The Battle of Spionkop (Spioenkop) - who won? 

Thanks Luke 👍🏼

Bit like what the boers did to the zulus then. Dutch colonisers werent they just like the british? The british empire was an empire in an era of empires. As for those concentration camps. They were the british army/kitcheners idea to prevent the boers fighting from home, so to speak. When the british government eventually found out about it weeks/months later. Remember there were no phones etc back then, they first sent doctors and nurses to help in the camps, and after they reported back they ordered the process ended. Still a tragedy tho and undoubtably would be a war crime in the modern era.

Thanks Richard. Must be great to have seen it back then. Appreciate you letting me know. All the best, Chris.

I was not aware that the BDOD, takes care of the Spioen Kop memorial. Thank you for this, as a Boer, I am saddened by our governments ineptitude in this regard. The same for the French government, that is taking care of the South African memorial at Delville Wood, France, where a memorial was erected by the previous South African government, in honour of the South Africans, Transvaal Scottish Regiment in particular, that suffered grave losses. Again the anc government is to incompetent to take care of the memorial. Thank you, our French Brothers in this regard.

@@redcoathistory Absolutely a fantastic bitesized documentary in relation to Spion Kop. Like your fantastic Anglo-Zulu War episodes when you are literally on location you make these battles jump out from the pages of history books. It is so poignant actually seeing the territory and location where these battles took place. I know that history books state that over 240 British soldiers were KIA as a result of this battle. Is this a definitive figure? I ask this because in "Boer War Generals" by Peter Tew it states that Louis Botha ordered a body count for British KIA and the figure is over 600. I was surprised you omitted a historical fact in relation to Sir Charles Warren. History has been unkind to him twice. In British Army circles he was always referred to as "that damn policemen". As Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police in London his department was accused of poor investigating and inferior detective work during the infamous Jack the Ripper murders in 1888.

Heritage KZN maintains Spionkop

Thanks Andy, I'm glad you enjoyed it and thanks a lot for sharing.

pdalko Thanks a lot for the feedback - glad to know you found it useful. It is a stunning and poignant battlefield to visit.

That's great, thanks for sharing Mike.

Not something to be proud of - grand fathers fighting farmers on another continent to take over their land. Sounds more like mercenary behavior

Peter Rooke thanks Peter

They didn't die for your country, they died trying to take South Africa from the Boers.

@@jaapongeveer6203 The Dutch had an empire too. Everyone was at it. How did the Boers get to Africa? Poor people joined the forces of the empire for money, and everyone was exploited by the rich. What was the point of an empire if not to have wealth and power? We can all try to be better people, but when did anyone learn from history?

@@steveg2479 The Dutch you mention are not Boers. The Boers belong in South Africa and have nothing to do with the Dutch Empire.

@@jaapongeveer6203 Well, that part of South Africa

@@jaapongeveer6203 Most of it is Rodes fault he was offered lots of land for various mining but was upset because his boy friend had died ( maybe just because his bestie friend ) so didn't accept the offer so when he got his sence back the offer was withdrawn so he lied to the UK government

Thanks - yes I;ve found from my own experiences that it can be really hard to grasp a battle until you can walk it and start to understand the topography. Thanks for watching!

Thanks Henry.

Thanks a lot - I hope you enjoy the other films too.

Well it has always been a bizarre British trait to celebrate our failures I guess.

​@@redcoathistory Bet you voted for brexit and still think it was a victory. 😄

I'm trying to get my kids into it. Youngest is enjoying building lego tanks and D-Day battles so we on course hopefully

Nice one Marvin - a fellow Leicester lad, a city fan and a military history lover! We should defo keep in touch.

Thanks for the feedback - I hope to go back again in the future when I reach the Anglo-Boer war for my Podcast.

@@redcoathistory good stuff! I read about the zulu and Boer, brit wars years ago. W a book you cant see the actual battlefields of course. I love seeing the actual battlefields! Awesome!

