of proceeds go to build a home for homeless veterans and veterans in recovery and suffering from PTSD. I live in DC. Come by Valor Brew Pub in Capital Hill to talk. It’s on 8th and I SE.

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Год назад

Hi, I lived and worked off and on there starting from 2009-2020.

@mkaustralia7136 9 месяцев назад

An additional element to your argument that Guadalcanal was the major turning point in the Pacific War, following the Kido Butai expedition into the Indian Ocean for the raids on Shri Lanka (Ceylon) and the sinking of Hermes, Cornwall, Dorsetshire and Vampire, the Japanese intended to continue raids on shipping there and in the Bay of Bengal. Operation Order 107 set out B Sakusen on 22 June. The ships assigned to this were 2 heavy cruisers, 4 light cruisers, 19 destroyers and 7 auxiliary ships. The first preliminary air reconnaissance for this started on 1 August, with the position of the British Eastern Fleet established. That position delayed the start of the naval deployment for 3 days. The next reconnaissance on 5 and 6 August had the Japanese ready to start. 1st Marine landed on Guadalcanal on 7 August and on 8 August Operational Order 198 cancelled B Sakusen with most of the ships assigned to it ordered to proceed to Truk and Rabaul to support the Solomon’s campaign. A lot of what ifs had the Japanese operation proceeded. But clearly the Guadalcanal invasion altered the Indian Ocean/Bay of Bengal military situation, as well as that in New Guinea, a little later. Love the series, catching up slowly! All the best for 2024

@jameshannagan4256 Год назад

i would be very interested in myth-busting.

@johnoneill6161 Год назад

It would be a great help if you added some maps/Charts to show the Islands and the placement of the battles around the airfield. Your narration jumps around so much that it is hard to remember what the heck you are talking about.

@stevewaldschmidt4344 Год назад

Could almost feel the terror of that night. How did the Marines fare against the Japanese in hand-to-hand fighting? I've heard that the Japanese of that era held in disdain the fighting men of the US. Did we acquit ourselves?

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Год назад

They held their own in hand to hand fighting. The Raiders in particular had been trained in hand to hand and knife fighting. On the average they were bigger and stronger than the Japanese. The Japanese were also not great bayonet fighters as some accounts lead us to believe.

@stefanlaskowski6660 Год назад

It doesn't take any training or expertise to bayonet wounded enemy troops or women and children.

@reneprovosty7032 7 месяцев назад

Love love the smart guys with a southern accent

@justinsquire4212 5 месяцев назад

Enjoyed Dave's commentary. He has a distinct twang of an Australian accent.

@bennettrogers7921 Год назад

Saw Dave on it and had to subscribe.

@FlukeTog Год назад

Same

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Yes Dave is a treasure.

@strydyrhellzrydyr1345 Год назад

What is a seargent Major..??? Besides some sort of high up guy.. That would be a cool episode... I have always.. ALWAYS... Wanted to know all the different ranks of the military... The Marines... And the Navy especially... Since that is what you guys specialize in... I'd like to go over all of them. But I guess I gotta look up another channel for that

@dennisweidner288 Год назад

Excellent vivid discussion. One thing that I would disagree with. The Japanese did not throw everything they had at Guadalcanal. For whatever reason, they held back major surface units, most notably 'Yamato'.

@jamesheil-fo9td 11 месяцев назад

Nothing like a good boy scout compass

@josephjfink Год назад

I found this epsidode difficult to folloow and visulize as the battle progressed. A few maps of the batttle of where the Japanese attacked from, where the US artillary was located, etc would have helped.

@matthewbrueckner8374 19 дней назад

Love this, but some maps would be helpful.

@SaundersE5 2 дня назад

Marines had no good maps either.

@Engineer1980 10 месяцев назад

History does not get better than this!

@chrisnizer5702 Год назад

If the 3 Japanese formations attack at once like they had intended, chances are they would have broken through and captured the airfield. They also had to abandon all their heavy weapons in the jungle. Each formation attacked independently instead of in coordination with supporting troops and without the benefit of heavy weapons support.

