The Battle of the Whispering Woods 

Agreed, Its a bit of a shame how the show barely lets that shine through: Robb was a brilliant commander and leader (militairy then, not political :P) who was adored by his Lords and soldiers, for within a féw battles, he had the mighty Lannister army, scattered, half-decimated, and on the run.

@@thegreenreaper6660 Yeah the Lannisters had 3 armies all around 20,000 in strength. Robb destroys 2 of them and has the final force under Tywin pinned defensively at Harrenhal. If Stannis and Renley weren't such fuck wits the war would have been over by book 2.

Out stragetizes Tywin!

@@davidjones5333 That's why it annoys me so much, reading and knowing how it'll end every time. I just want to be able to tell them, but alas.

The young wolf

Mine as well

Josh Eastham yup such a great character! My second favorite behind ned

Same

And now it's Jamie

Robb* but yes indeed same

couldnt agree more man. earlier seasons seemed much more centered on complex and layered plots. as opposed to more recent seasons which feel like they are a series of spectacles / shock scenes, with simple, one dimensional plots to link them. And simple is a overstatement in some cases (such as dorne, parts of the north, arya storyline) where logic breaks down and seems unrealistic. And not saying i dont love latter seasons, but i enjoy the earlier ones way more. Dont think its a coincidence either that the earlier seasons rely much more on the books than the later ones. anyways thanks for the view and feedback!

I came to the same conclusion with the complete lack of depth shown with the scenes in the North during season 7. A little more epicness could have been used, a minute or two for the battle of Highgarden, details on what exactly happened to the main Tyrell army, Dorne forces not with the Greyjoy fleet (and how show Euron could teleport his fleet), and the remaining Tully army. 7 hours just isn't enough for what we wanted, just enough for a few epic battles and dramatic scenes that are not quite soap opera but approach that category.

Shame that every good show at some point gets people that bitch about it for no real reason. "Flashy and epic"? I see comments like this about every sequel/long tv show/game. FYI this battle would be more flashy and epic than regular scenes in series but I guess they focused on something non flashy and epic. Yet there we go, implying that skipping flashy and epic battle makes show flashy and epic. Or this is bad troll, not a serious comment?

So since I had a partial disagreement with the parent comment, based off of new material since said comment, I'm a troll? I said a specific scene, which being a battle scene would be flashy and epic, should have been longer and elaborated on. I'm not complaining about the two epic battle sequences we got, but that the limited time in season 7 was wasted on nonsensical dramatic plotlines. However, I take proper offense at your attempt to shoo legitimate criticisms of media away with a non-sequiter of said criticisms being cyclical and thus "no real reason", or implying that I'm an edgy reactionary latching on to a potentially trendy opinion. I still enjoyed season 7, but the lack of complex and layered plots, and the de-emphasis of manpower, logistics (exception being the existence of the loot train), and the effects of the wars and politics on the less notable nobility and smallfolk. Hopefully season 8 will acknowledge how the misrule and shortage of food in Cersei's realm will effect the Lannister armies and commoners.

+omfgcow I did not respond to your comment, just saying.

Rohan George thank you!!

also would I be able to use that picture of the terrain please. If so, where do I find it?

awesome thanks man! glad it could help out, hope the project comes out good

would I be able to steal the terrain pic off you?

Louis Chadfield sure, just credit and source please

Grammar nazi

the grammar is hard and full of errors

Ackbar What?

Ackbar thank you stannis

Nick Batt appreciate it! Could definitely use some advice in that regard, since I’m sure you could tell by the audio quality that I had no idea what I was doing hahah

Jason Lee agreed 100%. Yeah Tyrion can call him an idiot cuz hes taking a huge risk and putting his own life on the line. But hes doing it to try and save the battle / win the war. Pretty smart / courageous thing to do. Jaime is the man haha

roland villanueva glad you enjoyed 👍

Darius Mina sorry for the late reply, just saw the post. Unfortunately at this point it doesn't look like I will be able to until this semester is over. Getting buried alive with work so just don't have much time to put into making it. Sorry about the wait, and i'll make sure when the next one comes out itll have been worth the wait!

Aditya Pimparkar gunna make a push to get the next one out. Battle at the Green Fork

Pain yup is my second favorite character behind Ned. Was pissed that he died but at the same time RW really sold me on this story being on another level

Moral of the story. Don't be honest all the time.

I kind of saw it coming. I mean if you promise something you don't just go back on it behind someone back.

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cobalt byron it’s a Stannis reference when he’s talking to Davos

Devok Devok 5th Blackfyre Rebellion*

it's the same war snoop

How about The Sword of the Morning ;)

Actually. Jamie did.too He.would.have killed Rob but his sword got stuck in one of Rob Starks Mens Head. Jamie had already killed over Ten men. These men were like Rob's Kings gaurd. Jamie was seconds away from killing the King of the North.