Cheers Ben, always good to chat to a fellow City fan! I'm from Syston originally and still have most of my family in Leicester...I'd love to do a video on Waterloo but first I'm going to focus on the Peninsular war. Once Corona is history I want to save up for a trip to Europe and try and visit as many of the battlefields as possible (I live in SA now). Cheers mate and keep in touch.

RedUK thanks a lot.

Thanks Adam I'd say minimum of three hours but 5 if you want to sit, think and soak it all in.

MJ C yes that’s a good point. Thanks for sharing. I think because of WW1 people often forget the horrors of the Boer war

Yes, similar to the memorial in St.Anne's Square in Manchester. It is a memorial to the Manchester Regiment, who played a major role in the siege of Ladysmith. It does look quite similar to the memorials that would spring up some 18 years later for WWI. So that most people asume it is a WWI memorial on passing.

A fellow Leicester lad! Fantastic. I hope you enjoyed the video - all the best and keep in touch.

Hi - it’s a while since I’ve been but as I recall it was well sign posted. Have a great trip!

Marksmanship of a Boer is famous my buddy.

Nice! I hope to get back at some point.

Thx for hearting my comment and u explained exactly like my guide did!

Here's a good article I recently read - www.jstor.org/stable/44232823?seq=7

John Cornell you need to educate yourself maty!

@@richardjooste4636 the boers are gone, its back to a black government ya wet quilt, kisses

you lost end of story, and the blacks who you supressed for years now rule you Karma yea buddy, im smiling xxx

@@tomhirons7475 You shouldn't be too smug as the way things are going in your Country soon you too will be outnumbered by Blacks...

@@andrewdutoit9571 what black people i think you read too much nternet shit, get educated xx kapich ????

I'd be keen for a source for that please, I had never heard this story.

Glad to see you took the most important points from the film mate

@@redcoathistory You can prove anything with facts

At a ratio of 5 to 1

Pls give the time code where I make these statements.

You sound like a bitter ender

To keep de wet from defeat 😂

I'm afraid I know nothing about Hamburger hill.

@@redcoathistory Operations Dewey Canyon and Apache Snow in Vietnam. First the Marines, and then the US Army, marched into the A Sau Valley, drove up the slopes of Hill 937 at great cost, drove the NVA off the hill. And then left, allowing the NVA to return.

@@davidtuttle7556 Thanks - in that case then it sounds like a fair comparison.

The Boere werent soldiers, they were farmers. That is what the word Boer means.. So the British mercenaries battled farmers here.

They were both. One can be warriors and farmers…just look at the Taliban or even the Zulu of the 19th century - they weren’t full time soldiers. The Boers were expert fighters and we applaud them.

Never fear - There are plenty of Boer memorials including one at Spion Kop.

Imagine that , memorials for british mercenaries..

Boers weren't exactly angels themselves either, same as the Zulu's, French, Germans and Indians. The list goes on, nobodies perfect.

Remember the Death Camps !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@koosbos1114 Yes, the Brits were the first to set up concentration camps some 40 years before the germans. Tens of thousands of women and children died in them.

@david noone It was the greed of Rhodes and Milner for the Gold on the Rand that was the route cause of the Boer War.

@@TheRingoism It was the greed of Rhodes and Milner for the Gold on the Rand was the cause of the Boer War.

Ladysmith is a lovely town / you are very lucky. Have you seen the monument on the battlefield of Spionkop to the Indian element that fought with the British (including Ghandi). It is well worth a visit. When it comes to war I avoid the politics but will always salute the brave participants of all sides who fought.

@@redcoathistory I'm actually heading to the battlefield today that's how I stumbled across your video. It's very well informative . I shall keep my eye out for every thing you mentioned . That's a good approach . RIP to all those who passed away on both sides

Hamzah Khan thanks a lot. I wish you a good journey and an interesting visit.

The Boers won it on the Battlefield, just like the Americans and the Australians.

@John Cornell The ball is not shaped like a foot.