@MegaBloggs1 Год назад

very good-how did they manage to keep the airfield operational after the battleship bombardment? it must have cratered the airfield severly-there must have been a secret strip-even disbursement in the jungle would not have serf iced with the aircraft -the catctus airforce must have lost a lot of aircraft through the bombardment

@davidharner5865 Год назад

SeaBees could\can carve airfields from coral with mess spoons!

@CFarnwide Год назад

Seabees don’t mess around 😎

@dougmeckley1069 2 месяца назад

Shooting a weapon with iron sights at night is extremely difficult. Most people can’t hit a man sized target past 30 meters. Even if the target is illuminated, it is very difficult to see the target through the sights. Most effective are grenades, mortar’s and machine guns on tripods with t &e mechanisms with crossing grazing fire ( knee height flat out to 200 to 300 meters. Using 105 mm is dangerous for troops that aren’t properly dug in because of the large blast radius. Once fighting get within 150 meters, 60 mm 81 mm mortars and the 75 pac howitzers should be the weapons of choice. Another big killer amongst moving exposed troops (Japanese) is friendly fire. All the flashes from detonations will destroy night vision. You can see enemy flashes but you might not realize there are friendly in front of you. Then the people that are closest to you are the most dangerous to you. And how well do you think soldiers can hear once all that racket begins? Most troops will have continuously ringing ears after firing a couple rounds and being near hand grenades and mortar. Detonations. Leasing troops at night becomes problematic. You can’t see them they can’t see you and sometimes they can’t hear you or hear what the leader is saying. Controlling a platoon of 30 troops is both exhausting and lethal. Troops seeing all this stuff whizzing by have a tendency to stay down stay put and crawl into any nearby depression. Meaning they might get turned around. Most want to wait until the weather improves - less metal in the air

@SaundersE5 2 дня назад

Good points all, but the Japs got up close and personal. You fight with what you have.

@TheBrakpan Месяц назад

Would you guys give an explanation fo the books behind you on all your shelves

@betwixtthewaters3700 Год назад

Corp Walter Burak was my uncle. I blame Puller's bad habits for the death of my uncle. I believe Edson did too.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

So sorry

@robertwatson818 6 месяцев назад

The leaders of the Guadalcanal conflict are rare men. Their like will never be seen again. Vandergrift was a hack. How did he rise to such a high position? He had no idea of the technical aspects of battle.

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 6 месяцев назад

That’s interesting that you say Vandergrift was a hack with no technical aspects of battle. What is this based on? Vandergrift had been to the staff schools with combat experience in the Caribbean.

@johnthomas2485 Год назад

Would calling it Stalingrad of The Pacific be zn apt comparison?

@Steve-dg3md Год назад

Did the Marines not have Naval gunfire support as well??

@robertwatson818 6 месяцев назад

In this era how many men were in a squad, company, battalion, or a regiment? The Japanese must have taken appaling casualties.

@tomcrouchman Год назад

The Japanese should have used their 2 big daddy Battle wagons in these battles. That was their biggest mistake.

@Gregolec Год назад

I find quite strange that Vandergrift, having strong evidence of Japanese attack at least 48 hpurs before, practically left Edson's Marines alone to face the assault. Were the west and east Marine forces that much tied at their positions not to be able to detach few companies to some kind of central reserve?

@gabrielrodriguez821 Год назад

Dave answers that by saying Vandergrift still wanted to protect his flanks but moved artillery support to pre register fire around the ridge. Basically using artillery as a force multiplier.

@Gregolec Год назад

@@gabrielrodriguez821 Perhaps I do not appreciate enough how Seth often underlines scarcity of Marine forces. In the end this entire perimeter to watch was really vast and ability to rapid troop transfer limited - even for defenders.

@vincentlavallee2779 Год назад

One more comment - only 450 Medals of Honor were awarded in WW II for the 12 million or so soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen that participated in WW II, and half were awarded posthumously!

@ppumpkin3282 Год назад

If I were to read one book on Guaducanal what would it be.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Guadalcanal by my pal Rich Frank

@westleywest4852 10 месяцев назад

Guadalcanal is the longest battle of World War Two ! Six months

@Neaptide184 Год назад

Sergeants Major, not Sergeant Majors…… other than that, great talk gentlemen.