@@richardrogers7782 Coulda shoulda woulda lol Prime Selmy>Prime Jamie any day.

Agreed would have been awesome to see this battle. Is a great display of tactics on Robbs part, and would show how much of a badass Jaime is. I get they couldn't afford it, but still sad it wasnt included. They could have even done what was in the books with you just seeing the pre battle set up with Cat, had them charge and then just hear the majority of the battle, with little clips of fighting sewed in. Wouldnt have cost as much as a full fight, but still would have been a tense way to convey what was happening

And thank you! Glad you enjoyed. Next video is on Battle at the Green Fork. I am open to suggestions for the one after!

Looking forward to it!

Ricky YUP, George RR Martin explicitly made it clear, Jaime is the greatest swordsman of his generation, no mountain, no champions could take him, show did a poor job of showing this, even a malnourished and chained Jaime scared brienne enough to apply her full effort to put him down. He toyed with Ned. Only Sword of the fuckin morning Ser Arthur Fuckin Dayne, Jaime's mentor and idol figure could undoubtedly beat him and Barriston the Bold in his prime would have a good chance against him. What's frustrating is that tywin never really appreciated his son's Goat status and saw him as misguided as in he should have focused more on politics smh

Maybe, one thing about this show is that it goes out of it's way to show oaths, and honor doesn't mean what they claim. So yeah, *MAYBE* the karstarks would still support Robb after he went through with your idea. But honestly I'm not sure.

ibi chillzking yeah agreed the situation could have been handled much better. Thats a great suggestion you had. Also even the option Cat and Edmure present in the show of locking him up for the crime and promising his safety as long as the Karstark troops continue to fight for Robb is better option

@@Zankaru he prepared them for the Norths politics not southern politics

I'm sorry, but his name is Robb not Rob. It isn't a contradiction of Robert, just straight up Robb.

You should have been king of the north.

haha thanks man im glad you enjoyed it. will be starting back up and making content in a few weeks

I was disappointed too to see you only had two videos. These videos are of excellent quality.

"A few weeks." ;)

Heath Hansen haha

I agree, these vids are great, I would love to see more

Wow thats awesome, really wish i didnt miss that because such a cool piece that adds to jaime. I know he killed Torhenn and Eddard Karstark when making that last push for Robb. But that detail really makes it much more bad ass

Jesus.. Sick..karstarks should be better warriors

@VerifiedSjr I thought he got drawn out because of his overaggresivness, if his Dad gave him orders to stop those little attacks I stand corrected I just didn't think he did

@@kevinmyers440 I agree with you.

It shows how good a swordsman/warrior Jaime was when he had his right hand, and it shows his courage. Unfortunately for him, only the latter was left after he was captured by that band of scumbags in book two (was it "The Bloody Mummers" or some such name?)

madhatten00 there's a reason for that. Its explained multiple times in the book. The first son is trained to lead and any others are trained to follow. Eddard talks about it a few times.

The show makes Jon an ABSOLUTE shit commander but in reality he's probably just as gifted as Rob. He defended the wall successfully against somewhere from 20,000 to 100,000 wildlings, including giants and mammoths, against a mere 100 (or less) black brothers. He proved to be incredibly resourceful and was able to maximize the talents of those around him.

Jon even said robb was better than him at everything.

Not really, but, as a commander, I can see that as he was being groomed to lead by Ned and Jon wasn’t. Second, Jon was a better sword than Rob and quicker too. Rob was taller and stronger though. And in ADWD, Jon even corrected Stannis Baratheon a couple of times of how to approach the

...war in the north. This is huge considering how competent Stannis is as a General

Egotisticsoup that's what bugged me about season 1 I was expecting a battle they skipped it pissed me off.

Egotisticsoup Not led by a bastard. Led by a Targaryen.

Professor Lemon Shut up he's still northerner

bacon fish101 He is but he's not a bastard!

The series should have filmed this battle or at least a toned down version of it. It would not have been that expensive and would have developed the characters much more. It would have explained Lord Karstark's anger and showed that Robb made a good move. Instead the show runners just showed us a captured Jaime Lannister. I was disappointed by that, but maybe it just didn't fit into their budget.

And failed again

It's almost as if it's his go-to move when all else fails. He does it so reflexively that he may not be aware of how unlikely it is to succeed. I remember Tyrion's reaction when it happened during the Loot Train ambush. Watching from a distance, he said, "don't do it you fool." This can mean that either Jaime does it frequently enough that his brother recognized immediately what his next move would be, thereby supporting your observation and the hypothesis that it's his go-to move. It may just be instinct for him, but I am curious to know whether it's in fact his instinct or a trained response. I appreciate this comment highlighting that he in fact tried the same thing against Daenerys. Also, sorry for such a late reply but I found this discussion interesting.

thank you!!

why don't you uploade vedios anymore

appreciate it man, im working on the next one now

I'd imagine that these videos take you a lot of time to make. Thank you, and we're really looking forward to the next one!