@johnreilly8672 Год назад

Ionospheric skip may have played a roll in communication.?

@stefanlaskowski6660 Год назад

I read Hirohito's biography a few years ago. He was extraordinary fortunate not to be hung as a war criminal.

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Yes indeed

@covidmaskedmorons Год назад

Dave, as a fellow Australian im in awe of your knowledge of the Solomons and PNG respectively during WW2 also intrigued with the half Aussie half American accent . Great Channel

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 Год назад

Thanks mate

@PalleRasmussen Год назад

You want to find Unauthorised History here on RU-vid, he is great.

@rtqii Год назад

@@PalleRasmussen I am looking at Captain Toti on the Unauthorized History of the Pacific War Podcast on RU-vid. I found Dave Holland because he participates in, and supports, this podcast. Jon Parshall also participates and supports. As well as Drachinifel. These are all second to none sources.

@PalleRasmussen Год назад

@@rtqii guess who hooked Drachinifel and Jon up, and thus made Jon participate in lots of channels 😉 Drach is such a nice chap.

@rtqii Год назад

@@PalleRasmussen ❤ Drach -- Next up, Battleship New Jersey!!!

@Scott-kc5fg Год назад

Bill what division in the Army was your great uncle in?

@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Год назад

Late in the war he was in the 1393d Engineer Construction Battalion which was assigned to Americal Division. That was the unit he was in when he was discharged. However, I think it was a different unit on Guadalcanal. Difficult to get those records.

@TheBobservations Год назад

The radio problems of the Japanese may have been partically ffected by the geology of the area, like high magnetic rock masses and topography, causing radio local blind spots..

@ppumpkin3282 Год назад

Also may explain why so many had "faulty compasses".

@markhamon7462 Год назад

Plural of Dauntless = Dauntmore? :)

@awf6554 3 месяца назад

This podcast is brilliant, I can't get enough of it. BUT I wish you and your guests would stop referring to the AIF as Australia's regular soldiers. They weren't. They were wartime civilian volunteers. In fact the regulars were barred from joining the AIF. Dave Holland as an adopted Aussie should know better!

@guadalcanal-walkingabattle5349 3 месяца назад

The AIF were the regular soldiers. WW2 it was the 2nd AIF. In the Great War it was the 1st AIF. From the internet: The Second Australian Imperial Force (2nd AIF, or Second AIF) was the volunteer expeditionary force of the Australian Army in the Second World War. After considerable expansion of this force, three divisions were sent to the Middle East and North Africa, while the 8th Division was sent to garrison British Malaya and Singapore

@richardcall7447 Год назад

The usual plural I've seen for Dauntless is Dauntlesses.

@PerfectDanceVideos Год назад

excellent and detailed depiction of the battle with nice map graphics here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YlHi7kSCzYI.html

@haldorasgirson9463 Год назад

Considering these were battles of extermination, it is no surprise the Japanese had a hard time learning.

@carrabellefl Год назад

The Japanese validate the old military axiom that everything in war is easy, unfortunately the easy is difficult.

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Год назад

The jungles of Guadalcanal wasn't anyone's friend. Assumption is the mother of screw ups. In combat it costs lives. We always talk about American racism toward the Japanese but not in the same negative tone as Japanese racism towards all people that weren't Japanese. For the record I am half Korean. I don't hate Japanese. The Japanese I would hold a grudge against are mostly dead. If not due to the war then old age.

@errolljs Год назад

Link to Dave’s Walking Tour of Edson’s Ridge. Very helpful. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PRgzRF1uFBA.html

@frederickking1660 2 месяца назад

The marines must have fired millions of rounds from there water cooled 30 cal machine guns. Machine guns are really neat until you have to carry one.

@dstaff7373 Год назад

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@thebean8255 Год назад

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@henryburby6077 Год назад

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@just_one_opinion Год назад

Qualed at Edson range in Pendelton and traveled Holocomb blvd in Lejeune tons.