Glad you enjoyed! Havent been able to make videos in a long time with school, but will be posting more videos come summer

yup plan on looking into more of those battles when start back up

Id rather die then let a glover lead an umber

The bloody wall will melt before an Umber marches behind a Glover. I will lead the Van or I take my men and march them home.

Fucking greatjon is the best 😂😂😂😂

The Hound Jaime killed 10 soldiers according to Theon

that was just once he saw the battle was lost,he was already in the thick of it when he decided to cut a path to the enemy leader robb stark once he presented himself, those 10 men were part of robes personal guard,

Right here bruh!

LOL FFS! Go read the books.

RachelG1979 racking my brain and can't think of it, what was it Jaime said? It's bugging me 😂

Ben Trant to olenna he said he used same tactic as robb did at whispering woods. Always learn from your losses...

Maarten Vangeel Ahh of course. Thank you

Ardeas yeah had no idea what I was doing with audio /recording back then (still really don’t haha), apologies!

Correa24 sorry about that. Had no idea what i was doing with audio back then. Problems were fixed for most part in the next video i believe

thanks man! really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for the like and subscribe!

thanks phil!

+Analysis of Thrones I like how you broke it down, I see that's your only video, hope to see more...

yeah man just started making videos, working on another right now. It should be up within a week or so. Glad you enjoyed it!

Your channel is Dead man you had some huge Potential but you wasted that chance, I know the School is Hard but I mean one Video in a month is enough

sorry you feel that way man. and believe me i understand the waste of opportunity but have close to 0 free time because of the amount of work. These videos take a lot to research for and produce and its not something I can spend a little bit of time here and there and throw it up. Just telling you this cause I know their might be some people that look forward to the videos and I feel really bad that I haven't posted one in a long time. But just physically cant do it at this time. Hope you understand. Thanks again for watching these

thanks bro

Analysis of Thrones do you not make vids no more

thanks man!

thank you!

xrx0R 9 it was gonna happen anyway. Probably in the books too.

Agreed its taken a dip since they havent had georges writing to lean on. Still really enjoy the show for what it is tho, and think its better than any show out there right now

..and once again his foolish rash decision could have killed him. He was a fine swordsman in his prime, but a fucking moron when it comes to any sort of strategic thinking.

Thank you! Yeah was first video and had no idea what i was doing with audio. Seemed to fix it a bit with 2nd. And yup had a busy year with shit but gunna make a push to finish next video soon

OneOnOne1162 hahah yup been called out many times now on it. Apparently Stannis' grammar lessons didn't get through to me lol

Poor mr. The Mannis, he died in vain. All he wanted to do was bring proper grammar to Westeros and beyond.

Scott K yup, too much overuse of deus ex machina

thank man! I will definitely making more videos come summer time when im done with school

Thanks man! Ive been working on it. Trying to make it a really in depth and high quality one so may take another week or so

+Analysis of Thrones wow thanks really looking foward to it.

thanks man. Thats great i would love to see that discussion. The battle tactics and strategies are one of my favorite part of the books, especially when it come to The War of the Five Kings. Just so much going on in there and so interesting. Looking forward to seeing that discussion if you guys do it

Analysis of Thrones Maybe you can guest on it when/if we ever get around to it. Sounds like we are of the same mind in this respect, keep up the great work.

yeah that would be great. I appreciate the watch and feedback man

Analysis of Thrones no prob. I'll try and share this across the realm.

I think he would also get the respect from fans that his character deserves.

Yeah Robb could have sent Karstark to join the Night Watch and he might have been able to keep the Karstarks loyal.

Yup working on Battle at the Green Fork now! Its the battle which that happens

Like the battle at duskendale

thanks for watching! yeah ill see you sunday, think this next episodes gunna be really great stuff

JGtime thanks for suggestions man! Had a really busy year since i first posted these with grad school. But will be done with that in a week. Going to work to get more out as soon as i can. Unfortunately does take a long time to make these with research, recording, making maps, rendering, etc. but as soon as i can ill get the next one out there (Battle at the Green Fork)

Thanks so much YFT! glad you enjoyed it

Analysis of Thrones I did and I hope for many more to come. BTW, are you on Twitter so I can mention you when I link your video?

thank you! glad you enjoyed it

What?

NOTHING!!! Yeaaah! Way to play along hehehe

this is cringe